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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    In some ways the E72 seems like the last tour that nodded back to the 60's. The Caution jam seems to conjure up the old psychedelic vibe the most. Both Dark Star and The Other One sounded very different from how they had sounded in 1969. An incredible transformation for both songs.
    Although they brought back songs from Aoxomoxoa after 1974, they too had lost the psych vibe by then. As had everything else, come to that.

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    Yes that 5-11 show is my new favorite. That just exactly perfect pace and performances on the 1st set matched with the killer 2nd set does it all. Everyone in fine voice and harmonies as well. I knew it was going to be good when the first song was Playin' and the first song of the second set was Dew. This show alone could have filled the EU72 album all by itself and wouldn't have shorted us one bit.
    Cheers

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    I can lose my mind, so to speak, in any show from E72, and a whole lot of shows outside that tour over the many years, but that Rotterdam Dark Star > Sugar Mag > Caution > Trucking > Uncle John's will always be one my favorite passages from any show, any era.

    1stShow - check your DMs

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    NIIIIICCCCCEEEE! Glad to hear you liked 5/11 1stshow. Yeah not exactly sure why that one always resonates so well for me. I hate “favorites” (like the Jim philosophy: last one heard is the favorite etc) and this tour has so many RJs is damn near impossible for me, but this one always just pops into my head when I think of E72!
    I’m sure the set list is part of it as you mention in why you liked 5/10 etc, and yes, that Dark Star is mos def RJ!

    Though I really dug the 5/18 DS too, hell, who am I kidding, all these DS are top shelf!
    I’ve had this show and have definitely spent time with the DS, but it was nice to dig deeper into the rest!
    Actually got to give this one a good sit down listen on the big boy stereo, always a plus ; )
    Not sure what it was about Germany, but they seemed to step it up each night.
    We get another DS but pared nicely here with a decent Dew. Sing Me as part of double encore was nice.
    Another nice but rare You Win Again, shame they didn’t keep on with that one? oh, a Sitting On Top!
    That was a nice fun addition if not mind blowing.
    A reminder of another thing I’ve noticed on the tour: it’s most definitely not the 60s Dead anymore, but they still have those flashback moments, they can still totally get that vibe and energy, and at times, if it wasn’t for the completely different sound they’ve cultivated, you might think it’s the 60s. (Besides the DS/TOO weirdness!)
    But it’s not, so they throw down more stellar versions of the new stuff and a perhaps light, but satisfying side o grease.

    Ah snap, I skipped 5/16 lol. Well, at this point they are all starting to roll into one, but that becomes helpful when you do hear a particular hot version of something as it seems to stand out enough to distinguish itself from the mob…
    Don’t recall much of that on 5/16, just yet another solid well played beauty. First time for this one so I gave it multiple whirls streaming at work. Certainly they were trying to reign it in a bit and keep it tight being on world radio broadcast, though as the tour rolls on nearer the conclusion, I have noticed a loosening up occasionally and perhaps slightly more imperfections, but that’s really taking a hard micro look as even with occasional blemishes these shows are all so good. Of course they had to get at least a little weirdness out there with another trippy TOO. Wonder what that would have been like: to randomly turn on your radio to THAT! Lol.
    Interestingly, no Good Lovin again, probably due to time restraints, or the fear of Pig getting to spicy on the radio lol.

    Continuing in a haze now with 5/23. I’ve had a copy of this, but it’s missing some tracks and seemed to have songs mixed in from other shows or some weirdness, so I stopped near end of first set and started over streaming. Interesting show as they continue to mix it up and add some new/old stuff in for variety. I didn’t get the best listen in, but it seemed a tiny bit subdued? I don’t know, can’t come up with right word, so I’ll,project. They seem like their relaxing just a bit like they know they’ve got some good stuff in the can so can mix it up and let go a bit? Or not,…? definitely need to hit this again later, but honestly getting burnt not so much on this Dead as not hearing any other eras. Too each their own but I can’t just listen to one kind of Dead exclusively, but that’s just me. But whatever, another great DS/Dew, perhaps a slightly more polished Dew? Oh oh oh, Mr Kotter, can’t forget the best Comes a Time so far, another fun Sittin On Top!,
    They mix it up with a fun Rockin Pneumonia (dedicated to my cousin Eecktar who’s currently laid up in a Hawaiian hospital with pneumonia and Covid as he’s been their working on some recording studio).
    As I say, not the best listen but all good, another enjoyable show!
    Ok, on to 5/24. This has been an elusive one. I remember being a POTD but only could find aud copy so skipped it, actually a couple times, but today we’re soldiering on and gonna finish it. Since I’ve heard so much about this one I’ll probably give it multiple whirls and check it out on Spotify at work (for better audio) for a couple days before I move on to the big 5/25 beast. So that’s where I’ll be for a bit, until next time,
    ONWARD!

    EDIT: Ha who says there’s no Dead heads in this tour! Ya can hear one singing and humming along at points on this 5/24 aud lol so there was at least one, and Murphy’s law he’s standing right near the mics lol

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    I really liked this one. Part of that may have been a good focused late night listen. Mix was slightly different with more Bob, maybe less Keith? That highlighted by Bob's interesting work in China>Rider too. They attempted to slow the tempo in the Rider part but not everyone caught the drift there. Maybe I liked it for the set list and song order again which I found appealing in more than one of the tour so far. It does seem to be the difference some times in what I perceive as a good show. Highlights: Loser, Big Boss Man, TOO which was extended and very spacey (one part had the cat looking at me like WTF?) in the first go, then a little jazzy Keith, then a lengthy somewhat quiet interlude before >Bobby McGee>TOO again. Maybe the best Sing Me Back Home so far of the tour. And a sweet but shorter Sugar Mag> NFA> GDTRFB> NFA again to end. Again DeadbaseX way off with setlist out of order and missing songs. Not really counting on that being right anymore. Still plugging away with Rotterdam next but may get stalled Mon. - Tue. with a trip to the Four Corners region. Need us some slickrock and petroglyphs before the weather starts turning.
    Cheers
    Edit: 5-11-72 Rotterdam. Jeez- Louise! I can see why Oro said this might be his favorite EU72. The whole 1st set is at that slow, let's get this perfect pace and is another killer set that starts with a Playin' so you know it's going to be good. Then this 2nd set starts with a Dew and is monumental with the best DS so far and one that is now in my top 5 of all time and the 2nd set jammed portion runs like 75 minutes! The final Caution/Who Do You Love is a great way to end that song's run. I googled best show of EU72 and this one came up often and is in the top 3 or 4 in most lists. Just a wowzer.

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    Crumbs...sorry, I wasn't expecting that for an answer. Thanks for the heads up - nice that them upstairs read these posts.

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    The September GD Bulletin came out yesterday in an email.
    At the end there is a section Community Bits that briefly summarizes what it being discussed on these boards.

    It says:

    In the Pick of the Day, With Discussion thread, Daverock raises the interesting point that for Europe ’72, there weren’t so many Dead Heads in the audience — and that affected the band’s playing. Maybe for the better? What do you think?

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    Sorry - I'm not sure what that means!

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    Daverock gets the call out.

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    1stshow -no, I have never heard Hawkwind's set at Bickershaw. Curiously, I have never read anything about it either, not from the band or from people who were there. Simonrob was there - maybe he knows something.
    1972 was the year it all came together for Hawkwind, culminating in the Space Ritual tour in December. In fact - a timely thought - the 11 cd special deluxe edition of Space Ritual is out next Friday. Probably not good value for money unless you are really into it - they basically played the same set on that tour wherever they played - this new set features three of them. I'll be getting it - but the original album may be better value overall.

    Going back to The Dead's repetitive - or otherwise - song lists - they would have played to a different audience every night, for the most part, during E72, so maybe it mattered less than later on if they played the same songs a lot. Maybe that was the case for American gigs at first, too. It wasn't common practice in England in the 1970's to see the same band twice on the run, so I wouldn't think it was in America at first. As teenager, apart from anything else, I wouldn't have been able to afford it.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

10/9 and 10/10/76 sounds like a great idea. I am in.. but I might be a little behind. I can only imagine how DHB is handling the pace.

I picture him curled up in a corner, Stephen Hawking style, just now getting to the end of 10/9/82 twitching benevolently while Mrs. Brewer feeds him his breakfast via straw of cooked and strained carrots, peas, oatmeal and of course Oktoberfest, carefully blended and placed in his favorite pint mug. ....and just as he is getting caught up listening at the rabid pace, the lovely Mrs. DHB pulls out Dicks Picks 33, a twofer.

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sorry Jimbo and Deadvikes, I didn't see the recommendation or was too busy to check in that day. I don't know about you guys, but all of this quarantine work from home stuff just makes all the days combine...

I remember this one though, because it has a Foolish Heart, and that was one of my first Dead songs, so I was on a stretch a while back listening to a lot of Foolish Hearts. But I recall the entire set list was stacked so I left it going. May need to remove something from my phone and re-upload this one.

This one is getting a workout. Love this release. I am on it.

I always thought the caveat emptor was interesting on this release. Absolutely perfect!

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Not sure I’m familiar with 10/9/82, 10/10 has always been a favorite. A top LL Rain fo sho...

DP 33, just did this, but it’s new for me so I’ll try in sneak er in...

HAMPTON 89: still reeling from last night. After doing 10/8 again during the day as I continue to make a big mess of my basement theater room lol. Did 10/9 at night, proper, including a little chocolate for the first time since this darkness. Too nervous too get that loose I guess? Haven’t felt comfortable freaking freely...Man it’s funny how fast your tolerance can go away lol. Same with beer as I didn’t partake of any alcohol for 8 weeks. Had 2 last Friday and felt like five! It’s starting to come back again, like riding a bike lol, but I’m going to try and keep it on low. Shit is just getting too hard on the worn out organs etc. Anyway, got in a real nice warm groove and listened on the big boy system, smooothh indeed!
Forgot how great these shows are, though I can understand how some folks see em similar to Cornell regarding the hype. Meaning their great shows but if you weren’t there or didn’t know anything about them you might not be quite as enthusiastic? Sorry, not coming out right? But I totally don’t understand how so many are nonplussed by these shows? I do feel that similarly to say 3/27/88 or 10/14/83, the recording doesn’t quite do the show justice...if I hadn’t been there I’m sure I wouldn’t feel that way, but it just seems a little compressed? Doesn't breath enough?
Though I wasn’t at Jersey, I still think maybe 10/16 is overall at least the best show released so far, if not the best of the tour? That of course is subjective/debatable, but I listened to the 10/16 Dark Star immediately after Hampton and I think it sounds better audio wise at least. Definitely think I like the Hampton Dark Star better, including the 10/26 which I went to following 10/16. The first two are technically better, and Jer flubs the second verse a bit on 10/26, but man that last 10 minutes of weirdness that follows is awesome! So much psychedelic gooey madness on this tour. It amazes me how this tour kinda goes under the radar? Summer 89 and spring 90 get all the love, but I’ll take fall 89 anytime. Summer is obviously great as evidenced by all the releases, and Weir has always spoke highly of it. And Spring 90 needs no props, but it’s almost too clean, too perfect if you will. The pinnacle of the rise, while fall their still reaching for it. Fall 89 has an element of danger, especially with the midi and effects. It’s not so new that their still figuring it out, but it’s still new enough that their going for it, experimenting, and learning to normalize it like any other technology in their arsenal. I think Gollum or someone kinda touched on this. It’s such a good tour, I’m really looking forward to getting to know all the shows.

GENNY CREAM ALE: too funny! Genessee was the main stream working mans swill, our fathers generation, we wouldn't touch that shit. (We were hardcore PBR fans)and the Cream Ale was worse, everyone in WNY wouldn’t go there for fear of the dreaded GENNY Screamers lol. For decades it was at the stadium, concerts, they had all the big contracts. Kinda like how New Belgium is here now. Now GCA is micro brew at micro brew prices! Supposedly they’ve made some significant changes. In fact my cousin was at the Brew Pub back in Chrotchfester a few years back and they said it was awesome. Great place and many of the beers were excellent. Not sure he tried the Screamers though?
So DHBrewer, curious how you liked it?

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I forgot we did Day on the Green already. Just rolling with the flow. I am behind anyway.. pesky work and bad cuts for my exterior trim means I have to both do my day job a little and redo some work I did earlier in the week. Redoing always longer than just doing things right in the first place. Argh.. I knew better and in the interest of expediency, I am taking a project that was time consuming enough to begin with and quadrupling the time it will ultimately end up taking.

But at least I have good music to listen to when I unwind tonight.

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Jim, sounds like we use similar methodology: I really don’t feel like doing this, but I have too, and I don’t have much time, so let’s mess things up rushing, so now it can take three times as long as going slow and doing it right once, lol
You should see my Swiss cheesed basement. Had to move my surround wires, thought, meh, 2 three holes with the 6” hole saw, pop em back in and mud em, no problem....cue the Gilligan island song!

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For me it's probably a toss up between the DP 33 Franklin's Tower and the Go To Nassau version, which was my first. Yeah, they're all good, but Jerry is particularly loud and animated on these two performances. Good suggestion on Day at the Green.

Speaking of Help / Slip / Franklin's, today is the anniversary of the last one they played in the 70's (Road Trips '77). I think this one went out with more of a fizzle than a bang, at least as far as Slipknot! was concerned (there's not too far to go in 4 minutes - possibly an all time short after '75) . I think the Franklin's Tower is decent, and actually has a great jam /solo toward the end, but there were a lot of steamrollers prior to 10/11, so it had those to live up to by comparison. They didn't play the triad much at all compared to Scarlet Fire (almost double) or Estimated-Eyes (I didn't count this pairing but I'm pretty sure it received a lot more play). This is odd to me, but they did a lot of odd things with their song rotations. But there you have it - this is the day. I was lucky enough to catch them play Help /Slip / Franklin's for the last time with Jerry up in Albany, June 22, 1995. Funny thing about that show is I had no idea Jerry was in poor health and I though it was great. The video doesn't confirm this, but it just goes to show you how much different it is being there.

Speaking of 10/11/77 - the Let it Grow absolutely cooks - top 3 post-hiatus versions for me. Go figure.

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A great song.. I'm a big fan from all era's. I do like the intensity in Jerry's playing on some of the later versions. Mid 80's and 89/90 come to mind. I also like how the midi can work with that song when they tweak it just right.

Anyway.. agree, great tune with or without the WRS intro.

Edit, I would add if you judge the song simply on Jerry's playing this one's similar to Jack Straw. Up to a point, the more it got played the more ferocious and incendiary the guitar. In one of my early shows, forget which one it was the Let It Grow that I left me slack jawed and scratching my head when the dust settled after the first set. And about six months later I got either the same tape or one from the same tour and I just couldn't get enough of it for the next 8 to 12 months.

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yes, a favorite version - as you say "absolutely cooking" - a highlight from that release. Got me thinking that I didn't recall any from spring tour and sure enough they took a break from song from early Oct. '76 until Fall Tour '77. hadn't picked up on that gap before.

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I forget.. is Jerry playing the Travis Bean or the Wolf on these shows? I think the return of Wolf but I forget.

Listened on two different systems. I am sonically dyslexic tonight.. I cannot determine if sounds too thin or just right and I need to wake up the family to truly enjoy it. My headphone listen did not help..

I also think this release would benefit from a remaster, but it could be my ears and my equipment.

I also stand behind my early to mid 80's comment. He is a man possessed at times.

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I think Jerry got the Modified Wolf back in Fall '77 so it's probably the inlayed Wolf you're hearing :)

10/11/77 is killer, I might keep playing it. As I only gave it a cursory glance yesterday. Tempo on LIG is crazy time, they're hard charging.

Also for any geeked out collectors like.. all of you.
Dave L posted some uncirculated SBD portions of 4/29/77 on Taper's Section this AM.

At least 2 tracks haven't circulated before from what I can tell.
4/29/77 is a hot show and DL seems to be a fan.
He's been playing bits and pieces on the Taper's Section for years now and I've been trying to gobble them up as soon as I find them and have done.
3 Tracks are also on Digital Download Series Volume 1.

I think that'll be getting a play today.

What you all gonna listen too?

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I am not sure. Something off the beaten path perhaps..

Somebody was blasting Staying Alive from a raft on the river Friday (decent, loud portable waterproof speakers are seemingly everywhere these days). Something as far away from that horror movie of a song as one can possibly get. I spent the last 30 years trying to get as musically far away from that sound as humanly possible. Yet.. once a year or so someone decides it's ok to play? argh.. :D

Primal? Something with It's a Man's Man's World? 91 with Bruce or do we concede to disco GD style and pick something with a rippin' Shakedown?

I actually don't care so long as it's not disco. Any show's anyone has been itching to hear?

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a shortie. Hope everyone has this.. if not PM me.

Download Series 12: April 17, 1969 at the Washington University in St. Louis, MO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead_Download_Series_Volume_12

Disc one
"Hard To Handle" (Redding, Jones, Isbell) - 7:18
"Morning Dew" (Dobson, Tim Rose) - 10:21
"Good Morning Little Schoolgirl" (Sonny Boy Williamson) - 9:16
"Dark Star" > (Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Ron "Pigpen" McKernan, Bob Weir, Robert Hunter) - 21:35
"St. Stephen" > (Garcia, Lesh, Hunter) - 2:34
"I Know It's A Sin" > (J. & M. Reed) - 3:45
"St. Stephen" > (Garcia, Lesh, Hunter) - 3:01
"Turn On Your Lovelight" (Malone, Scott) - 19:13
Disc two
"That's It for the Other One" > (Garcia, Kreutzmann, Weir) - 22:44
"Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)" (Grateful Dead) - 1:53
"The Eleven" (Lesh, Hunter) - 13:57
"Dupree's Diamond Blues" (Garcia, Hunter) - 5:06

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And I was just about to suggest 4-24-78. Good thing I didn't! :)

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Works for tomorrow..

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Thanks Jim, a little 69 for a change of pace sounds good. And Dave's Picks #7 for tomorrow sounds great. 4/24/78!

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Completely agree cone kid. But that song seems to never go away, it just rattles around in your head.. sort of like stepping on a big wad of gum, it's annoying and takes way too long for it to go away.

My comments on the Download Series are the same as they were 14 years ago.. I feel they could have done more with the sound. Either that or the masters were not AAA+ Blue Chip. Still good shows and I use them occasionally when I want to go down the path less travelled.

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No need to twist my arm to spin the great 4/24/78. Meanwhile, I will follow Oroborous footsteps into Oct 89. Now that I've turned on to the Warlocks shows, I feel the doors have been opened for all of Oct 89. I had forgotten that we have 10/16/89 in multitrack glory ("Nightfall of Diamonds"). That's another one I've neglected. I've barely even listened to that one. And then the great grand finale of 10/26 - this should be fun. Gooey psychedelic goodness, indeed. Looking forward to any other tour reports, Oro.

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Sorry, been slacking here trying to get some work on my theater finished.
FALL 73: I did finish that last week. Believe I left off with a fine 9/21/73 Rectum show.
From what I can recall lol, 9/24&26/73 were pretty similar, actually, not surprisingly, not a lot of variety on this tour in general. Makes sense considering the focus on the new material and the use of supplementary musicians for this new material.
In fact, the biggest trend I noticed on this mini tour, was that by the end, all “that” was relegated to the last part of the show, with the horn guys only on Eyes, WRS, and Sugar Magnolia. Early on, besides the aforementioned, they were on Truckin’ and occasionally elsewhere, and of course Let Me Sing. It’s a shame that one fell by the wayside but I’m guessing Keith’s shyness and having to be the front man singing was just never going to work?
Anyway, Boo fa falo had a nice Here’s Comes a Sunshine, and I believe the tours only Sing Me Back Home, while the Burg had a nobodies, and of course overall many nice status quo Playin’s on the tour. Really glad I finally went through these, shitty tapes and all, interesting tour and yet another cool adventure by the boys to take it furthur!

I can see why this probably wouldn’t get a full box treatment, but considering the historical elements, the new material, and the fine playing you would think a small 2-3 show release would be appropriate. I agree with the consensus that 9/11/73 is a must. All the above greatness while fresh and obviously fun for them, with a sweet Dark Star too. All that’s missing is a HCS! Next I’d say I concur with brother Bluecrow about 9/17/73 at Syracuse, with perhaps one from either Pittsburg or Buffalo thrown in to document the tour/horn/set list progression. So glad I finally went there, can’t believe it took me so long especially since fall/winter 73 has long been one of my top say five tours. It’s like a nice appetizer for that giant feast that followed!
Ok, speaking of favorite tours, on to FALL 89.

Did 10/11&12/89 2/3 times over the last couple days while I made a mess of my basement lol.
Main thing I can say is it’s tough to follow those Hampton shows! Both 11&12 are good status quo 89 shows (mostly good, a few lesser moments too), but overall enjoyable sets, playing, energy etc, but I kept saying to myself, especially for 9/11 “these are hangover shows”.....You can literally feel the “elephant” and it’s energy have left the room so to speak. But since there has to be a “next” show, in typical GD workmen like fashion, they pick up the load and carry on.
Like a Monday after a big party/reunion weekend!
So far on the tour Jers been pretty strong and consistent, Bob, not so much? Brent was good in Hampton, but not as much here, even my fav Little light is perhaps that? Decent Pockey way and mostly good support work...enjoyed that whole sequence on 10/12 with an always fun second set Cumberland! Bob tries to steal one of Jerry’s versus which lends a palpable lift to the overall vibe such that you feel them all smiling at each other and it makes you smile too. I love these little nuances that shine through the Dead’s music.
So perhaps these aren’t top shelf, If they lived in a different space not related to the shows around them, meaning taken on there own, their enjoyable enough, and of course have some of the nice weirdness that was a highlight throughout most of the tour. The drumz/space/midi sequences where awesome if your into that? But if I was constructing a box for this tour I’d could see not needing to include them....
Next night it’s Bob and Jer on Letterman, and then back to the swamps of Jersey for 10/14, with a nice first set closing Help-Slip-Franks and I believe a solid second set? Have this one on tape, but not too familiar with....
Probably try and give the 14&15 a few spins over the next couple days with a big Friday rave up of the mighty Nightfall of Diamonds 10/16/89 blockbuster! I still think overall this is one of the best single live releases ever, yet it seems to really fall under the radar? I think maybe the sound is the best of the 4 releases so far, but I’m getting ahead of myself.
Ok, caught up....Onward!

Oh, other catch ups:

BIG THANKS to Bluecrow! Outta nowhere he remembered something I said I was missing months ago and when he found an extra, generously sent it my way! Amazing, thoughtful and a dose of just what the world needs, kindness!

CASEYJ: another big shout out to you too, I don’t care what anybody says your awright!
Oh, and with the holidaze shopping season coming up, he does fine dye work, especially if your looking for custom Chefs themed apparel....

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Nice little Stayin' Alive tease right before MAMU for you Jim.

Or was that part of the plan Slow Dog Noodle?

Either way, pretty funny.

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I completely forgot about that. Let's just be thankful they changed their mind.

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And at the beginning of Big River. This is a good show. Really like the It Must Have been the Roses, Passenger. Solid Scarlet Fire, Black Peter, Werewolves of London encore is fun.

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My first Dave's Picks. Bought it off EBAY right around the time DAP 11 was released. I read about the 2.5 minute jam in Music Never Stopped on Heady Version; the jam starts at 3:20 and is absolutuely mesmerizing. It's the only reason I bought the CD. I had no intention of buying anymore two tracks, but my need to have the best live version of everything is overwhelming sometimes. And of course I later found out there are no best versions only several best versions. But this one is hot.

The Music Never Stopped jam used to be non-existent, but by October '77 Road Trips you can hear a pretty good one, as well as DP 18. There are some other good ones out there in '78 but, I think this is the MOAB.

Okay, how does 10/14/1980 sound? The last night at the Warfield.

There is a good Miller soundboard for sets 2 and 3. Unfortunately, the acoustic first set is missing.

Stay well out there.

I think we have Oroborous pick on Friday for 10/16/89, Night Fall of Diamonds. Looking forward to hitting that up again.

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DV - You read my mind... or Cousins Of The's post :)

Both are cool!

BTW if you want some of that amazing Acoustic action -
Acoustic Set opening 2 Tracks -
https://archive.org/details/gd1980-10-14.108883.sbd-stanley.blackwood-w…
Cassidy, All Around This World, China Doll & Birdsong are on Reckoning
IMHBTR, Monkey, Heaven Help The Fool & Ripple are Audience only here -
https://archive.org/details/gd1980-10-14.fob-nak700.ellner-marino.gmb.8…

Good call ya all!

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Yes, I was totally trolling Jim and his Stayin Alive comments by picking 4-24-78. Bobby is laughing during the whole MAMU trying to keep its western sensibilities as Keith and the drummers do their best to force a Stayin Alive segue. We were probably all saved only because no one knew the words.

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Looking forward to the cabin chat tomorrow for the first two show Dave's Picks released to date. As others have stated most likely four CDs.

Certainly leaves the door open for other releases down the road.

Should be interesting to see how long this one will take to sell out.

The circus is in town. I miss those days.

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So what’s today’s pick? I’m always game for Dave’s and Dick’s picks! Hey

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If you went with today in Grateful Dead history, 1988, 1989, 1977, 1994, 1984, others? I'm up for literally anything though. :-)

-edit- Can't believe I missed 1976 Shrine, too!

I'm itching for an infectious Scarlet Fire. I started with just the Scarlet Fire from 84 mentioned below, but leaning towards something a little more polished with stronger vocals.

...but that's where I am heading. A good Scarlet has that infectious groove, appropriate for a Thursday.

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Otis!

Yes sir, that 10/15 show is strong, Wharf Rat as I recall really sparkles. Dave floated a Taper's of the Complete Set 1 at some point, but the Rick Pauline Audience recording is smoking and really good quality.

And yeah, 10/15/76 needs some mention, as well as 10/15/83 an 80's classic.

Speaking of 80s classics, did I hear something about Shakedown Stream?
Or did I read that on the Deadcast bonus episode page... hmmmm.

And, let's not forget about the never-before-released 46 tracks of outtakes & 10 demos from the recording of American Beauty.
I just fired mine up.

Good Day to be a Head!
Enjoy All

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10/15/1984. I will check it out Otis.

Good to hear from you Otis.

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Thanks! Yeah, I've been in silent lurker mode these past few weeks (months? years? I no longer understand time...) Been barely keeping my head above water in this "virtual" teaching world.

On the 84 Bird Song now, and it does sound mighty sweet :) Probably move on to the Shrine 76 show for some more listening later on today if possible.

Peace

Glad to hear a head is sharing knowledge with the next generation!

Proud of you Otis, keep up the good fight.

Stick with 10/15/84 through set 2. Gotta hear Jerry's fanning in Wharf Rat.. I love it.

BTW can't get enough of this 1970 cache of studio outtakes.
Props to Dead.net on this day of announcement (fingers crossed)
I really wanted some 1970 this year.. preferably never-before-released or tapes we thought lost (9/17 & 9/19 looking at you) and what'd they do?
Gave us a treasure trove of unknown studio outtakes from both 1970 albums.
Hot damn!

My inability to see into the future goes unchallenged ;)
This Attics demo, wow just wow.
"Where I come from an unreleased acoustic set from 1970, that's big news" - Jesse Jarnow

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Otis, Wilfred, Gra8fulgal and the rest of ya knuckleheads!
Buenos Dias!
10/15 another of those “days”...Remembering my ma 2016, first and only St Stephen 1983, My only Florida shows including 10/15/88, etc, etc, some days just seem to have more happen? Like just minutes away from the Big Chat!!
But today we’re going to continue on with 10/15/89. Been through 10/14 a bit and really enjoyed it.
Starts out pretty standard, decent performance and energy. Followed by a nice FOTD one of only 2 (10/25) on the tour.
Then after Bobs quick psychedelic cowpoke side trip, we get a sweet first set closing of Help>>Slip>>Franks!
This set started out with a nice relaxed vibe that built nicely into a real treat. Second set picks right up where they left off with a nice Foolish Heart, good WomenR, but perhaps not quite the fire of the summer versions i.e., 7/4/89.
But the big surprise, ok, we’ll after the H-S-F, was a nice Stand alone Scarlet, followed up by Truckin’ leading the trip into the Weird Zone, which is another 89 space fest. Out the other side with another surprise and the only China Doll of the tour, and fourth of only four for the year! Perhaps presenting this chestnut is how they get away with a quick Saturday night show on this NY crowd? Though now that I look, it’s close to 140 minutes, so mostly looks short on paper I guess?
But non the less, after the China Doll, big Rocking One Mo Saturday to bring it home, and a Muddy River to send em out into the night with a peaceful easy feeling.
Not gonna say it quite hangs with the big dogs on the tour, but it could definitely work as “filler” on a box due to cool set list and the big carrot for me, multi-track madness! Ok, onward! Today’s first call is 10/15/89, but with all kinds of other great suggestions going on here. Want to check out that 84, in fact if anyone wants more 84, I can recommend 10/20/84!
Still looking to find the Stayin Alive madness y’all were on about 4/24/78. That sounds like must hear viewing!
STAYING ALIVE: funny, I hated that shit back in the day....loathed it, aaaaaa, like the closed minded yute I was, pretty much couldn’t tolerate anything popular....”not cool” idiot! Anyway, some of that music like a lot of things, has really grown on me. Don’t get me wrong I don’t go up to the stereo room on Friday nights, get properly tuned and go for the disco. But occasionally when the stars align I admit I can dig some disco! I even made a 2 disc volume of hits of my choosing that I call “Pedro Mix”. I’ve done this with several artists of genres and did the Disc mix for my buddy and former associate’s kid. He’s liked many of my mixes, especially the Soul Jazz, so asked me to make a disco mix for his little girl who was getting the Boogie Fever! They loved it, my misses really loves it (“anything but dead”) LOL, and I do too!
Some time, when your feeling extra groovy 😉, fire up Donna Summers I Feel Love on a good system and deep listen in the captains chair, loud of course! Follow that with Stayin Alive, and see if that doesn’t get ya outta the chair! We all ripped on the Bee-Gees back in the day, and some for good reason, but my cousin worked on their studio a bunch back in I think the 90s and he said they were cool as shit and NOBOODY to this day, even his buddy Lenny K, smokes as much weed as the them! Too funny!
I love the stuff that comes round here that jump starts all kinds of thoughts and memories!
Oh, damn, time for Dave! Shlater Dead Fiends!

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Oroborous, Donna Summers? Okay, I will have to admit I haven't heard a Donna Summers tune in a long, long time.

And then there is the Dead, made it through so many different eras and stuck to their guns, thank god. Never waivered.

I think Dave's chat put the idea of a second box set for 2020 to rest. It is not going to happen. Bummer.

#36 with two complete shows is a great bonus however, can't wait.

Stay well out there.

Edit. Okay I did and still do like Earth, Wind and Fire. Not sure if they are considered Disco?

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Time for The Nightfall of Diamonds release today, 10/16/1989. How does it compare to the Warlocks show.

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Listened to all three sets. Vast amount of focused music.
Stay safe, be well.

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Ha.. so funny you mention that. I had a big day and went to decompress in the tub last night.. didn't quite have the time or energy for 10/14/80 and picked nightfall instead somewhat randomly. I made it through the first set and just dipped my big toe into the second set before I had to help with homework and put my son down for the night.

...and I was unconsciously comparing this to Hampton, not something I often do. I think Nightfall is more polished, it flows better and it might just sound a little better too. I think Hampton sounds good but I have always been critical of the mix. The instrumentation sounds cluttered and Nightfall has a little better separation. It's probably a better show, but it doesn't have the surprise and excitement of the Hamptons. Oro alluded to this a couple weeks ago, 10/8 might just be a better show overall than 10/9, but the DS, DDHNM and Attics, like watching BAR BAR BAR come up on the slot machine.

I think Nightfall might just be better. The sound felt better and the vocals, again.. just a touch better?. The show is likely just as good, but I wouldn't trade it for either of the Hampton shows. The best word choice I can come up with is in the same league. I might add to this after I listen to the rest of the second set later today. So funny to hear this mentioned after my deep dive into the first set last night. Serendipitous.

I'm staying away from the 36 thread for a while.. poor ventilation and too few porta-potties.. somebody should light a match or spray some Febreze or something. Visualizing a modified fire hose that instead of spraying water to cool everyone off on a that horrid, hottest day of the summer tour, it contains a foaming mixture of cleansing spring scents with just enough sanitizer to cut through the stench. Wash all my troubles away....

Edit: I lied.. had to reply to the book reference on the cover art. I like to read.

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Happy Birthday Bob!

Been hearing some great music this week.

After the deep dive into 10/14/80 on Wednesday (great tape with a couple small issues & the audience recording is real nice too, overall not too shabby for a bootleg!) Thursday's Deadcast presented us with a deep dive into the Warfield shows.

Serendipity?

That episode was fascinating, and the supplementary material is highly recommended. I believe based on some quick sleuthing that the live footage in the mini-doc seems to be from 10/13/80, as they show footage of an Around And Around > Johnny B. Goode as well as The Other One and all those tunes were played on 10/13. Plus from the sounds of things, the filming took place more towards the end of the run based on Bill Graham's decision to document the occasion. Well done Mr. Graham! And Mr. Jarnow!

Bounced from that to 10/15/84, which is a personal favorite. I love October '84. The PITB on this show is real good, and Jerry's furious fanning burst in Wharf Rat gives me a smile every time. Good stuff and again I have to give some props to the Audience recording by Rick Pauline, it's a really great capture.

Add in the newly released American Beauty The Angel's Share outtakes which are amazing.
DaP V36 Announcement of Dave's First & Charlie Miller's favorite '87 show. (Note: CM mentions that he really likes 3/26/87, so I don't wanna presume too much)
Some killer Garcia interviews from '81 & '83.
Damn it was a Grateful Day!

Today as you all venture forth into a Nightfall of Diamonds, I've noticed some cosmic 1981 nods.
Jam of the Week has a little bit of 5/2/81 which is sounding real nice and our good pal Bolo mentioned 3/28/81 on the DaP V36 forum. Speaking of... lil bit dicey over there.

Alright, lots to listen too!
Shall we go, you and I, while we can?