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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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August 10, 2020 - 9:54am

#6211

The Good Ole G…

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9/7/90

Bob T is in too!
And I agree words fail & often.

Let’s do it you all.

I’m gonna fire it up and Walk In The Sunshine, wonder why they never played that ;)
August 10, 2020 - 9:45am

#6212

Oroborous

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What the hey..

Since no one else is bitting, shall we go, you and I through the transitive nightfall of Cleveland???
Similar thought at the time: who is this guy? The tubes? I would come to feel like it was not the best fit....though, in some ways my feelings aboutVince have mellowed. Would be ok if I never heard Way to go
Home again, but as a support musician he was good (yasss some of his sounds where lame but much of that was out of his hands).
Still think they should have taken some time off like 74-75....look how well that worked out! Either after Brent passed, or after JGs 92 health problems. I know the tour was booked in 90, but sometime, someway the should have tkjen time and regrouped, imho, which means nothing of course 😉
So 9/7/90?
That’ll give me a chance to backup the mighty Ref 3....haven’t done so in gulp, perhaps a couple years....
Many reasons, none good except my relationship with Murphy and because my UPS needs new batteries and power here often does weird things so I didn’t want to attempt huge backup (acquired a ton of stuff last couple years) without UPS etc...so streaming on the iPad while doing HD backup sounds like a plan Stan!
Just us today?
August 10, 2020 - 9:44am

#6213

bob t

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9/7 & 9/8 90 re Good Ole

I saw these two shows, Vince's first two... 9/8 had a really good second set. 9/7 I don't even know how to describe the feeling if that makes sense??? Brent had passed a little more than a month before... Bob t
August 10, 2020 - 9:06am

#6214

The Good Ole G…

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It's Gonna Be Ok

You were wrong!
Just kidding... kinda. ;)
It was OK, in fact got real good for a bit, but I guess nothing is.. are you ready?
Built To Last
(Groan)

Coffee is starting to work.
OB: You saw this one?
Cold Rain opener, 14 minute Bird Song & US Blues to close Set 1.
Truckin' > Crazy Fingers > 17 Minute PITB
My interest is kinda peaked to re-listen.

Yo Vinnie!
Saw them close to two months later and had kind of the same feeling, but so much had changed in my life, I wasn't sure if it was them or me, or both. And yeah, Hornsby was there and he added a lot of color, I don't even think I knew who Vince was or his name.. some guy from the Tubes.

Ah the good ole days of no cell phones and dare I say it, no internet.
At least for me, I was late to get into this here thing called the WWW, didn't begin to crack this nut until 1992ish.

Good stuff.
Shall we go? Into the early days of Vince? It's a Monday, what the hell..
August 10, 2020 - 8:58am

#6215

Oroborous

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Membering

@9/7/90...my recollection was It was generally good, perhaps a bit subdued? I specifically remember thinking it’s going to be ok....this guys not Kieth or Brent, but he’ll be ok, and more importantly you could tell the Band was going to be ok and they’d picked up right where they left off...
August 10, 2020 - 8:37am

#6216

The Good Ole G…

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Great Music This Weekend

As it should be.

A lot of Love going on in the Dead world in Jerry's memory, it was real cool to see and be a part of (virtually). Hats off to Rex Foundation for the shindig.

I watched bits and pieces (mostly the interviews) on Daze Between throughout the week. I really enjoyed the bookend interviews with the photographers, starting with Rosie McGee and capping it off with Herbie Greene, Ed Perlstein, Bob Minkin, Jay Blakesberg & Susana Millman, that was really cool.

Really Enjoyed the 8/7 & 8/8 Alpine '82 shows, thanks BlueCrow! And thanks for the follow up info, it's interesting that you point out that Phil & Cippolina were LOUD there at the shows, which does correlate with why they'd be quite on the PA tapes. When it's loud on the stage, it'll tend to be quite on the PA tape and, yeah that's what we have.

I'd always favored the 8/8, but that PITB > D > S > Wheel > PITB > Morning Dew is a really great listen, and I played it a few times, it'll take you places. And Set 1 is too much! So yeah, good stuff there, Nice Pick(s)!

8/6/71 the famous Houseboat Tapes, It'd be nice to see that show get the full show treatment as it's pretty darn good throughout and I'm not hearing issues with the tape, but is that one of those things where they only got a few reels back? Curious curious.

Interesting how we had some back to back 2004 - 2005 releases, DiP V31, DiP V32 and DiP V35, great liner notes for V31 & V35. Good stuff you all!

Oh and let's not forget DaP V35, I see it's a bit of a sore subject, but I dug what I heard on my first pass.

Well, should I mention the elephant in the room?

1 Vince Show listened to since April 16, 2020

I read a review the other day about 9/7/90 after listening to Brent 7/21/90 Shakedown Stream, they're saying it's a good one. I can't remember.

Anybody got a pick?
August 9, 2020 - 3:28pm

#6217

icecrmcnkd

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Chicago, Days Between

If you consider Tinley Park as a Chicago show, then Brent’s last there too.

7-5-15 Days Between seemed especially trippy. Very good light show from my view.
There’s a short clip of it at about the 41:00 minute mark of this video.

https://youtu.be/Oswmu2IOPEk
August 9, 2020 - 3:06pm

#6218

Strider 808808

Joined:
June 20, 2007

There’s something about Chicago

July 9, 1995; final Grateful Dead concert.
July 5, 2015; Fare Thee Well final concert.
March 11, 2020 Bob Weir and Wolf Brothers last concert of the year.

On the edge of your city you’ll see us and then
We come with the dust and we go with the wind

Pastures of Plenty / Woody Guthrie

July 23, 1990 / Lest we forget Brent / There’s something about Chicago
August 9, 2020 - 1:17pm

#6219

bluecrow

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8/6, 8/7, 8/8, 8/9 (reverse order)

8/9 - somehow forgot the import of the date until I saw Strider's post. in '95 I was just beginning a whole new life chapter in the southwest, one that continues to this day. 8/9/95 actually started out with some very beautiful Grateful Dead energy, that turned very spooky once we found out about Jerry's death at the end of the work day. By chance had been back in Chi-town in early July visiting family and had caught the 2 Soldier Field shows, totally unplanned, brother had extra tickets. Whole different scene/planet from what I'd experienced in Seattle that spring. Seattle was fun and very well played. Chicago was seriously heavy. But still never expected the news of his death. And yes Strider - the Days Between is an absolute masterpiece. First heard it on the GD hour that featured Landover '93 (at time didn't know that my brother was there.) Hair stood up on end, super eerie, emotionally charged from that first listen - it is always like that. It seemed like Hunter somehow was shown the future that lay before us. For me in some ways as emotionally powerful as any song he wrote. Brings me close to tears anytime I hear it, or really even think about it.

8/8 - GOGD - Alpine 82 - I was in the cheap "seats" on the lawn, but by 2nd set against rail at back of the shed. i don't "think" I was full on smoking crater but it was getting awfully close. agog as this force of nature swept past us, just drinking it in. remember Zakir throwing a drum stick at Mickey as he walked onto stage. Cippolina was just suddenly "there" and Healy had him dialed up loud, no fooling around. I had zero clue who those guys were. The Satisfaction was unreal - Phil was at 11 both in terms of sound and energy. The Brokedown that followed is my all time favorite. Left that show with Phil's bass tattooed across my brain. That show took me to a whole new level.

8/7 - Oro, so glad you enjoyed the rediscovery! I don't know much about Phil and instrument history, I figured it was more of Healy thing. At the time, 8/8 made a bigger impression, but a couple of years later I was gifted with a killer low gen of 8/7 with most 2nd set and show opener and that further opened the door as to how magical 8/7 was. i ended up calling that cassette "Sacred Alpine" and it got more play than any tape in my collection back in the day, and that's a LOT. turned a bunch of folks onto it.

8/6 - that Palladium show is crazy good, and its got a smoking Cumberland! A dub of the legendary bootleg record highlighting the 2nd set was one of my earliest tapes from a pre-hiatus show - love love love the sound from that era. in terms of sources - a wealth of riches there - the Bertrando audience is fantastic and that's where I generally head (there now in fact!) i think it was the source for the bootleg record.

The night of 8/9/95 ended up camping with a friend in a canyon up on Cedar Mesa. I remembered 2 dreams from that night. 1) Jerry playing solo acoustic guitar to about 20 of us in a small room (sort of like the Rambler Room.) He was overweight, sweating, and he was pouring himself into it, giving everything he had. 2) I was on a stage with the rest of the band (no Jerry) watching them perform. I have a clear picture of that scene to this day, I was stage left in the wings, it was dusk, outdoors, no backdrop, lighting was all soft violets and silver, Phil was closest but still a good ways distance. The stage was HUGE and there was something like 40 meters between band members, as in, nobody was close. The music was unearthly and beautiful, but what they were playing wasn't the Grateful Dead.

Love you Jerry.

Take care and stay safe everyone. Time for a cold one!
August 9, 2020 - 10:37am

#6220

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

A Toast

Yaaasss, have a mini bottle of “champagne”...perfect for a Mimosa or 2...need a little hair of the mutt after Playing in the sand last night. Started off with one of those Tall Pliney the Elders and didn’t let up. If we weren’t seasoned veterans it might of been too much too fast, but you and I have been through that, and this is not our fate...
So a toast....to the Fat Man! We miss you more than words can tell....
I used to say today was the day the music died, but as evident by how many awesome folks are still putting it out there and lighting people up as Bob would say, it truly is a testament to just how amazing the Music is, never mind the players. Been tuning in occasionally this week on Daze Between etc and who’d a thunk 25 years later there’d still be anyone, let alone the ridiculous plethora of fine musicians, and the magnitude of popularity that exists. Crazy!
So to JG, Hunter, AND the amazing gifts they bequeathed us!, my old departed Buddies favorite toast: “ here’s to swimming with bowl legged women, and swimming between their knees”
Nostrovia!

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

1974 Chop Shop

I am at an impasse with some of the partially released 74 shows.. I think I need to reconstruct the full shows using pieces of the official releases and supplement any missing parts from the best available source.

What were they thinking???

Edit: David Lemieux as a kid.. "Look at all these reels.. I bet we can releases dozens and dozens of songs...."

Chop job redemption

Plangentize and Normanize those ‘74 reels, and Box ‘em up, PNW style.

9/10/74 Alexandra Palace finished

Already on the end of set one of 9/11/74, Playing just started...23 minutes to end the first set. Then a 41minute Phil & Ned where a big chunk is with the band before going into a great Eyes of the World into Wharf Rat... (44 minutes of Eyes and Wharf Rat) .. 108 minutes of jazzy, jammed pure 74 bliss. bob t

9/11/74

That long jammy section with Ned is niiiice. I wasn't even aware of it before. Good call BobT and Daverock.

Missing These Picks..

and who could ask for more than another 1974.

I am not listening to the composites of these again though.. I want to rebuild the complete shows.

1974

some of my favorite releases back in the day were the 1974 multi-show highlight releases, and of course same goes for DiP 4 Fillmore East. Still find them solid and very enjoyable. however - i definitely would like to see full show releases of those shows barring any significant reel issues.

Bluecrow Hat Trick - continuous deep listen to all three discs in a single release. much as I can ask for nowadays.

prayers to fire affected brothers and sisters out in California, Oregon, & Washington - heartbreaking

American Reality

Loading up the phone with the Dead, putting all of 1972 on now.

Do some rain dances & send some good vibes towards the west coast.

We need all the help we can get.

Be Well All

Any one up for some William and Mary.... 9/11/73

Dark Star>Morning Dew included!!! I finished the last Alexandra Palace show (9/11/74), favorite of the 3 shows. I know this September 73 tour isn't everyone's favorite because of the horns, but I like them... Have a great weekend. Bob t

Mickey Hart 77th birthday

Always enjoyed his work, in and out of the Grateful Dead, all around, the faster we go the rounder we get. Rolling Thunder, Diga Rhythm Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Dead and Company. Prolific musician and workingman.
Excited about upgraded Betty Cantor recording of 2/18/71. Also when American Beauty was released my old friend Jimi tripped out on the lettering on the cover. Was the first person I remember to see “American Reality”. More than we ever dreamed it would become , reality.

9/11/73

Never heard this one. I will check it out Bob t. Thanks.

By The Way

Where in the hell is Bolo? It has been a long time.

And Otis?

GOGD, did you find a complete listing of the 375 reels from ABCD?

9/11/73

To my ears, perhaps the best of the fall '73 mini tour with horns. Definitely worth a listen. Might not be the most popular release if it were to ever see the light of day, but well worth the listen. I am right there with BobT, an enjoyable and noteworthy show from an enjoyable and noteworthy tour.

I'm paying the 3 dollars and coming back for the next night!!

To quote Phil and the end of Sugar Magnolia, from the 9/11/73 show..Morning everyone, I'm going to listen to 9/12/73 William and Mary... Bob t

3 Dollars

Grap me a ticket too Bob.. I'll pick you up in a couple hours.

I’ll throw one out

9-12-91
Anniversary yesterday

9/12/91

PITB > Terrapin > PITB sandwich
I'm in!

Funny, I was just listening to So Many Roads comp disc 1 as I hadn't heard it in forever and was putting all GD releases on my phone in case we had to split.

BTW anybody got the 9/26/90 GD rehearsals that D Gans put on the Best of the GD Hour sampler CD?
Jam Out of Terrapin > PITB
I'd like to hear that there stuff, got the Hornsby stuff from 9/28 but never heard the above.

DV: No ABCD list as far as I can tell, but there's a nice list of Betty Boards in one of the Taper's Compendiums, I'll have to look for it when I have a minute.

Alright, Be Well All.
And that TLMD outtake on So Many Roads is worth visiting the next time you get a minute.
Sublime stuff.

I'm In

Giving them a try.. thanks cone kid.

9/12/91 I'm in

just finishing up concert where Phil says "this is the quiet part folks".... bob t

I’m a big fan of Fall ‘91

In fact, I like the whole Hornsby era.

But a Fall ‘91 Box would be cool.
Oakland?
MSG?
Boston?

Which to choose?
May have to draw straws.

Keeping with the 90’s theme

Now spinning a Vguy show, 5-31-92 Sam Boyd

9/12/91

I will check it out. A little MSG. Thanks Conekid. Yes, 91 certainly shines. A lot of great shows.

Oh and it is a Pearson Healy recording, even better.

Thanks for looking into that GOGD. Hope everything goes okay for you out there.

Stay well folks.

91

Agree, most of 91 decently recorded for the most part. Oft maligned, but not deservedly so. Bruce brought a lot of energy and in some ways brought Garcia back to life.

Keeping the 90’s alive

Since the CD-R case in my living room containing 90’s shows I burned more than 10 years ago is open, I tossed in 3-30-94.
The ScarletFirePlayingDarkStar is awesome and worthy of official release.

DHB Friendly Two Day Bickershaw?

Something different and something good. Since it's such a long show, two discs a day should suffice.

Thoughts?

Jim 5/7/72

Jim, I would be in on that but I don't have this show.

Still working my way through 9/12/91. Great show, great recording.

I'm gonna throw in a wild card....

....Mickey Harts Mystery Box.

5/7/72

I don't know what you are doing out there but is smells rotten! Great show Jim, good call. Thanks Man!

Happy Anniversary 9/16/72 Boston Music Hall

How I wish more than 8 songs existed on SB..... At least there is a Playin, Morning Dew, Dark>Star into Brokedown Palace, NFA>GDTRFB>NFA... bob t

Today's Pick

Decided to go with 3/24/73, Dave's Picks #32 for today. Of course it is 73.

Are we something like a month away from #36? My god, time is moving fast this year and very slow.

9/16/72

I might have to hit this one tonight.. as always, thanks Bob.

Partial or not.. looks hot.

9/16/72

Nice pick. I'm not too familiar with this show. Well, it seems a couple folks on the archive claim this Dark Star is one of the greatest of all time. You never really know, do you?! I'm listening to a matrix now. The live music shutdown has given me a new appreciation for audience tapes.

GSTEP....

...."Greatest Dark Star Ever Played."
I have no idea. Most are above average. So there you go.

9/16/72

Big Fan of this show!

IMO top 5 PITB as well as Dark Star.
Well worth the Trip.

This was my goto Bike Ride show for awhile, worked every time!
It's a traveler, and it'll take you places.

Def one of my favorite 1972 shows.

GOGD

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Were losing a bit of steam here.

There Ain't No Place I'd Rather Be

Won't You Carry Meeeeeeee!

Couldn't resist.

Thanks DV, been glancing in, but there's been just a few distractions. (insert eyeroll, face palm, the scream etc)

Meant to praise 9/16/72 yesterday, (nice work Bob T!)
Definitely check out the partial SBD portion, it's one of my personal favorites for sure.

If anybody has the FLAC files of the SBD easily accessible and wants me to patch that transition between Dark Star & Brokedown send em over, I've wanted to do that for awhile, but only have the Mp3 files.

Alright, be well all, and keep it goin', this is a fun little place to visit :)

Dave's 32

Finished my third or fourth listen of this gem. I love how some releases seem to get better with each listen and this one fits that bill. The whole show rocks, so many highlights. As others have mentioned Disc 3 is very special. The He's Gone-Truckin-Jam-Dark Star into the final three songs are just awesome.

Yes, #32,#33 and #34 are pretty sweet. Looking forward to what Dave has in store for #36. Okay, my money is going with 72 or April 78.

Stay well all.

36

Have to think it will be either 69, 72 or perhaps spring '78.

...what's on for today?

Dave's Picks

DV - Yeah, as far as GD releases, we're in the golden age!

FWIW I still think we'll see a Pigpen Era release for DaP V36 circa '68-'70. Most likely '69.

Alright, I know the following for certain:
I'm jonesing to find out if I'm right or wrong :)

Announced in October right? Any theories on the date of the announcement ;)

10/17/82 possibly?

Hi Ya Jim!

Anybody wanna check out the new eBay Audience source of 10/17/82 that just got posted on archive?
https://archive.org/details/gd1982-10-17.150574.eBay.miller.flac2496

I wanna check it out at some point.

Just an idea since you were asking for a pick.

I was going to recommend Vegas 5.30.92 for today....

....but 10.17.82 works. It's Santa Fe!!. Strange show that was just a one off apparently. No tour to support it. Eleven song first set! Let's goooooo!!

82 or 92

VGUY - Either is cool w me!

I don't think I listened to the Pearson Upgrade of 5/30/92 either.

Too Much Dead Bros!!!

EDIT: 10/17/82 it is, look at that set list bro!
Post Space> Throwin'> GDTRFB> Wheel> Other One> Wharf Rat> Good Lovin'. Who does that?
The GD in '82 that's who!
We can do 5/30/92 tomorrow.

So Far...

Here’s what’s been released so far...

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
(First #) = Year:
(2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
(3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
(4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

80: 1 / 27 / #8
69: 2 / 25 / #10
81: 1 / 15 / #20
78: 3 / 12 / #23
72: 3 / 11 / #24
71: 3 / 9 / #26
83: 1 / 8 / #27
76: 3 / 7 / #28
70: 2 / 5 / #30
79: 1 / 4 / #31
73: 4 / 3/ #32
77: 5 / 2/ #33
74: 5 / 1 / #34
84: 1 / - / #35

80 is past due, what about Gainesville? Course that’s not happen with the fourth pick...
69 is past due! Good bet except I don’t think they’ll go for fourth pick...
81, same as above..
So that leaves 72 and 78. I’m going with 78.
Of course there never seems to be enough 77...
Some day you’d think we’d get a 91, but not fourth pick...

GOGD Announcement dates

Last year #32 was announced on 22nd October and the 2020 subscription was announced on 30th October.
My guess would be 20th October for #36.

DaP V36 Announcement Dates

CG - Damn!
That's more than a month....

This pandemic is really warping time.
I didn't realize a pandemic could be so psychedelic, but I've definitely been tripping since March.

Good Stuff and nice sleuthing. I appreciate it, even if it spiked my jones.

Jeez, lotsa drug references ;)

OB - I'ma gonna grok on that there hypiothesissss thingy there for a minute. Nice work bro.

I still call Pigpen era!

Oroborous-1980

Yes, 1980 is of course extremely underrepresented, don't get me started on that. No idea what they are doing with 1980.

I think they will give us the heads up announcement the week before the seaside chat on October 20. Release date is October 30, which usually means I should have mine by November 15.

Dave's 36

10/31/69, if not now, when.

September 72 east coast tour

Never have done this before, but on 3rd show of tour today, 9/17/72 Baltimore.... (Dicks Picks something)... started with the Boston show back on the 14th on Monday... bob t

RE: September 72 East Coast Tour

You probably already thought of this, but it seems like 10/2/72 should get included too.

I wanna do that.
Best Part: Playing In The Band on every show!!!!

Sept '72 is some epic stuff.

Said it before, but I think '72 is my fave year.

Europe box announcement got me back into collecting the Dead after like 10 year hiatus.
After Europe box was released '72 was the first year that I collected all existing shows for.

Kinda envious there Bob T, gonna have to follow your lead one these here days.
Enjoy!

I'm listening to...
A tutorial.
Knowledge is good, but envy is not.

Re: Nov 15th

...of what year? :D

Fall '72. Interesting idea.. I've done E72 in sequence a couple times. The last time I did it.. I had to break out into a different era for a palate cleanse.

Did anyone commit to something for today?

Today's Listening Choices

Jim -

VGUY and I are checking out 10/17/82 - New Miller Audience (might not be as good as the other audience.. not sure what I think yet, anyhow it just popped up)
Also mentioned 5/30/92 (possibly tomorrow though)
Bob T - Going deep with September '72 tour journey.

November what year = Doh!