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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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March 14, 2023 - 7:18pm

#1241

DeadVikes

Joined:
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78 and 88

Nice work OB.
Listened to most of 12/30/78, recording was a little rough. Nice integration of Stagger Lee, Miracle and a short but good Shakedown. St. Stephen was a little slow going. Would love to hear a polished up version of this one.
Good stuff Bluecrow, a lot of fond memories about the old days.
Wish I could make it down to Wrigley this summer to see Dead and Co, but just can't swing it. I have a couple buddies that are going to one night, maybe two, floor seats with Hotel, $2000. Not cheap to see this band.
March 14, 2023 - 12:37pm

#1242

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

On a roll

6/23/88, 12/30/78, and today 9/24/76 for the first time thanks to a kind soul who hangs here!
Good sheet Mon!

Andy’s Gang, ha, checked it…too funny. Makes sense as I’ve heard “hiya, hiya, hiya kids” before, usually by Phil, most notably at 4/7/85, just before they blew our heads off with Why Don’t We Do It In the Road, always an appropriate Easter Sunday opener; )
March 13, 2023 - 3:42pm

#1243

bluecrow

Joined:
September 21, 2015

more ramblings

Its funny that Dave served up Alpine selections from 3 different years in Tapers Section. Hmmm. I need to check out 6/19/88 again - I listened to some of it not too terribly long ago, last couple of years maybe. First Foolish Heart - a song I treasure now but wasn't synched up with it at first. C-Kid and Oro glad you guys got in a listen to 6/23. Yeah - Believe it or Not was a powerful song - wonder why Jerry didn't run with it. 6/23 has some super powerful memories for me - a show that has its own place in my brain compared to other memorable shows I attended. More like a dream than "real life". I have this crystalline memory of the kids hopping on stage during Dew - i was hyperfocused and it was crazy cool.

My youngest brother out of the blue texted me on Saturday night with a photo of musicians on stage and the news that he and a couple of long time DH friends (2 brothers) were at a Phil and Friends show at the Salt Shed in Chicago. "Damn, you lucky dogs!" Salt Shed is a new venue, converted Morton Salt Factory - my brother really liked it. Very cool Morton Salt themed poster for the show. Warren Haynes was the TBA special guest. I just found out over at Steve Hoffman that Warren played the Pretzel guitar that Jerry gifted to Sam Cutler after Europe '72. I'm like what? Texted my brother and he goes I didn't know it had a name but I thought it looked like a pretzel!! he played it like 80% of the time, switched it out for She Said and a couple+ other songs. Just now my brother sent me a sweet photo he took of Warren playing Pretzel - wish to heck I could postituphere.

My brother was with me for Alpine in '82, '85, and '87 (he was all of 12 years old in '82 I think.) I've known one of the 2 friends/brothers since the Alpine days also. The younger one was part of the crew who saved my a** from heat stroke Day 2 in 1988. And it was their tickets that had my brother and I with them 16 row center for 7/9/95. Ran into the younger one again with others from that crowd 1st show of the Dead with Joan Osbourne at Red Rocks 2005 and I ended up hanging with them and did we have a gas.

Was just listening to 2015 bonus disc that came with Dave's 14 ('72 Academy of Music run). I think that's Phil in the beginning saying - "Pluck your magic twanger Jerry!" Not sure if it got discussed here ages ago but that's from a 1950s tv show called Andy's Gang. There was a character, Froggy the Gremlin, and Andy would call him out of his hidiing place with that phrase and Froggy would pop out and go "hiya hiya hiya kids" (or something like that.) Watched a little just now on the utubes. Weird stuff like most any early kids show. My apologies if I'm rehashing old news. Anyhow fun bonus disc - band and crowd sound fired up for some magic twanger music on 3/27!

12/30/78 - listened to this late last year and came very close to suggesting it as a POTD and then again just recently when DV said he had '78 on the brain. Same league as the next night, though unfortunately a few tape issues with circulating sources. Very enjoyable.

ONWARD
March 13, 2023 - 7:48am

#1244

Oroborous

Joined:
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12/30/78

Don’t think we’ve hit this one?
I know I’ve never heard it anyway…

Nice write up BC! And thanks to “Mr Helpful” JS!
It totally makes sense that the 23rd would seem like dessert after five days of brutal conditions and some unfortunate stumbles etc. Definitely a solid show with several highlights, but that Believe it or Not was the cream friche for this Randy! Man it’s a shame they didn’t do this song more/longer!
Glad we checked this out, need to hit more 88!
March 13, 2023 - 7:47am

#1245

1stshow70878

Joined:
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3 More Alpine Valley Shows

In Taper's this week.
1985, 1988, 1989.
Deadeasy says one is listed with the wrong date.
Only off by a couple days.
Hope they are ones you guys got to see.
Cheers
March 12, 2023 - 4:06pm

#1246

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Alpine 88

Listened to:
6-19 UM.151602
Not terrible, not spectacular. Jerry forgot the words to Knockin’, Brent stepped in.
I liked Drums/Space. Good sounding UM.

6-23 UM.142398
Good sounding UM too. Source says UM->DAT.
Got distracted during Dew and had to restart. I can see minds blown then. Blackbird was a nice fit.

I also have:
6-20 UM.151614

6-22 set 2 119780.sbd.miller.
Will need to go get the whole show.

100 degrees is rough. Maybe Jerry was getting close to heat stroke.
March 12, 2023 - 10:32am

#1247

bluecrow

Joined:
September 21, 2015

Alpine '88 etc

DV - JeffSmith's post below will get you to my old scribblings, take a closer look.

I camped both '87 and '88. Minimal gear. Lawn tickets '80, '82, '85. Had mail order pavilion tickets '87 but seats for first 2 nights were worthless, way down low and literally on the outside, no sight line, poor sound, so we were up on the lawn, which was just perfectly fine. Never knew anybody who drew any of the true front of stage seats. Seats I had last night '88 were best by far, aisle slightly to outside of Jerry side 5 or 6 rows up.

There are relatively new ultramix uploads for Alpine '88. Healy was definitely f*cking with the sound every night at Alpine, panning the board feed from side to side, wasn't just 6/23. sbds still conspicuously missing for Met, Buckeye, and Pittsburgh from what I see on relisten. Like I said, really enjoyed going back to 6/20 for what was essentially the first time in all these years.
March 12, 2023 - 9:57am

#1248

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Nice story Bluecrow

I’ll have to check if I have the newest versions of those shows, if not I’ll get them.

My only time to Alpine was my second show, 7-17-89. Was on the lawn. Very cool place. Camped at Bong.

Tinley Park the next year wasn’t as cool. And instead of clogging up a two-lane road in a small town the Deadheads brought I-80 to a complete stop the first day (don’t know about the following days because we came in the back way those days). The small parking lots of Tinley Park filled up early and since the venue was close to the highway people double parked on each side of the highway and walked to the venue. I know someone who did it and he said his car was still there after the show, didn’t get towed. We were on an overpass looking down at the mayhem on the highway. We got to the venue and a cop told us to pull onto the side of the road and park there.
We camped at Kankakee State Park and drove up I-55, then came in the back way. And came early so we could get in the lot before it filled up.

Made it to all 9 Soldier Field shows, on the floor for 7, with rows 13 and 25 the closest, both Jerry side.
I liked Soldier Field because it could absorb the masses, that parking lot was huge, with a big Shakedown Street.
Was back in 2015 for all 3 FTW shows and that place had really changed. The parking lot was gone and a space ship had landed on top of the coliseum.

Been working my way through a lot of torrent files lately:
GD 1982-03-14 139382.sbd.miller.chastain.waddell (playing now)
GD 1976-07-18 pre-FM.remaster.miller (cool Let It Grow)
GD 1982-03-13 set 2 112858.sbd.digitalrbb.miller
GD 1972-03-22 136682.sbd.sirmick
GD 1972-03-21 136670.sbd.sirmick
GD 1982-04-17 set 2 141100.sbd.dalton.miller.clugston
GD 1972-07-22 updated.betty.pcm.composite.dalton.miller.clugston (rough in spots, I can see why only a portion of the show was released)
GD 1976-07-12 150658.cm.cass.miller
GD 1973-02-22 Fries remaster of 111169
GD 1973-02-09 Fries remaster of 150166 (distortion on Casey Jones)

I’ll get Alpine 88 onto my music player soon.
March 12, 2023 - 8:47am

#1249

DeadVikes

Joined:
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1988

Hey Bluecrow, in fours years of going to see the Dead at Alpine 86-89, I never made it into the Pavilion. We were always in the lawn, which was still a great unbelievable time. Yes. OB, the scene definitely changed after In the Dark, and the fact we could stay on the grounds the whole time. Love Wisconsin. As other spots across the country it was huge party scene.

Yes, the heat was something else. And the shows were so much fun. A true experience. Where did you stay Bluecrow?

Where can we find your write up from Gans BC?

I think there are some newer transfers of these shows from Miller via Pearson.

I will have to check these out at some point.

Oh and enjoyed the 3/30/88 OB, recording was good, always enjoy a Hey Pocky Way, West LA Fadeaway, Big Railroad Blues, Nice second set, from the Shakedown opener to the BMR. Great show. Thanks.
March 11, 2023 - 4:11pm

#1250

bluecrow

Joined:
September 21, 2015

A gift lost will soon be recovered

Words to take to heart.

Thank you for tracking that down Jeff! A few years before I became Bluecrow here.

Who knows where the time goes.

John Perry Barlow

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

1974 Chop Shop

I am at an impasse with some of the partially released 74 shows.. I think I need to reconstruct the full shows using pieces of the official releases and supplement any missing parts from the best available source.

What were they thinking???

Edit: David Lemieux as a kid.. "Look at all these reels.. I bet we can releases dozens and dozens of songs...."

Chop job redemption

Plangentize and Normanize those ‘74 reels, and Box ‘em up, PNW style.

9/10/74 Alexandra Palace finished

Already on the end of set one of 9/11/74, Playing just started...23 minutes to end the first set. Then a 41minute Phil & Ned where a big chunk is with the band before going into a great Eyes of the World into Wharf Rat... (44 minutes of Eyes and Wharf Rat) .. 108 minutes of jazzy, jammed pure 74 bliss. bob t

9/11/74

That long jammy section with Ned is niiiice. I wasn't even aware of it before. Good call BobT and Daverock.

Missing These Picks..

and who could ask for more than another 1974.

I am not listening to the composites of these again though.. I want to rebuild the complete shows.

1974

some of my favorite releases back in the day were the 1974 multi-show highlight releases, and of course same goes for DiP 4 Fillmore East. Still find them solid and very enjoyable. however - i definitely would like to see full show releases of those shows barring any significant reel issues.

Bluecrow Hat Trick - continuous deep listen to all three discs in a single release. much as I can ask for nowadays.

prayers to fire affected brothers and sisters out in California, Oregon, & Washington - heartbreaking

American Reality

Loading up the phone with the Dead, putting all of 1972 on now.

Do some rain dances & send some good vibes towards the west coast.

We need all the help we can get.

Be Well All

Any one up for some William and Mary.... 9/11/73

Dark Star>Morning Dew included!!! I finished the last Alexandra Palace show (9/11/74), favorite of the 3 shows. I know this September 73 tour isn't everyone's favorite because of the horns, but I like them... Have a great weekend. Bob t

Mickey Hart 77th birthday

Always enjoyed his work, in and out of the Grateful Dead, all around, the faster we go the rounder we get. Rolling Thunder, Diga Rhythm Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Dead and Company. Prolific musician and workingman.
Excited about upgraded Betty Cantor recording of 2/18/71. Also when American Beauty was released my old friend Jimi tripped out on the lettering on the cover. Was the first person I remember to see “American Reality”. More than we ever dreamed it would become , reality.

9/11/73

Never heard this one. I will check it out Bob t. Thanks.

By The Way

Where in the hell is Bolo? It has been a long time.

And Otis?

GOGD, did you find a complete listing of the 375 reels from ABCD?

9/11/73

To my ears, perhaps the best of the fall '73 mini tour with horns. Definitely worth a listen. Might not be the most popular release if it were to ever see the light of day, but well worth the listen. I am right there with BobT, an enjoyable and noteworthy show from an enjoyable and noteworthy tour.

I'm paying the 3 dollars and coming back for the next night!!

To quote Phil and the end of Sugar Magnolia, from the 9/11/73 show..Morning everyone, I'm going to listen to 9/12/73 William and Mary... Bob t

3 Dollars

Grap me a ticket too Bob.. I'll pick you up in a couple hours.

I’ll throw one out

9-12-91
Anniversary yesterday

9/12/91

PITB > Terrapin > PITB sandwich
I'm in!

Funny, I was just listening to So Many Roads comp disc 1 as I hadn't heard it in forever and was putting all GD releases on my phone in case we had to split.

BTW anybody got the 9/26/90 GD rehearsals that D Gans put on the Best of the GD Hour sampler CD?
Jam Out of Terrapin > PITB
I'd like to hear that there stuff, got the Hornsby stuff from 9/28 but never heard the above.

DV: No ABCD list as far as I can tell, but there's a nice list of Betty Boards in one of the Taper's Compendiums, I'll have to look for it when I have a minute.

Alright, Be Well All.
And that TLMD outtake on So Many Roads is worth visiting the next time you get a minute.
Sublime stuff.

I'm In

Giving them a try.. thanks cone kid.

9/12/91 I'm in

just finishing up concert where Phil says "this is the quiet part folks".... bob t

I’m a big fan of Fall ‘91

In fact, I like the whole Hornsby era.

But a Fall ‘91 Box would be cool.
Oakland?
MSG?
Boston?

Which to choose?
May have to draw straws.

Keeping with the 90’s theme

Now spinning a Vguy show, 5-31-92 Sam Boyd

9/12/91

I will check it out. A little MSG. Thanks Conekid. Yes, 91 certainly shines. A lot of great shows.

Oh and it is a Pearson Healy recording, even better.

Thanks for looking into that GOGD. Hope everything goes okay for you out there.

Stay well folks.

91

Agree, most of 91 decently recorded for the most part. Oft maligned, but not deservedly so. Bruce brought a lot of energy and in some ways brought Garcia back to life.

Keeping the 90’s alive

Since the CD-R case in my living room containing 90’s shows I burned more than 10 years ago is open, I tossed in 3-30-94.
The ScarletFirePlayingDarkStar is awesome and worthy of official release.

DHB Friendly Two Day Bickershaw?

Something different and something good. Since it's such a long show, two discs a day should suffice.

Thoughts?

Jim 5/7/72

Jim, I would be in on that but I don't have this show.

Still working my way through 9/12/91. Great show, great recording.

I'm gonna throw in a wild card....

....Mickey Harts Mystery Box.

5/7/72

I don't know what you are doing out there but is smells rotten! Great show Jim, good call. Thanks Man!

Happy Anniversary 9/16/72 Boston Music Hall

How I wish more than 8 songs existed on SB..... At least there is a Playin, Morning Dew, Dark>Star into Brokedown Palace, NFA>GDTRFB>NFA... bob t

Today's Pick

Decided to go with 3/24/73, Dave's Picks #32 for today. Of course it is 73.

Are we something like a month away from #36? My god, time is moving fast this year and very slow.

9/16/72

I might have to hit this one tonight.. as always, thanks Bob.

Partial or not.. looks hot.

9/16/72

Nice pick. I'm not too familiar with this show. Well, it seems a couple folks on the archive claim this Dark Star is one of the greatest of all time. You never really know, do you?! I'm listening to a matrix now. The live music shutdown has given me a new appreciation for audience tapes.

GSTEP....

...."Greatest Dark Star Ever Played."
I have no idea. Most are above average. So there you go.

9/16/72

Big Fan of this show!

IMO top 5 PITB as well as Dark Star.
Well worth the Trip.

This was my goto Bike Ride show for awhile, worked every time!
It's a traveler, and it'll take you places.

Def one of my favorite 1972 shows.

GOGD

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Were losing a bit of steam here.

There Ain't No Place I'd Rather Be

Won't You Carry Meeeeeeee!

Couldn't resist.

Thanks DV, been glancing in, but there's been just a few distractions. (insert eyeroll, face palm, the scream etc)

Meant to praise 9/16/72 yesterday, (nice work Bob T!)
Definitely check out the partial SBD portion, it's one of my personal favorites for sure.

If anybody has the FLAC files of the SBD easily accessible and wants me to patch that transition between Dark Star & Brokedown send em over, I've wanted to do that for awhile, but only have the Mp3 files.

Alright, be well all, and keep it goin', this is a fun little place to visit :)

Dave's 32

Finished my third or fourth listen of this gem. I love how some releases seem to get better with each listen and this one fits that bill. The whole show rocks, so many highlights. As others have mentioned Disc 3 is very special. The He's Gone-Truckin-Jam-Dark Star into the final three songs are just awesome.

Yes, #32,#33 and #34 are pretty sweet. Looking forward to what Dave has in store for #36. Okay, my money is going with 72 or April 78.

Stay well all.

36

Have to think it will be either 69, 72 or perhaps spring '78.

...what's on for today?

Dave's Picks

DV - Yeah, as far as GD releases, we're in the golden age!

FWIW I still think we'll see a Pigpen Era release for DaP V36 circa '68-'70. Most likely '69.

Alright, I know the following for certain:
I'm jonesing to find out if I'm right or wrong :)

Announced in October right? Any theories on the date of the announcement ;)

10/17/82 possibly?

Hi Ya Jim!

Anybody wanna check out the new eBay Audience source of 10/17/82 that just got posted on archive?
https://archive.org/details/gd1982-10-17.150574.eBay.miller.flac2496

I wanna check it out at some point.

Just an idea since you were asking for a pick.

I was going to recommend Vegas 5.30.92 for today....

....but 10.17.82 works. It's Santa Fe!!. Strange show that was just a one off apparently. No tour to support it. Eleven song first set! Let's goooooo!!

82 or 92

VGUY - Either is cool w me!

I don't think I listened to the Pearson Upgrade of 5/30/92 either.

Too Much Dead Bros!!!

EDIT: 10/17/82 it is, look at that set list bro!
Post Space> Throwin'> GDTRFB> Wheel> Other One> Wharf Rat> Good Lovin'. Who does that?
The GD in '82 that's who!
We can do 5/30/92 tomorrow.

So Far...

Here’s what’s been released so far...

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
(First #) = Year:
(2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
(3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
(4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

80: 1 / 27 / #8
69: 2 / 25 / #10
81: 1 / 15 / #20
78: 3 / 12 / #23
72: 3 / 11 / #24
71: 3 / 9 / #26
83: 1 / 8 / #27
76: 3 / 7 / #28
70: 2 / 5 / #30
79: 1 / 4 / #31
73: 4 / 3/ #32
77: 5 / 2/ #33
74: 5 / 1 / #34
84: 1 / - / #35

80 is past due, what about Gainesville? Course that’s not happen with the fourth pick...
69 is past due! Good bet except I don’t think they’ll go for fourth pick...
81, same as above..
So that leaves 72 and 78. I’m going with 78.
Of course there never seems to be enough 77...
Some day you’d think we’d get a 91, but not fourth pick...

GOGD Announcement dates

Last year #32 was announced on 22nd October and the 2020 subscription was announced on 30th October.
My guess would be 20th October for #36.

DaP V36 Announcement Dates

CG - Damn!
That's more than a month....

This pandemic is really warping time.
I didn't realize a pandemic could be so psychedelic, but I've definitely been tripping since March.

Good Stuff and nice sleuthing. I appreciate it, even if it spiked my jones.

Jeez, lotsa drug references ;)

OB - I'ma gonna grok on that there hypiothesissss thingy there for a minute. Nice work bro.

I still call Pigpen era!

Oroborous-1980

Yes, 1980 is of course extremely underrepresented, don't get me started on that. No idea what they are doing with 1980.

I think they will give us the heads up announcement the week before the seaside chat on October 20. Release date is October 30, which usually means I should have mine by November 15.

Dave's 36

10/31/69, if not now, when.

September 72 east coast tour

Never have done this before, but on 3rd show of tour today, 9/17/72 Baltimore.... (Dicks Picks something)... started with the Boston show back on the 14th on Monday... bob t

RE: September 72 East Coast Tour

You probably already thought of this, but it seems like 10/2/72 should get included too.

I wanna do that.
Best Part: Playing In The Band on every show!!!!

Sept '72 is some epic stuff.

Said it before, but I think '72 is my fave year.

Europe box announcement got me back into collecting the Dead after like 10 year hiatus.
After Europe box was released '72 was the first year that I collected all existing shows for.

Kinda envious there Bob T, gonna have to follow your lead one these here days.
Enjoy!

I'm listening to...
A tutorial.
Knowledge is good, but envy is not.

Re: Nov 15th

...of what year? :D

Fall '72. Interesting idea.. I've done E72 in sequence a couple times. The last time I did it.. I had to break out into a different era for a palate cleanse.

Did anyone commit to something for today?

Today's Listening Choices

Jim -

VGUY and I are checking out 10/17/82 - New Miller Audience (might not be as good as the other audience.. not sure what I think yet, anyhow it just popped up)
Also mentioned 5/30/92 (possibly tomorrow though)
Bob T - Going deep with September '72 tour journey.

November what year = Doh!