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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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January 25, 2023 - 9:54pm

#1341

JimInMD

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Re: WTJ/OB/87

First, I did not make the Spectrum that year and I cannot for the life of me remember why. Pre GPS, much like Washington DC, I was not a fan of Philly driving.. but I should have been at this one. Perhaps I had a test or midterm or something. My memories have faded.

So 1987.. I'm sure I wrote of this before but Wilfred T's post reminded me. I do like DaP 36, an UltraMatrix to the exteme, it's basically a Matrix, and a decent one. I have a love hate relationship with 1987. I think I saw more shows in 87 than any other year. I was a Junior in college, gas was like a dollar five cents a gallon and I had recently bought a used corolla (which cost pennies to drive and almost never broke down).

So I caught a bunch of shows, but man.. the recordings, although they do capture the energy, really..unless you are in the mood for an audience tape, are.. well...

Trying not to be negative, but of all the UltraMatrix years, 87 for the most part (9/18/87 and a few others omitted) sound more like audience tapes than soundboards.

I apologize for this review, but for a high year for me the tapes seem to mismatch my experiences more than other year. I consider this (and some other ultramix years) a lost opportunity of sorts.
January 25, 2023 - 1:35pm

#1342

wilfredtjones

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3/30/87

I'm currently tuned in, even though I am also currently working my way through DaP 36 in the car. '87 energy does it for me most times...

1/24/71 has long been on my high list. So, it was fun to tune into that PigPen-fest again.

Keep the hits coming and as always Stay Grateful :-)' :-)' :-)'
January 25, 2023 - 8:03am

#1343

Oroborous

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3/30/87

Hmmm, I was there.
I’ve heard this …within the last couple years?
But I should give it another go, cept I got, got, got no time!
If this is the show I’m thinking of, there’s an unbelievable story, but not now…
I gotta git down….

Maybe this WE, though I might need something stronger lol
Onward!
January 25, 2023 - 7:15am

#1344

DeadVikes

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3/30/87

Glad you liked it Bluecrow. My first listen as well. Good show. Recording is good, not mind blowing. Shakedown openers always bring a smile, good Stagger Lee, Box of Rain, Iko Iko, SOC into He's Gone, very enjoyable.
You get a nice Truckin, Other One, Wharf Rat. Close it out with It's All over now. Baby blue. Worth a listen for sure.

Did you get a chance to listen to 10/18/72? Interested in your feedback on the sound.
January 24, 2023 - 1:39pm

#1345

bluecrow

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1/24/71

Fine set of music. Nice sounding board. Pig clearly didn't have it all out of his system after Lovelight (neither did the band) and that launch into Good Loving is great. Awesome grunge version.
January 24, 2023 - 5:43am

#1346

bluecrow

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3/30/87

That is a fun, energetic, Spring '87 show DV. New to me. Very enjoyable listen. Rocking Shakedown to start - reminded me of a favorite from 7/6 that summer. I saw the first 2 shows at the UIC Pavilion Chicago end of that spring tour. Only non-east coast shows and sort of overlooked cause of that. A joyous time - to have Jerry still with us, healthy and happy and ripping it up! Good to have those fairly recent Charlie Miller ultramatrix transfers for this tour.

Looks like there is some NW '71 coming into view on the horizon.
January 24, 2023 - 1:15am

#1347

Forensicdoceleven

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The mediator of the inexpressible is the work of art…..

Mornin’ rockers, let’s rock!!

Pick Of The Day: Seattle Center Arena, January 24 1971

Care for a side order of Ian & Sylvia to go with your crunchy main course of hard rockin’ Grateful Dead??? All marrow, no gristle……….

In January 1971 the Dead made a short excursion through the Pacific Northwest, four shows were scheduled, one was cancelled, and one rarely hears about any of this. Sonically speaking, the Davis and Eugene shows are not well preserved. That leaves Seattle as the best currently circulating surviving document from this month.

And what a document it is!! It appears to be one long set. The Dead start off high with Truckin’, and they don’t throttle down. There’s a China/Rider for me, a Cumberland for JimInMD, and enough grease to keep HendrixFreak happy. Hope you’re doing well, my friend, but be careful---this might give you palpitations!!!

In a way, this might even be considered historic, the last glimpse of the band before the seismic changes that would begin the following month in Port Chester and play out through the remainder of the year. And if you believe, as I do, that first and foremost the Grateful Dead were a rock and roll band, then you will probably enjoy this!!

We are never further from what we wish than when we believe that we have what we wished for…..

Rock on!!!

Doc
Passions are vices or virtues to their highest powers…..
January 23, 2023 - 8:54am

#1348

DeadVikes

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Bills and 3/30/87

Sorry about the Bills OB, we were pulling for them at my house.

The good rats, that is a crazy story. Seemed like a lot going on that night and I love this show.

Here is a change of pace for you, 3/30/87 from the good old spectrum in Philly.
January 22, 2023 - 9:32am

#1349

Oroborous

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Damn

Y’all told us NOT to lick the Toad so of course I did and phew, seemed to have lost a couple daze…

Then it took me awhile to clean off the Gray Matter from where Daverocks head exploded after hearing about the big HW box ; )

Ok, 1/15/79: overall, at least at first, I felt slightly underwhelmed at times? Good show, but not top shelf? So of course Dave will pick it lol. It’s hard to describe, like their playing ok, but tired, burnt..? or maybe I’m just projecting knowing what the outcome is? Perhaps I’m being overly critical, or perhaps like HF and his first, I’m extremely biased and would like to see a four disc Beauty of 1/10 and 1/20/79 and imagine instead only 1/15 getting released from that stretch, though 2/17/79 is great too!
I imagine and would love a nice sandwich with NYE 78 and 2/27/79 surrounding a 1/10 and 1/20 middle, but at this point I’m starting to give up on getting anything I want…sighhhh.
BUT…BUT, that Playing suite surely was a treat, especially that drum jam weirdness, PROPER!
Admittedly I was doing chores during the first so I’m probably generalizing? But the first part of the second seemed to step it up, and then from Playing onward was a perfect lay back and groove stress melting slice of goodness that was sorely needed! Good call BC!
Hit 1/17/68 for extra credit. Another fine, fairly tight outing with a mostly good recording cept a few distorty parts, probably old tape as Jimmy mentions? Always like the early alternate lyrics of most songs including TOO here, (and Sailor/Saint from 9/1/79).
1/17/69 I have dug before, probably via doc lol. 1/17/70 is on the list…

Hollander Stadium, funny you mention DV.
I had my cherry popped earlier that year so was truly itching to go. I could have gone with my older DH friends but being “only” sixteen the rents weren’t about to let me go “all the way to Rochester!” with a bunch of hairy freaks, especially after a bogus drug bust landed some of them in the local paper lol.
My poor mother rip, was terrified of all the R&R shenanigans, especially after she heard somewhere that “someone could stick you with a needle and drugs against your will and you won’t even know it until it’s too late” lol poor mom!
Like, if someone’s got drugs they ain’t wasting it on my teenybopper ass lol.
So unfortunately I’d have to wait until 11/9/79 for number 2.
But I heard about it from my friends and they seemed kinda non plussed. The big news was how the promoter or the band? The Good Rats tossed rubber Rats out in the crowd who being unruly Deadheads from Deep Elem, promptly began pelting the band with the toy Rats lol. Literally booed them off the stage.
Considered by many to be the poorest choice of an opening act in Dead history!
I still chuckle thinking about poor Joan Jet opening for Bobby and the Midnights at a theatre in Crotchfester.
So I finally listened to this one in the recent past and enjoyed it, though I wouldn’t call it top shelf.
Hope you dug it DV as you continue your 79 odyssey!

Go Bills, though I if they continue with their recent fuckery their going down.
Last week was pathetic and I felt bad for vguy having to lose in such a way, but no offense the Bungals ain’t the Fish and if we play like the last couple weeks it’ll be over!
Kinda like the way the VIKS went down : ( oh well, it’s ment to be entertainment, and this year it surely was for both teams!
EDIT: oh we’ll touch of Gray…but it’s alright
Upshot, we can listen to Dead shows on Sunday now instead of waisting time on fut ball!
January 22, 2023 - 1:34am

#1350

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
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The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time…..

Hey rockers!!

Picks Of The Day: Eagles Auditorium, Seattle January 22 & 23 1968

Of all forms of caution, caution in love is perhaps the most fatal to true happiness….

Caution? Did somebody say caution??!! Friends, throw your caution to the wind, and believe!! Believe that there is enough 1968 in the vault to release a 68 box. Yes some are mere fragments, but sometimes even fragments burn bright!!

January 22: Folks, it’s all there! Starts with a cool, greasy, jammy Alligator followed by a long, seamless jam sequence that takes us through to the end of the show. Other One, New Potato, Cross Eyed, Spanish jam, Dark Star (in its early, short version), an early China Cat, Eleven, Caution. Need I say more???

January 23: This appears to be a fragment, but includes a short, crunchy CE/TOO/CE flowing into the rare Clementine, New Potato, Born Cross Eyed, and another Spanish jam (sadly, cut).

Go primal!!!!

Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric…..

Rock on!!

Doc
There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge…..

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

1974 Chop Shop

I am at an impasse with some of the partially released 74 shows.. I think I need to reconstruct the full shows using pieces of the official releases and supplement any missing parts from the best available source.

What were they thinking???

Edit: David Lemieux as a kid.. "Look at all these reels.. I bet we can releases dozens and dozens of songs...."

Chop job redemption

Plangentize and Normanize those ‘74 reels, and Box ‘em up, PNW style.

9/10/74 Alexandra Palace finished

Already on the end of set one of 9/11/74, Playing just started...23 minutes to end the first set. Then a 41minute Phil & Ned where a big chunk is with the band before going into a great Eyes of the World into Wharf Rat... (44 minutes of Eyes and Wharf Rat) .. 108 minutes of jazzy, jammed pure 74 bliss. bob t

9/11/74

That long jammy section with Ned is niiiice. I wasn't even aware of it before. Good call BobT and Daverock.

Missing These Picks..

and who could ask for more than another 1974.

I am not listening to the composites of these again though.. I want to rebuild the complete shows.

1974

some of my favorite releases back in the day were the 1974 multi-show highlight releases, and of course same goes for DiP 4 Fillmore East. Still find them solid and very enjoyable. however - i definitely would like to see full show releases of those shows barring any significant reel issues.

Bluecrow Hat Trick - continuous deep listen to all three discs in a single release. much as I can ask for nowadays.

prayers to fire affected brothers and sisters out in California, Oregon, & Washington - heartbreaking

American Reality

Loading up the phone with the Dead, putting all of 1972 on now.

Do some rain dances & send some good vibes towards the west coast.

We need all the help we can get.

Be Well All

Any one up for some William and Mary.... 9/11/73

Dark Star>Morning Dew included!!! I finished the last Alexandra Palace show (9/11/74), favorite of the 3 shows. I know this September 73 tour isn't everyone's favorite because of the horns, but I like them... Have a great weekend. Bob t

Mickey Hart 77th birthday

Always enjoyed his work, in and out of the Grateful Dead, all around, the faster we go the rounder we get. Rolling Thunder, Diga Rhythm Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Dead and Company. Prolific musician and workingman.
Excited about upgraded Betty Cantor recording of 2/18/71. Also when American Beauty was released my old friend Jimi tripped out on the lettering on the cover. Was the first person I remember to see “American Reality”. More than we ever dreamed it would become , reality.

9/11/73

Never heard this one. I will check it out Bob t. Thanks.

By The Way

Where in the hell is Bolo? It has been a long time.

And Otis?

GOGD, did you find a complete listing of the 375 reels from ABCD?

9/11/73

To my ears, perhaps the best of the fall '73 mini tour with horns. Definitely worth a listen. Might not be the most popular release if it were to ever see the light of day, but well worth the listen. I am right there with BobT, an enjoyable and noteworthy show from an enjoyable and noteworthy tour.

I'm paying the 3 dollars and coming back for the next night!!

To quote Phil and the end of Sugar Magnolia, from the 9/11/73 show..Morning everyone, I'm going to listen to 9/12/73 William and Mary... Bob t

3 Dollars

Grap me a ticket too Bob.. I'll pick you up in a couple hours.

I’ll throw one out

9-12-91
Anniversary yesterday

9/12/91

PITB > Terrapin > PITB sandwich
I'm in!

Funny, I was just listening to So Many Roads comp disc 1 as I hadn't heard it in forever and was putting all GD releases on my phone in case we had to split.

BTW anybody got the 9/26/90 GD rehearsals that D Gans put on the Best of the GD Hour sampler CD?
Jam Out of Terrapin > PITB
I'd like to hear that there stuff, got the Hornsby stuff from 9/28 but never heard the above.

DV: No ABCD list as far as I can tell, but there's a nice list of Betty Boards in one of the Taper's Compendiums, I'll have to look for it when I have a minute.

Alright, Be Well All.
And that TLMD outtake on So Many Roads is worth visiting the next time you get a minute.
Sublime stuff.

I'm In

Giving them a try.. thanks cone kid.

9/12/91 I'm in

just finishing up concert where Phil says "this is the quiet part folks".... bob t

I’m a big fan of Fall ‘91

In fact, I like the whole Hornsby era.

But a Fall ‘91 Box would be cool.
Oakland?
MSG?
Boston?

Which to choose?
May have to draw straws.

Keeping with the 90’s theme

Now spinning a Vguy show, 5-31-92 Sam Boyd

9/12/91

I will check it out. A little MSG. Thanks Conekid. Yes, 91 certainly shines. A lot of great shows.

Oh and it is a Pearson Healy recording, even better.

Thanks for looking into that GOGD. Hope everything goes okay for you out there.

Stay well folks.

91

Agree, most of 91 decently recorded for the most part. Oft maligned, but not deservedly so. Bruce brought a lot of energy and in some ways brought Garcia back to life.

Keeping the 90’s alive

Since the CD-R case in my living room containing 90’s shows I burned more than 10 years ago is open, I tossed in 3-30-94.
The ScarletFirePlayingDarkStar is awesome and worthy of official release.

DHB Friendly Two Day Bickershaw?

Something different and something good. Since it's such a long show, two discs a day should suffice.

Thoughts?

Jim 5/7/72

Jim, I would be in on that but I don't have this show.

Still working my way through 9/12/91. Great show, great recording.

I'm gonna throw in a wild card....

....Mickey Harts Mystery Box.

5/7/72

I don't know what you are doing out there but is smells rotten! Great show Jim, good call. Thanks Man!

Happy Anniversary 9/16/72 Boston Music Hall

How I wish more than 8 songs existed on SB..... At least there is a Playin, Morning Dew, Dark>Star into Brokedown Palace, NFA>GDTRFB>NFA... bob t

Today's Pick

Decided to go with 3/24/73, Dave's Picks #32 for today. Of course it is 73.

Are we something like a month away from #36? My god, time is moving fast this year and very slow.

9/16/72

I might have to hit this one tonight.. as always, thanks Bob.

Partial or not.. looks hot.

9/16/72

Nice pick. I'm not too familiar with this show. Well, it seems a couple folks on the archive claim this Dark Star is one of the greatest of all time. You never really know, do you?! I'm listening to a matrix now. The live music shutdown has given me a new appreciation for audience tapes.

GSTEP....

...."Greatest Dark Star Ever Played."
I have no idea. Most are above average. So there you go.

9/16/72

Big Fan of this show!

IMO top 5 PITB as well as Dark Star.
Well worth the Trip.

This was my goto Bike Ride show for awhile, worked every time!
It's a traveler, and it'll take you places.

Def one of my favorite 1972 shows.

GOGD

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Were losing a bit of steam here.

There Ain't No Place I'd Rather Be

Won't You Carry Meeeeeeee!

Couldn't resist.

Thanks DV, been glancing in, but there's been just a few distractions. (insert eyeroll, face palm, the scream etc)

Meant to praise 9/16/72 yesterday, (nice work Bob T!)
Definitely check out the partial SBD portion, it's one of my personal favorites for sure.

If anybody has the FLAC files of the SBD easily accessible and wants me to patch that transition between Dark Star & Brokedown send em over, I've wanted to do that for awhile, but only have the Mp3 files.

Alright, be well all, and keep it goin', this is a fun little place to visit :)

Dave's 32

Finished my third or fourth listen of this gem. I love how some releases seem to get better with each listen and this one fits that bill. The whole show rocks, so many highlights. As others have mentioned Disc 3 is very special. The He's Gone-Truckin-Jam-Dark Star into the final three songs are just awesome.

Yes, #32,#33 and #34 are pretty sweet. Looking forward to what Dave has in store for #36. Okay, my money is going with 72 or April 78.

Stay well all.

36

Have to think it will be either 69, 72 or perhaps spring '78.

...what's on for today?

Dave's Picks

DV - Yeah, as far as GD releases, we're in the golden age!

FWIW I still think we'll see a Pigpen Era release for DaP V36 circa '68-'70. Most likely '69.

Alright, I know the following for certain:
I'm jonesing to find out if I'm right or wrong :)

Announced in October right? Any theories on the date of the announcement ;)

10/17/82 possibly?

Hi Ya Jim!

Anybody wanna check out the new eBay Audience source of 10/17/82 that just got posted on archive?
https://archive.org/details/gd1982-10-17.150574.eBay.miller.flac2496

I wanna check it out at some point.

Just an idea since you were asking for a pick.

I was going to recommend Vegas 5.30.92 for today....

....but 10.17.82 works. It's Santa Fe!!. Strange show that was just a one off apparently. No tour to support it. Eleven song first set! Let's goooooo!!

82 or 92

VGUY - Either is cool w me!

I don't think I listened to the Pearson Upgrade of 5/30/92 either.

Too Much Dead Bros!!!

EDIT: 10/17/82 it is, look at that set list bro!
Post Space> Throwin'> GDTRFB> Wheel> Other One> Wharf Rat> Good Lovin'. Who does that?
The GD in '82 that's who!
We can do 5/30/92 tomorrow.

So Far...

Here’s what’s been released so far...

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
(First #) = Year:
(2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
(3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
(4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

80: 1 / 27 / #8
69: 2 / 25 / #10
81: 1 / 15 / #20
78: 3 / 12 / #23
72: 3 / 11 / #24
71: 3 / 9 / #26
83: 1 / 8 / #27
76: 3 / 7 / #28
70: 2 / 5 / #30
79: 1 / 4 / #31
73: 4 / 3/ #32
77: 5 / 2/ #33
74: 5 / 1 / #34
84: 1 / - / #35

80 is past due, what about Gainesville? Course that’s not happen with the fourth pick...
69 is past due! Good bet except I don’t think they’ll go for fourth pick...
81, same as above..
So that leaves 72 and 78. I’m going with 78.
Of course there never seems to be enough 77...
Some day you’d think we’d get a 91, but not fourth pick...

GOGD Announcement dates

Last year #32 was announced on 22nd October and the 2020 subscription was announced on 30th October.
My guess would be 20th October for #36.

DaP V36 Announcement Dates

CG - Damn!
That's more than a month....

This pandemic is really warping time.
I didn't realize a pandemic could be so psychedelic, but I've definitely been tripping since March.

Good Stuff and nice sleuthing. I appreciate it, even if it spiked my jones.

Jeez, lotsa drug references ;)

OB - I'ma gonna grok on that there hypiothesissss thingy there for a minute. Nice work bro.

I still call Pigpen era!

Oroborous-1980

Yes, 1980 is of course extremely underrepresented, don't get me started on that. No idea what they are doing with 1980.

I think they will give us the heads up announcement the week before the seaside chat on October 20. Release date is October 30, which usually means I should have mine by November 15.

Dave's 36

10/31/69, if not now, when.

September 72 east coast tour

Never have done this before, but on 3rd show of tour today, 9/17/72 Baltimore.... (Dicks Picks something)... started with the Boston show back on the 14th on Monday... bob t

RE: September 72 East Coast Tour

You probably already thought of this, but it seems like 10/2/72 should get included too.

I wanna do that.
Best Part: Playing In The Band on every show!!!!

Sept '72 is some epic stuff.

Said it before, but I think '72 is my fave year.

Europe box announcement got me back into collecting the Dead after like 10 year hiatus.
After Europe box was released '72 was the first year that I collected all existing shows for.

Kinda envious there Bob T, gonna have to follow your lead one these here days.
Enjoy!

I'm listening to...
A tutorial.
Knowledge is good, but envy is not.

Re: Nov 15th

...of what year? :D

Fall '72. Interesting idea.. I've done E72 in sequence a couple times. The last time I did it.. I had to break out into a different era for a palate cleanse.

Did anyone commit to something for today?

Today's Listening Choices

Jim -

VGUY and I are checking out 10/17/82 - New Miller Audience (might not be as good as the other audience.. not sure what I think yet, anyhow it just popped up)
Also mentioned 5/30/92 (possibly tomorrow though)
Bob T - Going deep with September '72 tour journey.

November what year = Doh!