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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    It will be interesting to see how the VAT collection works. Rhino may have to charge a handling fee since they will have to set up a system to calculate, collect and remit the required tax all things they don’t currently do and that will have a cost

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    Also done for the £12.71 import charge (third time this year). Means I've so far paid an extra $50 on top of the purchase price of $113. Due to this I was thinking that this might be my last year of the subscription. However, due to an upcoming UK rule change, I might now continue.

    The UK Government are changing the rules on charging sales tax (Value Added Tax) on items imported to the UK on 1st January 2021 (following Brexit). From this date the responsibility for collecting the tax will become the responsibility of the seller which will mean that Rhino/dead.net will have to charge this in advance on ALL transactions up to the value of UKP135.00 at the current rate of 20%. This will mean the UKP8.00 charge by the Post office for collecting the VAT should be removed.

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    Tier I - DaP 1, 2, 3, 5, 12, 13, 16, 17, 18, 21, 23, 25, 29, 32, 33, 34
    Tier II - DaP 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 14, 15, 19, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30
    Tier III - DaP 20, 27, 31, 35

    Caveat- this is all very subjective. The distance separating Tier I and II is small, but Tier II from III is comparatively larger.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ri7TcukAJ8. Boy, it is smokey in the Bay Area today from all the fires. I definitely take the time machine back to see Howlin Wolf , all day everyday,what a giant of a musician. Next Dave's pick, something from 1969 or 5/26/73, but since I'm always wrong on these guessses , it will probably be neither one

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    Top-notch Daves

    8 19 80 would be a supreme Daves

    Oogah boogah...

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    ....drummer for Widespread Panic. Say hi to Michael for us.

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    DaP 36 is NOT going to be from 1991. (Ah, I feel better already for blurting that out...)

    First, no one knows. I can only remember one time in 36 DaPs when it was leaked ahead of time and turned out to be true. (Boulder '81?)

    Second, we have (8) examples of year-end Dave's and (3) are from the '80s and (5) from '70s. None from '90s.

    Which proves that, to sum up, I have NO IDEA what I'm talking about. I just want some fall '72 and anyone who sez differently? I'm just plugging my ears and going "la-la-la-la-la-la..."

    Is that not the mature way to go? Unless of course they put out 6-22-91, Soldier Field, which was my one Hornsby show.

    To sum up, I'm beginning to chafe under isolation plus wildfire smoke in Colorado, which is nixing outdoor exercise. Fingers crossed for the firefighters and DaP 36!

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    Got my copy #14368 this afternoon in my PO-Box. No additional taxes this time, the total value was printed down with USD 24.99. All CDs looks fine, no scratches, no glue etc.

    By the way, my last five:
    Gov't Mule - Australia 03/30/18 (CDR)
    Gov't Mule - Australia 03/29/18 (CDR)
    Gov't Mule - Red Rocks 08/19/17 (CDR)
    Duane Allman + Eric Clapton - Jamming (Vinyl)
    Santana - House Of Blues (Vinyl)

    All the best from the sunny Isle Of Fehmarn, stay safe
    JJ

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    So, I have made it through a listen and a half. I might have to give it more, but my thoughts are thus: I have been wanting a mid-80s release and put in 7/13/84 to prepare my ears. My initial thought is this-- not top shelf Grateful Dead, but there are some highlights. Comparable to the Idaho 83 show. I initially wasn't too wild about the 79 Chicago show from last year, but that grew on me and I rather enjoy that show now.

    First set: Stranger and Cold Rain & Snow are solid; I was surprised how much I liked My Brother Esau; the Let it Grow is good. I couldn't even listen to Must Have Been the Roses-- the second Jerry started singing was cringe worthy and I hit the skip button. The rest is standard GD first set material, nothing earth-shattering.

    Second set starts with a nice Scarlet-Fire with a great transition jam. After that, set 2 fizzles out with a just fine for the era Dew. The post-Dew sequence feels quite perfunctory-- 'let's play some tunes and get out of here' vibe.

    Just my 2 cents. Fine having it and I like some diversity in show selection. This show, however, will likely mostly sit on the shelf. Yeah, the jams are the main dish of any Dead show, but the vocals mean something and Jerry's are pretty off here.

    For mid-80s I think I might prefer an 85 show next. If dipping into the 80s, however, I would much prefer anything from 89 that hasn't been mined yet. I think the next show should be a Pigpen show. Looking at the last two years, this one is the weakest link in a solid two year run of show releases.

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    Sending discs via Switzerland, which is treated as though it is an EU country or an actual EU country ( Garcialive #14 arrived via The Netherlands) will not help unless a suitable deal over Brexit is reached as those countries will be treated identically to the US and charges will be applied.

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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No tapes from 1970 second half is what I’ve thought too via the nice folks here who know way more about all that then me. But he has it on that list he put out I think right before the start of Dave’s Picks and so far many of the releases (not just DaP‘s) are on that list. Sorry, I can’t find the link and I have the list written down on paper at home....Somebody here posted it again last winter I think?
Since he posted that in I believe 2012 even before all the big returns, I’m assuming there’s tapes for that show?
But that’s all I have, so just speculation....

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'Cause you can't push Jerry 'round
Jerry won't go
Tried tellin' everybody but,
whoa no
Little Jerry Jerry won't
go home

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Putting our feet down -- give us the very best fall '70 show left in the vault to go with AB 50th or we're walking out of here, every single one of us.

Uh, wait, you guys are behind me, r-r-r-right??!!

Dang, all alone again on a windswept highway and no cars in sight............

I have said it before, and I may be wrong, but it doesn't make sense to me to release the anniversary of AB this year. We have already had the WD 50th anniversary release, and as they didn't release a studio album in 1971 there isn't an anniversary edition available for next year. So I would think the anniversary AB will come out in 2021 sometime.

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I imagine it will probably be from 1972 or 1973, I don't believe we are going to get another box set this year, unfortunately. We will have to wait until next year when Dave releases that big 10 show 1969 box set. It will be 10 of the best remaining shows from 1969. They will probably put out an economy model, for those who don't want to drop so much cash.

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Daverock, too late, I'm pretty sure AB 50 is a lock for this fall.

As for DaP36, a '72 or '73 would be most welcome. Although two '69 shows are not out of the question. Too few '74s left, too many '77s and '78s already released (and a '77 already this year).

As for the 2021 box, I just hope I'm still in my home by this time next year. We really don't know what's coming down the pike. "This darkness got to give...."

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I share your enthusiasm for 1969 Billy, but unfortunately I don't think the 1969 set lists are varied enough to offer a marketable10 shows with what's left in the vault. Maybe 3 or 4 shows if the tapes sound good. 1972 is a much more likely candidate for 10 shows I believe. But why stop there? May as well go 30 Trips on us.

Hendrix, sorry to hear about your house situation.

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I'll take as much 69 as I can get. Dreading might be right about the marketing aspect..

Still, I keep thinking we are due, we could start with the Ark, but why stop there - let's slip put a few '68's for good measure.

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To me, with improvisational music, the actual set lists don't matter so much. Between 1968 and mid 1969 ( at least), the Dead honed and developed some incredible music, and I would be interested to hear, literally, every show from that timespan. As the song lists developed, the intensity maybe reduced over the timespan of the whole show. In the 60s they burned the candle at both ends. Shorter shows, less songs - but history in the making.

I guess with listening to shows with limited sets lists, listening pleasure depends on what is done with the material, rather than on what the actual material is. I have a 3cd/1 dvd set of the second Miles Davis Quintet here from October/November 1967. Basically the same set list on each of the 5 shows, but it really works. Listen to one show, and I can't help going on to the next.
The opposite is the 4 cd Humble Pie box from Fillmore East 1971. 4 shows which are virtually identical. Play one - that's all I need. Its a good show - the sound quality is amazing but the same show repeated 4 times, almost note for note, is a bit much. Listen to one, and move on to another band, I'm afraid.

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Whoa, oh what I want to know-Oh
Where does the time go?

Can't believe it is September first already. WTF. This year has both whizzed by while simultaneously dragged me through the mud whilst plunging hot forks into my eyeballs. And somehow here we are.

Give Me Five!
I'm Still Alive!

Oh, and 69 is a fantastic number as well as a mighty fine year of the GD.

Carry On, Be Well People.

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The show from San Jose State , 10/31/69, is a good one. There are 3 shows from Winterland in late October of 1969 that look cool. Also the shows from the Veterans hall in n Santa Rosa, June 1969, are cool. But that 10/31/69 show, if not part of a larger box , certainly could be a stand alone release.

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Thanks gents, no immediate threat to home ownership here, just recognizing that biz has to pick up and we don't know what the next 12 months will bring. I should have worded it differently: many face uncertainty. No woe-is-me here, just putting my hopes into starker terms than needed at this point.

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36, sheeeett, I’m still waiting to know WTF happened to 35...
4 weeks since it was a mile from our house but was sent back (still not sure why shipping label was changed?)
3 weeks since the PO in Carlsbad said the receiver, Rhino?, refused it? and now nobody seems to have a clue where it is and the radio silence is deafening...

69 is mighty fine, but concur that a ten show box is probably not marketable. Also don’t think they’d want to deplete what quality shows they have in one shot. Sure an Ark box now, a Dave’s or 2 later, ya know, spread it out. Sorta like 74, been spreading that since way back in the nineties. But with Dave & company, who the hell knows? From what I read recently, something tells me Pinkus is likely hands on too...
But hey, here’s to 69! Perhaps 36 will be 69, which might somehow tie to if 6 were 9, which ties to Hendrixfreak, which means it’ll be a fall 72!
figure at some point he’s gonna hit those Summer Berkeley shows again...2 I believe are on that list of his...

PS: Love Weir doing if 6 were 9

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Whew..

I guess it was a bit premature to claim dibs on your E72 box then. Sincere apologies.

:D

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Here’s that Dave’s Possible List that someone posted I think last winter? Sorry, can’t find the link to the original interview...
The gist was these were shows he was “thinking“ about back then (2012?, maybe earlier?)...
Since he’d been around for a while by then you’d assume he knew of sources? Maybe not?
Apologize for any mistakes...just find it interesting that he’s used 17 outta 45 of this list in what? 8 years or so...

POSSIBLE LIST
-1/20/68 Eureka DS
-4/21/69 Ark DS
-4/23/69 Ark DS
-1/2/70 Fillmore DS - DaP 30 ✔️
-1/3/70 Fillmore p/o - Dap 30 ✔️
-9/19/70 Fillmore DS
-11/7/71 Harding DS
-1/2/72 Winterland
-8/24/72 Berkeley DS
-2/15/73 Dane DS
-5/26/73 Kezar (BB)
-6/10/73 RFK DS
-6/30/73 Universal Amp. DS
-9/11/73 W&M DS
-5/17/74 PNE - PNW Box ✔️
-5/19/74 Portland - PNW Box ✔️
-6/23/74 Miami DS - DaP 34 ✔️
-7/31/74 Dillon - DaP 2 ✔️
-9/28/75 Lindley - 30Trips ✔️
-6/14/76 Beacon (BB) - 76 Box ✔️
-6/15/76 Beacon (BB) - 76 Box ✔️
-10/3/76 Cobo - 30Trips ✔️
-5/18/77 Fox
-5/26/77 Baltimore
-11/4/77 Colgate - DaP 12 ✔️
-1/18/78 Stockton
-1/22/78 Eugene - DaP 23 ✔️
-1/15/79 Springfield
-8/30/80 Spectrum
-10/14/80 Warfield
-3/9/81 MSG
-5/16/81 Cornell - 30Trips ✔️
-8/30/83 Hult
-10/21/83 Worcester - 30Trips ✔️
-10/9/84 Worcester
-11/2/84 Berkeley
-9/18/87 MSG - 30Trips ✔️
-7/29/88 Laguna
-10/26/89 Miami DS - 30Trips ✔️
-12/27/89 Oakland
-10/27/90 Zenith- 30Trips ✔️
-6/22/91 Soldier Field DSJ
-9/26/91 Boston DS
-3/29/93 Albany HCSS
-9/13/93 Spectrum DS

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10/31/69 or 5/26/73

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I'd like to see 10/19/71 at Northrop Auditorium. First Keith show, debut performances of Tennesee Jed, Jack Straw, Mexicali Blues, Comes a Time, One More Saturday Night, AND Ramble On Rose.

Historic night deserves Pickin.

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St. Louis, MO
10/18/1972

Set I
01 Bertha
02 Me And My Uncle
03 Don't Ease Me In
04 Mexicali Blues
05 Brown Eyed Women
06 Beat It On Down The Line
07 Bird Song
08 Big River
09 Loser
10 Jack Straw
11 Big Railroad Blues
12 El Paso
13 China Cat Sunflower >
14 I Know You Rider

Set II
01 Playing In The Band >
02 Drums
03 Dark Star >
04 Morning Dew >
05 Playing In The Band
06 Deal
07 Promised Land
08 Brokedown Palace
09 One More Saturday Night
10 Casey Jones

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Sacramento 8/12/72 or
Long Beach 12/15/72

*predicted by Gollum 9/1/20, 8:35pm(PT)*

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I get the feeling Maples Pavilion 73 will get released one day too.

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...love everyone’s picks for Dave’s Picks #36!
I love Dave’s Old List!
I love More Pigpen!
I love another 80’s Dave’s Picks for #36!
I love...what?! wait a minute...What?! 🙃
🙃

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Although it is quite possible that DaP 36 will be from the 2nd half of 1972, it's unlikely either show release will come to fruition. We can cross off 1974, 1976, 1977, and the rest of the 1980's decade.
My prediction is a 60's show or a 2 or 3 60's compilation.
We will find out what Dave's Picks Volume 36 will be sometime in mid-October.

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I really find annoying when the band started not having the Phil intro in The Other One. 6 29 84 for exmple. Bobby whispers the first set of lyrix.

Phil intro, please.

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I read an interview with Keith Richards recently, in which he said that he felt one of his principle roles in creating Stones records was in setting them up with a memorable introduction. Which figures...countless records by The Stones can identified by their opening chords. These intros are excellent scenes setters - much as Phil's bass runs are for The Other One. As indicated by Proudfoot, below.

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We Want Phil!

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DROP THEM I say!
Agreement here is simple.

Sixtus

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In Phil we trust.

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AWESOME

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It is the lack his identifiable presence that is a major let down, for me, on Dave's 35. One of the enduring aspects of the Dead's music is the way Phil and Jerry played off one another. Maybe he had given up the ghost by 1984.

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He was there.. the main problems in the '80's were the recordings and the mix, but there were weak nights. The Weir Mickey Mouse voice effect was got old exactly the second time it was deployed as well, and I do miss the thundering opening bass riffs that mark peak Other Ones. The whispering vocal entries don't compare well.

...perhaps Phil began his triumphant return with the Hampton Box of Rain breakout in March, 86.

Much like with the Grinch's heart, his bass and amp grew three sizes that day and doubled again that the day he gave up the Heinekens.

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Following trends, it seems that Dave has been giving a good mix of eras each year. Eras based upon band makeup:
Pigpen
One drummer 1971-74, with or without Pigpen and/or Keith, which can be separated into three distinct eras (just Pig, Pig and Keith, and just Keith)
Two drummer post-hiatus 1976-early 79
Brent era
He has skipped Vince era so far

So far this year, we have gotten two drummer post-hiatus, one drummer 71-74 (no Pigpen) and Brent era. I don't see us getting something from 73 so close to the Jai Alia 74 show. It seems they usually use this release to help with subscription sales for next year, so I don't see it being a Vince era. I think this will be a Pigpen release, hoping for a two show 68 or 69 release personally.

I doubt 1970 as there will be an American Beauty release with a show, hopefully something from said year. I saw somewhere speculation that they would put off the 50th anniversary AB release until next year because we already got one this year with Workingman's Dead. No way. What, we are going to celebrate the 51st anniversary of the release? I don't think so....

Anyway, I am really hoping for Pigpen on this next release, preferably pre-Keith. I would like more Primal Dead in my collection.

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I believe thats the show where the wolfman introduces them for the 2nd set and they go right into Ramble on Rose.

Clap for the wolfman,
he gon rate your record high
Clap for the wolfman
You're gon dig him til the day you die

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I came up with this hypothesis before Volume 35 and it seems to be on point so far.

Dave’s Picks 2020 Subscriptions on 10/29/19 Dave states:
“I love the 2019 as much as I’ve ever loved any of the years we’ve done. I really do, I think that the variety is quite perfect.”

He goes on and IMO implies that the 2020 release schedule will be very similar to that “perfect” format.

2019 - Eras
1977-02-26 - Volume 29 - Keith & Donna 2 Drummer Era
1970-02-01 - Volume 30 - Pigpen Era
1979-12-03 - Volume 31 - Brent Era
1973-03-24 - Volume 32 - Keith & Donna 1 Drummer Era

2020 - Eras
1977-10-29 - Volume 33 - Keith & Donna 2 Drummer Era
1974-06-23 - Volume 34 - Keith & Donna 1 Drummer Era
1984-04-20 - Volume 35 - Brent Era
Volume 36 - Pigpen Era!

So for what it’s worth - I call Pigpen Era ’68 - ’69 for Volume 36. (Since we'll prob get 1970-71 stuff with AB 50th)

I guess we’ll find out next month ;)

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This is a killer show, time to get this out Dave. This is just a few streets over from where the Dead played their first show as the Grateful Dead, the San Jose Acid Test, The house they played in is still there, they saved it as a landmark. The Rolling Stones were playing at the San Jose Civic Auditorium that night and two of them showed up at the Acid Test later that night.

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Rest in peace Jerilyn Brandelius, passed away a few days ago. She was author of The Grateful Dead Family Album, and Mickey Hart's girlfriend for many years. She was very sweet, and had a great sense of humor.

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are a lot like Brad Marchand. They both bale when you need them the most.

Islanders dominated, but got screwed by a broken shaft. The NHL should ban those damn things.

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Greetings from the great beyond.

I am contacting you at this time to assure you that all is well and to let you know that Dick's Picks shall continue in my absence just as before. My plans for future releases are well known to my teammates and they have sworn with their blood to remain true to the cause.

I hope this release will alleviate any doubts concerning my posthumous powers.

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