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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 17, 2020 - 10:35pm

#6781

DeadVikes

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Good to See you Vguy

Good to see you Vguy.
Where the hell is Bob t? I alway get nervous when the regulars are missing, like FourWinds.

Otis! Wait till Otis sees us, he loves us!
June 17, 2020 - 7:54pm

#6782

Vguy72

Joined:
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I'm still on 10.10.82....

....here's a little secret. Its a keeper.
Dicks 33 is very, very, veeeery high on my list. I know it well. It blows sweet nothings in my ears every three months or so.
June 17, 2020 - 7:08pm

#6783

DeadVikes

Joined:
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6/17/90

This is a solid show Oroborous! Might be better than 6/16/90?? Well maybe not, but damn good. Highlights for me Shakedown Street, Birdsong, Eyes and Stella Blue are really good. Your favorite finish, Throwing Stones, Lovelight. Great encore with the Weight.
Thanks Man!

Relisten is working great for me, appreciate the tip. Yes, I am late to the party.

On to 10/9/76 tomorrow, good old Dick's #33.

Be well folks!
June 17, 2020 - 1:16pm

#6784

Oroborous

Joined:
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Misty Midi madness, The Heep, and more 85

Foggy tales from the Heep!
Wow, digging the 17th. I only really remember any show specifics from the 16th, mostly because of the unusual set list. Of course I’ve watched the video numerous times so I’m sure that plays into it...both great shows, actually the 16th lost just a touch of its status for me this time? Not quite as razor sharp as I recall, but that’s nit picking compared to spring tour? Fun set list though, and the China Cat starts to really soar, then they sort a miss a gear on the Segway, but it’s subtle. We Can Run was ruff, but after that the rest is good, and of course the whole Terrapin through the weird fest is awesome, that’s the shizzle this boy is looking for. Yeah, some good 90s electronic mind eraser! Nice ease back to reality and scoop up your fragile ego off the lawn with China Doll, and dance her home with the Mags. Always dig a sweet Baby Blue.
Definitely picked a good time to come outta electric “retirement”!
17th is pretty solid all around, Brent slips a tad during Far From Me but they pull it out ok, Picasso Moon is the only thing I recall sounding like it wasn’t happening, and I was looking forward to more jam/weirdness, especially when they broke out the PITB where they did. That’s often a good launch pad for deep space 9, but not much of a jam comparatively, and then into an Eyes of all things? Good weirdness outta D/S, with the rest sorta status quo for the times.
All in all perhaps best trip ever. 85 was more nuts, stay up for days and rage etc, this trip I was like 28, with new 20 year old “Loose Lucy” “GF” , doing electric things not done in years, first time to SF/promised land, Oh and 2 awesome Warfield JGB shows in the middle of the six Dead shows to boot! Of course I got stuck paying for it for a while, long story, but it was totally worth it all. So summer 85 was a gas, but June 90 was a dream, a summer loving in the spring, fall, and winter, in the ocean, camping at half moon bay, hotels, pools, camping at Santa Cruz, and perhaps best of all, at dawn still feeling it as the sun came up and we were camped out in a Red Wood Forest State Park of some kind up by La Honda, whoa, that was some cool shit. Like having to drive AROUND huge trees where the road was literally built to go around rather than cut them down, so cool. So, we get there in the middle of the night, and you can tell the trees are there, but man at dawn when you could start to see to the tops.......still blows me away, THAT, I’ll always remember!
Perhaps best sunrise ever! So yeah, let’s just say we didn’t just get some,...well, let’s just say old Pig woulda been proud!
Ok, 2 quick related stories then I promise I’ll not pontificate on these ever again.
So back to, think last night of Cal Ex, as we’re sharing a room with like 4 or 5 other dudes, the happy rolling couple is feeling like folks often do under the conditions, but not possessing the modesty or lack of decorum to just get animal in the crowded, shared room, so eventually after much rolling and tumblin’ on the bed Etc, and after already getting kicked outta the pool several times over the 3 days, the bathroom seems like it’s going to have to work, remember, “the situation is the boss”, so that’s what happens...so we’re having a grand ole time and being relatively stealth....I think?, and everything’s all hunky dory until the sink counter that she’s perched on comes off the wall and crashes to the floor!!....Oooppss!
Well so much for stealth and now everyone’s freaked out about the damage so of course I do what anyone who’s ever been involved with R&R on the road, especially if ever for a living, and I get up and get all cleaned up and make sure I get to the office early while all the upstanding folks and traveling families are checking out etc, and so I proceed to complain in a loud enough voice to draw interest, but not loud enough to raise concern (object is to use the natives for benefit, power in numbers etc, not to scare, never want to scare the natives, unless on purpose of course), so your boy proceeds to ask for the manager and register a complaint about “what kind of unsafe place is this? etc, with both he and I realizing that all the guests in the looby are now totally listening, so I proceed to politely but firmly replay how just as I was leaning over to shave that one little tuff spot, and while leaning on said counter to do so, it suddenly, and terrifyingly jumps from the wall, but how luckily, tragedy was narrowly averted, only by my quick cat like reflexes, and how I only ended up with this little abrasion on my neck! (which of course conveniently for the situation happened during the previous evenings extra curricular frolicking in question.)
Yes sir HST and Cassidy both woulda been proud, especially when the manager apologized profusely and gave us a nice discount off the tab! Of course you could tell he was kinda wondering and started to mumble something about how could that actually happen etc, but we didn’t stick around for all that, I immediately turned, found the cutest little tyke and proceeded to lay on the “boy you folks sure must be proud“, and “what a well behaved cute little guy” etc as we’re literally backing out the door.....give me three steps mister for sure! Tru dat, all of it, I don’t care if you believe me or not as:
1) I was there, and
2) I have several witnesses!
I believe the statue of limitations on hotel rooms is up after 30 years?
The other story is that last early morning red wood sunshine daydream. So as we’re in the woods and thinking we’re all alone, so in other words we’re back at it again...hey, sun dresses and Guatemalan shorts come off pretty easy, so just as the suns coming up and we’re still riding the last electric waves, and the trees are magnificent, and the birds are starting to chirp, and the river is signing, and we’re actually living a real life sun shine daydream........along comes a park ranger up from the river pumping station! Oooopppss, hee-hee, well the poor gal seemed more embarrassed by it then we were, and of course as we’re literally rolling down the hill like a couple of squirrels in heat as I look over and wave and give er the biggest morning greeting and smile and act like absolutely nothing is wrong, LOL. Well she couldn’t get outta there fast enough, and hell, it’s California in a big state park, so I’m guessing it wasn’t the first or last time she saw some tweaked out hippies getting weird and naked! 😎
Ok, I’ve rambled on enough, but GOGD did ask for it, or at least that’s my story and I’m sticking to it! Lol
Thanks for indulging my little trip down memory lane, hopefully y’all had some fun and heard some good tunes you might not of ever heard otherwise? These have always seemed to fall between the 90 spring, summer tour cracks....
Now Onward, through the fog! Forward, never straight...mañana sounds like we’re going Dicks 33, Awesome, see ya then!

SPRING 85: used to know more but haven’t gone there in forever...know 4/7/85, my favorite Easter Sunday ever, is well worth a listen. Prime 85, yes Jer has a “tour cold” by then, but so what, sometimes I thing it adds to the affect. Dirty but dangerous!
Wilfred: yes the weirdness! It didn’t start up in 85, but they did bring it back in a big way..
June 17, 2020 - 8:52am

#6785

Lovemygirl

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*RE/ listening to

... I’m listening to Grateful Dead performance
on August 3rd, 1982 in Kansas City, “Starlight Theater”
** Complete Set-list, in my opinion it has a primo Setlist to boot!

Set 1:
d1t01 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo ->
d1t02 - Franklin's Tower ->
d1t03 - New Minglewood Blues
d1t04 - Peggy-O
d1t05 - El Paso ->
d1t06 - Cumberland Blues
d1t07 - Althea
d1t08 - Cassidy
d1t09 - Big Railroad Blues ->
d1t10 - Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
d1t11 - Might As Well

Set 2:
d2t01 - Shakedown Street ->
d2t02 - Samson And Delilah
d2t03 - To Lay Me Down
d3t01 - Let It Grow ->
d3t02 - Drums ->
d3t03 - Space ->
d3t04 - He's Gone ->
d3t05 - The Other One ->
d3t06 - Stella Blue ->
d3t07 - Sugar Magnolia

Encore:
Casey Jones

*** https://archive.org/details/gd1982-08-03.sbd.miller.77196.sbeok.flac16/…
Excellent performances of
‘Althea’
‘Cassidy’
‘The Women are Smarter’
‘To Lay Me Down’
‘Let It Grow’
‘He’s Gone’
‘That’s it For The Other One’
‘Stella Blue’ & more!
If you haven’t heard this Show I would give it a spin! It’s filled with surprises! 💀🌹
June 17, 2020 - 7:07am

#6786

The Good Ole G…

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Sick Rooster

Don't usually say much about that song, but this is a Sick Rooster band sounds hot tonight :)

DiP V33 would be fun for sure, had to refresh the memory.. October '76 would be a good path to tread.

Who am I kiddin' it all sounds good, we were gonna listen to Boreal Ridge just to see how bad it was.
June 17, 2020 - 7:02am

#6787

DeadVikes

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6/17/90

Sounds good Oroborous. Thanks for the picks.

Dick's 33 sounds great to me for tomorrow and Friday. Love these two shows and the sound quality is A+!
June 17, 2020 - 6:53am

#6788

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
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6/17/90

I gotta finish the Shoreline '90 Trip too... made it this far and the Midi Madness has got a hold of me.

JimInMidi ;)

Definitely some Major Midi in VFTV III that Jam after Terrapin was way cool, I'm not sure I ever made it through that whole DVD before. Made me think it would've been cool if they alternated the Space > Drums order more often.

OROBOROUS what were you thinking that night, can't remember if you talked about that already. I woulda been trippin' out on that, always like when you don't know where it will go. Way cool!

Shoreline Day 3 starting out with some nice & funky Shakedown St.

I like the sound of some late '71 DaPs Volume 22 Bonus Disc is looking especially good!

EDIT: Yeah I like the '85 idea the 6/22/85 set 2 is an old Fave for Sure! Best Keep On Growing.
GRATEFULHAN there's some great stuff in Spring '85 too, wild set lists. Love 4/4/85 personal fave.
GREAT to see sooo much '85 LOVE!
June 17, 2020 - 6:47am

#6789

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Gratefulhan

Never too weird or geeky for this motley crew! Not to dissuade you, FYI, but I’ll be trying to do the 85 summer tour starting this weekend with Alpine....shall we go, you and I while we can.....
June 17, 2020 - 6:43am

#6790

Oroborous

Joined:
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5.1

Deadvikes etc., if your gear has it try Auro 2D for fake surround. Sometimes it works way better than Dolby for enhancing stereo mixes to surround; sounds more natural, and it will utilize your rear channels if you have them, Dolby often won’t..,
EDIT: as in rears, not sides or surrounds, those should be doing something with either codec.

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

1974 Chop Shop

I am at an impasse with some of the partially released 74 shows.. I think I need to reconstruct the full shows using pieces of the official releases and supplement any missing parts from the best available source.

What were they thinking???

Edit: David Lemieux as a kid.. "Look at all these reels.. I bet we can releases dozens and dozens of songs...."

Chop job redemption

Plangentize and Normanize those ‘74 reels, and Box ‘em up, PNW style.

9/10/74 Alexandra Palace finished

Already on the end of set one of 9/11/74, Playing just started...23 minutes to end the first set. Then a 41minute Phil & Ned where a big chunk is with the band before going into a great Eyes of the World into Wharf Rat... (44 minutes of Eyes and Wharf Rat) .. 108 minutes of jazzy, jammed pure 74 bliss. bob t

9/11/74

That long jammy section with Ned is niiiice. I wasn't even aware of it before. Good call BobT and Daverock.

Missing These Picks..

and who could ask for more than another 1974.

I am not listening to the composites of these again though.. I want to rebuild the complete shows.

1974

some of my favorite releases back in the day were the 1974 multi-show highlight releases, and of course same goes for DiP 4 Fillmore East. Still find them solid and very enjoyable. however - i definitely would like to see full show releases of those shows barring any significant reel issues.

Bluecrow Hat Trick - continuous deep listen to all three discs in a single release. much as I can ask for nowadays.

prayers to fire affected brothers and sisters out in California, Oregon, & Washington - heartbreaking

American Reality

Loading up the phone with the Dead, putting all of 1972 on now.

Do some rain dances & send some good vibes towards the west coast.

We need all the help we can get.

Be Well All

Any one up for some William and Mary.... 9/11/73

Dark Star>Morning Dew included!!! I finished the last Alexandra Palace show (9/11/74), favorite of the 3 shows. I know this September 73 tour isn't everyone's favorite because of the horns, but I like them... Have a great weekend. Bob t

Mickey Hart 77th birthday

Always enjoyed his work, in and out of the Grateful Dead, all around, the faster we go the rounder we get. Rolling Thunder, Diga Rhythm Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Dead and Company. Prolific musician and workingman.
Excited about upgraded Betty Cantor recording of 2/18/71. Also when American Beauty was released my old friend Jimi tripped out on the lettering on the cover. Was the first person I remember to see “American Reality”. More than we ever dreamed it would become , reality.

9/11/73

Never heard this one. I will check it out Bob t. Thanks.

By The Way

Where in the hell is Bolo? It has been a long time.

And Otis?

GOGD, did you find a complete listing of the 375 reels from ABCD?

9/11/73

To my ears, perhaps the best of the fall '73 mini tour with horns. Definitely worth a listen. Might not be the most popular release if it were to ever see the light of day, but well worth the listen. I am right there with BobT, an enjoyable and noteworthy show from an enjoyable and noteworthy tour.

I'm paying the 3 dollars and coming back for the next night!!

To quote Phil and the end of Sugar Magnolia, from the 9/11/73 show..Morning everyone, I'm going to listen to 9/12/73 William and Mary... Bob t

3 Dollars

Grap me a ticket too Bob.. I'll pick you up in a couple hours.

I’ll throw one out

9-12-91
Anniversary yesterday

9/12/91

PITB > Terrapin > PITB sandwich
I'm in!

Funny, I was just listening to So Many Roads comp disc 1 as I hadn't heard it in forever and was putting all GD releases on my phone in case we had to split.

BTW anybody got the 9/26/90 GD rehearsals that D Gans put on the Best of the GD Hour sampler CD?
Jam Out of Terrapin > PITB
I'd like to hear that there stuff, got the Hornsby stuff from 9/28 but never heard the above.

DV: No ABCD list as far as I can tell, but there's a nice list of Betty Boards in one of the Taper's Compendiums, I'll have to look for it when I have a minute.

Alright, Be Well All.
And that TLMD outtake on So Many Roads is worth visiting the next time you get a minute.
Sublime stuff.

I'm In

Giving them a try.. thanks cone kid.

9/12/91 I'm in

just finishing up concert where Phil says "this is the quiet part folks".... bob t

I’m a big fan of Fall ‘91

In fact, I like the whole Hornsby era.

But a Fall ‘91 Box would be cool.
Oakland?
MSG?
Boston?

Which to choose?
May have to draw straws.

Keeping with the 90’s theme

Now spinning a Vguy show, 5-31-92 Sam Boyd

9/12/91

I will check it out. A little MSG. Thanks Conekid. Yes, 91 certainly shines. A lot of great shows.

Oh and it is a Pearson Healy recording, even better.

Thanks for looking into that GOGD. Hope everything goes okay for you out there.

Stay well folks.

91

Agree, most of 91 decently recorded for the most part. Oft maligned, but not deservedly so. Bruce brought a lot of energy and in some ways brought Garcia back to life.

Keeping the 90’s alive

Since the CD-R case in my living room containing 90’s shows I burned more than 10 years ago is open, I tossed in 3-30-94.
The ScarletFirePlayingDarkStar is awesome and worthy of official release.

DHB Friendly Two Day Bickershaw?

Something different and something good. Since it's such a long show, two discs a day should suffice.

Thoughts?

Jim 5/7/72

Jim, I would be in on that but I don't have this show.

Still working my way through 9/12/91. Great show, great recording.

I'm gonna throw in a wild card....

....Mickey Harts Mystery Box.

5/7/72

I don't know what you are doing out there but is smells rotten! Great show Jim, good call. Thanks Man!

Happy Anniversary 9/16/72 Boston Music Hall

How I wish more than 8 songs existed on SB..... At least there is a Playin, Morning Dew, Dark>Star into Brokedown Palace, NFA>GDTRFB>NFA... bob t

Today's Pick

Decided to go with 3/24/73, Dave's Picks #32 for today. Of course it is 73.

Are we something like a month away from #36? My god, time is moving fast this year and very slow.

9/16/72

I might have to hit this one tonight.. as always, thanks Bob.

Partial or not.. looks hot.

9/16/72

Nice pick. I'm not too familiar with this show. Well, it seems a couple folks on the archive claim this Dark Star is one of the greatest of all time. You never really know, do you?! I'm listening to a matrix now. The live music shutdown has given me a new appreciation for audience tapes.

GSTEP....

...."Greatest Dark Star Ever Played."
I have no idea. Most are above average. So there you go.

9/16/72

Big Fan of this show!

IMO top 5 PITB as well as Dark Star.
Well worth the Trip.

This was my goto Bike Ride show for awhile, worked every time!
It's a traveler, and it'll take you places.

Def one of my favorite 1972 shows.

GOGD

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Were losing a bit of steam here.

There Ain't No Place I'd Rather Be

Won't You Carry Meeeeeeee!

Couldn't resist.

Thanks DV, been glancing in, but there's been just a few distractions. (insert eyeroll, face palm, the scream etc)

Meant to praise 9/16/72 yesterday, (nice work Bob T!)
Definitely check out the partial SBD portion, it's one of my personal favorites for sure.

If anybody has the FLAC files of the SBD easily accessible and wants me to patch that transition between Dark Star & Brokedown send em over, I've wanted to do that for awhile, but only have the Mp3 files.

Alright, be well all, and keep it goin', this is a fun little place to visit :)

Dave's 32

Finished my third or fourth listen of this gem. I love how some releases seem to get better with each listen and this one fits that bill. The whole show rocks, so many highlights. As others have mentioned Disc 3 is very special. The He's Gone-Truckin-Jam-Dark Star into the final three songs are just awesome.

Yes, #32,#33 and #34 are pretty sweet. Looking forward to what Dave has in store for #36. Okay, my money is going with 72 or April 78.

Stay well all.

36

Have to think it will be either 69, 72 or perhaps spring '78.

...what's on for today?

Dave's Picks

DV - Yeah, as far as GD releases, we're in the golden age!

FWIW I still think we'll see a Pigpen Era release for DaP V36 circa '68-'70. Most likely '69.

Alright, I know the following for certain:
I'm jonesing to find out if I'm right or wrong :)

Announced in October right? Any theories on the date of the announcement ;)

10/17/82 possibly?

Hi Ya Jim!

Anybody wanna check out the new eBay Audience source of 10/17/82 that just got posted on archive?
https://archive.org/details/gd1982-10-17.150574.eBay.miller.flac2496

I wanna check it out at some point.

Just an idea since you were asking for a pick.

I was going to recommend Vegas 5.30.92 for today....

....but 10.17.82 works. It's Santa Fe!!. Strange show that was just a one off apparently. No tour to support it. Eleven song first set! Let's goooooo!!

82 or 92

VGUY - Either is cool w me!

I don't think I listened to the Pearson Upgrade of 5/30/92 either.

Too Much Dead Bros!!!

EDIT: 10/17/82 it is, look at that set list bro!
Post Space> Throwin'> GDTRFB> Wheel> Other One> Wharf Rat> Good Lovin'. Who does that?
The GD in '82 that's who!
We can do 5/30/92 tomorrow.

So Far...

Here’s what’s been released so far...

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
(First #) = Year:
(2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
(3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
(4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

80: 1 / 27 / #8
69: 2 / 25 / #10
81: 1 / 15 / #20
78: 3 / 12 / #23
72: 3 / 11 / #24
71: 3 / 9 / #26
83: 1 / 8 / #27
76: 3 / 7 / #28
70: 2 / 5 / #30
79: 1 / 4 / #31
73: 4 / 3/ #32
77: 5 / 2/ #33
74: 5 / 1 / #34
84: 1 / - / #35

80 is past due, what about Gainesville? Course that’s not happen with the fourth pick...
69 is past due! Good bet except I don’t think they’ll go for fourth pick...
81, same as above..
So that leaves 72 and 78. I’m going with 78.
Of course there never seems to be enough 77...
Some day you’d think we’d get a 91, but not fourth pick...

GOGD Announcement dates

Last year #32 was announced on 22nd October and the 2020 subscription was announced on 30th October.
My guess would be 20th October for #36.

DaP V36 Announcement Dates

CG - Damn!
That's more than a month....

This pandemic is really warping time.
I didn't realize a pandemic could be so psychedelic, but I've definitely been tripping since March.

Good Stuff and nice sleuthing. I appreciate it, even if it spiked my jones.

Jeez, lotsa drug references ;)

OB - I'ma gonna grok on that there hypiothesissss thingy there for a minute. Nice work bro.

I still call Pigpen era!

Oroborous-1980

Yes, 1980 is of course extremely underrepresented, don't get me started on that. No idea what they are doing with 1980.

I think they will give us the heads up announcement the week before the seaside chat on October 20. Release date is October 30, which usually means I should have mine by November 15.

Dave's 36

10/31/69, if not now, when.

September 72 east coast tour

Never have done this before, but on 3rd show of tour today, 9/17/72 Baltimore.... (Dicks Picks something)... started with the Boston show back on the 14th on Monday... bob t

RE: September 72 East Coast Tour

You probably already thought of this, but it seems like 10/2/72 should get included too.

I wanna do that.
Best Part: Playing In The Band on every show!!!!

Sept '72 is some epic stuff.

Said it before, but I think '72 is my fave year.

Europe box announcement got me back into collecting the Dead after like 10 year hiatus.
After Europe box was released '72 was the first year that I collected all existing shows for.

Kinda envious there Bob T, gonna have to follow your lead one these here days.
Enjoy!

I'm listening to...
A tutorial.
Knowledge is good, but envy is not.

Re: Nov 15th

...of what year? :D

Fall '72. Interesting idea.. I've done E72 in sequence a couple times. The last time I did it.. I had to break out into a different era for a palate cleanse.

Did anyone commit to something for today?

Today's Listening Choices

Jim -

VGUY and I are checking out 10/17/82 - New Miller Audience (might not be as good as the other audience.. not sure what I think yet, anyhow it just popped up)
Also mentioned 5/30/92 (possibly tomorrow though)
Bob T - Going deep with September '72 tour journey.

November what year = Doh!