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  • #1181
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    Hey hey hey rockers!!

    Pick Of The Day: Winterland March 24 1971 (Benefit for the Sufi Choir Of San Francisco)

    Code Seminole, check 3 check 3 check 1, Red Dog over……………

    The yang to the yin of March 3. The band may have started the month off low, but they ended high. Yes they may have forgotten an organ, but this fine and underrated show is much crunchier and more expansive than what came three weeks previously.

    The Skull Album Johnny B Goode, so early in the first set. Top notch grease, especially the crispy Hard To Handle. A big jam sequence in the first set highlighted by an excellent Other One. How and why did they end the set with such a hard rockin’ Beat It On Down The line? Solid NFA suite to close set two, followed by a nice Uncle John’s Band encore.

    I know not everybody digs 1971 shows, but this one is worth a listen, and would make a nice official release some day……..

    Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

    Rock on!

    Doc
    Where's your will to be weird?

  • #1182
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    Re: Overwhelming Task

    Perhaps the hardest part was convincing Phil some of this stuff is too good to fret over sound imperfections.

    I have to imagine giving Latvala reign of the vault was akin to giving a kid the key to the candy store. We have Dick to thank for most of what's out there that was not officially released (more important 30 years ago than today), but sometimes I wonder what things would be like if he wasn't as generous a head as he was. We would be enslaved, waiting for the next release. ...but imagine the elation of the great surprises that await....

    Anyway.. super busy which puts me in lurking mode, I check in when I can. Sorry for that. My extra credit has been a bit of Dec 73. Such a long, long time to be gone and a short time to be there.

    Big rain event here now.. a hard rain's gonna fall.

  • #1183
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    To 1985 - Dick Latvala starts work as the GD archivist.
    It must have been an overwhelming task.
    The new music format called compact disc is here.
    He has his list started, likely from memory and his own tape collection.
    What would we tell him is THE most important, or best, way to start the releases?
    Assume it's all there in the vault and good enough to release, just to make it easier.
    I'm ready back then as my wife just bought us our first CD player. Quite expensive and so are the CDs. $17.99 for a single when LPs are still under $10.00. I'm still a GD novitiate and have no clue having only attended seven shows ('78-'80).
    Cheers
    Oh, and is there a list (Dave L.?) of Dick's potentials that have not been released? Or is that now part of the Dave's list that Oro cites from time to time?
    (Oro - I vote for the live GO since it's the one I know)

    Edit: Only three of those If I Had The World To Give. First is the Aug. 30-31,1978 that I keep asking for. I'll check that out Oro. Was the Standing On The Moon of it's era.

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    Sorry 1st show, forgot twice, ha! Thank you, Yes very nice DP 20 review and I concur: all is very good, but perhaps the first shows playing trumps the second shows sexy set list? And is that not one of the best (for last) Charlie’s?
    Great song, but being difficult sometimes it could be a bit Sloopy, but this one shines.
    So awesome we have all these gems to contemplate, hopefully, for years to come!
    Onward

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    Hey OB, I don't think we ever hit this one. I will check it out tomorrow. Thanks.

    Nice review on Dicks 20 Firstshow. I liked both shows quit a bit, but yes, that second set of Capital Centre is hot!

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    Not sure if we did this one, if so, I forgot to mark it down. (and please excuse).
    Perhaps I tried/started at work but wasn’t able?
    Anywho, looks interesting and I think I might have heard locals at the time who went speak highly off it?
    Unfortunately I was still too young, at least according to those who supplied food and shelter ahem—to be going “all the way” to Cleveland lol.

    EDIT: POTD MUST LISTEN!
    If nothing else, you MUST hear this IIHTWTG!
    Really, the whole second set as it’s very unusual, but the Playing sandwich is like a whole separate show, and the meat (Shakedown>World to Give) is simply delicious and should be enjoyed!
    World to Give, another of those weird awesome but much too brief Jer tunes, and this one is phuching awesome!

    Overall, the show is sorta all over the place. Especially the recording.
    1/2 Step>Franks opener is always nice, but this is average and suffers from weird technical anomalies. Next few perhaps underwhelming? It’s all good, just doesn’t seem to have the usual 78 spark. PEGGY O is always welcome but prefer Goldilocks version: not too slow, or not too fast. This one perhaps a tad too slow? Decent Lightning/Supplication to round out the first. NOTE: Bob is present throughout and seems fine thus far.
    Why dat? Weeeeeeeelllll, depending on who you ask this was either the worst show or one of the best lol.
    Also much todo about Bob being sick, with some accounts claiming: he missed the set opening jams (he did); to he missed jam, came out to begin playing and left again until end of show…
    Well, inspector Clue so says you can hear him throughout the whole show on tape, except the aforementioned Jam>Drums>Jam.
    The jam sounds more like waiting around then the spectacular inprov mind melt that some describe? Though I bet it was interesting there in real time. Bob is back for the era typical slow Jack a Roe, but then things seem to really step up.
    PITB seems more energetic and though not a pre hiatus beast, nice just the same, then…., then they slide into an awesome Shakedown to take it higher, but then! Jer bear breaks out the gold, it’s gold i tell ya! and JG wants to give it to you! The last of three World to Gives is just plain sweeeeetttt!
    By the time they segway back into the PITB reprise you can feel the relief? definitely positive vibes, like phew, we made it!
    The band, the crowd, even the sometimes inconsistent recording is on when it matters. Though the recording does slip into an extended section of aud, it almost helps this vibe! Plus, sometimes it’s nice to feel that in the midst happy communal energy often missing in boards. So big A&A to end it and the crowd loves it. No encore guessing due to time?
    So I wouldn’t call it top shelf, but cool, unique interesting show, which don’t know bout you, but that’s why I come here to explore. Definitely not the worst show, in fact, as often the case, the adversity helps step things up and makes the show. When the going gets weird…indeed.

    Ha, told myself only one show today but I’m already into the next night in good ole Crotchfester. 11/21/78
    Sounds like typical crazy Rochester scene, kinda like the Spectrum lol. But they sure sound more like usual fall 78 so far (Big River…) recording too, not a Beatty, but so far so good.
    If only I’d been just a wee bit older, this might of been my first?
    That’s ok, I’ll take the first I did get lol.

    Ok, onward, must be fired up after sleeping with the Elk! Literally, several slept within feet of us just outside our bedroom window last night! Cool sheet Mon!

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    Had lots of time yesterday afternoon and this morning with steady drizzle coming down here. Gloomy the last month or more and no big accumulations but over our average moisture already for this time of year. San Juan basin snow pack at 150% of normal. Best in the state?
    The Cap. Center, Landover beats War Mem. Syracuse hands down in my book. Expected more out of 9-28-76 with that set list and continuous 2nd set. Just didn't have the energy that 9-25-76 has. I noticed that in 2001 only two years into Dave L. taking over from Dick there were no liner notes yet from Dave. But that letter from a Deadhead from 1976 was prescient. The idea came from Relix where he read the Dead were "toying with the idea" of the eventual Dick's/Dave's series' which didn't come about until 1993(?). Man, can you imagine how many more we would have had? (edit: wouldn't have worked until CDs came out around 1984, wouldn't have put them on tapes and vinyl would have been economically unviable?) Anywho the start of 9-25 is so up-tempo with Keith well up in the mix and twinkling marvelously. The Travis Bean has such a vocal quality to it on this Cassidy. Not so great on Loser where it didn't have that chippy sound that song is known for. Keith and Jerry so pretty on Peggy-O. Nice long set lists still then. Nice stretched versions of Let It Grow and Sugaree for a solid set closer. 2nd set is just exactly perfect and whoever coined the disco dead slur just isn't reading it right. It's more like Dancin' Dead with Jerry dancing up and down the frets on Dancin' like a wild man. I mean they're a dance band, right? I know I would have been boogying to that! Audience has minds blown when Cosmic Charlie appears and there is so much newly reworked material in this era. Stand alone Scarlet is TIGHT! The drummers seem to be driving the bus by then coming on strong. And where Fire would usually come in it could have gone anywhere. That's the game isn't it? Guessing where they're going in real time? Do they even know? The St. Stephen samwich has Jerry saying "Yes it does" to one man gathers what another man spills. Smooth vocal harmonies and a Phil moment stomping with the drummers coming back into the St. Steve reprise. And a tight Sugar Mag finish. This has the '77 deliberateness but great energy too. So imagine my surprise when I found 9-28-76 a little slower and predictably mellow. Not that there's anything wrong with a great show with those characteristics but I was ready for a mind blower after reading the set list. The true tango was a real surprise though and overall a fantastic two show release. A fair number of repeats only three days apart but it didn't influence my opinion like the tempo comparison did. Glad we are still getting those two show releases every once in a while. Thanks Dave L.! And thanks to the POTD posse for suggesting these. Onward and upward. Got the jones for JGB - Don't Let Go from 5-21-76 now.
    Cheers
    It's not on us, Dennis will buy anything. Bless his heart!

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    Hit 3/20/70 for a lil snack, now I need to hear some 80s to regain my energy as I’m pooped after digging first round of Sierra cement. Plenty of moisture today brother vguy and you other desert rats.

    3/20/70 was ok. Not much of a HTH jam. Weird, no weir acoustic numbers? Cool acoustic set though, lil Jer fest going on with an always welcome Katie Mae! Electric set alright, but not mind blowing. Pig has some extra spunk in LL: “ put your hand in her pocket, take out her Id and make sure she’s 18” etc.
    Viola always cool, but so so version? Not the best 70 we’ve heard, but not bad for a 53 year old boot.

    10/17/83: another coulda, woulda, shoulda.
    Always wondered what this one was about?
    EDIT: yep, wish things woulda worked out and I made it to this one, sigh.
    So what do you do after 2 Stephen comebacks and a Revolution.
    Just the usual GOGD! Nice Sugaree to open a solid first set. Status quo fall 83 second but with the return of Lay Me Down, and the second Revolution for an encore. Really enjoyed this show, mostly good recording though I think levels during peaks might occasionally have been a tad hot. Perhaps not the tape level, but some instruments being fed to the tape? Fall 83, another sorta under the radar excellent tour. Guess that’s why there’s been four shows officially released from it so far. Check it out!

    Buckeye 88: I’ve had a tape that I combined the first set with the 3 new songs. I think I did that because I didn’t think (at the time) the second was worth another tape? I’ll have to hear the whole show again…

    Yeah Dennis! I NEED to know! tap, tap, tap (sound of foot tapping) lol
    Look forward to more GO reviews. Need to acquire some more new music, but only so many spots on the team, so might wait and see. Mostly wondering if I should get the studio or live album?

    Ok, this Sugaree from 10/17 is jumping. Get coffeed up, cop some 83 energy…then probably time to shovel again ; )

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    had a long post last night that got shut down because of perceived lynx (there weren't any - booo). below is abbreviated

    1st Show - I have the GO studio on vinyl, bought it as a cut out ca. 45 years ago probably same time as Heavy Traffic and undoubtedly because Winwood was on it. I had been confused by your references to a 2 lp release until ConeKid solved the mystery. Turntable is mothballed so streamed it (2x/3x) through the Sennheisers after my post last week (and again last night). first listen in a few years. Really enjoyed it, particularly the spacier passages. Then streamed previous album by Yamashta (no Winwood), Raindog, and dug that also. Where my head was at. I'll get to the live album soon.

    Want to highlight again an obscure Wayne Shorter album, Moto Grosso Feio, 2 tracks in particular, title track and Iska. very cool and out there. Turned onto that by aquarium drunkard. Cool discussion there, as always.

    Also Dave might be listening in (surprise). After my recent comments re summer '88 and fact that most of Buckeye wasn't circulating in soundboard (just a chunk of Set 1 i think), he has Set II predrumz on Tapers Section this week. Has Set I from next show Pittsburgh on Jam of the Week. Listened to the Buckeye segment last night. Victim (3rd time)>Blow Away (2nd time)>Foolish Heart (3rd time)>Terrapin>Drumz. Of much greater interest to me now (I was sorta/kinda fried from Alpine). Def would like to hear rest of the show. What Dave served up is a straight board, not an ultramatrix. Also none of the panning back and forth across stage that is so prominent on the board portion of the Alpine '88 run ultramatrixes. Buckeye was 1st show for several younger folk that I knew at the time. They had a gas.

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    I hope you read my review(s) beforehand.
    Where is BC? I'm not taking the heat alone here.
    The pressure! Give us a review when you get them Dennis.
    Inquiring minds, like Oro, want to know.
    Cheers

    Firing up DiP 20 Syracuse 9-28-76 now. Only got through Landover 9-25 yesterday. Holding the review until I've got both done. But dang, forgot that disc 4 is one > solid > jam > ? Orange Tango indeed!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 09/30/2020 - 13:40

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I like this tour. I agree with Jim that 9/11/73 is the strongest show of this tour !!! I also like the 9/15/73 show that you are listening to also.. Love Phil during Truckin when he says, "Howard Cosell said that" after long strange trip line....Just finished my American University 9/30/72 show.... Now putting on one other anniversary show, Mershon Auditorium from 9/30/76... Started listening to this part of that tour after Cobo 10/3/76 was released on 30 trips..... (that's another listen in a few days)... bob t

Listening to Phil's 50th birthday show today. Love this show. The Terrapin, Mock Turtle Jam is sweet.
Great Althea, Tom Thumbs Blues.
Revolution closer.

If you haven't listened to this one in a while, check it out. The official release from 1997 still stands the test of time.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 09/30/2020 - 20:07

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Was it 1997? It was (is) a limited release and it's still for sale. I wonder what the production run was? Weren't they going to build a trippy GD theme park or something with the proceeds? What a long strange trip it's been.

Great show, great recording.. a taste of what would become decades later when they released the whole tour.

What's in store for tomorrow? Oro, anyone?

..and Strider/Gollum.. I am right there with you. I think I saw Hot Tuna doing a few acoustic songs the first time during intermission at the Jefferson Airplane reunion tour in '87, at Merriweather. Ziggy Marley opened. Then it took me some time to see them again, I forget when.. but I have been patiently chipping away at shows since that time and now they #2 with the GD being the band I have seen the most. Jorma is a living American legend. An unbelievable talent and I agree.. the real deal. I feel the same way about the NRPS, I would make it a point to see them at least once when they were on the same side of the continental divide as me, but with Buddy Cage gone and David Nelson getting up there in years I fear seeing who is left will be few and far between.

On the same stream of consciousness.. I avoided the GD cover band incarnations for years, until 2007. I have to admit it felt weird.. seeing Jerry clones up on stage but I have gotten over that. I enjoy it, including Dead & Company. Bygones.. I like GD music and just hearing someone perform those sacred songs puts me in a good place. I saw Phil's band doing a sweet interpretation of Peggy-O early on.. with some incredible, soft and classy fiddle and I think pedal steel(?). It brought back bittersweet memories. I am happy people are out there carrying the torch. I do agree with what has been written, it's not the same but I am happier being a part of it all than, well, what is it we are supposed to do besides..... Nevermind.. I will gracefully quit while I am behind.

Have a great week all.

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Hey Jim, I also love NRPS but only saw them once live. I was going to see David Nelson for the first time at the Ventura Skull&Roses fest last April but of course it was cancelled. Billy K was also supposed to be there. Such a bummer.

This gives me a chance to tell my Marmaduke/Reno story. Forgive me, I've told it here before but I can't resist. I went to an NRPS show in Reno in the mid 80's. Only Marmaduke and two others showed up. Marmaduke explained that the rest of the band was in jail, having been busted for weed at the previous gig at Tahoe. He played a great "Friend of the Devil". So, there's Marmaduke singing "Friend of the Devil", a song he co-wrote, in Reno, with real sheriffs out on the trail. How cool is that? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

But I digress.... what are we listening to tomorrow? Isn't the weekend coming up?!

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John Dawson came into the music store my brother works in ( Gryphon Stringed Instruments in Palo Alto) and my brother picked up an acoustic guitar and played I Don't Know You and John Dawson sang the song. My brother talked to him for a long time. My brother said he was super friendly , just a real cool guy.

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That's great, Billy! I wonder how John wound up teaching English in Mexico. I guess he was a very private sort of person.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 10/01/2020 - 04:56

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...Greetings everyone! wishing everyone a grateful Thursday today! I see another grateful post from stridder, excellent as always my friend & thank you for sharing With all us DeadHead members Here, bravo!
Concerning ‘DeadVkings’, how about The “Primo” ‘Warfield’ - RSD Release was sourced from The original recordings done by Betty and it’s important to know these tapes were never officially released or used on any past release official or not from the Warfield! Two solid LPs of “acoustic” Grateful Dead with Pristine & clean recordings, mastering & mix! An excellent snap shot of the dead doing their best playing & paying tribute to the Americana music style at the time in history.
Concerning ‘New riders of the purple Sage‘, my cousin is the Bass Player so the new riders are apart of my extended family for over 40 years now! What a long strange trip it’s been!
Take care everyone, be safe be kind & rock On!
Decided early this morning I’m starting my day listening to Dave’s Picks #9! 5/14/74 ‘Adams Field House’ MT beautiful!
🙏❤️💀🌹

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There are some fine shows to be mined there if you can handle midi-fied Dead. Was there a Scarlet>Fire on that tour? I know they shied away from it on 10-14, but I can't think of another yet that month.

these are all classic lps, blows has mau mau, a great protest song, when I was in high school, I was in the back of civics class and there was a blackboard, I wrote down the lyrics to Mau Mau for all to see, it stopped class and I was first chastised for what I did, later, I was applauded. starfighter has earthmother, and baron has flowers in the night, another great protest song. "Old man get some solders, keep them close at hand, the seeds that were sown yesterday now flower in the land, guard yourselves most carefully military might, plants that can not bloom by day must flower in the night" seems to fit right in to today. I mean didn't Nixon want his brown shirted followers to "stand by" and want his sheep to go and "watch the polls"?

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They were a bit scarce in 89.. but there were three in October. Some of this second set thunder was replaced by Dark Star, Death Don't, Attics, etc. Funny, I was just thinking about S>F in response to some 80's posts made on the Dave's Picks 35 thread.. that one of the big pulls for me in the 80's is Scarlet>Fire. Scarlet Begonias has that infectious, funky groove that just pulls me in. I can't imagine passing over these years altogether. Those opening two chords.. it sets the direction for the rest of the show.

89 Scarlet > Fires, 12 times played of 73 shows or once every six shows that year.

02/06/89- Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center - Oakland, CA
03/27/89- The Omni - Atlanta, GA
04/06/89- Crisler Arena (University Of Michigan) - Ann Arbor, MI
04/16/89- The Mecca - Milwaukee, WI
06/21/89- Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View, CA
07/07/89- John F. Kennedy Stadium - Philadelphia, PA
07/18/89- Alpine Valley Music Theater - East Troy, WI
08/06/89- Cal Expo Amphitheater - Sacramento, CA
10/01/89- Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View, CA
10/14/89- Brendan Byrne Arena - East Rutherford, NJ
10/20/89- The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA
12/06/89- Oakland Coliseum Arena - Oakland, CA

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You all covered a lot of ground yesterday. Nice work!

Bob T how’s Tour? One more show to go.
Can’t wait to hear all the tour stories.
I listened to tapes of the Stanley Theatre shows, they are sick!
Especially dig the Dark Star > Cumberland, Attics, Promised, UJB I heard yesterday from 9/27.
Wonderful wonderful stuff. 24 minutes into the furthest reaches of Dark Star the band pulls back the curtain and unloads the first and only verse. Too much!
Really enjoyed that.
Still working through 9/26 just finished a real nice PITB at start of Set 2, and liking the looks of this set list, Stand Up, Sit Down, Stand Up, Turn Around, Stand On Your Heads, Woo Hoo. Dig it.

Marmaduke sure does seem like a kind hearted sole, I like the scene in Last Days of Fillmore where he gets the balloon for the little kid. Great stories Gollum & BTK!

Have you all heard “In The Morning” outtake from Surrealistic Pillow with Jerry G? Killer ’66 Jerry jams on that one, stumbled across it the other day. Well worth seeking out. It’s on YouTube.

DeadVikes with those 1980 Warfield / Radio City shows, I think most of it still exists in the vault. What DL was saying was “Unfortunately a lot of that was erased.” So I think it’s a scenario where you don’t have a couple of reels for a few shows, seems like all the acoustic stuff was saved. I think the SBDs that circulate pretty much reflect what’s in the vault. But, goes to show you don’t ever know.

I see OB went out on Sept ’73 horns tour.. WAAAAApppRR, SQUEAK, RARRRRP ;)

There’s some skeevy tapes, cringey stuff, but some gems as well, looking forward to the road reports.

Alright, keep up the good work you all.
I think I should be done with this ’72 jones after this 9/26 show raps up.

What’s that you say VGuy? 4/5/89

Hopefully we can make American Beauty - The Angel’s Share Outtakes a POD.
Links not working yet… Exciting!

Yasss, finally inchin my way through this groovy 73 horn tour. Can’t believe I’ve never gone there, especially since fall/winter 73 has always been one of my top tours. Really dig those last ten of the year with just the true five piece.
Speaking of, I believe proudfoot was just waving the 12/18/73 banner on the other board. Can’t wait till we get that one!

So did 9/15/73 yesterday and it definitely seemed better than the previous show. Perhaps a bit more upbeat from the get go. Aud of the first set not great, but by the historical standards not bad, listenable. Second set SB much better. Not being a taper though I don’t have a good reference point. In fact back in the day 73, hell pretty much any pre hiatus tapes were hard for us to come by, at least good sounding ones...were so spoiled now my reference point has been skewed big time, which is nice!
Been listening at work so not ideal conditions as far as sound and concentration but in some ways that’s better. Much is subliminal in the background but often when something stands out I’ll really start to notice. Tennessee and Playing did so in the first. Believe I thought the Bird Song was mediocre? Second set was great. The progression with the horns is interesting as it seems both the band and the horns get a little bit tighter every show. You can definitely tell what they were more familiar with i.e., WRS/LIG and what they seem to be winging it on i.e., Truckin’, Mags etc..
I like the horns, though due to the idiosyncrasies of SBs they’re perhaps too up in the mix which would make sense...
I also assume that in typical GD fashion they probably didn’t have a ton of rehearsal? Perhaps one of you in the know intrepid travelers is familiar with some history on this? Would love to learn more about this unique tour.

Would you want to have the horns all the time? Probably not, though if they had a side player who’d work for rate yet still have the chops, it might have been interesting to have someone more often to play specific parts with charts etc, but that’s not very GD lol. Like if they had parts all worked out like in the studio for Estimated etc it might be cool.
To me this was the same problem with Clarence or Bradford. It sometimes seemed like everyone was just blowing or noodling at the same time and not always hitting the group improve X factor?
Hell, imho that sometimes happened with Bruce and Vince in the mix too. I’ve always felt like the Dead could get too bogged down with too many voices. One reason I love the 71-74 five piece so much; all that space in the mix...

Ok, enough ramblin, on to the Cuse! Must of been awesome to see/hear that pre 74 like wall set up in that building.
Saw them there a couple times before they switched to that horrible dome, and though it did have a bit of a sonic signature like many of those old “war memorials”, I dug the place. Saw a great JGB show there in 93 I believe?

Scarlet>Truckin' I thought. Maybe somebody beat me to that correction but I'm just scanning the posts and saw Jim's analysis. I'll check out Crisler and 10/20 Scar>fire because I want to hear it. :-) Have a Grateful Day all! Thanks essential workers...Today's Thursday which means tomorrow is Friday by the way... :-)

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 10/01/2020 - 10:12

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is mighty fine!
I like that 4/5 show, have a copy I ripped from a tape on my machine...Makes me want to go there, but I’m all into this 73 trip especially going in order to see how things progress etc.

FALL 89 and S/Fires... Jim, thanks for the nice list. Lucky I saw Alpine and Philly. I haven’t heard everything on that tour yet, but I’m familiar with most except Charlotte and the first Jersey show or 2...
Think there’s potential for a great box here, with great shows and mighty multi-tracks! Not sure we’d need the whole tour but I’d say a couple more from Jersey, definitely the Spectrum Shows, one if not both ?? from Charlotte and the other Miami show, with perhaps some of the Shoreline shows? Only familiar with 9/29 which would go nicely with said box, not familiar with the other 2 yet? These would make a nice 10-12 show box!
Can’t recall specifically about the Philly Scarlet/Fire but remember that whole show, hell that whole run was great.
Hey Pockey way which was always a favorite Brent tune, into S/F, Truckin’ and TOO I believe before drums, after one of those “ya had to be” there moments fir California Earthquake to end the first. That still gives me goosebumps!
Yeah I’m way biased but really hoping someday sooner than later we get all or part of this tour

EDIT: damn, now y’all got me thinking I need to hit this tour next BobT style! So I better hurry up and get going on 73 LOL!

EDIT: oops, I guess Alpine was Sugar Mag/Scarlet, no Fire...I’ll blame that on a Jim not my senility 😉

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Because 4-6-89 was my first show.
So I like it better than 4-5.
I should have gone to both nights, but that pesky job thing got in the way.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 10/01/2020 - 10:53

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Well, nobody guessed that. 3/26/87 and 3/27/87 Hartford CT

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 10/01/2020 - 10:55

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No one saw that coming.

But I do now see a lot of complaining coming.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 10/01/2020 - 11:09

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Dang it.. Was calling Pigpen Era, thought Dave had left me a nice breadcrumb trail to it.

Alright, 1987 it is, I've been known to partake.

My 17 year old self would've freaked out with excitement!!
So I'll let that guy drive this train. Woo-Hoo!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 10/01/2020 - 11:38

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Ooops.. something went way wrong with my list. Let me redo it...

Went from 12 to 6, and only one in October. Sorry about that..

03/27/89- The Omni - Atlanta, GA
04/06/89- Crisler Arena (University Of Michigan) - Ann Arbor, MI
04/16/89- The Mecca - Milwaukee, WI
07/07/89- John F. Kennedy Stadium - Philadelphia, PA
08/06/89- Cal Expo Amphitheater - Sacramento, CA
10/20/89- The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA

Holy shit 1987! Yes, I think I guaranteed it would not be from the 1980s. I was way off.

This is great, Dave is definitely keeping us on our toes and I am super excited for this release. 87 is hot! Love it. What a year!

Now, let's top it off with another box!

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 04:06

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Looks like only one Shakedown that month and I read it's a good one, too (Compendium)

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 04:22

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Very happy for those who enjoy the Brent years. I saw plenty of shows and he was not really that audible so they were a blast. On tape I just can't stomach that gravelly voice and plinky keyboard. I envy you guys. Funny thing is I enjoy a good 1980 show. He used to blend in much better with the band with a Hammond at Pigpen level of volume and smoother voice.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 06:29

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Hello from Springfield MA!! Last day of my virtual Sept 72 tour.... Anyone want to jump ahead with me 5 years today and listen to this show>>> Casey Jones return after 3 years to start the first set and a smoking Set II Have a good weekend all.. Crisler was a good listen and call yesterday.. Bob t

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 07:04

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Wow, what a day for Dead Heads!

Gifts galore.

My favorite things:
1. Deadcast - Gary Lambert's eye witness account of Jerry playing keys during the 9/17/70 Acoustic set at the Fillmore East.
(line up was: Jerry Keys, Phil Guitar, Nelson Guitar, Tolbert Bass, Billy Drums, Mickey Percussion, Pigpen Organ, Bobby Vocals.)
2. American Beauty Angel's Share Demos & More to come (Demos are out of sight!)
3. Highly anticipated announcement of DaP V36
(An official release from Spring Tour '87! I've heard the Ultramatrix, and Taper's Section of SBD, now bring on the normanized version from the hottest tour I got to be a part of.)

Kinda knocks your socks off.
That's how it's done folks, 25 years after the band has packed and gone and they've still got me on the edge of my seat waiting for what's next.
Well done, well done, hats off to all who are making this happen, you all are doing great stuff!!
(BTW if you need any help, lmk!)

10/2/77 is a smoker.
Nice Pick.
Can't wait to hear about tour when you're back home.

Okay.. Happy Friday!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 09:01

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Saw one CJ opener in my life, and I believe the only time they did this post hiatus. It was Merriweather '84 and the first show of the summer tour within range of the interstate '95 corridor. Interstate 95 runs from Miami up the coast through Washington DC, Baltimore, Philly, New York City, Providence and Boston. One can surmise why they picked this as the opener. Could have been because at the time the I95 corridor was paved with the white powder? We will never know for sure..

The show had the ever present vocal (and other) anomalies of the time, but it was and it was a rocker. I am embarrassed to admit I shamelessly traded my good seats in the pavilion for front row center just by faking it and boldly walking up front. Very inconsiderate I would never do that now - I was young and stupid but man was that show fun. The kids they dance they shake their bones...

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 11:07

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10/18/89 Shakedown, yaaasssss, it was real, and it was spectacular lol
9/17/73: continuing my journey. I feel like every show on this tour they all get a little more comfortable with the different format, especially the horn players, which makes sense.
This show seemed to pick up on the previous show and continue to step it up. The second sets seem especially upbeat, like they were starting to really get into it. (A pattern on this tour).
Seemed like this SB was relatively good too, though my listening variables are such that I can’t fully comment on that.
It’s been fun so far, I’ve really been enjoying the trip.
Though it’s hard to carve the time out, and sometimes takes discipline to not jump around to something else, I really think doing a whole tour in order is a fascinating way to gain a better understanding of the continuous change and nuance that occurred over the course of a tour. It’s one thing to jump from tour to tour or year to year and catch the perhaps more noticeable differences, but it’s more enlightening to pick up on them during their actual evolution.
Perhaps the biggest example Is Let Me Sing a Your Blues Away. Most interesting is the removal of the jam after only the first night I believe? I kinda dug it even though Kieth has to basically yell at them to return to the main song body, but it had an energy/potential to it. Curious if this was fostered by KG, someone else, or the band as a whole?
Ok, onward to the Rectum and 9/20/73. Interestingly looks like no WRS/LIG this night, or is it just incomplete?
Not at home so no deadbase, and can’t seem to find anything on line to contradict?
Anywho, enjoy your day eh!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 14:32

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I was checking the polls on the Dave's Picks 35 thread. Apparently, Oroborous is a shoe in to be the next Senator from Colorado.

Wave the flag!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 16:42

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Oroborous will need to file paperwork, and the way he has been treated by USPS lately makes me think that his election registration paperwork will get ‘lost’, then ‘returned to sender’, then ‘lost’ again.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 17:55

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but as I recall in the end he got what he wanted. Multiple people on the DaP 35 thread are saying he can speak for them. It's a real grass roots effort. I see dead.net having two Senators in another month. And why shouldn't we? We should all be Senators, what could possibly go wrong?

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Submitted by bluecrow on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 20:00

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back to the usual normal, a few steps behind the pack. first, though, hope folks weren't too taken aback at my insistence and enthusiasm for 9/28/72. yes, i sorta like that show. some tough reel gaps in Bear's first set, hoping there's a second reel source out there by Betty (is that possible?)

i started going the Horns-73 tour route and there's a whole lot to explore. other than a spot check here and there over the years , it's pretty much uncharted territory for me out there and so far its straight up mind blown. started with 9/11 and that show is fantastic, band totally on. that Let Me Sing is so fun to listen to - yep Keith gives a little yell in there! excellent intimate version and has me wanting more and wishing there had been more than the handful from this tour. I love the horn work on WRS. I think everybody is really inspired during this show. - among other thing there's a cool Bob led jam in Dark Star that reminds me (without doing an A/B) of (what I thought was) a one off in the DS jam from International Amphitheatre July 1974. And then Phil just starts CRUSHING it - honestly it was "holy cr*p!!" amazement. Probably not surprising but the Dark Star really reminds me in places of a favorite which is the DiP 19 10/19/73. The Morning Dew has got to be one of the finest - tough that the reel source drops for the climax but that is one fantastic 73 audience that fills the gap. currently on 9/17/73 - another great show. what is the crazy keyboard effect that keith is playing during Looks Like Rain?

"No hay way!" that Dave's 36 would be '87. Oh yeah - "Si hay way!" Que sorpresa, clearly no leaks on that one prior to announcement. while my preference is always going to be early 70s, '87 was a great year, saw a bunch of excellent shows, and welcome a release from that we-will-survive spring. I saw the first 2 shows in UIC Pavillion at end of the tour, and the first (4/9) is a freaking barn burner with a spot on Scarlet>Fire to open Set II (me, listening to the tuning - Julie it's Scarlet!! julie - how do you know?? me - it is!!) and a China Doll out of Space. i remember wandering Chief Hosa campground out above Morrison later that summer and hearing this crazy good Uncle John's jam coming from a boombox and when I asked them where it was from it was UIC 4/9, and I'm like oh yeah that was freaking excellent, I was there! So all in with the '87 Hartford whales.

For sure casting my vote for Senator Oro.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 20:44

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“Any club that would have me as a member, I wouldn’t want to belong to” or as my ole long departed friend used to say “any women that would go out with me, I wouldn’t want to go out with”
I think we leave the senatorial duties in the experienced, competent hands of the senator from the great state of Nevada!
Bluecrow: welcome aboard the funky ass groove tour! Right, can’t believe it’s taken all these years to finally jump aboard this train. Did 9/20/73 today, good show, not so good sources.

EDIT: actually, I probably couldn’t do worse then whatever dipshit we get stuck with lol

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 22:14

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Sorry ladies & gentleman’s, “double” down post, oops, my first time forgive me please!
🙏❤️💀🌹

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 10/03/2020 - 07:34

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Had a great time with this show Bob t. Good call. First Casey Jones and Duprees since .....
I would have to think this one will get released at some point. Of course it will cause complaining about another 77 release, but I would be excited.

Okay, enjoy the weekend all.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 10/03/2020 - 08:43

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another show from Fall 77 that is ripe for release. also coming up on anniversary of the great yet under the radar 10/9/77 McNichols show.

just "spun" again the Eyes > WRS > Stella Blue from 9/17/73. love everything about it. and the horn accents on the Sugar Mag rave up - omfg. that horn tour is special.

*** https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZmR-T0jilA&fbclid=IwAR0ls0YdWsaTrUhXK3up…
*Grateful Dead - ‘Touch Of Grey’ (Orchard Park, NY 7/4/89)
** “The second set-opening Touch Of Grey is a triumphant rendition, one that Dick Latvala, when he first heard it, commented 'that's the best Touch Of Grey I've ever heard!' This was the Dead's first full stadium tour as headliners (they played stadium tours in 1986 with Dylan and Petty, and in 1987 with Dylan), and they played so well during this tour that they made these massive venues feel intimate." - David Lemieux
*** https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZmR-T0jilA&fbclid=IwAR0ls0YdWsaTrUhXK3up…
...man I love this show, Jerry is in high spirits as the video/Film speaks for its self! Have a grateful day everyone, put a little love in your heart!
* https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q360h88izsg 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 10/03/2020 - 10:33

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I'm adding this to my weekend queue. I just listened to the infamous pre-concert hangout with Jerry. It's great to hear Jerry prepping for the show, stringing his guitar, and talking about tunings, and just about any other topic that comes up. Got me in the mood for this show that I've never even heard before.

I was there with you Jim for that Merriweather Casey Jones opener! The song isn't a particular favorite of mine, but it sure felt like a true surprise back then.

Nice call Gollum

Great Pre-Show stuff!

Love hearing Jerry's thoughts and take on things.

I listened to this years ago, but things take on so much more meaning as you learn and understand who the players are and the stuff that was happening that they're discussing.

Kind of like the music.

And that's why we're all here.

Thanks for the tip, Good stuff!

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 10/03/2020 - 14:07

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If you are looking for something to listen to today and like anniversary show, take a listen.... 30 Trips release and the return of Good Lovin, only second time song by Bob, (10/20/74 first)....Disc 3 very unique.... Have a good weekend everyone..... Bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 07:48

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Okay, going to put this 30 Trips show on today a day late. Have not listened to this in a while.

Looking forward to Dave's 36 and the potential for the first 4 disc release. This series will continue on and will continue to sell out each release, despite the people that don't like the 1980s. I would love your unopened copies.