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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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May 2, 2021 - 3:08pm

#3731

Boo469

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Harpur 5-2-70

NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo
May 2, 2021 - 3:08pm

#3732

Boo469

Joined:
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Harpur 5-2-70

NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo
The vinyl version updated with new remastering, plantgent process, and includes Cold Rain and Snow
May 2, 2021 - 9:36am

#3733

The Good Ole G…

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Harpur College

Feels like we've been here before, huh?

51st Anniversary of one the all time greats today.

Had a good time listening to this last year, we'll see how it sounds this year ;)

The DaP V38 bonus disc has been in heavy rotation over here.
Hot stuff!
And Strider's pal Jay wrote some great liner notes, so cool to hear stories of the '73 Dead scene.

Hope all yours find you and raise a toast to the epic Evening with the Grateful Dead that happened 51 years ago today!
May 2, 2021 - 12:28am

#3734

rockthing

Joined:
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RE: Jerry rips on people who…

RE: Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"

I usually associate that job with Phil.
<squeaky voice> Saint Stephen. Saint Stephen. Play Saint Stephen, man<end voice>.
He can come off pretty harsh sometimes, but mostly with the house lighting crew, maybe.

Oroborous: Nice summary. I've been having a hard time just getting through the 28th and 29th, but that April '71 project sounds well worth the effort. Hearing the interplay of the guitars so clearly on the 28th board really heightens the excitement of Hard to Handle. So much good stuff happening when Tom Contstanten joins at the end. I finally know how to pronounce his name!
May 1, 2021 - 11:55am

#3735

proudfoot

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4 25 71

Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"
May 1, 2021 - 10:03am

#3736

Oroborous

Joined:
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What a run

Been meaning to do a big wrap up of the last 2 huge April 71 Fillmore shows, but just haven’t had the time, and I’m sure enough has been said already, so I’ll just pile on the accolades. WOW, both shows are definitely prime Dead.
I think I’m with Doc in likening the 28th better than the 29, and after hearing every version since 3/24, also think the H2H from the 28th is the Bobbie Dazzler fo sho! But that’s just a dog sense kinda thing as both shows are stellar.
So glad I did the whole month in order as you can appreciate these last shows even more. How far they came on the new songs and how tight, relaxed, on top of things. Basically they started back at Port Chester with a whole new/old GD; balls out shoot em up bar band with a whole slew of new material that totally fit their new motif!
At first it could be manic, sloppy, etc, but by keeping it basic and literally pounding it out on the road (like over 20 shows in 25 days) by the end of the run in NY they had this new MO down!
By the end I don’t think they sound tired as much they just seem extremely comfortable, like anyone on top of their game. There in NY for a week with all the grueling travel behind them, they’ve paid their dues and got shit happening, just need to relax, enjoy, and roll some tape...
I’m sure some of the vibe was due to tape rolling. Tapes not cheap so you can tell their playing to the tape somewhat, but in a good way...and how sweet to throw in all those old chestnuts for the hip NY crowd.
I won’t say 71 has become a “favorite” year, but I’m gaining a much greater appreciation after spending this wonderful time getting better acquainted. Or reacquainted as S&R was on constant rotation during my formative years.
Definitely will be checking out more 71 than just the occasional spin from something later in the year.

4/22/83: that was a nice change up in the midst of all that 71, another solid off the beaten path show we can check off the list. Spring 83 can be a little inconsistent, but this show seemed pretty together and enjoyable.

Did 6/22/73 yesterday since I haven’t received 38 yet but wanted a little of the 73 magic. Still feel like a stranger with this box. Someday I’ll get the right time/space and binge out and get right with it. Still blows my mind that Box has not sold out? Maybe I’ll continue on with that today?
April 30, 2021 - 3:13am

#3737

rockthing

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Put on 4/29/71 last night,…

Put on 4/29/71 last night, my own transfer from the Nth Generation Maxell I've had for thirty years... it actually wasn't too far along the tree... At first I thought maybe I'd forgotten to adjust the speed! lol. Mello~w start, so I thought maybe I should broaden my horizons and go check out 4/28 first. Man, this show is su~per relaxed, too. Was someone saying something about these shows being at the end of a long run... I mean, all I gotta do is look at the dates to see that, I guess.

Whoever was praising the recording (everyone!), truly unbelievable. It is weird how even <EDIT><<audience>> soundboard <EDIT> tapes can vary so much from night to night. I don't know who hit record on this, but I'd imagine Betty and Bob, for example, were experimenting with different approaches from night to night nearly as much as the band. Whoever it was , nailed it on this one! As much a die-hard audience tape fan as I am, I still love these early 70's boards where everyone is still so young, and giddy, and enjoyin' the hell out of it. You get to hear completely off mic things like an incredibly casual, "Whaddaya wanna do man?" before they settle on the next tune. The on-mic stage banter in this period is all gold. "How 'bout makin' this microphone work most of the time?" In fact, that may be what makes '71 so endearing to me, even more than the music. Just hearin'em talk so unselfconciously... or just hearing Jerry talk at all!

I like that Bobby is really clear in the mix, too. The guitars are separated nicely so that even at roughly the same level, they can both be made out. Bobby's always busy doin' his Bobby shix and it's a joy to hear it in this recording.

I do not think I have ever heard The Rub before. Wow. Thank you!

King Bee workin' the transmission till the motor won't run no more!.

It was getting late, but on a piece of paper next to my computer I simply wrote, "Hard to Handle", and that seems to sum it up.

Oddly getting a little lost during the opening Cryptical, but regardless, major applause for tracking Cryptical, Drums, and The Other One as piece! I love that. I'd like to see more shows tracked that way. I've said it before, and no doubt I'll say it again. I know it doesn't matter when your streaming... actually it does matter when you're streaming, 'cause there's a short pause between every single track, and when you've got Song > Jam > Different Jam > Drums > Back Into That First Song, that's a lot of baited breath. I also like that someone is still adding the "In a circle" to the refrain at this point. I don't think that lasts much longer, or maybe it's just normally inaudible to the audience. Man, I've been workin' non-stop lately, I could not stay awake another second. Gotta start over from there, 'cause it appears things are about to really get off the hook.

RE: Three points of contact. Best to have two good buddies holdin' onta ya like you've got a couple broken legs. :P

Re: Streaming from The Archive. Good question. I don't have any facts for you, but I've got a truckload of speculation. It seems unlikely that the streams would be lossless. It takes, like 30 or 40 minutes just to download a 16bit 44.1Hz zip, but, now that I think of it, each track takes quite a while to cache. On my connection, it's usually impossible to scrub forward until I've heard the whole song at least once. The 24 bit 96Hz shows, though, they can't be streaming at that quality, but there is no noticeable difference loading for playback.

I used to go for those hi-res shows, but they take so damn long to DL, and I have to downsample'em to get'em on my ipod anyway... which is where I listen to most of my music these days since I've started commuting a couple hours a day. Just installed an Onkyo music player that plays FLAC and any bit/sample rate you can think of, though. Not sure what the DAC on my ancient phone is all about, though, but at least I don't have to go through the whole conversion and library addition thing. I'm obsessive, but not compulsive. If I'm gonna put the show in my iTunes library, I'm gonna hafta do all the data entry, too. On the other hand, if I've got a FLAC player in my pocket, then I'll just put "Today's drive to work and back" show in and not worry about it.
April 29, 2021 - 6:51pm

#3738

JimInMD

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Re:

"Isn’t today the anniversary of you cracking your skull open?"

I chortled my beer when I read this. Hilarious.. really, this comment is hilarious on so many levels. Many thanks to VGuy for sharing and for the cone kid for remembering it on it's anniversary. Reminds me of Spikoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, 'people on ludes should not drive.' Clearly wise, well chosen words.

The things we learn here at dead.net. "Always maintain three points of contact when inhaling balloons in the parking lot."

I'm behind on what are you listening today. April 71 blew away my free time. It made me look and realize that my digital library is stale.. there have been many Charlie Miller upgrades to shows I had so I have to add these before I listen.. and I am not finished with the FE run.

I have question to all you wise folks out there.. when you stream from the archive... .is it lossless, SHN or do they stream a compressed file like MP3 when you hit the stream playlist VBR button. Anyone know?

Hey.. seriously.., to all the kind, thoughtful and far from norml people out there. I am digging how this thread has become a place to not only listen, suggest and comment on a hand picked show of the day but to check in and add some free form comments. Seems reasonable to me.

Concussion anniversary one day removed.. love it. What were your first words when coming to, It's got a Cumberland?
April 29, 2021 - 1:42pm

#3739

Spectrum78

Joined:
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Dave’s 38

Loving it so far…don’t panic during first 30 seconds of Bertha, they quickly get everything just exactly perfect. Thanks for the sticker Dave
April 29, 2021 - 12:00pm

#3740

jefito

Joined:
November 6, 2007

Progress...

Starting to work through DaP 38, slow progress since I've never really been able to listen to music properly while I'm working, plus got distracted delving into 4/28 and 4/29 of '71.

The 71' is some fantastic stuff -- I've heard it all before at one time or another: the 4/29 Alligator sequence was my first or second bootleg back in college in '76 -- could have also been 6/19/76's Let it Grow/Dancin'/Cosmic Charlie sequence. Both of those are still around, on my gym MP3 player and in my car; the Hard to Handle is my favorite version, a Just Exactly Perfect (tm) handoff from Pigpen to Bobby to Jerry and back to Pig for the close. Later on, I got hold of the 4/28 Dark Star, a perfect, beautiful jewel of a version, from a Gans broadcast, I think, and eventually I acquired the whole 5 show series -- the 4/28 Other One is sublime, and there's lots of other fun stuff as well (Second that Emotion was a delightful surprise the first time I heard it).

BTW, my DaP 38 is #1856. I have no idea what that means -- seems to be random across releases...

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

1974 Chop Shop

I am at an impasse with some of the partially released 74 shows.. I think I need to reconstruct the full shows using pieces of the official releases and supplement any missing parts from the best available source.

What were they thinking???

Edit: David Lemieux as a kid.. "Look at all these reels.. I bet we can releases dozens and dozens of songs...."

Chop job redemption

Plangentize and Normanize those ‘74 reels, and Box ‘em up, PNW style.

9/10/74 Alexandra Palace finished

Already on the end of set one of 9/11/74, Playing just started...23 minutes to end the first set. Then a 41minute Phil & Ned where a big chunk is with the band before going into a great Eyes of the World into Wharf Rat... (44 minutes of Eyes and Wharf Rat) .. 108 minutes of jazzy, jammed pure 74 bliss. bob t

9/11/74

That long jammy section with Ned is niiiice. I wasn't even aware of it before. Good call BobT and Daverock.

Missing These Picks..

and who could ask for more than another 1974.

I am not listening to the composites of these again though.. I want to rebuild the complete shows.

1974

some of my favorite releases back in the day were the 1974 multi-show highlight releases, and of course same goes for DiP 4 Fillmore East. Still find them solid and very enjoyable. however - i definitely would like to see full show releases of those shows barring any significant reel issues.

Bluecrow Hat Trick - continuous deep listen to all three discs in a single release. much as I can ask for nowadays.

prayers to fire affected brothers and sisters out in California, Oregon, & Washington - heartbreaking

American Reality

Loading up the phone with the Dead, putting all of 1972 on now.

Do some rain dances & send some good vibes towards the west coast.

We need all the help we can get.

Be Well All

Any one up for some William and Mary.... 9/11/73

Dark Star>Morning Dew included!!! I finished the last Alexandra Palace show (9/11/74), favorite of the 3 shows. I know this September 73 tour isn't everyone's favorite because of the horns, but I like them... Have a great weekend. Bob t

Mickey Hart 77th birthday

Always enjoyed his work, in and out of the Grateful Dead, all around, the faster we go the rounder we get. Rolling Thunder, Diga Rhythm Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Dead and Company. Prolific musician and workingman.
Excited about upgraded Betty Cantor recording of 2/18/71. Also when American Beauty was released my old friend Jimi tripped out on the lettering on the cover. Was the first person I remember to see “American Reality”. More than we ever dreamed it would become , reality.

9/11/73

Never heard this one. I will check it out Bob t. Thanks.

By The Way

Where in the hell is Bolo? It has been a long time.

And Otis?

GOGD, did you find a complete listing of the 375 reels from ABCD?

9/11/73

To my ears, perhaps the best of the fall '73 mini tour with horns. Definitely worth a listen. Might not be the most popular release if it were to ever see the light of day, but well worth the listen. I am right there with BobT, an enjoyable and noteworthy show from an enjoyable and noteworthy tour.

I'm paying the 3 dollars and coming back for the next night!!

To quote Phil and the end of Sugar Magnolia, from the 9/11/73 show..Morning everyone, I'm going to listen to 9/12/73 William and Mary... Bob t

3 Dollars

Grap me a ticket too Bob.. I'll pick you up in a couple hours.

I’ll throw one out

9-12-91
Anniversary yesterday

9/12/91

PITB > Terrapin > PITB sandwich
I'm in!

Funny, I was just listening to So Many Roads comp disc 1 as I hadn't heard it in forever and was putting all GD releases on my phone in case we had to split.

BTW anybody got the 9/26/90 GD rehearsals that D Gans put on the Best of the GD Hour sampler CD?
Jam Out of Terrapin > PITB
I'd like to hear that there stuff, got the Hornsby stuff from 9/28 but never heard the above.

DV: No ABCD list as far as I can tell, but there's a nice list of Betty Boards in one of the Taper's Compendiums, I'll have to look for it when I have a minute.

Alright, Be Well All.
And that TLMD outtake on So Many Roads is worth visiting the next time you get a minute.
Sublime stuff.

I'm In

Giving them a try.. thanks cone kid.

9/12/91 I'm in

just finishing up concert where Phil says "this is the quiet part folks".... bob t

I’m a big fan of Fall ‘91

In fact, I like the whole Hornsby era.

But a Fall ‘91 Box would be cool.
Oakland?
MSG?
Boston?

Which to choose?
May have to draw straws.

Keeping with the 90’s theme

Now spinning a Vguy show, 5-31-92 Sam Boyd

9/12/91

I will check it out. A little MSG. Thanks Conekid. Yes, 91 certainly shines. A lot of great shows.

Oh and it is a Pearson Healy recording, even better.

Thanks for looking into that GOGD. Hope everything goes okay for you out there.

Stay well folks.

91

Agree, most of 91 decently recorded for the most part. Oft maligned, but not deservedly so. Bruce brought a lot of energy and in some ways brought Garcia back to life.

Keeping the 90’s alive

Since the CD-R case in my living room containing 90’s shows I burned more than 10 years ago is open, I tossed in 3-30-94.
The ScarletFirePlayingDarkStar is awesome and worthy of official release.

DHB Friendly Two Day Bickershaw?

Something different and something good. Since it's such a long show, two discs a day should suffice.

Thoughts?

Jim 5/7/72

Jim, I would be in on that but I don't have this show.

Still working my way through 9/12/91. Great show, great recording.

I'm gonna throw in a wild card....

....Mickey Harts Mystery Box.

5/7/72

I don't know what you are doing out there but is smells rotten! Great show Jim, good call. Thanks Man!

Happy Anniversary 9/16/72 Boston Music Hall

How I wish more than 8 songs existed on SB..... At least there is a Playin, Morning Dew, Dark>Star into Brokedown Palace, NFA>GDTRFB>NFA... bob t

Today's Pick

Decided to go with 3/24/73, Dave's Picks #32 for today. Of course it is 73.

Are we something like a month away from #36? My god, time is moving fast this year and very slow.

9/16/72

I might have to hit this one tonight.. as always, thanks Bob.

Partial or not.. looks hot.

9/16/72

Nice pick. I'm not too familiar with this show. Well, it seems a couple folks on the archive claim this Dark Star is one of the greatest of all time. You never really know, do you?! I'm listening to a matrix now. The live music shutdown has given me a new appreciation for audience tapes.

GSTEP....

...."Greatest Dark Star Ever Played."
I have no idea. Most are above average. So there you go.

9/16/72

Big Fan of this show!

IMO top 5 PITB as well as Dark Star.
Well worth the Trip.

This was my goto Bike Ride show for awhile, worked every time!
It's a traveler, and it'll take you places.

Def one of my favorite 1972 shows.

GOGD

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Were losing a bit of steam here.

There Ain't No Place I'd Rather Be

Won't You Carry Meeeeeeee!

Couldn't resist.

Thanks DV, been glancing in, but there's been just a few distractions. (insert eyeroll, face palm, the scream etc)

Meant to praise 9/16/72 yesterday, (nice work Bob T!)
Definitely check out the partial SBD portion, it's one of my personal favorites for sure.

If anybody has the FLAC files of the SBD easily accessible and wants me to patch that transition between Dark Star & Brokedown send em over, I've wanted to do that for awhile, but only have the Mp3 files.

Alright, be well all, and keep it goin', this is a fun little place to visit :)

Dave's 32

Finished my third or fourth listen of this gem. I love how some releases seem to get better with each listen and this one fits that bill. The whole show rocks, so many highlights. As others have mentioned Disc 3 is very special. The He's Gone-Truckin-Jam-Dark Star into the final three songs are just awesome.

Yes, #32,#33 and #34 are pretty sweet. Looking forward to what Dave has in store for #36. Okay, my money is going with 72 or April 78.

Stay well all.

36

Have to think it will be either 69, 72 or perhaps spring '78.

...what's on for today?

Dave's Picks

DV - Yeah, as far as GD releases, we're in the golden age!

FWIW I still think we'll see a Pigpen Era release for DaP V36 circa '68-'70. Most likely '69.

Alright, I know the following for certain:
I'm jonesing to find out if I'm right or wrong :)

Announced in October right? Any theories on the date of the announcement ;)

10/17/82 possibly?

Hi Ya Jim!

Anybody wanna check out the new eBay Audience source of 10/17/82 that just got posted on archive?
https://archive.org/details/gd1982-10-17.150574.eBay.miller.flac2496

I wanna check it out at some point.

Just an idea since you were asking for a pick.

I was going to recommend Vegas 5.30.92 for today....

....but 10.17.82 works. It's Santa Fe!!. Strange show that was just a one off apparently. No tour to support it. Eleven song first set! Let's goooooo!!

82 or 92

VGUY - Either is cool w me!

I don't think I listened to the Pearson Upgrade of 5/30/92 either.

Too Much Dead Bros!!!

EDIT: 10/17/82 it is, look at that set list bro!
Post Space> Throwin'> GDTRFB> Wheel> Other One> Wharf Rat> Good Lovin'. Who does that?
The GD in '82 that's who!
We can do 5/30/92 tomorrow.

So Far...

Here’s what’s been released so far...

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
(First #) = Year:
(2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
(3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
(4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

80: 1 / 27 / #8
69: 2 / 25 / #10
81: 1 / 15 / #20
78: 3 / 12 / #23
72: 3 / 11 / #24
71: 3 / 9 / #26
83: 1 / 8 / #27
76: 3 / 7 / #28
70: 2 / 5 / #30
79: 1 / 4 / #31
73: 4 / 3/ #32
77: 5 / 2/ #33
74: 5 / 1 / #34
84: 1 / - / #35

80 is past due, what about Gainesville? Course that’s not happen with the fourth pick...
69 is past due! Good bet except I don’t think they’ll go for fourth pick...
81, same as above..
So that leaves 72 and 78. I’m going with 78.
Of course there never seems to be enough 77...
Some day you’d think we’d get a 91, but not fourth pick...

GOGD Announcement dates

Last year #32 was announced on 22nd October and the 2020 subscription was announced on 30th October.
My guess would be 20th October for #36.

DaP V36 Announcement Dates

CG - Damn!
That's more than a month....

This pandemic is really warping time.
I didn't realize a pandemic could be so psychedelic, but I've definitely been tripping since March.

Good Stuff and nice sleuthing. I appreciate it, even if it spiked my jones.

Jeez, lotsa drug references ;)

OB - I'ma gonna grok on that there hypiothesissss thingy there for a minute. Nice work bro.

I still call Pigpen era!

Oroborous-1980

Yes, 1980 is of course extremely underrepresented, don't get me started on that. No idea what they are doing with 1980.

I think they will give us the heads up announcement the week before the seaside chat on October 20. Release date is October 30, which usually means I should have mine by November 15.

Dave's 36

10/31/69, if not now, when.

September 72 east coast tour

Never have done this before, but on 3rd show of tour today, 9/17/72 Baltimore.... (Dicks Picks something)... started with the Boston show back on the 14th on Monday... bob t

RE: September 72 East Coast Tour

You probably already thought of this, but it seems like 10/2/72 should get included too.

I wanna do that.
Best Part: Playing In The Band on every show!!!!

Sept '72 is some epic stuff.

Said it before, but I think '72 is my fave year.

Europe box announcement got me back into collecting the Dead after like 10 year hiatus.
After Europe box was released '72 was the first year that I collected all existing shows for.

Kinda envious there Bob T, gonna have to follow your lead one these here days.
Enjoy!

I'm listening to...
A tutorial.
Knowledge is good, but envy is not.

Re: Nov 15th

...of what year? :D

Fall '72. Interesting idea.. I've done E72 in sequence a couple times. The last time I did it.. I had to break out into a different era for a palate cleanse.

Did anyone commit to something for today?

Today's Listening Choices

Jim -

VGUY and I are checking out 10/17/82 - New Miller Audience (might not be as good as the other audience.. not sure what I think yet, anyhow it just popped up)
Also mentioned 5/30/92 (possibly tomorrow though)
Bob T - Going deep with September '72 tour journey.

November what year = Doh!