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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    '87 Road Trip

    The summer before I worked in a crappy warehouse.. the job was so bad I decided to save every penny and never do that again. With my savings, and a little more earned in a restaurant during the school year the next summer I Crisscrossed the country several times in my blue 1980 corolla hatchback. Gas was around a dollar a gallon that year (I think).. slept a lot in my bullfrog tent. I was accompanied by the lovely Terry K. Long brown hair, pretty smile, looked great in a tie dye.

    Caught Veneta, Greeks, Red Rocks, Telluride, Alpine, a few more closer shows and a couple stadium shows with just enough money left to make it to New Years. I was given two strict rules, I had to be back for my sisters wedding in August and I had to get my hair cut before the wedding. Made it back with minutes to spare...

    Good fun, miss those days.

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    7/13/84 Dark Star

    Stand alone, symmetrical, legendary . Was at Red Rocks my first time a month earlier. Two weeks before Red Rocks saw Robert Hunter my one time perform with the Dinosaurs at the Line Camp in Poaque , N.M.
    1984. George Orwell would roll over in his crypt if he saw the world now.

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    West Coast Envy

    Dang, hate it when I get my dates wrong.
    Okay, you were all there together at some time and there may have been models, and it was fun.
    Good 'nuff for me.

    Being a broke Mid-Western kid, I had some serious West Coast envy BITD.

    The Greek was up there on my wish list.

    Frost looks dope, Love them Frost '82 tapes!

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    Not 84. 87 was the only time I made it to the Greeks. I would have gone in '88 and '89 too, but I could not find any supermodels to go with me, and after my last embarrassment there (my girlfriend at the time was a looker, but in the mere mortal way).. I just couldn't live up to the expectations.

    I wish I hade it to the Frost. That's my one venue regret.

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    '84 Greek = Superb Quality Tapes

    First off, it shouldn't surprise me, that JIMINMD, BILLY THE KID & BOLO24 were all hanging out at the Greek in '84.
    The supermodels.. I'm not so sure?
    Mighta been, but you can't believe everything you read on the internet kids!

    After talking about it, I wanted to hit up all 3 shows.
    Night 1 & 3 are GREAT.
    I'm thinking 7/15/84 is still my favorite, the Bird Song rivals the Dark Star and if Dark Star wasn't more than a song, and had they played it more than once in the 8 years between 1981 & 1989, it might be more talked about, but shit who cares, they're both great to listen too.

    John Dwork's story in the Taping Compendium about finding out they were going to play Dark Star the night before and making his way to the show at the last possible minute, is just a great read and I highly recommend seeking it out. I didn't look for it online, but it should be out there somewhere. Great reviews of all 3 nights.

    Slap that together with the 3 Great Quality SBDs & some of the pictures floating around on the web that are out there.. and presto-chango you got yourself a little unofficial box set, you can dig in and enjoy. It makes for a nice little trip back to the Greek '84. Recommended for any and all.

    The 7/15/84 tape is one of those tapes = you know every note and nuance because they were your best sounding tapes that you played in every cassette deck you got in front of.

    The Set 1 Opening Dancin' > Bird Song, Cumberland, Esau, Ramble On all great '84 versions. Set 2 is just one great jam! The WDWDIITR > China > Rider > PITB > UJB > Don't Need Love > Drums > Space > China Doll is so ingrained in my memory, it's like an old friend you've been partying with for years.

    There's a cool interview I remember hearing with Phil where he talks about how excited he was to play Dark Star on 7/13/84 and how he wanted to go places after and Jerry shook him off and they wrapped it. Ah well... nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.

    And listen!

    BobT: 5/19/77 you say? I'll listen to that..

    Gonna still try and spin 9/11/81 too, looks like I got the Joani Walker recording, she made some sweet tapes!

    Alright, be well

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    I Peaked at the Greek

    One of my favorite t-shirts back in the day.. then one day I couldn't find it. Gone somehow..

    I only made it there one year. Beautiful venue, perhaps my favorite. I was standing behind Bolo and Billy the Kid all three shows. I was hoping Billy would share one of his supermodels.. as for Bolo, he looked exactly like the picture in his Avatar.

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    Shall we listen for today... Great quality Dick's Picks release with a very unique opening for Uncle John's Band?? Bob t

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    I have never listened to 9.11.81....

    ....gonna fix that soon. 9.11 is also our wedding anniversary. 1999.

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    Did not attend the 67 and 68 Greek shows, just 1981 on

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    RE: Billy The Kid

    I say Well done!

    Great pictures of Jerry and the band by Ed Perlstein from that September '81 run.
    Super Dope Tie-Dye backdrop via Courtenay (assuming).
    Jerry in particular looks stoked in all the pics, like he's enjoying the vibe.
    But the whole band looks pumped - https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/grateful-dead-berkeley-1981

    That was one of "the" venues we always talked about wanting to see a show at..

    Based on the nod, the story and the pics, I think I'll try and give Mickey's B-Day show from 9/11/81, a spin real soon.

    Definitely looks and sounds like it was one hell of a good time!

    Thanks for sharing.

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The excitement is palpable. Looking forward to this evening!

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Ah Veneta!

Hadn't listened to it in awhile and hadn't watched it in a long time.

Once again it took me to far out places, future & past. You just can't beat that!

Wonderful & highly recommended review in Taper's Compendium by John Dwork, who's much more adept at describing the nuance and the magic within the music for anyone whose interested in prolonging the trip.

I will say this, and I'm not sure how many other bands you can say this about.
But in regards to the Grateful Dead:
Man, those guys sure knew how to play on Acid!

Big props to Strider on getting that little presentation off the ground, I enjoyed it immensely!
(BTW Get Dwork involved on the 50th;)

Like Babbs was saying (I could listen to him all day!):
We Have To Work With What We’ve Got, And Show Our Creativity.

And I agree, what we're going through, this is a psychedelic experience.
I think I'm tripping....

Anyhooooo, Wow!

Gonna be hard to follow that up.

I did hope we'd hear a little somethin' somethin' about what's to come in regards to releases this year.
Been hearing some talk of multi-track 1968 and 8/21/68.
If anyone can elaborate on these fine rumors, I'd indulge.

I'd be hip to go explore some '68, little primal Friday mission.
Maybe some PNW touring perhaps, keep the Oregon theme going.

And I see Slow Dog Noodle recommending 8/28/82 for our listening pleasure.

So much to choose from, whose got a pick?

Happy Friday All!

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Great stuff. Multi track Plangent! The video is cool, unreal Strider.

This release is still for sale, if you don't have it, you should grab it. It is well worth it and almost sold out.

No announcements this week. Now what?

Be well folks and enjoy!

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38 years ago today I was at Veneta, Oregon for the field trip. I was pretty beat after driving all night, we stopped and picked up some beer in the morning before heading in. Cool place, fun show, musically, I think the shows at Ventura 7/82 and Frost 10/82 were better shows, but going up to Oregon was a trip.

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Amazing how much can change in ten years. I like the video that was made in/of the audience at Veneta Dead 82. Completely different feeling at this Dead show compared to 1972 Veneta. I’ll have to listen to 82 today. And or watch the video on YouTube.
Last night was a hoot. Ken Babbs is a living legend.

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Those pranksters moved the stream from Friday night to Thursday on me.

I can still watch it though, its all good.

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I still need to do a deep dive into the recent Anthem re-release. Did we do Winterland 10/22/67 (Anthem bonus) as a pick yet? I just listened to the Cold Rain& Snow. It's a thrilling 3 minutes! I always preferred Aoxomoxoa to Anthem, but Jim sez Anthem is a favorite, hmmm. Queueing up.....

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No arguments from me.. I haven't had the chance to fin this one in yet, and I'm already attitude adjusted for just such an event.

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What a great show, this one definately is a show to play over and over again, not just a once over like some shows. What a cool time, the Dead were still living down in the Haight at 710 . Mickey Hart adds a lot to the band. Hopefully, there is some more 1967 -68 in the vault to be released.

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Indeed, what a cool time Billy. I didn't realize they were living at 710 then. The Dead commuting to local Frisco gigs from their 710 crash pad! The mind reels.

I'm really digging Pig's organ on this. So, this is only Pig playing organ? Wow! I guess I tend to associate TC with the best primal Dead organ sound, but Pig is just wailing here! For someone who hated psychedelics, he sure had a feel for psychedelic music. I thought the primal Dead sound was forged in the acid tests, where everyone dosed. But Pig never dosed, even at the acid tests, right? How did he have such a perfect feel for this music? Too many questions for tonight, Gollum. time for some zzzz's.

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Listened to it only once, half paying attention... sort of forgot about the 10/22/67 disc... perfect for a rainy Rhode Island Saturday... be good everyone. bob t

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Charlie Parker would have been a 100 today. Happy Birthday Be-bop Jazz master. Miles Davis was in the Charlie Parker Be-bop Quintet from 1944 to 1948. Also check out Jack Kerouac and Steve Allen performing “Charlie Parker”. Very beautiful
Speaking of beautiful.
I love 1967 Vintage Dead. Will re check it.
Still feeling up from Shakedown Stream. Ken Babbs is a national treasure.

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Inevitably, pig did get dosed a few times, but supposedly he was none too happy about it.
So that and osmosis, how could he not inherit that psychedelic style.
Like coming out of a show feeling like your dosed when you know you didn’t...89 Hampton was like that.
Can you imagine being immersed in a small neighborhood swelling with the sights and sounds of the culture, while the radio played some weird pop echo of it from afar of what was happening right there around you?
I don’t think the Bacon gets enough love for his groovy organ playing.

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Nice to see you mi amigo. Can’t believe you were there. That would have to be a top lifetime experience I’m sure.
So I don’t think I could see you, but I’m guessing you were next to the camera right in front of JG for the third set according to an earlier post? I’ll have to look again before I put the box back...
Been enjoying your posts, and like others, really dig the stories!

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Yes....I kicked the day off with some of his early recordings with Dizzy Gillespie. Superb book on Charlie Parker by Stanley Crouch, called, appropriately enough, "Kansas City Lightning."

It always seemed to me that the Dead only really became The Dead after Mickey Hart joined. Much as I love and still listen to what I have from 1966 and the first 9 months of 1967, they were still, to my ears The Warlocks at this stage. They seemed to explode into colour once Mickey Hart joined.

I had to do work work, not house work.
Got up early for me on a Saturday, fired up the tunes, and got the work done.
It was cloudy and rainy anyway.

Music to do work by:
10-22-67
2-26-77
7-9-89 playing now

Sun is out now, time to pause the tunes and go outside. Will get back to the tunes later when it’s beer time.

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I like where this conversation is going.
Pigpen definitely wails in '66-'67.
He's way up front in the mix, prob since he was DI'd into the PA, so you get the loud Vocals & Keyboards on these tapes, but yeah it's some heavy stuff to hear him just laying it down.

The Pranksters and the Dead were pioneering the sound machines. Was just reading about the Pranksters going to see the Beatles and freaking out. Funny stuff.

Was listening to 10/22/67 yesterday along with some '66 stuff and Pig is just shredding it up.
Gonna take on some 1966 Rare Cuts & Odds today.

Garage Dead!

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Pigpen seems to me to have arrived fully formed at the start of the Dead. Whereas the others were all at various stages of development, and continued to progress at a frightening rate, he was as is, and ever would be, right from the start.

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I like your idea of moving on to this BobT. I've neglected it also. I started it yesterday but got stuck. I had to listen to the New Potato 3 times. There's so many great Potatoes but this surely is among the best. You get the feeling it must have been one of Phil's favorite tunes to play at the time. He really digs in! Added Avalon to my Sunday line-up, but maybe someone has another pick for today, too?

RE Gollum:
EDIT: That 6/8/69 New Potato from Fillmore West '69 Bonus is a big Wow.

Love to know how much more of the 6/14/68 show is in the Vault..
Listening to the Audience tape, it's blow your mind stuff.

Avalon '69 sounds good to me.

Alligator!

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Thanks for the tip! I've never heard it. I'll check it out-

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Oops, I misspoke I was thinking of the New Potato from 6/8/69 on that bonus Disc, but yeah the 6/14/68 show is a ripper, the Caution from that show was on the Bonus disc and there's a cool portion of Audience recording out there as well.

Confusion, dread confusion..

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Two close listens to 10/22/67 was just what the doctor ordered.. They whole thing is amazing, Embryonic Dead. Funny, I just got back from an amazing road ride on my bike and it finished with New Potato Caboose blaring in my ears and I check in to see potato banter here. Nice.

I'm all in with AoxomoxoA Bonus Material. Like Bob T, Gollum (and others), I did not give these guys the proper fanfare when they arrived, not sure why....

I hear Jorge was at both these shows. I can't wait for one of his great posts documenting the events....

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No problem GOGD! The 6/8/69 Potato it is. Anyways, I don't think I've heard a bad potato. Potato Sunday!

p.s. don't be shy Jorge! We're a pretty good natured bunch here.

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Yeah Jorge, get on the New Potato Caboose and ride awhile, Great Post btw!

Gollum - Yeah, I think you'll dig the 6/8/69 Potato, I think it just might be the bestest...

And while there's no Potato on 6/14/68, the Caution is well worth a deep dive, might also be the bestest.

I really dig the original Mixes on both Anthem & Aoxomoxoa.
There's so much more going on.
I thought the story that Bob Matthews was telling about remixing with Jerry on the GOGD cast this week was illuminating.

Alrighty, Enjoy Potato Sunday You All!

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I agree, I think the original mixes are way better, hands down. I came home from a Dead show up in Oakland back in 1979, I put on Anthem of the Sun with headphones and I could hear the color purple, it was very cool. I also heard that the tapes with the original mix of Aoxomoxoa were lost for awhile, I'm glad they found them.

....6.8.69? Set list looks tasty. Going for it!
I have a second edition poster of that run. Avatar updated. Fuzzy because of the 600×600 limitations of uploads, but thats it.
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edit. I recognize that date. 6.8.69 holds a special place in my heart. That was the night my dad was killed when he was t-boned by a cop responding to a call, flying down the street at 80 mph with his lights off. No suffering. I was a year old, so I have no memories of him except pictures. Mom remarried in 1972 and my step-dad was the best dad ever. Don't feel sad for me. I almost didn't add this edit, but I'm among friends here. I've avoided listening to this show for forever because I know at some point during this show is when it happened. But, at some point, one needs to stare down the demons and move on. Onward!! I will meet Forrest one day, and give him the biggest hug ever.
Last leaf fallen....

If I'm not mistaken this is possibly the Notorious LSD Overdose show that is referred to throughout GD history.
If not this night, than this run of shows.
Goldfinger & Owsley both spiked the Apple Juice unbeknownst to the other.
People got clobbered with huge doses.
Robert Hunter was a casualty.
Jerry tells a great story about it on Jerry on Jerry.
Owsleystein!
They discussed this recently on the Deadcast and I guess Hunter wrote Black Peter after this, which was news to me and puts new light on that classic tune.

Admittedly I love geeking out and getting new info on these old myths and legends.

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Well today and tomorrow, August 30 & 31, 1978 Red Rocks... 5 new song intro's, (Miracle, Stagger Lee, World to Give, Heart of Me, and Shakedown Street).... I haven't listened to either for ever, and about a 1000th less than the prior two shows, which were also at Red Rocks, July 7th and 8th.... Not recommending them for pick of the day, but has anyone spent much time visiting these two.... Going to give a listen tonight and tomorrow... Thanks Bob t

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What a story. And you've obviously come thru with flying colors. That'll be some reunion when you finally get around to that overdue hug with Forrest. Onward, brother, onward!

I’m on it BobT.
Set2 on CD-R that I burned more than 10 years ago. It’s labeled ‘slight hiss’.
I assume that I have both nights on a HD, but my computer is not turned on to check.
I had a hissy Set2 on cassette in the 90’s, but the sound quality was better on my copies of the July shows, so I usually went with those.

Crazy story Vguy, that’s great that you had a good step dad.
Maybe some future year on June 8 the Vguy Knights will win the cup,
(just not against the Red Wings).

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Yes, have 30 and 31 on a HD.

Edit2:
I like this Other One.

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Sounds like some cosmic debris. Cool it all worked out as you say, but understandable that there might be shadows lurking. Perhaps sitting down with the show will root em out into the sunshine!
As a pharmacist I tried dating used to say “forward, never straight” !!
Go Knights eh!

Heavy shit VGuy and a great attitude. There is something to be said for being greatful for what we have.. and in life many things are just beyond our control.

Thanks for sharing man.. I will get more out of my next 6/8 listen as a result.

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Listened last night to Charlie Miller Audience tape, only audience available for this show, sort of reminds you of the first week of July 78 shows pre-box release. Second set is more enjoyable than the first, good Estimated>Other One>Eyes sequence. My favorite was the Jam>World to Give>Aiko post drums.... Hey the first of a very limited (3) World to Gives, you can hear it coming during the whole jam or space.... First Miracle to open the second set has an interesting ending... Onward...... bob t

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Well I took my own advice and listened to the New Potato from 6/8/69 Fillmore West Bonus, it's dope!
Phil's bass solo on this one will take you places.
If they were tremendously dosed as I believe they said they were, it further proves what I suspected:
Man, those guys sure knew how to play on Acid!

I'll bite on August '78 Red Rocks.
8/31/78 - PITB > Drums > Ollin Arageed has got me looking forward to journeys ahead.

VGuy thanks for sharing man, it seems to me you've found a good perspective. As you say, Onward!

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Yeah, that's right GOGD! They were just talking about this night on the recent podcast about "Black Peter"! What a co-inky that the Caboose led us to this show. I like this Potato. It's a little quieter in the middle than I expected which was nice. I need to improve my knowledge of New Potato and its development. I guess there is confusion about whether this is the Goldfinger show but from the sounds of it I think it could well be. Something just sounds a little squirrelly. It's fantastic though. The "He was a Friend of mine" is my new favorite version. I'm also a geek about the legends and myths around the Dead. Like Babbs said last week, everyone keeps adding on to and embellishing the myths, and maybe in 2000 years a Homer will write the truth. The idea of Jerry driving his car across the Golden Gate Bridge to rescue a demolished Hunter from the streets of San Francisco is a trip. I know I'll think of that the next time I visit that beautiful bridge.

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A Ho!

Yes sir, Gollum!
This is just the type of Geeking out that can keep me from doing all the other things I should be doing.

And a new Fave Version to boot, can't beat that.
The 12/12/69 Thelma version has always been my "definitive" version of "Friend Of Mine" but that might just be nostalgia from my GD Hour days, I'd have to listen side by side to see if there's a rivalry.
But will keep that in mind for a future rainy day.

Yeah, I know that "they're" saying it was that run of shows at the Fillmore West when the Freak Outs happened. But I think there's confusion on the exact day / date. D Gans and Corry Arnold discuss this show and the Wayne Ceballos appearance at some length on one of the GD Hour Episodes. I'd need to listen to that again and look over the run to get a clearer idea, but again.. that'll probably happen some other day.

I sure wish I had one of them there Photographic type memory thingys.. mine is more of the leaky foggy forgetty type. It's as if each new piece of information writes over the other latest piece of information.
But it does make for continued entertainment and freshness ;)

And alas.. 2000 years, Babbs can we get a request in for a sooner Homer?

Might be down to us, get to writing.

Liking this hissy / dolby'd out 8/31/78 show so far, it's nice and mellow.
Couple shots of whiskey and these Denver Girls start looking good...

Alright, good stuff, glad you dug the trip Gollum.

PS - Glad I'm not the only one Loving the Deadcast! Sad the Seasons over, I'm ready to binge on S2 already :)

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Never said this before you all...

I like From The Heart Of Me, Sunrise & France

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I like From the Heart of Me and France. mmm, not so sure about Sunrise. Let's not forget Rain, my favorite Donna song.

The Workingman's Deadcast was great, much better than I expected. They really put some good work into it. I'm hoping they'll do one for American Beauty, too.

I love that Thelma show and bonus disc. I spent a few days in Yosemite this summer and could not stop listening to Thelma. It's perfect music for the great outdoors.

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I'll have to re-visit Rain in your honor :)
Drawing a blank on how that tune sounds.

Yeah, fingers x'd for Season 2 of the GOGD Deadcast soon.

And Thelma is a sweet one, I think it was UJB, HWAFOM, Alligator > Caution that Gans played in like '88.
Had never heard it and was just gob smacked.
Remember just wishing to know more about that tape and what else was on it.
I didn't hear about DeadBase until years later.

Bright spot.. it's been officially released and we all get to take it places and have it take us places.

See, the world could just be totally righteous and cool.

"What we're thinking about is a peaceful planet. We're not thinking about anything else. We're not thinking about any kind of power. We're not thinking about any kind of struggles. We're not thinking about revolution or war or any of that. That's not what we want."
Play The Dead!!

EDIT: Try to find some ways to ease the fright
Burn into the night

I remember now! :)

PS - Believe Sunrise is for Rex Jackson

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and of course, "we would all just like to live an uncluttered life, a simple life, a good life...."
- love that quote

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Shakedown Street baby! Have not heard France in my God, at least over 20 years, but I am sure I could come up with the lyrics. Did they ever play France live? Maybe once?

Who has a pick for tomorrow? Otis? Where have you been?
Send us a good pick.

Be well folks and hang loose.

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8/30 & 8/31 Red Rocks feel like a sampler of what would become Shakedown Street
It's been a cool listen.

And I don't think they ever played France live, there is that rehearsals tape but outside of that, I think it's only the studio version.
A rarity.

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Ain't that Clementine something else?! Those lyrics are kind of hard to understand. Jerry singing about chopped olive sandwiches, lol.