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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1271
    Forensicdoceleven
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    Mornin', rockers!!!

    For all you completists out there----as well as Row Jimmy fans----the talented Mr Miller just put out a "fixed" version of the fine St Paul show from February 17, 1973. Would make up part of a nice box set from early 1973----2/9, 15, 17, 19............

    Ah well, one can dream..............

    Rock on, happy Friday!

    Doc
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before........

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    ROCKTHING.............

    Check your PMs...........

    Music is the one incorporeal entrance into the higher world of knowledge which comprehends mankind but which mankind cannot comprehend........

    Rock on,

    Doc
    I frequently hear music in the very heart of noise.......

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    Hey rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Austin, Texas February 23, 1970

    I reluctantly discussed this at the end of last year. Here I am again. It appears that I’m stuck in a time warp. The galactic rock and roll union. I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious…..

    It appears that the currently circulated recording of this show is the only surviving audio document from the Dead’s four show excursion through Texas in February 1970. It’s tough coming right after the wonderful, brilliant Fillmore West/Fillmore East shows earlier that month, and perhaps it’s not unexpected that the intensity level might come down a bit. That being said, this is still interesting, enjoyable, and worthy…..

    The band is in 1970 electric/acoustic/electric mode. The circulating recording appears to be missing part of the first electric set, coming in during Know You Rider. For fans of acoustic Dead, this set is nice---Monkey And The Engineer-Little Sadie-Me And My Uncle-Black Peter-Seasons Of My Heart-Uncle John's Band. The festivities are completed with a jammy NFA and Mason’s Children.

    The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind. I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the years of maturity……

    Did Bear travel to Texas, and did he record? Banana boxes, reveal thy mysteries…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods……

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    >daverock>

    The vocal dropouts are not evident in the audience tape, so that must have happened on the way to the board tape.

    That said, the recording is slightly overpowered by Jerry and Bob's guitars from the taper's vantage point, but a little time with a simple Equalizer was enough to bring more Phil and better presence to the vocals. I do recall a few lyric flubs with the new material, but in the overall mix it didn't really jump out at me. Probably much more obvious in the official release/soundboard recording.

    2/22/69>
    Oh, my. I can see this is gonna send me on a primal quest. I have all these fall '69 and fall '68 shows that I've never listened to, but I don't have much from the spring of those years. I love this gentle psychedelia. It's really these delicate type of sounds that really trigger the senses. I'm only up to Dark Star at this point, but what a beautiful way to start a show.... oops, "The transitive diamonds?" Haha. I'd probably have trouble remembering my name if I were there, so whatever.

    It's such a shame that we're restricted to streaming this show. Imho, if the official release isn't so significantly better sounding than one of these circulating boards that it isn't a no-brainer to buy it, then what's with the classism, eh? I know the boys need a retirement plan... but... --mini rant off--

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    Rockthing - good notes on this show - cheers! I'm going through it very slowly, but it's the L.P. I am listening to. Although it has the famous vocal drop outs, the sound and balance of the instruments sounds fine throughout to me. I have just played the side with Loose Lucy and Money Money on. A short side. The lyrics are a bit naff on both of them - but I like the music, and they were both played so rarely that when they do crop up, it's a welcome surprise to me.
    I presume the version you have listened to has the earlier vocal dropouts too.

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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 09:20

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Hi everyone, well I am back from my virtual Sept 1972 tour.... Why I am booing.. Not because of the tour it was awesome!!! When i returned to 2020 i found out that someone tried to open a Home Depot credit card in my name very similar to my friend Jim in MD.... However i was fortunate enough to have a credit freeze on at the 3 credit bureaus to prevent such things... So i got the Lifelock text last night at 11:30.. Contacted Home Depot credit this morning, after a couple of calls found out they were not able to get the credit because of my freeze!!!! Here is the kicker, if the card had been issued it was coming to my address!!! But guess what, Home Depot will let you use the card before you actually receive the physical card once you are approved.. Coincidence that Home Depot has been used twice now by 2 posters??? So if you don't use paypal, like myself pay attention..... bob t

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 09:20

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Did Set 1 last night, Set 2 starting now.

After that I think I’ll do 7-12-87 from the GS Box for a little taste of 87 in honor of the upcoming DaP36.
Wonder how fast DaP36 ala carte’s will sell out.
Wonder if we’ll get a cassette master SBD or a matrix.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 09:35

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Good thing that got stopped BobT.

I’ve received notices of my name possibly being included in data breaches 3-4 times in less than 2 years.
And where’s that 3 free years of credit monitoring that I was supposed to receive as a result of the Equifax settlement?

Time the check my free credit report.

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0155-free-credit-reports

Note: you can get it free once per year from each of the 3 agencies, but it doesn’t have to be at the same time. So, space it out and do a single agency at a time, once every 4 months, but don’t use the same agency for another 12 months. That way you can get a free report every 4 months.

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Oh yeah, the irony is that Equifax, one of the credit reporting agencies, got hacked and lost a lot of info, which is why they are supposed to be giving me (and millions of others) free credit monitoring.
I registered more than a year ago but never got anything. I’m going to look into that.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 09:47

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So after a brief diversion to FAC rock out to DaP 35, really dig the first set. The seconds starting to lose that new car smell...later, went to 7/12/87 after all the 87 hoopla, nice little show.
Meanwhile I had planned on trying to get a good listen in on DP 11 from 9/27/72, but ended up back at the fall 73 tour since I have a tour buddy now.
9/18/73 I was not able to find a source and DB 50 suggests it might of been cancelled?
9/20/73 seemed a tad below the mark comparatively, perhaps that’s why they didn’t break out all the new jazzy stuff? Cool nobody's jam outta truckin’ though. Tape didn’t help my vibe on this one.
9/21/73 seems to pick up where they left off with a status quo (meaning good) first with the stand out being a sweet HCSS! The second se5 was another beauty eh! And though the tape was decent the mix turned out to be lacking as the horns were sometimes inaudible. I even tried different versions but same problem, noticed some vocals and other drop outs occasionally...the only blemish musically was Let Me Sing as Kieth is also hard to hear sing, or may even be struggling as it seems like JG is much more prevelant, perhaps trying to compensate? Don’t think this can totally be attributed to the mix?
It’s a bummer that this was I believe the last version as it was a good song and he sang it well early on.
Feel like the jam on 9/11 had potential, but that was it...unless they did it on 9/8? Probably should have started with that one even sans horns...
But listening to this version it kinda feels over...
But no biggie as the majority of the second set kicks ass audio anomaly’s and all.
That whole Truckin’ through Rat, followed by a great Row Jimmy, and THEN the whole jazzy horn sequence of the show which would of been top notch except for the mix...I’ll need to go back and hear that post Truckin jam into the other one or maybe it’s the post TOO that I really dug, though I was actually in a fog groovin’ on the couch lol. Hey, it was Saturday I deserved a little couch time dammit!
Today I want to try and get DP 11 in, but those last 2 horn shows are calling, so who knows!
Think next week I’m going to try and do fall 89 in order though I doubt I’ll get to them all on the anniversary date.

That is a bummer Bob t, for you and the rest of the people on this site.
Hope they get this taken care of for all.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 10/05/2020 - 03:01

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Sorry about your experience. I got nailed by someone in July, but my bank declined them, so I was lucky. I also received a letter from a vendor I spend at indicating they had a data breach in that period. I assume that's how my info got out there to be replicated in fake card form. So much for those security chips in the card.

So what does Lifelock do?

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 10/05/2020 - 06:00

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Thanks for the kind words and sorry you had it happen also. Lifelock texts me anytime anyone attempts to open a line of credit, or anything similar like a payroll advance, or opening up a checking or savings account, in real time. So i received a text to my phone and an email the same day on Saturday that they tried to open the account. I have nothing to do with Lifelock also. They are the ones that told me about putting the credit freeze on at the credit bureaus, (by the way you can do that on line for free)... Also on a side note, I have my Visa set up to get alerts anytime any purchase is made on line or on phone, or internationally, which is another helpful tip!! Bob t

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Their ad says:
“ Our Travel agency offers:
Transparency.
Exceptional customer service.”

Transparency and exceptional customer service are certainly more than Rhino offers.

“Mind-blogging deals and offers.”

Mind-blogging?
Uh, ok.....

“Inconceivable deals on refunds and advance bookings.”

Inconceivable?
I’m not sure that means what you think it means....

Well, maybe they’re not so good.
Don’t give them your credit card number.

So I clicked on their link and my screen went completely blank. So transparency is the first thing you see when you do business with these guys. No doubt a good sign as honesty seems front and central in dealing with them.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 10/05/2020 - 16:12

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We have a great first set from 4/23/77 in Springfield, Great Row Jimmy and Scarlet>Fire, (third one ever), a good 78 and and 86 with the 4th ever Desolation Row and a Brother Essau... Complimentary head sets and snacks served also.... Bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 10/06/2020 - 08:39

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How does the 5/11/77 show from the St. Paul Civic Center sound to you all?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 10/06/2020 - 09:21

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Been a while since I gave this a spin. You caught me just in time, heading out the door with my favorite device in hand.

Move me brightly..

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:43

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Don't miss Phil dropping a snatch of China Doll pre-Wharf Rat. This is prior to the post-hiatus breakout a week later in Atlanta at the Fox. Anyone know if they played Big River in St.Paul? I suppose I can check, too. It's a nice show that pretty much has it all. Oh, except a Dark Star, although there is a Space...Be well and be grateful all! :-)

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Yes, WTJ, this show they played Big River in the first set.

And I agree, great show. Really like the Jack Straw Peggy O. That Jack Straw just keeps building. As you said great Scarlet-Fire, love the UJB, Jam or Space into Wharf Rat. Love that Brokedown Palace encore.

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Take this for a test drive.
https://archive.org/details/gd1969-03-28.sbd.bear.motb.108057.flac16

Have listened to this several times over that past 2 weeks as I try to wrap my mind Around & Around it and anticipate if/when this will be released on CD and vinyl in Plangentized and Normanized glory.

The time is now Dave.
DaP37.
With a follow-up RSD vinyl.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 05:34

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Clearly in Kelly's post (below), her user name is in reference to the Hot Tuna album Burgers, not the fatty, cholesterol laden sandwich. After all, she's a self proclaimed health and lifestyle freak.

I have it on good advisement that Kelly is Hippie Chicks younger, hotter sister, a rabid dead fan and not a cereal spammer.

Update: Scratch that.., apparently my advisor uses a Ouija Board.

Kelly is actually a 450 lb grotesque cereal spammer living in the top level of a rat infested favela outside Rio. On the bright side, this new spamming habit has almost eliminated his desire for chronic pick-pocketing and the mugging of foreign tourists.

I very much enjoyed 5/11 yesterday. A wonderful palate cleanse - it has been a while since I listened to a full May 77 show. Today I am following Cone Kid down the phosphorescent 1969 rabbit hole and have set the dials to the wayback to 3/28/69. Getting the tractor up to 8.8 mph and holding on tight, here I go..

Any interest in taking a Warlocks tour to the Hampton Coliseum tomorrow and Friday ala 10/8 and 10/9/89?

My ReCRAPTCHA this morning read, "Select all pictures with time machines."

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 06:09

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May '77.. nuff said.
That was fun.

Sugaree in the closer spot. Rippin'

3/28/69 is a favorite.

Hampton Coliseum was a cool place.

Tractor Avatar is activated.

Brain is not.
Traffic Lights & Crosswalks.

GD Hour with David Gans to start my morning.
One more day I find myself alive...

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Submitted by Gollum on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 09:24

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I like these picks! Modesto- 1969 Dead in a dusty cowtown. Then the Warlocks. I'm a little embarrassed to admit I've never heard the Warlocks shows, other than the Dark Star, I guess. Let's do this!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 11:18

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Oh yeah, I’m going to Hampton tomorrow and try and do the whole tour in order as I have not heard them all YET!

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 16:32

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I've recently done St. Paul. Obviously the Uncle John's Band Space Wharf Rat and Brokedown Palace is a knockout punch. The Scarlet Fire may be a tad underrated. Probably in my top 5.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 20:16

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Welcome Keithfan, this is a fun spot.

So, 10/8/89 tomorrow and 10/9/89 on Friday. The big enchiladas of the 89 shows released so far.

I think about this box sitting on this site for sale from 2010 to at least 2016 for $69. What a bargain!

Looking forward to going through these two again.

Everybody hang loose.

Edit-Gollum, you have never heard these shows? Let us know your thoughts.

Beats the hell out of me. Ask Butch I guess.

Ticket number 8109, Sunday 7:30 PM October 8, 1989. Sunday was the purple ticket. The East Coast breakout of Help>Slip!>Franklins. The second set was hot, or as Brent and Phil recanted "...but you better take it easy 'cause this place is hot." I'm so glad I made it.

To get my tickets I was supposed to meet a friend.. who got the flu and didn't show up. I am meeting people I did not know at the Holiday Inn in the days before cell phones, texts, emails, etc.. I was basically stumbling around the parking lot for a long time with no plan and someone I did not know came out their room and said, hey.. are you Jim? Strangers stopping strangers...

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Submitted by Gollum on Thu, 10/08/2020 - 10:42

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Finished set 1 and loved it. I really like the sound of the band here. Phil, Bob and Jerry upfront and in good balance and Brent a bit more subdued than Spring 90, filling in holes tastefully. I really like this blend. And I've always liked the MIDI.
Oct 89 > Spring90? (maybe, for Gollum) but on to set 2...

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 10/08/2020 - 14:25

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So happy they did those shows!!! Haven't listened to them in a while!! Good call... Gonna listen to my favorite 82 show tomorrow... Frost Amphitheatre 10/9/82.... This is one of those shows i like better on audience!!! Really like the second set!!! Have a good day all. Bobt

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 10/08/2020 - 18:46

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You finished both today Bob t. You are an overachiever for sure.
10/9/89 for me tomorrow.

Can't imagine how great these shows would have been to see in person. You must have had a blast Jim on both days. Must have been weird to not have the scene outside.
10/9 of course gets a lot of praise due to the Dark Star and Death Don't Have No Mercy, but, 10/8 is no slouch.
Really great show. These recordings are so good.

Why don't people like them, who knows, but they are missing out.

89 has a lot to offer Gollum, they were really on fire until Brent passed.

Be well all.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 05:44

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The Hampton Roads space ship had achieved lift off for sure.. 31 years ago today.

What I don't remember about these shows is stunning, especially because for the most part I was sober.. perhaps a little shrubbery at most. There was a ton going on in my life at the time.. the beginning of real responsibilities that unfortunately I have not been able to shed to this day. I guess you can only stay a carefree kid for so long and life begins.. ready or not.

What I do remember was the return of the newly modified Wolf and just how good they were sounding. It made me think through the of shows I had seen and compare this to how they were playing these two nights. I saw some good ones early on, but pre coma there was a consistency and stamina problem. These two shows were solid, inspired and a huge improvement over what I had seen recently.. well.. probably ever. The boys were back in a big way. That is my strongest memory.

I knew they had pulled out Death Don't Have No Mercy the week before at Shoreline, the warm up for the fall tour shows. But I had no idea what was in store. I had those pre-show jitters, was there stag this time, somewhat unusual for me.. finding my place, fitting in with the complete strangers left, right and center.. then Stranger and that "Long Long Crazy Tour" line. The jitters were gone and the spaceship did not disappoint. I drove home right after the shows.. something like a six hour drive, I had class bright and early the next morning and started my week feeling rough but at peace with the world.

Were they the best shows ever, of course not.. but these shows represented a spark and the beginning of their last truly great run. So glad they recorded it multi-track. We are a lucky, spoiled bunch..

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Submitted by bluecrow on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 06:26

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I was out in the northwest when word of these shows reached me - first heard tapes at the Blue Moon. holy guacamole news. so time to pull out the old cigar box and spin 10/9 today (streamed 10/8 at work yesterday). so much goodness, and that Dew was something else. And Bid you Goodnight??!! these shows inspired me to drive down the coast to LA for the Forum shows (only shows I saw in '89.)

St Paul 5/11/77 is one of my favorite from the spring tour. whole show smokes with one of my personal favorite Scarlet>Fires.

Oro - the eagle has landed.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 06:48

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“when you see 8,000 kids all going up in the air together … Listen, this is powerful stuff!”
- Joseph Campbell re: Grateful Dead

Hampton was special.
Looking at the place you might not think so, but I saw things there that I've never seen anywhere else.
Things happened there, powerful things.

Now you could point to substances or drugs.. but we could play that parlor game all day.

But if you listen to shows from Hampton Coliseum, you can hear what I'm talking about.
Especially if there's some ambience mixed in.
The crowd at Hampton came alive.
Energy connected everyone in that building and it was a spaceship to another place.
A really really cool place.

I think an exploration into the band's connection with Hampton would be illuminating.

Maybe it's because it's where they'd kick off Spring Tour, or a show somebody saw there, or they liked the hotel they stayed at.

Whatever it was things happened there, powerful things.

I think it has something to do with the crowd.

I've never been a part of a crowd like the one during the 3 nights I spent there, we made that place take flight. You could actually see the energy zooming around, connecting us, uniting us, lifting us up, making us scream out. It was a party the likes of which I've searched for, but have never quite found again.

"It" was, in fact, what I'd set out looking for in the first place and had always hoped to find.
"It" was at Hampton.

I wasn't there in '89 but of course these shows are legend.
There's a certain edge to the band when they're on at Hampton, you can hear it on night 1.
I'm looking forward to night 2.
Fun stuff

Cool story Jim thanks for sharing.
It totally did look like a spaceship.
And that puppy could fly!

Happy Friday, hope it's a silky silky crazy crazy night for you all!

EDIT: PS - 10/9/82 = Good Call! Glad you mentioned it.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 10:27

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Y’all have covered much of the mystique and vibe of that magical place! I’ll add my two shillings later as I have to get some stuff done, but yeah, shows like these are why my mind gets blown by folks who write them off, my favorite being “there’s nothing worth listening to after 78”....to each their own I guess.....10/8, like DV said, doesn’t have quite the bling as 10/9 but “it’s no slouch” amen brother!
In some ways overall it might be better? Are one of these the best show of the tour???, not sure, it’s hard to not be biased after such an experience, (came out feeling like I’d been mildly dosed! just from the energy etc)..but I’ve kinda felt maybe Nightfall of Diamonds is a touch above overall? And there’s still so many other great shows on this tour that are up there, like Philly anyone? Going to finally take the Pepsi/BobT challenge and do this whole tour since there’s several shows I’ve not heard yet and really want to go in order and do so...been loving that approach as it’s fascinating following the changes and nuances.
Gotta believe that we’ll get more or hopefully most of this tour someday, multitracks of great shows, need I say more!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 11:57

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38 years ago today I was at the Frost seeing the Dead, it was my favorite show that I saw there, they played a lot of good shows there. 10/9 & 10/10/ 82 would make a nice release together. We all dosed and got really high. One of my top 3 Dead shows I attended.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 14:00

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You are correct sir.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 14:32

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Dope!
Everybody Say Primate!
Silence...
Say What?
Everybody Say What!
What!
Hey, that was good, that was good.
Are we all here together...

I'm gonna go listen to #3

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Submitted by Gollum on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 15:24

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It's been great reading all these Hampton memories. I saw three Hampton shows (my favorite was 4/14/84). I've always avoided these Warlocks shows. I guess I figured they were probably overhyped and overrated, because of the surprise billing and the breakouts. Maybe I was a little jealous I missed these shows! :o I see now they stand on their own as great shows. They seem grittier and less polished than Spring 90, in a good way. Right now, I'm preferring them to Spring 90!

I expect I'll be wallowing in these shows all weekend and I also still have Modesto '69 on tap. And maybe some others y'all come up with. An '82 Frost audience sounds pretty cool!

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 15:33

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10/9/82 Frost Audience is finished.... the second set rocks... going to listen to 10/9/77 McNichols which I don't think I have played in at least 25 years.... I do remember the Sugaree and the Scarlet Fire..... For some reason i tend to skip over the early 1977 October tour after the Paramount shows.... I wonder why......Have a good weekend everyone.. Bob t

Love the tickets. Good stuff.
I have had an absolute blast with the Pick of the Day, since this all started in I think March. My god, just thought this would be a few months.
Anyway, listening to the shows and then hearing from this great group. You all make my day. Thank you!

And yes Oroborous, fall 89, so much to offer. Give us some more.

At some point I would love to see them release some Shoreline shows. East coast is great, but there are so many Shoreline shows.

And where is Bolo?? Who got this started?? Thank you.

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Submitted by Gollum on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 23:04

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Wow that Playin' through Space sure went down smooth - and then there's another half hour of magic! Awesome show. The Veneta of the late 80's?!?! Sounds right to me. Now I need to revisit the 10/26 Miami show, another one I've neglected.

Yes, thanks to bolo for the great "pick of the day" idea. So here we are 6 months later and still locked down, more or less, with no clear light at the end of the tunnel. We may as well try to keep this ball rolling!