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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #331
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    Manipulative?

    would be if this fourth pick was a Dead and Co show.

  • #332
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    I like the name Kraken, my first choice was Sockeyes though. Drove by the official store (South Lake Union) last Saturday but didn't stop in. Can't wait to get like a 4 game ticket package.

    #36 is a surprise. The occasional 80's release is all good, but 2 in a row, c'mon Dave. The fourth pick of the year has historically been a solid (but not long pole) show to get us pumped for the sub. I'll postpone judgement until I hear it in it's re-mastered glory, but seems like a weak follow up to a mediocre '84 show. Anyway, can't wait to get the sub info for 37 and 38.

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    Love all the comments so far, and the diversity of opinion. Going back to when Dick’s Picks started, I only bought the shows that really pricked up my ears(68-72) mostly, and continued with Road Trips series. After boxzilla, I had a change of heart, and then had to go back(it’s that collector gene/defect) and fill in all the blanks. It wasn’t too embarrassingly expensive thank God. Luckily, the 2011 Bonus Disc(which I only have a burned copy of) taught me the lesson to always subscribe, so, I have a complete Dave’s series, along with RTs & Dick’s. I guess my first instinct was best, but because I have been buying music from 1965 to the present, that collectors gene/defect has taken over. So, since I MUST have it all, I will.
    I tell myself it’s good to have all eras, but It’s the very rare post ‘77 show that I give a second or third listen to. The bonus disc for me is a MUST have, so the price is worth it(right??).
    I won’t complain about ANY of the releases, and maybe one day, I’ll sell these complete sets. But probably not.
    I can’t disagree with anyone’s decision as to which way they will go. But for me, the first bonus disc that’s from after ‘77, I will be done with the subscriptions. Looking forward to new music, especially AB 50.
    Peace to all, stay safe & healthy.
    Music is the best!!

    P.S. There are only 4 songs from #36 that I am excited to hear(is that a complaint??).

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    Quote from a nice little blog aptly titled "the modern deadhead":

    "The five-month break and their healthier approach made a big difference to the sound. "I can't tell you what it means to have been to the point where it looked like there wasn't going to be any more Grateful Dead, and then to come back like this and to have it be as good as it is now," Kreutzmann said in '88, "We're playing better, we're healthier - all of us, not just Jerry - and we have more energy; I know I do. I feel great! I feel young!""

    http://moderndeadhead.blogspot.com/2009/12/grateful-dead-1987.html

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    I was not aware that one of these was Dave’s first show. That makes some sense. I would probably have only bought one from this year, too, if I’d been buying a la carte. Only problem with a la carte is you end up paying about $50 per show, once you factor in tax and shipping. Makes the sub model more appealing.

    I'm amazed (and proud of you guys) for not jumping all over me for what I wrote. I almost never post here, mainly because of a small contingent of folks who cannot stomach anything that smacks of criticism, or even discernment. And they want to argue if you're being "negative."

    There's NO rule that being a Deadhead means never criticizing a performance, or even loving every era equally. That’s pure BS. Many, many Deadheads who actually saw them perform WITH JERRY back in the day were critical then, and have just as much right to be critical now. The “Drums” segment of 80s shows was literally a piss break for half the people in the place at every concert I attended. People derided the 70s-era version “Dancing in the Streets” as “Disco Dead,” and yes, said the same thing about “Shakedown” when it first came out. “U.S. Blues” was often considered a least-preferred encore, earning the nickname “Useless Blues.” Don’t even get me started on “Day Job” (a song which I happen to think is a fun throwaway, actually). And yes, people who jumped on the bus when “Touch of Grey” came out were looked down on as “Touch-Heads.” I was there.

    Having said all that, I'll give these a listen, and am looking forward to having more HQ versions of "West LA" and "Alabama." But seeing those dates keeps my expectations very, very low. Good era for Bobby fanatics, not so much for Jerry diehards, IMHO.

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    Unless they really piss me off (and they might just do that one day), I will likely subscribe to the bitten end.

    I enjoy it.. and looking back, I am happy with the shows I saw, even the ones that were not 'great,' the regret I have is the shows I could have seen but didn't.. What's $25 a release in the grand scheme of things.. I look at all the money I never spent smoking, that's my Dave's Picks loot.

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    If I was buying alacarte this year , I only would have bought the 1974 release ( Dave's #34).

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    Classic reactions, including mine...

    First off, there's a sheet-ton of great shows left in the vault. Without a doubt. But the number of release-able shows for, say, '67, '68, '69 and '70 is limited, I'd guess. Plus, shows in those years tended to be too short for a Dave's release. Though (2) '68s or '69s would fill three discs. So Dave is killing two birds with one stone: upend the pattern of a strong finish to the year, release his own first show. Any criticism of the vault keeper for doing that is mainly -- according to these pages -- seems rooted in wanting our own first shows released instead.

    There are a ton of shows from '71, '72, and '73 and a handful from '74 yet to go. And good-sounding 80s tapes -- at least judging from 30 Trips -- are not all that abundant. But Dave will be scouring for 80s and maybe 90s tapes to leaven and slow the release of the prime stuff from '71 to '74. Understandable, in a sense, if they want to stretch this vault release stream til Dave retires. Instead, I'd rather see a decade-long model where we just get the cream.

    I'd guess that the 2021 Dave's Picks start out strong, based on an '84 and an '87 to end this year. But if the 3rd and 4th picks are downright lame, I'd probably bail on the subscription after only-god-knows how many years.

    That said, the boxes certainly provide Dave another outlet. And I'd guess he'll want a blockbuster for 2021. I'm still thinking fall '72.

    Frankly, if I were Dave, I'd love to read the squirming comments that greet a surprise pick, knowing that he can make us all stop chattering with a phenomenal #37 announcement or a killer box next year.

    To sum up this year, the June '76 box really hit the spot; I like June much better than the rest of that year. We got (2) Feb '71 shows. The October '77 Dekalb show is a classic from tape trading days and entirely welcome. And June '74 with bonus disc is in the sweet spot. So overall I'd have to grade the year's output as an A and remain open-minded about the forthcoming '87 show.

    Naturally, I'll be riveted to learn about #37 and #38 and the 2021 box. Meanwhile, this winter, I only have a couple hundred shows to enjoy while we hunker down once again in the vortex of unanticipated events.

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    I would love a crisp '91! Though honestly, there are (a lot of) times I actually prefer the later Vince era to the '91-'92 Hornsby/Welnick period. At any rate, perhaps it goes without saying, we still haven't seen a '90s Dave Pick.

    Dick (or I guess should say Dick's Picks) gave us:

    3 '90s
    5 '80s (counting 12/26/79)
    3 '60s (4 if you count 2/13-2/14/70)

    Dave (Dave's Picks) has given us:

    0 '90s
    6 '80s (counting 12/3/79)
    4 '60s (counting 1/2 and 1/23/70)

    It's obvious that the sweet spot for both series' is the '70s. If this is a gift to Dave (this was his first show), it's well-deserved. Heck, it's perhaps even more deserved as a gift to Charlie Miller (his favorite show).

    How's this look? As a very rough (not fully thought out schematic): Each year we get one respective pick from the following eras: '69-'72, '73-'78, '79-'86, '87-'95. I'd take it! But it wouldn't be as fun, I don't think. In Dave We Trust! I subscribe because I want them all and want to support the enterprise, but a la carte is definitely an option now for many at 22K.

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    Hey, that quitting smoking shit was easy,,,, quit subscribing??? Don't know if I have enough man in me for that!

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 16:48

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...that’s a beautiful thing to say & yes I concur, 2020 could be used as well for a title, right on my cosmic friend & brother! Love out lives us all. Peace be with you all! Be safe be Kind.
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...where are these trolls & why are they following the Grateful Dead? Do you mean Freaks? Lol 🙃🙏💀🌹

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Submitted by Dogon on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 02:10

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Mott the Hoople were a great live band before the glam era, we used to follow them around their gigs in little clubs around London. Listen to the second album, Thunderbuck Ram!
When their first album was released there was even speculation that it was a Dylan comeback album! Dylan being missing in action at the time after his bike accident if my adled memory serves me well.
I never could stand Bowie so I thought the Young Dudes era was crap. BUT: it did give Bob Segarini the name of his Canadian super group the Dudes after the break up of his fantastic band, the Wackers.
Wackering Heights anyone?

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 03:33

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There was a great box set of Mott the Hoople's first 4 albums that came out a few years ago, called "Mental Train". It has loads of bonus material, as well as two extra cds-one of which features a live concert from the Fairfield Hall Croydon September 13th 1970. Going off that, I can well believe their power as a live band - gives The Who's "Live at Leeds" a run for its money. This concert used to be available as a stand alone release. They only came to my attention in 1972, so I missed all this at the time. I never saw the original band live.

Ian Hunter is a much underrated songwriter, by my reckoning. To this day, there are songs he wrote that move me-the album "Wildlife" has two-"Angel of 8th Avenue" and the beautiful "Waterlow". Even in the Bowie years, underneath all the bluster, he wrote some amazing songs-often tucked away on B sides. "Rose" and "Rest in Peace"-come to mind. Like ballads by The Stones. Only better.

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Submitted by Tramjams on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 05:26

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5-9-77
I have had this debate with friends for years who think, as many others do, that Cornell is the ultimate show in this run. Or maybe the ultimate show in any run. I love Cornell but have always been partial to 5-9. It also contains my very favorite Comes A Time that I have ever heard. I just think 5-9 gets overlooked because of the night before. Sure that is the case with many other shows as well.

I have to concur! 5/9/77 is where it’s at for me as well! Primo performances from the whole group and sound quality is the “best of the best” in my humble opinion. You ‘hit the nail right on The head’, an excellent performance of “comes a time” , maybe one of the best for my taste buds!
I can’t press enough, lol, find yourself a copy and let it rock your soul! Have a grateful day everyone! 🙏💀🌹

It's off to drive I go...after doing an LA burn run this past weekend (1,100 miles r/t) I now have to do a 260 mile r/t to Prescott Valley AZ to pick up my new La Z Boy recliner...my old one gave up the ghost a few weeks ago...been sitting at weird angles...all I can say is play it LOUD there and back...

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 11:07

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Icecrmcnkd...thanks for the heads up about Hawkwind. They are both great albums-BBC 1972 is one I will be going for. It features the classic line up. The other release, Quark Strangeness and Charm is one of the best albums they made after Lemmy left.

There is also Gong Live in Sheffield 1974 which is as high as the sky.

5/9/77 is also my favourite Dead show from THAT run, so I may well be a poorer man come September !

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 12:13

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Quark,Strangeness and Charm is a great album. Highly recommended. One of my wife’s favourite memories of Hawkwind was seeing them in Manchester around the time of this album with Bob Calvert marching rapidly across the stage under strobe lighting hacking a flag to pieces with a sword. The music was great too.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 13:50

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we're talkin' multi-tracks from '68????????????????????

Okay, that 8-21-68 with the silly "Origins" book should be available on CD to all. Then ... what? Is that the multi-track in question or is there more? And if it's "soon," then WHEN???

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 14:15

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Colin - I was there, too. Probably. UMIST or The Palace ?-maybe Salford University. I never made note of when I saw them, but I always did if I knew about it. From 1973 to 2019. This is quite likely the first year in 47 years that I have not seen them.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 08/27/2020 - 14:43

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Love this show. It's the one that turned me from casual Grateful Dead listener to fullfledged DeadHead. And a multitrack to boot. Right out of the starting gate with what I believe to be the finest Promised Land ever (5/23/72 and 5/16/72 are close behind). Bertha, Bird Song, Dark Star, China Cat Sun Rider, Playing in the Band, Deal, and just about everything else is as good as it it gets to my ears. Not a fan of Sing Me Back Home - would have preferred Truckin' or Brokedown Palace. Here we go......

My cats swear by them too...my old one lasted 13 years...kinda weird to sit in a new one...feel like I'm sitting on a phone book but it will break in soon enough ...

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 10:59

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I'm lucky if my cats even ALLOW me to sit in my favorite chair. You'd think that feeding, cleaning poop, playing and stroking might earn a little respect, but no. Apparently, these things are owed!!

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Three Dog Night-Suitable For Framing
Mark Lindsay-Complete Singles Collection
Dave's Picks 2-only disc 1 would play :(
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Santana-Festival

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Submitted by unkle sam on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 13:43

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Hey now I too have lazy boys and cats, just got a new lazy boy couch with a recliner on both ends and a beautiful large lazy boy recliner that is controlled by a remote control, awesome. Being an armchair warrior during this revolution that is on going, I need my lazy boy. My cats also love them, the last one that I traded in I got in 1999 and the cats kinda tore and dug and scratched the front of the arms, like cats will do, but we let them do what ever they want as long as they continue to hang around. You know you live with them, they allow you to.
Revolution music
Volunteers Jefferson Airplane "looks what's happening out in the street"
In Rock Deep Purple "wait for the ricochet"
In for the Kill Budgie "when I was born I was given a will, that the meaning of life is I'm in for the Kill"
Captain Beyond Captain Beyond "what was my armworth when they took it away"
Buffalo Springfield Buffalo Springfield "It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound, everybody look what's going down"
If I could breathe, I'd be out there....

" I'm an urban guerilla, I make bombs in my cellar / I'm society's destructor, I'm a petrol bomb constructor"-Hawkwind's follow up single to Silver Machine in 1973. It wasn't a hit, partly because it got banned by the BBC and partly because it wasn't very good. They apparently got busted by the bomb squad , too. Its great when people take you seriously.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 18:44

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Glad you agree

I was fluffing that show recently

Terrapin

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Submitted by RobbZ on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 20:03

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Then I must say, I really admire your fluff!

"Foot of Pride"...?? Robert Zimmerman I do believe......

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Submitted by wave-that-flag on Fri, 08/28/2020 - 20:16

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I liked 7-22-84 a lot as well.

Also liked Dave’s 35. Gotta put the show in order, but it’s all good.

And Foot of Pride is a solid Infidels outtake—there were many.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 08/29/2020 - 07:46

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just asking for anyone with accurate info on Dave's recent utterances, re: multi-track '68 tape release(s)...

We know there's that juicy 10-21-68 that goes with "Origins" -- is that multi-track?

Any other date(s) mentioned? Or is this idle guesswork.

As the victim/protagonist yelped in the final scene of The Fly: "Help me! Help me!"

pick up a family member. On the way I listened to 10 21 71 Dark Star > Sittin' > Dark Star. Bright moon, Jupiter, city skyline...I wait at a curbside for passenger.

At the end of DS reprise, Jerry says "go", and Bobby McGee starts. After a brief moment, my passenger opens the door.

The timing was perfect. That ol' Grateful Dead magic.

Went down to a Record Store Day in Bethel Connecticut to pick up The Who's ODDS and SODS and came upon an interesting BATCH of DAVE'S PICKS in the wrapper. I was shocked I think there was 5 or 6 of them from Dave's 30-35 or 36. These 2 brothers run the store and they do barter. So if your interested give them a holler. name of store is called Disc and Dat in Bethel CT (203) 797-0067. Also saw some LP's. Good Luck.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 08/29/2020 - 12:02

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I'm in Denver. Now that uninterrupted 90-degree days have passed, my wall 'o morning glories that protect the backporch where I fingerpick (the guitar, not my nose) in the evenings has gone from a wall of multi-colored blooms and sun-blocking big green leaves to seed, dwindling to a few hardy flowers and otherwise entropy is running its course. I love fall for the changes, the final bloom of the cannabis plant, the cool morning temps and quickening step, but the senescence is always a little bittersweet.

Correction: I see that it's 8-21-68 (not 10-21-68) that's on vinyl for purchasers of silly comic books. So, yes, I'd like that Dark>Stephen>Death medley on CD, it's a little under ~40 minutes. Tack on another show -- those '68 shows often only run 60-75 minutes, probably set's worth on a multi-act show -- and we've got a winner. Don't think Dave will kill off (3) '68s to make a Pick, though, sadly.

I see that the downloads with the book are all previously released tracks, so no '68 multi-track raising its head there.

Dreaming of another '68 multitrack. The one in 30 Trips is due for another spin.

Cheers, stay safe all.

I put this show back together as follows:

disc 2 Space - stop 3:13
disc 3 Space - start 0:16
crossfade 00:00:30

Also crossfaded the sets.

Total show time - 160:28

Tad too long for 2 CD’s.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 08/29/2020 - 21:16

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there is a sticker you can get that is a smiling frog doing the two finger peace sign

Might be nationwide, but not sure

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Submitted by frankparry on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 01:44

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Put me in mind of the wonderful Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band - I’m the urban spaceman baby, I’ve got speed, I’ve got everything I need.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 03:53

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Frank Parry - that was nearer the mark!

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 13:06

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Not that Dave is listening to you, but 10 shows at 2 discs each, is another freakin' $250 box, doooood!

How about a three-nighter from fall '72? $100.... Or a $100 '69 box?

Seems like we must be only a week+ away from an AB 50th pre-order, no?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 13:34

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I'm ready, I hope they release 9/20/70 with it.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 08/30/2020 - 15:31

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If he uses 70 at all, I’m going with 9/19/70 only cause Dave had it on his original maybe “list” way back when, and if you check it out, many of the releases put out so far are on that list. I’m assuming part of that would have been determined from knowing tapes were available (and that was back in like 2012?)....I think the only other 70 shows on that list are from 1/2/70 which of course is Dave’s 30...
Obviously just speculation but it is interesting how many of those shows have come out.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 08/31/2020 - 06:23

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The Dark Star alone is reason enough. I am under the impression that there aren't any high quality tapes from 2nd half '70, due to Bear in jail.

I would be surprised to see a 10 show box set from 68/69. Maybe 3 or 4 shows is marketable. For 10 shows we're looking at 2nd half 1972, and I'm all for it. Dark Star Galore.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Mon, 08/31/2020 - 08:47

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I would love ANYTHING from 1970, even if it was a compilation or highlights. Pickings are obviously slim, but something's got to be out there. How about the 5/24 Hollywood Festival from Newcastle England that year??I would LOVE to have a clean, crisp, clear, well mixed version of that show! The 4/15/70 show is one of my top 5 fave's from Boxzilla.

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