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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #341
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    Agree w/ Daverock (and others)

    ... but it always seemed obvious to me, I am not surprised. I am ok with this pick. My wow factor is between 68 through 74. ..but I enjoy hot shows from all years and eras. I am familiar with these shows, I love their mid to late 80's take on Desolation Row for example, it's got a Dew, a Cumberland. We can't be surprised to see these shows get released.

    What I do find surprising is where it is in the rotation and on the biggest subscription year so far. The marketing part of my mind thinks this will affect their ability to so gracefully hit the 22k mark next year, time will tell. I would go so far to say they probably could have done a better job mixing things up the last 9 years and could have done a better job mixing it up this year too. As unpredictability affects the stock market, it might just affect their subscription market. Finally, I really hope (wish) that if they are going to release more of these cassette masters that they do a little better job remastering them. #35 sounded 'pretty good' but I have to believe the more qualified (and considerate) posters here that warned it was not quite pitch corrected. I wonder out loud if there are issues with other aspects of the cleanup and restoration efforts in these years (dolby vs not etc).

    Not a rant.. I am ok with this release just curious to the timing, etc. Did someone mention 12/18/1973? (hehe)

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    last release of the year

    I might be reading this wrong, but i don't think it's fair to suggest Dave chooses potentially undesirable shows once people have paid their money. In fact he released some pretty amazing shows for the 3rd and 4th picks of the year:

    #32 - March 1973
    #31 - Dec 1979
    #28 - June 1976
    #27 - Sept 1983
    #24 - Aug 1972
    #23 - Jan 1978
    #20 - Dec 1981
    #19 - Jan 1970
    #16 - March 1973
    #15 - April 1978
    #12 - Nov 1977
    #11 - Nov 1972
    #8 - Nov 1980
    #7 - Apr 1978
    #4 - Sept 76
    #3 - Oct 1971

    Again, i might be missing the point, but while this year is different in that there are back to back 80s releases, historically the 3rd and 4th picks of the year include some pretty amazing shows spanning the dead's history.

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    If a 1987 show is to be the release for this episode of Dave's Picks, why didn't he choose the two nights BEFORE this, from Hampton? Great Googly-Moogly, the 03/24/1987 show has the most off-the-hook Terrapin EVER! If there was going to be a 1987 show released by this series, I was really hoping it would be this Hampton Show. I was there, that Terrapin had the entire crowd pushed to the back of the Coliseum like those old Maxell ads showing the music blowing the guy in the chair back.

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    Manipulative?

    Daverock, do you feel that you have been taken advantage of?

    I agree with your suggestion, Dave should pick a 1991 show for DaP 37 and announce it when early bird subscriptions start, and not announce what DaP 38 and the bonus disc are until April when it is ready to go on sale.

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    It's always open to debate when you judge someone's motives on the basis on their actions. In this case, the honourable thing for Dave Lemieux to do would be to release two shows from the 1979-1995 timespan to open the season on Dave's Picks 2021. That would be an open demonstration that he genuinely believes shows from this era are as valid as the ones preceding it. If he goes back to 1969-1974, then...
    Announcing all four shows to be released would be a bonus-but again, I think the reason this isn't done is because they are fearful that subscription numbers would drop if people knew what they would be shelling out for.
    As I have said before-the 1960s are shockingly underrepresented in this series. Many unreleased great shows there, I would have thought.

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    Count me in as skeptical. This release seems like Dave’s gift to himself. I saw six shows of this tour, including the first night of Hartford. None of them were overly memorable. More like a few highlights here and there. Have not listened to any of that tour since seeing the shows. If I recall, 3/26 had a cool Midnight Hour/Cold Rain opener, a nice Birdsong and a high energy China/Rider.

    Dave has done a superb job, but the supply of quality shows is certainly dwindling. I will give the subscription one more year and then likely revert to a la carte.

    Seattle Kraken - not a huge fan of the name, but the jersey design is tremendous. They really look nice. By the way, congrats to the Lightning. Way to go Jon. You are a first class guy.

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    87?

    Weird, i usually get the emails but apparently missed this one (better check that i'm still on their list).

    If the next Dave's is indeed from 1987 i think that's cool. The boys were really energized in 87 and a quick glance at those set lists makes me pretty excited to hear it (must admit i'm unfamiliar with those shows).

    Dave has always advertised that this series will represent every era of the band. It just took some time to ramp up the Brent era picks. There is some risk subscribing to a series where you only know 50% of the releases in advance. Some people hope and pray for no 80s shows, while others would like some variety from the usual 70s shows (no matter how great they are). After 36 picks i think it's safe to say there is something for everyone.

    They are certainly making enough of these now where you can choose not to subscribe and still have a great shot at getting the releases you want (as long as you don't care about the annual bonus disc).

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    Jerry's comeback after the coma was one of the best stories of the 30 year run of the Dead. I feel for the people that don't like their music past (pick your year). Bob Weir considers the late eighties through Brent's passing some of the best playing they ever had, but what does he know??
    #32 was from the Spectrum 3/24/1973. Oh and a great show.

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    Daverock, I hope you are wrong about this. I think it is too early to tell, however, to support your theory, one of the last two releases from last year was from December '79 and all '80s releases have come in the second half of the year which suggests that indeed the potentially problematic releases are being released in the second half of the year, when nobody knows in advance what those releases will be. By problematic, I mean releases that were recorded on cassette tapes where the sound quality is barely acceptable or where Jerry's voice is so shot that it makes one cringe. We know that most of the top notch shows have already been released and it seems reasonable to assume that the great shows that are still to be released will come out in the first half of the year. It also seems reasonable to assume that this is due to the marketing policy of the Rhino bean counters. The bottom line is that Rhino are just another commercial enterprise and as such, making as much money as possible is the reason for their existence. Call me cynical if you like, but my cynicism comes from age and experience. Grumpy old men rule!

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    Your last post sums up how I feel about this release pretty well. 1987 after 1984 is taking the proverbial. The fact that Dave's Picks 37-and 38, for that matter-will quite likely be from stellar years underlines to me how manipulative this series has become. I feel like stopping subscribing - but then it wouldn't surprise me if 37 and 38 are from 1972 or 1969-with a bonus disc chucked with one of them. This will clearly be an attempt to keep people like me subscribing, and buying shows that they otherwise wouldn't buy. A la carte seems the way to go. I gave up smoking, so surely I can give up subscribing.

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 16:48

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...that’s a beautiful thing to say & yes I concur, 2020 could be used as well for a title, right on my cosmic friend & brother! Love out lives us all. Peace be with you all! Be safe be Kind.
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...where are these trolls & why are they following the Grateful Dead? Do you mean Freaks? Lol 🙃🙏💀🌹

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Submitted by Dogon on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 02:10

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Mott the Hoople were a great live band before the glam era, we used to follow them around their gigs in little clubs around London. Listen to the second album, Thunderbuck Ram!
When their first album was released there was even speculation that it was a Dylan comeback album! Dylan being missing in action at the time after his bike accident if my adled memory serves me well.
I never could stand Bowie so I thought the Young Dudes era was crap. BUT: it did give Bob Segarini the name of his Canadian super group the Dudes after the break up of his fantastic band, the Wackers.
Wackering Heights anyone?

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 03:33

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There was a great box set of Mott the Hoople's first 4 albums that came out a few years ago, called "Mental Train". It has loads of bonus material, as well as two extra cds-one of which features a live concert from the Fairfield Hall Croydon September 13th 1970. Going off that, I can well believe their power as a live band - gives The Who's "Live at Leeds" a run for its money. This concert used to be available as a stand alone release. They only came to my attention in 1972, so I missed all this at the time. I never saw the original band live.

Ian Hunter is a much underrated songwriter, by my reckoning. To this day, there are songs he wrote that move me-the album "Wildlife" has two-"Angel of 8th Avenue" and the beautiful "Waterlow". Even in the Bowie years, underneath all the bluster, he wrote some amazing songs-often tucked away on B sides. "Rose" and "Rest in Peace"-come to mind. Like ballads by The Stones. Only better.

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Submitted by Tramjams on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 05:26

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5-9-77
I have had this debate with friends for years who think, as many others do, that Cornell is the ultimate show in this run. Or maybe the ultimate show in any run. I love Cornell but have always been partial to 5-9. It also contains my very favorite Comes A Time that I have ever heard. I just think 5-9 gets overlooked because of the night before. Sure that is the case with many other shows as well.

I have to concur! 5/9/77 is where it’s at for me as well! Primo performances from the whole group and sound quality is the “best of the best” in my humble opinion. You ‘hit the nail right on The head’, an excellent performance of “comes a time” , maybe one of the best for my taste buds!
I can’t press enough, lol, find yourself a copy and let it rock your soul! Have a grateful day everyone! 🙏💀🌹

It's off to drive I go...after doing an LA burn run this past weekend (1,100 miles r/t) I now have to do a 260 mile r/t to Prescott Valley AZ to pick up my new La Z Boy recliner...my old one gave up the ghost a few weeks ago...been sitting at weird angles...all I can say is play it LOUD there and back...

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 11:07

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Icecrmcnkd...thanks for the heads up about Hawkwind. They are both great albums-BBC 1972 is one I will be going for. It features the classic line up. The other release, Quark Strangeness and Charm is one of the best albums they made after Lemmy left.

There is also Gong Live in Sheffield 1974 which is as high as the sky.

5/9/77 is also my favourite Dead show from THAT run, so I may well be a poorer man come September !

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 12:13

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Quark,Strangeness and Charm is a great album. Highly recommended. One of my wife’s favourite memories of Hawkwind was seeing them in Manchester around the time of this album with Bob Calvert marching rapidly across the stage under strobe lighting hacking a flag to pieces with a sword. The music was great too.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 13:50

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we're talkin' multi-tracks from '68????????????????????

Okay, that 8-21-68 with the silly "Origins" book should be available on CD to all. Then ... what? Is that the multi-track in question or is there more? And if it's "soon," then WHEN???

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 14:15

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Colin - I was there, too. Probably. UMIST or The Palace ?-maybe Salford University. I never made note of when I saw them, but I always did if I knew about it. From 1973 to 2019. This is quite likely the first year in 47 years that I have not seen them.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 14:43

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Love this show. It's the one that turned me from casual Grateful Dead listener to fullfledged DeadHead. And a multitrack to boot. Right out of the starting gate with what I believe to be the finest Promised Land ever (5/23/72 and 5/16/72 are close behind). Bertha, Bird Song, Dark Star, China Cat Sun Rider, Playing in the Band, Deal, and just about everything else is as good as it it gets to my ears. Not a fan of Sing Me Back Home - would have preferred Truckin' or Brokedown Palace. Here we go......

My cats swear by them too...my old one lasted 13 years...kinda weird to sit in a new one...feel like I'm sitting on a phone book but it will break in soon enough ...

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 10:59

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I'm lucky if my cats even ALLOW me to sit in my favorite chair. You'd think that feeding, cleaning poop, playing and stroking might earn a little respect, but no. Apparently, these things are owed!!

Last 5:

Three Dog Night-Suitable For Framing
Mark Lindsay-Complete Singles Collection
Dave's Picks 2-only disc 1 would play :(
Santana-Borboletta
Santana-Festival

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Submitted by unkle sam on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 13:43

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Hey now I too have lazy boys and cats, just got a new lazy boy couch with a recliner on both ends and a beautiful large lazy boy recliner that is controlled by a remote control, awesome. Being an armchair warrior during this revolution that is on going, I need my lazy boy. My cats also love them, the last one that I traded in I got in 1999 and the cats kinda tore and dug and scratched the front of the arms, like cats will do, but we let them do what ever they want as long as they continue to hang around. You know you live with them, they allow you to.
Revolution music
Volunteers Jefferson Airplane "looks what's happening out in the street"
In Rock Deep Purple "wait for the ricochet"
In for the Kill Budgie "when I was born I was given a will, that the meaning of life is I'm in for the Kill"
Captain Beyond Captain Beyond "what was my armworth when they took it away"
Buffalo Springfield Buffalo Springfield "It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound, everybody look what's going down"
If I could breathe, I'd be out there....

" I'm an urban guerilla, I make bombs in my cellar / I'm society's destructor, I'm a petrol bomb constructor"-Hawkwind's follow up single to Silver Machine in 1973. It wasn't a hit, partly because it got banned by the BBC and partly because it wasn't very good. They apparently got busted by the bomb squad , too. Its great when people take you seriously.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 18:44

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Glad you agree

I was fluffing that show recently

Terrapin

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Submitted by RobbZ on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 20:03

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Then I must say, I really admire your fluff!

"Foot of Pride"...?? Robert Zimmerman I do believe......

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Submitted by wave-that-flag on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 20:16

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I liked 7-22-84 a lot as well.

Also liked Dave’s 35. Gotta put the show in order, but it’s all good.

And Foot of Pride is a solid Infidels outtake—there were many.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 08/29/2020 - 07:46

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just asking for anyone with accurate info on Dave's recent utterances, re: multi-track '68 tape release(s)...

We know there's that juicy 10-21-68 that goes with "Origins" -- is that multi-track?

Any other date(s) mentioned? Or is this idle guesswork.

As the victim/protagonist yelped in the final scene of The Fly: "Help me! Help me!"

pick up a family member. On the way I listened to 10 21 71 Dark Star > Sittin' > Dark Star. Bright moon, Jupiter, city skyline...I wait at a curbside for passenger.

At the end of DS reprise, Jerry says "go", and Bobby McGee starts. After a brief moment, my passenger opens the door.

The timing was perfect. That ol' Grateful Dead magic.

Went down to a Record Store Day in Bethel Connecticut to pick up The Who's ODDS and SODS and came upon an interesting BATCH of DAVE'S PICKS in the wrapper. I was shocked I think there was 5 or 6 of them from Dave's 30-35 or 36. These 2 brothers run the store and they do barter. So if your interested give them a holler. name of store is called Disc and Dat in Bethel CT (203) 797-0067. Also saw some LP's. Good Luck.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 08/29/2020 - 12:02

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I'm in Denver. Now that uninterrupted 90-degree days have passed, my wall 'o morning glories that protect the backporch where I fingerpick (the guitar, not my nose) in the evenings has gone from a wall of multi-colored blooms and sun-blocking big green leaves to seed, dwindling to a few hardy flowers and otherwise entropy is running its course. I love fall for the changes, the final bloom of the cannabis plant, the cool morning temps and quickening step, but the senescence is always a little bittersweet.

Correction: I see that it's 8-21-68 (not 10-21-68) that's on vinyl for purchasers of silly comic books. So, yes, I'd like that Dark>Stephen>Death medley on CD, it's a little under ~40 minutes. Tack on another show -- those '68 shows often only run 60-75 minutes, probably set's worth on a multi-act show -- and we've got a winner. Don't think Dave will kill off (3) '68s to make a Pick, though, sadly.

I see that the downloads with the book are all previously released tracks, so no '68 multi-track raising its head there.

Dreaming of another '68 multitrack. The one in 30 Trips is due for another spin.

Cheers, stay safe all.

I put this show back together as follows:

disc 2 Space - stop 3:13
disc 3 Space - start 0:16
crossfade 00:00:30

Also crossfaded the sets.

Total show time - 160:28

Tad too long for 2 CD’s.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 08/29/2020 - 21:16

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there is a sticker you can get that is a smiling frog doing the two finger peace sign

Might be nationwide, but not sure

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Submitted by frankparry on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 01:44

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Put me in mind of the wonderful Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band - I’m the urban spaceman baby, I’ve got speed, I’ve got everything I need.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 03:53

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Frank Parry - that was nearer the mark!

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 13:06

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Not that Dave is listening to you, but 10 shows at 2 discs each, is another freakin' $250 box, doooood!

How about a three-nighter from fall '72? $100.... Or a $100 '69 box?

Seems like we must be only a week+ away from an AB 50th pre-order, no?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 13:34

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I'm ready, I hope they release 9/20/70 with it.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 15:31

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If he uses 70 at all, I’m going with 9/19/70 only cause Dave had it on his original maybe “list” way back when, and if you check it out, many of the releases put out so far are on that list. I’m assuming part of that would have been determined from knowing tapes were available (and that was back in like 2012?)....I think the only other 70 shows on that list are from 1/2/70 which of course is Dave’s 30...
Obviously just speculation but it is interesting how many of those shows have come out.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 08/31/2020 - 06:23

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The Dark Star alone is reason enough. I am under the impression that there aren't any high quality tapes from 2nd half '70, due to Bear in jail.

I would be surprised to see a 10 show box set from 68/69. Maybe 3 or 4 shows is marketable. For 10 shows we're looking at 2nd half 1972, and I'm all for it. Dark Star Galore.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Mon, 08/31/2020 - 08:47

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I would love ANYTHING from 1970, even if it was a compilation or highlights. Pickings are obviously slim, but something's got to be out there. How about the 5/24 Hollywood Festival from Newcastle England that year??I would LOVE to have a clean, crisp, clear, well mixed version of that show! The 4/15/70 show is one of my top 5 fave's from Boxzilla.

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