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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Going back to keyboardists, Tom Constanten brought a lot to the mix. I believe he helped shape Anthem of the Sun and Aoxomoxoa to be the albums they were. His harpsichord playing elevated the live Mountains of the Moon, too, and although he was generally quiet in the overall mix, his presence lent psychedelic shimmer at all times. Its always a something of surprise when he cuts through and solos-there are a few brief moments on the Lovelight from the recently mentioned 4/6/69 where he comes through unexpectedly clearly. Good stuff.

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    I don't believe it's a funny joke to threaten to take someone out back and beat the shit out of them. Talk about uncouth. Your response though is perfectly well written. You seem to write just fine, and then gaslight and obfuscate when you cross the line on what's considered good taste, or are called out on inappropriate speech towards members here. What you wrote is a veiled threat. The veil was the :-) and the statement that you were just joking. It's not funny at all, and you certainly don't have the rapport with me to assume I would get a kick out of it. You've also gone on to explain that you wrote it because you disagreed with my opinion. So I borrowed the word "obfuscating" from one person on the American Beauty page who described the method of retreat you use when people ask you for more details on these fantastic claims you make. That is the perfect word for what you did in response to my question about technical differences you claim were used to engineer the American Beauty bonus concert at Port Chester vs the one released with Workingman's Dead. It was a simple question. Where did you get the information? You didn't just say that it sounded different on the listening party tracks. You claimed a different process was used to engineer the two different shows from Port Chester. Obfuscating is to be evasive, unclear, or confusing. That's you LMG. I challenge you to give a straight written answer to your claim where you said (and this is a direct copy and paste of your words) "the 71’ performance included in the 50th American Beauty Release has a different approach to the overall quality performance finished master. their is a technical difference in the mix and mastering." In addition you said that Ned was one of the factors, so point taken, the show will sound different with Ned. But a guest musician has nothing to do with the technical approach to mastering the tapes that you claim occurred in this show. What is the technical difference? I don't tune in here much, but I thought you had read an article somewhere, etc. But I've seen a few posts and PMs now this is just your MO. At first I thought you were just upset with me because I chose not to buy your Europe 72 CDs. It sounds like this is just "what your trip is"

  • LedDed
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    Well said... I never thought about it like that but how true. Pig was also very much a bar band keyboardist, but it worked for the times. Keith was brilliant, a virtuoso and an insanely good improvisationalist. It never got that good again. But, that was offset by Donna's unnecessary atonal shrieking.

    So there was never a "perfect" Dead era, really. Or one could say that they were all perfect in their way. My listening pleasure is undiminished by any of it, although I always cut the volume when "Playing In The Band" comes back in from the improv and Donna's horrible, embarrassing banshee wails spoil the soup - very briefly.

    Brent was a much more palatable keyboard player than vocalist, but he was no Keith Godchaux. Vince Welnick they settled on because it was easy and they were lazy. Nothing against Vince, personally, it was the gig of his lifetime.

    Be well everyone.

    \m/

  • proudfoot
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    When i cutnpasted the quote...

    "That" name popped up, so my guess was an innocent participation. Yikes.

    Strange days.

    Animosity rears its ugly head.

    So, how about that new Daves?

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    Sorry to disappoint you with my “spew”!
    Your very kind , thank you for letting me know how you feel. Peace be with you! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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    Hello their ProudFoot, thank you for taking a guess on who made the above statement/Quote.
    I’m sorry to say the answer is not ‘The President of the United States of America’, at this time being ‘Donald Trump’
    The Answer is, “Jim Morrison” of The Doors!
    While the the ‘Doors’ were on tour during 1970, the band and I would say in my opinion,” more so by the record label & Paul R. The Doors long term producer and along came the bands long term Recording engineer ‘Bruce Botnick’ was recording performances to make a live album that what eventually became ‘absolutely live’ double LP. Any way to get to the point of all of this, during many of the Doors performances/concerts After the “‘ Miami fiasco“ which was allegations of Jim Morrison exposing himself during the doors performance in Miami Florida 1969. When the doors returned back to touring,during many of these concerts, there was quite a few Attendees who would make “shout outs & many hecklers not so much towards the Doors but more towards Jim and his supposed public nakedness! At times Jim would make say comebacks. And Jim Morrison was recorded saying my Quote In question during a performance where he responded to one of these hecklers and cat collars cat calls, lol , Jim Morrison had a weird Sense of humor and. At another performance Jim Morrison asked one hecklerif ...”if he’d taken a good shit lately ?! Like I said Jim could go out there sometimes!
    Theirs a famous recording Of Jim speaking about democracy versus astrology added to the Doors infamous song ‘Roadhouses blues” which was recorded During the 1970 ‘Boston arena’ performances if I remember remember correctly. What was my whole point of it all it was really all about the recent heckling of the next Dave’s Picks 36 being two performances from 1987 and how some fans can actually believe nothen good came from the 80s. I think to really ‘get’ the Grateful dead one has to keep an open minded attitude. Like Jerry Garcia more than once stating “the dead isn’t for everyone; it’s like licorice!”
    Believe it or not Jim Morrison felt the same way with his work with the ‘Doors’. Jim was once quoted saying,” the Doors is a band people Love to hate” lol ha ha! well that was the reason for my post, it had nothen to due or towards member ‘Butch’ it was a reflection on his recent post stating all the “disappointment among many fans of the band & subscribers of the Dave’s Picks 2020 Yearly prescription in the Dave’s Picks series. To this date , there’s been only three 80’s picks out of 35 picks so far in the series.
    I don’t understand how my post could be looked at as an. Offense to a member but that was not my intention at all so to Butch if you were thinking I was making a personal attack on you the truth of the matter I truly didn’t mean it to look that way if or it seems you believe so. and I really didn’t. sorry if you feel/felt Differently againI only wish you peace. Your name calling don’t bother me I just believe it doesn’t belong on this grateful little community forum we all seem to enjoy. Again it’s over with and I’ve moved on , I hope I cleared some thing up for you butch . Take care & have a grateful day butch and to everyone else here. Be safe be kind and keep on truck’n all you beautiful people out there in deadland!
    🙏❤️💀🌹

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    Man, I need some more popcorn!

  • proudfoot
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    Watching Live Rescue tv show

    A segment takes place in....

    Gainesville!

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Thank you both.

    Butch - for using your ears alone to provide an accurate assessment of the band over the years.

    LMG - for not changing your icon. I rely on that beacon to scroll past your spew.

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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...that’s a beautiful thing to say & yes I concur, 2020 could be used as well for a title, right on my cosmic friend & brother! Love out lives us all. Peace be with you all! Be safe be Kind.
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...where are these trolls & why are they following the Grateful Dead? Do you mean Freaks? Lol 🙃🙏💀🌹

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Mott the Hoople were a great live band before the glam era, we used to follow them around their gigs in little clubs around London. Listen to the second album, Thunderbuck Ram!
When their first album was released there was even speculation that it was a Dylan comeback album! Dylan being missing in action at the time after his bike accident if my adled memory serves me well.
I never could stand Bowie so I thought the Young Dudes era was crap. BUT: it did give Bob Segarini the name of his Canadian super group the Dudes after the break up of his fantastic band, the Wackers.
Wackering Heights anyone?

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There was a great box set of Mott the Hoople's first 4 albums that came out a few years ago, called "Mental Train". It has loads of bonus material, as well as two extra cds-one of which features a live concert from the Fairfield Hall Croydon September 13th 1970. Going off that, I can well believe their power as a live band - gives The Who's "Live at Leeds" a run for its money. This concert used to be available as a stand alone release. They only came to my attention in 1972, so I missed all this at the time. I never saw the original band live.

Ian Hunter is a much underrated songwriter, by my reckoning. To this day, there are songs he wrote that move me-the album "Wildlife" has two-"Angel of 8th Avenue" and the beautiful "Waterlow". Even in the Bowie years, underneath all the bluster, he wrote some amazing songs-often tucked away on B sides. "Rose" and "Rest in Peace"-come to mind. Like ballads by The Stones. Only better.

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5-9-77
I have had this debate with friends for years who think, as many others do, that Cornell is the ultimate show in this run. Or maybe the ultimate show in any run. I love Cornell but have always been partial to 5-9. It also contains my very favorite Comes A Time that I have ever heard. I just think 5-9 gets overlooked because of the night before. Sure that is the case with many other shows as well.

I have to concur! 5/9/77 is where it’s at for me as well! Primo performances from the whole group and sound quality is the “best of the best” in my humble opinion. You ‘hit the nail right on The head’, an excellent performance of “comes a time” , maybe one of the best for my taste buds!
I can’t press enough, lol, find yourself a copy and let it rock your soul! Have a grateful day everyone! 🙏💀🌹

It's off to drive I go...after doing an LA burn run this past weekend (1,100 miles r/t) I now have to do a 260 mile r/t to Prescott Valley AZ to pick up my new La Z Boy recliner...my old one gave up the ghost a few weeks ago...been sitting at weird angles...all I can say is play it LOUD there and back...

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Icecrmcnkd...thanks for the heads up about Hawkwind. They are both great albums-BBC 1972 is one I will be going for. It features the classic line up. The other release, Quark Strangeness and Charm is one of the best albums they made after Lemmy left.

There is also Gong Live in Sheffield 1974 which is as high as the sky.

5/9/77 is also my favourite Dead show from THAT run, so I may well be a poorer man come September !

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Quark,Strangeness and Charm is a great album. Highly recommended. One of my wife’s favourite memories of Hawkwind was seeing them in Manchester around the time of this album with Bob Calvert marching rapidly across the stage under strobe lighting hacking a flag to pieces with a sword. The music was great too.

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we're talkin' multi-tracks from '68????????????????????

Okay, that 8-21-68 with the silly "Origins" book should be available on CD to all. Then ... what? Is that the multi-track in question or is there more? And if it's "soon," then WHEN???

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Colin - I was there, too. Probably. UMIST or The Palace ?-maybe Salford University. I never made note of when I saw them, but I always did if I knew about it. From 1973 to 2019. This is quite likely the first year in 47 years that I have not seen them.

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Love this show. It's the one that turned me from casual Grateful Dead listener to fullfledged DeadHead. And a multitrack to boot. Right out of the starting gate with what I believe to be the finest Promised Land ever (5/23/72 and 5/16/72 are close behind). Bertha, Bird Song, Dark Star, China Cat Sun Rider, Playing in the Band, Deal, and just about everything else is as good as it it gets to my ears. Not a fan of Sing Me Back Home - would have preferred Truckin' or Brokedown Palace. Here we go......

My cats swear by them too...my old one lasted 13 years...kinda weird to sit in a new one...feel like I'm sitting on a phone book but it will break in soon enough ...

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I'm lucky if my cats even ALLOW me to sit in my favorite chair. You'd think that feeding, cleaning poop, playing and stroking might earn a little respect, but no. Apparently, these things are owed!!

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Three Dog Night-Suitable For Framing
Mark Lindsay-Complete Singles Collection
Dave's Picks 2-only disc 1 would play :(
Santana-Borboletta
Santana-Festival

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Hey now I too have lazy boys and cats, just got a new lazy boy couch with a recliner on both ends and a beautiful large lazy boy recliner that is controlled by a remote control, awesome. Being an armchair warrior during this revolution that is on going, I need my lazy boy. My cats also love them, the last one that I traded in I got in 1999 and the cats kinda tore and dug and scratched the front of the arms, like cats will do, but we let them do what ever they want as long as they continue to hang around. You know you live with them, they allow you to.
Revolution music
Volunteers Jefferson Airplane "looks what's happening out in the street"
In Rock Deep Purple "wait for the ricochet"
In for the Kill Budgie "when I was born I was given a will, that the meaning of life is I'm in for the Kill"
Captain Beyond Captain Beyond "what was my armworth when they took it away"
Buffalo Springfield Buffalo Springfield "It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound, everybody look what's going down"
If I could breathe, I'd be out there....

" I'm an urban guerilla, I make bombs in my cellar / I'm society's destructor, I'm a petrol bomb constructor"-Hawkwind's follow up single to Silver Machine in 1973. It wasn't a hit, partly because it got banned by the BBC and partly because it wasn't very good. They apparently got busted by the bomb squad , too. Its great when people take you seriously.

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Glad you agree

I was fluffing that show recently

Terrapin

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Then I must say, I really admire your fluff!

"Foot of Pride"...?? Robert Zimmerman I do believe......

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I liked 7-22-84 a lot as well.

Also liked Dave’s 35. Gotta put the show in order, but it’s all good.

And Foot of Pride is a solid Infidels outtake—there were many.

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just asking for anyone with accurate info on Dave's recent utterances, re: multi-track '68 tape release(s)...

We know there's that juicy 10-21-68 that goes with "Origins" -- is that multi-track?

Any other date(s) mentioned? Or is this idle guesswork.

As the victim/protagonist yelped in the final scene of The Fly: "Help me! Help me!"

pick up a family member. On the way I listened to 10 21 71 Dark Star > Sittin' > Dark Star. Bright moon, Jupiter, city skyline...I wait at a curbside for passenger.

At the end of DS reprise, Jerry says "go", and Bobby McGee starts. After a brief moment, my passenger opens the door.

The timing was perfect. That ol' Grateful Dead magic.

Went down to a Record Store Day in Bethel Connecticut to pick up The Who's ODDS and SODS and came upon an interesting BATCH of DAVE'S PICKS in the wrapper. I was shocked I think there was 5 or 6 of them from Dave's 30-35 or 36. These 2 brothers run the store and they do barter. So if your interested give them a holler. name of store is called Disc and Dat in Bethel CT (203) 797-0067. Also saw some LP's. Good Luck.

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I'm in Denver. Now that uninterrupted 90-degree days have passed, my wall 'o morning glories that protect the backporch where I fingerpick (the guitar, not my nose) in the evenings has gone from a wall of multi-colored blooms and sun-blocking big green leaves to seed, dwindling to a few hardy flowers and otherwise entropy is running its course. I love fall for the changes, the final bloom of the cannabis plant, the cool morning temps and quickening step, but the senescence is always a little bittersweet.

Correction: I see that it's 8-21-68 (not 10-21-68) that's on vinyl for purchasers of silly comic books. So, yes, I'd like that Dark>Stephen>Death medley on CD, it's a little under ~40 minutes. Tack on another show -- those '68 shows often only run 60-75 minutes, probably set's worth on a multi-act show -- and we've got a winner. Don't think Dave will kill off (3) '68s to make a Pick, though, sadly.

I see that the downloads with the book are all previously released tracks, so no '68 multi-track raising its head there.

Dreaming of another '68 multitrack. The one in 30 Trips is due for another spin.

Cheers, stay safe all.

I put this show back together as follows:

disc 2 Space - stop 3:13
disc 3 Space - start 0:16
crossfade 00:00:30

Also crossfaded the sets.

Total show time - 160:28

Tad too long for 2 CD’s.

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there is a sticker you can get that is a smiling frog doing the two finger peace sign

Might be nationwide, but not sure

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Put me in mind of the wonderful Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band - I’m the urban spaceman baby, I’ve got speed, I’ve got everything I need.

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Frank Parry - that was nearer the mark!

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Not that Dave is listening to you, but 10 shows at 2 discs each, is another freakin' $250 box, doooood!

How about a three-nighter from fall '72? $100.... Or a $100 '69 box?

Seems like we must be only a week+ away from an AB 50th pre-order, no?

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I'm ready, I hope they release 9/20/70 with it.

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If he uses 70 at all, I’m going with 9/19/70 only cause Dave had it on his original maybe “list” way back when, and if you check it out, many of the releases put out so far are on that list. I’m assuming part of that would have been determined from knowing tapes were available (and that was back in like 2012?)....I think the only other 70 shows on that list are from 1/2/70 which of course is Dave’s 30...
Obviously just speculation but it is interesting how many of those shows have come out.

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The Dark Star alone is reason enough. I am under the impression that there aren't any high quality tapes from 2nd half '70, due to Bear in jail.

I would be surprised to see a 10 show box set from 68/69. Maybe 3 or 4 shows is marketable. For 10 shows we're looking at 2nd half 1972, and I'm all for it. Dark Star Galore.

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I would love ANYTHING from 1970, even if it was a compilation or highlights. Pickings are obviously slim, but something's got to be out there. How about the 5/24 Hollywood Festival from Newcastle England that year??I would LOVE to have a clean, crisp, clear, well mixed version of that show! The 4/15/70 show is one of my top 5 fave's from Boxzilla.

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