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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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April 19, 2022 - 6:50pm

#2351

JimInMD

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GFar

You are kind soul.. I appreciate all you provide here. Same goes to Oro. I think it would take a face to face to catch me up on all the technology (old or new) that the two of you bring for me to truly understand. As for old.. and I am sure you both know.. in either late 73 or early 74 (I think 73).. the GD got into a scuffle with DOD over equipment they were ordering that was desperately needed for national security. Apparently, the Macintosh amps they were buying in unprecedented numbers were needed both in general and more specifically by special, top secret subs that needed the clean sound and amplification to either detect enemy interference or better hear and make stealth the noise they were making. So they called the GD and tried to work out a way to either stall, postpone or barter a purchasing arrangement that would not jeopardize national security.

I think this is well known, and I apologize in advance for going on memory and surely confusing some of the information listed above as fact. ..but what is written is pretty close, if someone can clarify and correct it would not offend me in the least.

Hope I didn't write anything that was incorrect or in any way interpreted as insulting or offensive.

As for chainsaws and sawzaws to clear way for our living room WOS.. what could possibly be more fun.
April 19, 2022 - 6:05pm

#2352

Gary Farseer

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Sawzaw

Ah the sounds of my earliest fun dentist. "You dont need no gas!"

All my stereo stuff is old, always fussy. Running all old Yamaha into JBL (plus svs). Trying to get stuff cleaned and parts replaced. When it is on, it is quite the stereo indeed. I have an old yamaha eq that I hooked up when Dave's first show was released. Goes into Pre amp, then to a yamaha mx-830. The MX-830 is powering 4 jbl g300's and 2 jbl LX 600's. Running 6 speakers means the amp is running at 550 watts at 2 ohms. It cooks. The speakers all have same tweeters and mid ranges. The 300s run 8" woofers and the 600s have 10 inch woofers. It is old but as you say "in budget." Smile.

edit:
Then the svs has a 550 watt continous, 850 watt peak sledge. The svs I picked up a few years back for $399. I had to have a sub with an internal crossover. So out of preamp to svs (rca cables), then back into the preamp, then to amp. Having old yamaha means older connection points. Modern amps control the crossover themself and pump sub out already crossed over. I happen to run my internal sub amp at a cutoff of 82 hz. George Lucas uses 80 hz crossover in his THX sound systems. So I am slightly above that. I did some sampling of the room using the preamp features.

G
April 19, 2022 - 3:31pm

#2353

JimInMD

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Do you have any '74 Dijon?

Neanderthal's use chain saws.. a sophisticated audiophile attacks their living rooms delicately with a sawzaw.

I'm totally jealous.. I am blasting with my 20 year old Denon, similar age speakers with no intents on upgrading anytime soon. Budgets be budgets..
April 19, 2022 - 1:11pm

#2354

Gary Farseer

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Yeah

Can you imagine writing the real equipment book? With the constant upgrading of the system, that book would be multiple enormous volumes. Hope the Meyers have logged a lot of their research.

No 18's here. Of course not needed.

Back last year, Oro, you asked if I was running multiple subs. I am not. I have a 12" SVS Systems sub with built in Sledge D amp. It is like the rabbit, it is a thumper. Goes down to 13 or 15hz, so below the 20hz of human hearing. That is, if all memories about frequency response are still good. Starting to get the old enough to question my own thoughts at times.

I am still hoping for the day when we can listen to WoS through a system that takes us to the "Fare the Well" P.A.. Would have to be software based, but I look at it like 4K upcoding an HDTV signal.

Wow, FTW PA is now 7 years ago. Bet the Meyers' have gone way beyond that. I almost applied for a job at Meyer 7 years ago. Was in my career field. POTHead.

That 2015 system had multiple flying 18's. It also had a load balancing system. This was done by having 2 systems, intake and outake. That is, they had 100 microphones throughout the stadium to push into the analytics software. Of course, the output systems was not connected except thru analytics, to the input system to avoid feedback. Brilliant. The analytic input system could then be used to balance the PA by section of the of the stadium.

Sorry for interruption but I wanted find the article on pro sound web about 2015 FTW PA.

I did actually find it, but not by searching pro sound web, but by searching internet at large and it found it on the pro sound web site, even though pro sound web could not find it in its own search.

Let me know, maybe I can send lynk thru PM here, not sure if they cut that off.

Any way need to do a little work after lunch. I mean a little work.

G
April 19, 2022 - 12:24pm

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Oroborous

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Ha

That’s what chain saws are for!

Gary, I think besides trying to keep up with Garcia, Phil was using that big system on stage to help fill in those near field areas (up front etc) we were discussing, the areas that didn’t get proper coverage from the PA?
What some refer to as the Phil Zone, though to me that’s was where both his stage sound and the PA sound merged and acoustically coupled.
But yeah, My spine tingles and can still feel rather than hear those sub frequencies in my DNA. (By sub I mean below the threshold of hearing, not a subwoofer). Those Meyers 18”s in the PA were ridiculous in the right spot, in the right venue etc.
Plus, it’s the Grateful Fucking Dead so why not go big!

PS, that Grateful Dead gear book is great, though a little dialed down.
April 19, 2022 - 12:07pm

#2356

JimInMD

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I want what Phil's having...

Home version. 18"'s and 4"'s. If I move some things around, they should fit.
April 19, 2022 - 11:21am

#2357

Gary Farseer

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Oro

thanks for the write-up, input. Need a little time to read again and ponder. Think again we are speaking the same language but as 90% of communication is non verbal, some times the written language let's us down.

It seems I have the dead's equipment book, need to track that down. Not necessarily for this discussion but just to find it again...

Should have figured Phil would use Meyer systems. Using 18's onstage, wow!

Hope all well your way!

G
April 19, 2022 - 10:10am

#2358

Oroborous

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Phil’s Rig

As of late 82 or early 83 Phil was using 4 Meyers cabinets: (4 -18”, 4 -15”), 2 per cabinet powered by custom PIE amps, until they started not using speakers on stage in 92. (Which I didn’t like).

Not sure I get all what your saying? I agree that Soundboards do not sound natural for many reasons.
Perhaps your referring to the phenomena of Microphones not having frequency response to accurately record bass waves combing sub sonic frequencies at those kind of SPL levels?
Mic location can also make a big difference and was partly why Dan started the tapers section. Unless you have the right knowledge and equipment chances are a recording made too close will mot sound good.
Plus you have the physics: the lower the frequency, the longer the sound wave. If your too close you’ll not hear the fully formed bass note etc.
In fact if your too close much of the PA sound will blow right by you. You’ll also not properly experience stereo imaging. That’s why usually, the sound board or just before it was THE place to be. It was a trade off going up front: yeah you were up close and could see and hear their stage sound, but the PA mix was so above and beyond you that you missed a lot of info. Eventually they added little Meyers boxes, usually sitting on the front of the stage to add some vocals etc for those up close.
Nothing comes for free! Personally, like Bear, I didn’t like the stereo set up because of this. Unless you were in the right spot, you missed a lot of info, especially if you were sitting on the side!
This was the main reason Reserved seating sucked: nobody could sit where they wanted so if you were a sound nut like us, you often had to endure less than perfect sound/mixes.
April 19, 2022 - 9:33am

#2359

Gary Farseer

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Fall Out from the Phil Zone

I listened to 1988-10-15. Once Friday, Second Saturday. Two different sources although both said the Ultramatrix board, the first was much muddier than the second. Best highlight was the deep garbled voices toward the end of drums. Really bizarre, and reminds me of garbled voices during latter Star Wars during broken transmissions, and reminds me of the fellas ties to Lucas, the lightgiver.

I was very disappointed in both versions as the show is missing a whole lot of data/music. What I mean by this is, I am wondering if there is fallout from the phil zone? I am positing that as the Phil Zone expanded, Healy lost control of the overall sound. If memory serves at some point it seems I remember maybe Phil using 18" woofers onstage. For sure he was using 15's (plus 12's and 10's). Now I loved my bit of time I spent in the Phil zone, but generally when I got up close, it was Jerry side. As Phil blasts his horn, this means Healy had to bring Phil down in the overall P.A. mix. In my humble opinion, I believe this led to the bad tape sound, lots of data/music missing. When I focus my ears, I can tell that much of the overall lower sound waves are missing or nonexistent. Even worse, the frequencies that are there are very muddled and indiscernible.

Now as a way to test my theory, I listened to 1988-03-27, Hampton. Another group of shows I saw in 1988. I did see 8 Dead shows there and fully know the quality of the sound that can be obtained within the mothership. (Also saw the shows that make up "Hampton Comes Alive..") When I listened to March 27, the sound is very good. However, although not as bad a St.Pete, there is again a large amount of data/music missing as well. The imaging is excellent but that is because the imaging comes from the higher frequencies. Bass frequencies are much more omni- directional, whereas high frequencies are unidirectional. (Want to press on these concepts furthur, later on. I want to go back to some discussions back in October regarding HDCD.) If my hypothesis is correct, then the tape anomalies concerning extremely muddled low frequencies will test out thru other 1988 shows. Had not heard or noticed this until this past weekend. So for St. Pete, it not only causes Phil to be muddled (deep booming bass with no clarity to individual notes played), it also means some muddleness from other players/instruments. I believe this may be the reason why 1988 recordings may all need matrix recording.

Just one man's opinion, would like to know what others thought.

Both Hampton and St. Pete were excellent shows when you factor other aspects than just the quality of the reproduced sound on tape. One reason I love the later shows is because the P.A. quality produces a much more full bodied, across frequencies, sound than do earlier performances. Early performances are fire from perfomance, latter shows have more depth and clarity in the frequency spectrum, hence DaP#40.

Ok enough for now.

G
April 19, 2022 - 9:23am

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bob t

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Sandstone Amphitheatre 7/4/90

I was there.. It was so hot at the start of the show... Close to 100... Really enjoyed the long scarlet>fire popping up in the 4th slot.... Drove straight to Louisville after the show... why oh why.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

420

West Coast Time, be careful with your smokes

Shakedown Stream preshow 8/27

What if Dave used that to do the first ever live announcement of a new release?
Like a Summer 72 Box, since it’s assumed that the Stream will be 8-27-72.

Visionary

Me likes that concept

Road Trips Volume 1 number 2..... 10/77

I always listen to the first set, listening to CD 2, wow 17 minute Playing to open followed by a good other one.... what a pleasant surprise i have to say !!!! Be good everyone.... bob t.....
P.S. I hope your 72 predictions are right!!!!

Shakedown Stream

Interesting news Strider. Hope you all are right.

The big question is, has Glasser stopped working on Jim's roof?

If so, we might have something.

By the way, we need a pick.

Bells Octoberfest is in the house!

Enjoy the Octoberfest DV

I didn’t see any at the store the other day. Grabbed a case of Oberon, probably the last one from that store this season.

I think that Glasser finished the roof and now Jim has him installing a thumping stereo system in that empty beer truck he still has parked behind the garage.

I’m up earlier than usual for a Saturday, half way through a large cup of super dark roast, think I’ll make the pick.

And the winner is......
Tomorrow’s anniversary
8-23-87, with Carlos on a couple of songs.

Edit:
I didn’t pick 8-22 solely because it wasn’t in the CD holder that is in my living room. I have newer versions of both shows on HD’s, but they currently aren’t on the microSDXC cards in my music player. So I went with the CD-R’s that I burned years ago.

Feel free to do either or both of the shows. We’re flexible here.

8/23/87

Looks like a great show. I am on it. Box of Rain opener.

Thanks for the pick Conekid.

Oberon is done here in MN, which is a bummer. That Octoberfest is a good replacement.

Say thank you Carlos

Carlos Santana with the Dead on a couple songs. “Say thank you Carlos”, Bob Weir. Will have to check out 8/23/87. Also Road Trips , Volume 1 Number 2 is excellent and includes the Dead’s second New Mexico appearance. Jam of the week has filled in some of the gaps. Full soundboard must be in house.

Strange occurrences on the desert. Been reading some Science Fiction lately and started reading The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury a couple days ago. Mind you have not read it since I was 12 years old back in the mid 60s. So yesterday I google Ray Bradbury and read that today would have been his 100th birthday. Enter Twilight Zone theme. Who are the Grateful Dead and why do they keep following me.
“My God, there’s millions of stars”. Dave Bowman

Hope Love my Girl, Bolo, Ouroboros and others are good. Over the years have seen many come and go from this site. Some have passed on , some have passed through , time keeps marching on.
As Mr Natural said; “just passing through”. Or as Oat Willie said; “Onward through the fog”.

Hey Now!

Carlos has a sweet sound on that Solo during Iko, you can feel the rush just listening, dig it.

Hats off to the Good Ol Grateful Dead Hour! Turned me on to this show BITD, I can still remember sitting in front of my tape deck taping it, still have the tape. Who'd a thunk what the future would bring.

Speaking of the future, looking forward to Thursday and the anniversary of the GRATEFULest Dead Show EVER!
There's been some clever hints, winks and nods about fun stuff.

Top 5 for sure... if you're into ranking stuff, all I know is I can listen to almost any song from that show and go places, far out places, that are fun to explore. Powerful stuff.

Hope all are well and enjoying some good tunes!

PS - Thanks Gollum, good to know it's not just me who's not in real time ;)

here there and everywhere

always been a big fan of Road Trips , Volume 1 Number 2. in near synchronicity mode as I listened to first 2 discs early last week and then the bonus disc yesterday to start the work day. the bonus disc is just exactly perfect, one of my fave discs from the RT series and it was in the cd player while traveling for a long long time. i love that sequence from Albuquerque that begins with Iko > Wheel. I mean they only had played Iko once before back in that AMAZING Fox Theater show in St Louis 5/15! a show IMHO that seems to not get the love it deserves amid so many other stellar spring tour shows. Also the Let It Grow from RT, V 1 No 2 is super super fine.

Been decades probably since I listened to the '87 Angel's Camp shows with Carlos. that little festival had to have been a real hoot with David Lindley and Santana also on the bill. I'll dip into 8/23 today. '87 was a solid good year.

and just realized missed call out to 8/21/93 (and 8/22) in Eugene - super fun show. Standing On The Moon that first day was out of this world gorgeous and emotional. favorite version hands down.

and I should probably pull out Sunshine Daydream while I'm at it since I won't have a chance to participate later this week.

my long shot mini box guess is RFK '73 including the set with the Allmans. but would be very happy with some of the other suggestions floated here.

also been having issues with the most recent posts not being immediately visible even when I first open the page - my workaround is to click the sort by drop down and click "Recent" (which is already my choice) and that updates the posts. seems silly but it works.

stay safe. be well. have fun.

8-22-93

Good call Bluecrow, just started spinning it.

8.22.93....

.... I'm all over it. I was present and somewhat accounted for at that show. There were naked people. Bobby smashed his guitar. Angry Jack Straw indeed. It was the bees knees.

Is there Eugene 93 video in the Vault?

Debut it on Shakedown Stream Dave.

yeah - the angriest of jack straws

we were in the stands straight out from the stage both days - exquisite sound and sight lines. i was watching with a pair of binoculars when bobby walked off and I could see him swinging that guitar like a freaking axe and it was a complete "what in the f*** am i seeing????" Jerry just kept jamming away with his head down - curious if he knew what was going on via earbud or just that Bob had left the stage.

just flashed on a funny 8/22 related memory. excellent tapes of both shows circulated immediately afterwards as they were broadcast on the local public radio station. a few years later i was traveling with my girlfriend in the low desert. I was driving an '87 Isuzu Trooper at the time. We spent a couple days in Cabeza Prieta at the end of the trip before heading back to the NW. We exited the CP at the west end and started heading west on I-10. We were listening to 8/22 Set II. During Drumz she said I can't deal with that can you turn it off, and I did. A few miles down the road a crazy banging noise started coming out of the engine compartment. She says - I thought I asked you to turn that off?! and I'm like it IS off - that's coming out from under the hood!! We were near Yuma and pulled into a rest area. Pop the hood to find that the adjustment bolt on the alternator had snapped and the alternator is flopping wildly on the belt. Dropped some quarters in a pay phone and called a garage in Yuma. They had it tapped out and fixed by supper that evening. Spent a pleasant unplanned night in Yuma and on the road next morning. If that had happened in the CP it would have been a whole different and way more expensive story.

Bobby's best Townsend impersonation....

....we were slightly stage right and approx 60 feet back on the floor. Yahhhh!!

*RE/ strider

Excellent post,Also with you my friend! Grateful to see & read your posts As always, rock on brother! I’m stuck in dicks picks #28 for the past 3 days, my cat lock’d me in! Ha ha lol
Tomorrow I’ll be spinning Buffalo 77! I look forward to listen this release thru my tube system
🙏❤️💀🌹

Check out 3/19/77 Set II in this weeks Tapers Section

Dave throws this set up once a year....Eyes>Dancing>Wharf Rat>Franklin's Tower>Sugar Magnolia....nice little jam between Eyes and Dancing, early on sounds a tad like Comes A Time might be popping up.. very different feel than a few weeks prior at the Swing with the Phil Jam between Eyes and Dancing... Yes 5 song Set II (Two encores) also, but what 5 great songs....be good... bob t

Palindromes, Ray Bradbury

Someone asked me if I love palindromes. Yes, ever since the release of AoxomoxoA, 6/21/69.
Also while reading The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (he would have turned 100 August 22, 2020) yesterday I came across the passage “way up in the middle of the air”. From the Bible apparently.
Another palindrome;
⚡️ A man a plan a canal Panama ⚡️

Today's Pick

How does 9/3/1980 sound to you all? Download series #7. Extra credit for partial show on 9/4/1980.

OK With Me

9/30 works.. spending a quality day on my roof until the temperature decides otherwise... Might as well have some upbeat 1980 to keep the spirits high.

9.3.80 you say?....

....I'm all in.

* Re/ Deadvikes & the download series

I wish I had a computer & actually know how to use it. I grew up in a time of typewriters lol I really wish I could get them on CDs, I believe there was only 12 total releases issued by download only, very much like the new studio crecordings of WMD “ angels” release in studio sessions . Made available.
Man, I wish I wasn’t so Technological handicap.
I would love to get all 12 shows to add to my collection. I’ll keep praying for a miracle , who knows , maybe someday soon ;the Grateful Dead will release all 12 downloads into a physical Boxset one fine grateful day! I would buy it in a hart beat ! Lol 💀🌹🙏😉

Re: Massage Spam

I feel dirty.. Hope MaryE does some housecleaning...

1980, 1977, 1969 & 1966

I did some extra credit first and 9/4/80 is a great listen, looking forward to 9/3/80 a little later.

The March '77 shows would be a cool release. Home turf at Winterland sure seems to bring out the best in the boys, that PITB > Samson > PITB at the end of Set 1 of 3/19 is dreamy.

Strider is that a quote from Bradbury? Far out!

I read Kesey's The Further Inquiry the other day, that's some far out stuff too, had to watch the Magic Trip to go along with it, now I'm digging into the Electric Kool Aid Acid Tests... getting ready for Thursday ;)

Recommended Pandemic Reading & Viewing for anybody that enjoys that type of stuff.

Alright, time to go Further!

Shakedown Stream August 27, 2020

Special guests for pre-show, Ken Babbs and Sue Kesey. Please get the word out there.
Veneta, Oregon was an amazing place to see the Grateful Dead, especially August 27, 1972. August 28,1982 was quite different but also magical. These are golden memories. The Springfield Creamery and Health Food and Pool Store was quite the operation back in the 70s. There was a pool table elevated above the food bins below a skylight. We could play pool for free. I remember a couple days after the 72 Veneta Dead show seeing Ken Kesey, his brother Chuck and Ken Babbs shooting pool on the old famed pool table.
I bought a couple quarts of Nancy’s Yogurt in Silver City today to prepare for the Thursday broadcast of Sunshine Daydream. Great way to finish out summer and Shakedown Stream. Hats off to all who helped to pull this together, Adrian Marin, Ken Babbs, Sue Kesey, Sheryl Kesey Thompson, and all the hard working people at the Springfield Creamery along with Gary Lambert, David Lemieux, Doran Tyson, Marty Dolan and all the hard working people at Rhino Records in beautiful downtown Burbank.
The dream lives!

Dubai Spa

Jim, I thought they were supposed to send you a PM, not a post.

Looking forward to Thursday Strider. You were there, that is cool. Can't imagine.

Is that box announcement still coming?

Strider is Pole Guy???!!!!!

That’s awesome

Don’t forget 8-25-72 anniversary today.

9/3/1980

Love the variety you get with 1980. This show hits it for me. Half Step Franklins to start, yes! Really like this Althea and Brokedown Palace. He's Gone, Truckin, Black Peter, oh yeah! Sound quality on this one is A++. Super solid release. More 1980 would be great.

9/3/80

I like Brent's vocals on the outro to Deal on this one. Check out the China>Rider from the day before (Rochester). There's some interesting things going there vocally, too. This time between Jerry and Bob.

1980 / Random Musings

Love this year, the halfway point for the band.

Reflected on releases from this year this morning sipping on my Morning Brew:

Deadset, Dead Ahead, Reckoning, etc. all excellent, multitrack recordings.

Go To Nassau, 10/9/80 & 10/10/80 - Same as above

Road Trips, Volume 3 No 4 - Penn State and Barton Hall. Great songs and performances but the recording to me sounds a little thin and tinny. I put that in the Road Trips cassette master snafu category.

11/28/80 Lakeland FL - Sounds a little warmer than Barton Hall and Penn State, but still lacking a touch in fullness and richness. Still, has nice, clean sound and a good feel to it.

11/29/80 - Board segments have surfaced, the second set soundboard circulates and segments of the first set have been played by Lemieux on jam of the week. Some of the audience tapes that circulate are works of art. To be continued I guess, stay tuned. Would love to see a Matrix type effort and become an official release.

11/30/80 Fox Theatre - the Holy Grail of 2 track 1980 recordings/releases. The perfect marriage of the thinner boards of the year with the full sound of a truly great audience master. Hats off and many thanks to Dr. Bob Wagner for his contribution.

I would love to see more efforts like Dave's Picks 8, 11/30 Fox Theatre. That's the best sounding solution to the lacking cassette masters from the year and currently my personal favorite 1980 release or as I started spinning this while writing up this post.. more accurately stated as the last 1980 show I have listened to. As Tony the Tiger would say, It's Great!!!

One last nod goes to the unsung hero, Jim Wise for his audience contributions to I think the Lakeland show which was released and no credit given for his aud patch. Another great 1980 audience tape. I think I have this right.. I think it was Jim Wise and I think it was the Lakeland show, but I could be wrong about the exact show this happened on.

Ok.. coming off a bit of a health scare, thankfully not covid and something modern medicine is quite capable of treating.. I am trying to venture on a little bicycle, music adventure before it gets too hot with my new music toy. I took advantage of my down time by taking up some free advice Cone Kid gave six months or so ago.. I upgraded an old, used IPod Classic I bought of Amazon a couple years ago that unfortunately suffered from a bad heart (battery). I upgraded it myself and replaced both the battery and the hard drive using IFlash Memory instead of the old, standard hard drives they used to contain. Powered by 4, 256 Gig MicroSD Chips that are super small and light. So I now have a 1TB IPod both works like new and has literally every single GD show I have imported / Ripped / downloaded into my digital world. 10,000 songs.. would take more than a year of solid listening 24/7 to get through the whole thing and the sick part.. I still have 450 gigs of free space left.

If you picked the best recording of every show (officially released and the best version that circulates) and stored it as either Flac or ALAC (lossless but compressed) I believe you could fit every single Dead Show that circulates on this device that fits in the palm of my hand. I am calling it Podzilla. Many thanks to Cone Kid for the dead.net tip of the day six months ago. So 30 years of live GD music on the go, and off I go..

Have a great day, stay cool and best of luck to our friends in the Southern Gulf States (and Western Mexico) that are about to get hit with a couple (few) hurricanes any day now. A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall. Did someone say 1972?

This Morning's Listen (for me)

Going with 11/28/80, Lakeland.

If we have already done this show, guessing we did at some point I was absent that day so consider this a makeup test day. Like the sirens sweetly singing, this one called to me this morning.

Hope you all have a great day... I'm off like a prom dress.

Pole dude & 1980

I believe that was Gary Jenson. Been passed on a few years. I was real wild as a teenager but not quite that wild. I had my clothes on at both 1972 Veneta and 1982 Veneta. Maybe it was my puritanical New England upbringing.
1980, any complete recordings of the acoustic set Dead shows from that year should be considered holy grail material, Radio City, The Warfield and the two New Orleans shows with acoustic sets. Between the two years 1970 and 1980 plus the two or three December 81 acoustic sets with Joan Baez I have counted 70 something shows with acoustic Dead.
Shakedown Stream tomorrow, I’m preparing like a Saturn Rocket on the launch pad. 🚀

1980 and Veneta

Strider, yes, the Warfield and Radio City shows in fall of 1980 are very special in the Dead's history and I am hoping for a miracle. Do you believe in miracles in 1980? Yes!

Jim, yes we hit up the Lakeland show earlier, but another listen is always welcome.

Veneta tomorrow!

Be well folks.

Jim

Glad you are ok!! Bob t

Podzilla

It’s a good thing to have.

Mine also has 4 x 256 GB microSDXC cards. Says 953 GB available, so it must be saving quite a few GB’s for storage info.
I also have an iBasso DX80 (worked great for about 2 years then died) and an iBasso DX120 (bought it before the DX80 died). Both have dual microSDXC slots that can each take 1 TB cards, but the iBasso user interface is pretty crappy, glitchy, and often slow to respond.
The iPod software is still superior even though it’s close to 15 years old. Glad I converted it to Podzilla.

Safari So Good

Just got word, test zoom for tomorrow’s Shakedown Stream went well. Pass the word, “Have you heard the Dead brother!!” Or maybe it was more like a satanical puritanical New England upbringing.

Pick of the day?

8/27/72 , be it old bootleg cassette, Sunshine Daydream old bootleg VHS, Unofficial DVD, Official Rhino 2013 release CD/DVD or CD/blue ray. Or stream?

Years ago it was a prized and favorite bootleg cassette tape.
Pick of the day was a brilliant idea from Bolo. Keep it rolling.

Veneta

I'm in. The funny thing with GD music, and I doubt I am alone.. some songs congeal and some pass right through me at any point in time. The Dark Star was never my favorite, but I love the China>Rider and PITB from this show.

...but all it takes is one receptive moment and the right music playing at the right time and I suddenly 'get' something that used to pass right through me. ..and there are the old songs that used to be key that I have moved on from.

Still, Veneta was always a favorite, I just got sucked into the PITB and the transition in the China Rider more than the Dark Star. I think because Jerry teased Morning Dew and Bob telegraphed El Paso and I always wondered what could have been.

A great show and both well recorded and documented.

So if Strider was wearing his clothes, it should be easy to pick him out. I only recall one person fully clothed in the whole movie, I'll be sure to be looking out for ya tonight, Strider..

Thanks so much for posting and giving us some context.

Third set, Veneta

I talked my way backstage. My brother had been on the planks next to cameraman John Norris during the second set and let me take his place. Playin’ reprise in the film is the music only, film footage is from the third set. I’m on the planks turning around and waving at friends. It’s the shot from that log tree house.
I love Bird Song big time, also China Cat into I know you rider may be one of the most uplifting moments in the history of music.
As for Dark Star performances I saw live that I love, 9/19/70 and 2/18/71 were perhaps tops. Winter/Spring 1969 Dark Star may be some of the most classic of all time. I didn’t start seeing the Dead until January 1970. The evolution of Dark Star is phenomenal. But I was directly in front of Jerry for the third set. August 27, 1972 stands out as one of the most amazing days of my life.
As far as being naked in 1972, swimming (skinny dipping) in the really warm water of Lookout Point Reservoir that summer was no big deal. High School graduation (class of 72) , moving to Oregon, the old days of Eugene, Grateful Dead and being 18 were the most liberating rights of passage I could have ever hoped for. I thank my lucky Dark Stars for those experiences.

8/27/72

My favorite Sing Me Back Home, hands down.

Veneta, Veneta, Veneta!

When I first moved to Portland in mid-late 90s, I met a group of heads that got together every Wednesday night to trade tapes. They were always talking about Veneta.

Veneta, Veneta, Veneta!

Finally I was like, so what’s Veneta?

Gasp!! They were shocked with my lack of knowledge. Legendary Oregon Dead show? Springfield Creamery Benefit? Kesey & The Merry Pranksters? Oregon Country Fair? They quickly flipped me a tape, winked, nodded and smiled.

First I was amazed at the sound quality. This tape sounded better than any of the tapes I had. These Oregon heads! Not only did they have great weed, great beer, but my God, the Tapes! (I’m pretty sure this was 1996ish, so before internet trading for me). Hearing Babbs and the commentary the experience started to form in my mind, and then the music. Oh man, this was it. Too much! I was deep in the pudding.

It quickly became my goto and my all time fave show. Veneta, Veneta, Veneta! I’d say.

Definitely one of the tapes that made me want to get them all.
Hearing this show, I had to know, how many more shows did they play like this?
Well, there are quite a few close to it, but there’s nothing else quite like it.

Happy Anniversary Veneta, a special place and a special show!

PS - Let Me Tell You It Was Hot! How Hot Was It?!?!
Strider, tell us more Veneta Stories.
Love when Wavy Gravy tells that Sewage story… started laughing just thinking about it.

Veneta, Veneta, Veneta!

8/27/72

That China Cat-Rider is fantastic - great dancing by that girl with long black hair.

Excited for Veneta tonight

I wonder what ever happened to the kid that runs a circle around the band during Dark Star!!! Also played 5/3/72 Paris last night, and listening to Tivoli 4/17/72 right now... Don't know what put me in the Europe 72 mood.... Also last thought, if we do get a second box this year, maybe its a 2 or 3 show box like the RFK box was a few years ago.. bob t

T minus 30 minutes

To blast off 🚀⚡️🚀⚡️🚀⚡️🚀

The faster we go, the rounder we get

Boyee don’t stop now

10 to Go

Looking forward to this!

Oregon

Three Sisters, Crater Lake, Cape Perpetua, Cascade Head, Strawberry Mountains, Steens Mountains, Wallowa Mountains, Painted Hills, Pendleton Roundup, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Grateful Dead, Paramount Theater , Portland, Veneta, University of Oregon, Lowell,(this ain’t no commune) expired beer, brown rice, seaweed and a dirty hot dog, Klamath Falls, Robert M. Petersen, Ken Kesey, Ken Babbs, Mountain Girl, liberation, freedom ain’t free, no free lunch, Florence, sand dunes on the shore, heal the sore wound from the Rainbow Trail, is there more over the next horizon, or is the world flat, was the moon landing just a sham from Craters of the moon, Idaho ? I don’t know, but something does ring true the time has come, comin around- in a circle.