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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #191
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    Mount Rushmore has a secret room that no one can enter. Located behind the facade of Abraham Lincoln, sculptor Gutzon Borglum designed the chamber to hold....

    Free concerts perhaps?

    I'd like to think of the Dead as the band that played in the secret room inside the mountain away from the park police, crowds and tourists.

    Just adding a little flavor to the conversation. It does have a secret room, this part is true.

    Edit: Then.... there's this. Hard to argue, it is written in stone.
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/123075002293278936/

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    Let me rephrase, if I may . . .

    I certainly did not mean that before Dylan there was nothing happening in rock and roll. But to me, each of the important influences on what we would come to call "rock" music were limited and somewhat self-repeating streams. The great blues artists certainly did some great blues; the seminal folk/country/R&B/etc. artists did amazing things within their own genres. Elvis absolutely blew the door open for Little Richard, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee, Chuck Berry . . .

    But by the mid-Sixties, each artist was still somewhat re-writing what he/she had already written; musically and lyrically pop music had stagnated. The Beatles and Stones were poking at some cracks between genres, but then Dylan came and wiped out everything with the opening chord of "Like a Rolling Stone." After that, folkies could rock, blues musicians could rock, soul artists could rock, and rockers could do whatever they wanted. Now the Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Who, and the good ol' Grateful Dead could make rock music about anything, and could draw upon whatever influence tickled their fancy. And after Dylan, the sky was the limit, lyrically. The bands most of us repeatedly listen to were made possible by Robert Zimmerman. Would we still all listen to our Elvis, Muddy Waters, Sarah Vaughan, and Chuck Berry records had Dylan never existed? Undoubtedly. But not like we LISTEN to the Beatles, Stones, GD, Hendrix, Joni . . .

    And of course, I am open to the idea that I could be totally wrong about all this. :)

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    I still say Chuck was the real innovator in the chicken or egg argument, but I’m not going down that rabbit hole again.
    I got into like a four day tennis match last time lol

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    If you really mean rock and roll then I think the four heads should be Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard.
    For myself choosing innovators I’d pick Robert Johnson, Mother Maybelle Carter, Jimmy Rodgers and Woody Guthrie.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTMm4NEQc1Q. I still remember where I was the day he died.

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    got to agree with Daverock

    before Elvis there was nothing but the blues, then came Elvis and the cat was out of the bag. He was the one and only and totally brought rock to the masses. He did it with class and smarts, using his gospel roots to snare all the doubters and win over all the old folks who thought rock and roll was the devil in disguise. He had such class and could deliver a song like no other before him. He isn't called the King for nothing ya know.
    Funny how the conversation has veered to after the Dead bands. I saw them all, when Jer passed, I was left without a compass, he was my guiding light, my go to for all things psychedelic and the one and only. I did not want it to end and went to the first Furthur festival in 96 with Ratdog and loved it, it wasn't over and I had to have more. Then to the Furthur fest in 97 and 98 with the return of Phil to the line up, that one was special and then onward to 2000 with the return of Bruce and Billy, all were special in their own way but that 2000 line up was awesome with Mark K. and Steve K. duel leads was the sh%t. They got it down on that tour and one of my favorites of the post Jerry bands. Saw Ratdog many times back then also, loved every one of those shows as Bobby still had it and was not going to stop the bus. Saw Phil and friends with Warren back in 2001 also, right after his operation and they were good too, not furthurfest good, not ratdog good, but still good and loved the old tunes they brought back. Caught Furthur in 2010 at a 3000 seat auditorium, they were good, real good and John K was the best Jerry to date. Loved his take on Stella Blue, he nailed it. Honorable mention goes to Mickey's band, they were great and I was fortunate to catch them twice and both times they never lost site of what the Dead were all about, improv and great tunes. Love you Mickey.
    Sorry Billy but you were wrong and Trey was not the guy for FTW, he did not have what it took to fill the big guys shoes, IMHO. JK had been playing Jerry for years with DSO and he had the chops and knew the material by heart.
    Honorable mention again to DSO, best cover band yet.
    Yes, it should have been called Fare the Well Phil, but it was a money grab and that's the way it was to be. As I look back on these 25 years after Jerry has left us, I see the bus, with many different colours, still rolling down the road and will until they all leave us. Long live the Grateful Dead

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    Before Elvis there was nothing

    Thus sprake John Lennon. A bit overstated, perhaps, but the way Elvis welded blues, country, gospel, pop...whatever was to hand... was visionary. The recordings made for Sun still sound immaculate, and there is a great dvd called "Elvis in 1956" which shows him gravitate from cult to world wide fame in 12 easy months. Brilliant T.V. performances.
    In the notes for the 5 disc set "Complete 50's Master's", Scotty Moore describes his guitar work as "ancient psychedelia".
    Truly out of this world.

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    I think even Dylan would agree that rock n roll did not begin with a white guy! :) It was much deeper than that, thats partially why it was so controversial in society at the start.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Kv0vF41Bc. Deadheadbrewer, you make an excellent point. Here's where it all began, Dylan backed by members of the Paul Buttetfield blues band. So who's on your Mt . Rushmore of Rock & Roll.

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    But, Billy . . .

    Rock and roll BEGINS with Bob Dylan, no? :) (I humbly submit that it does . . . ) After Dylan rocked out, the Beatles and Stones were freed from being excellent Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry imitators respectively, and could then become the twin towers of soul-searing rock and roll. No?

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Coincidentally, I watched that on t.v with the sound down yesterday. Looks good, and you don't really need the dialogue. Music on in the background, of course. Puts me in mind of the great Cramps song, " Creature From The Black Leather Lagoon" .

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 05:20

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After perusing these posts, I am reminded of another great scary-ish movie....Shaun of the Dead. Perfect combo of zombie action, humor, Pubs, and beer. A fair amount of gore but in a somewhat over the top way that just adds to the ridiculousness. What better place to make your final zombie-stand than your favorite pub?

GFar, good to see you!

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Submitted by rasta5ziggy on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 05:50

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Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. Michael Rooker is pure evil. You will never go to a shopping mall again.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 07:00

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It was all well and good until--with newbie Grisman on first, Weir hit one deep; while Grisman was comin' (comin'), comin' (comin'), comin' around the bases, Grisman yelled back, "Which base do I run to . . . ?!" Bobby responded, "The OTHER One!"

It ended up not mattering that Grisman kept running maniacally and randomly from base to base. Instead of running down the batted ball (as soon as it was hit, Marty Balin had yelled, "Count on me!"), Marty and Grace and the other four outlilyfielders (it was a trippy game . . . ) all went chasing a rabbit that had meandered into the outfield.

p.s. GarciaLive 15 announced! 5/21/71

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 07:06

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Not a huge horror film fan myself, but The Thing is about the most terrifying film I've seen. Wilford Brimley, sans walrus mustache, is great, Kurt Russell is great. It was a remake of the 50s film The Thing From Outer Space, but mainly psychological terror. Really liked Cabin in the Woods for its wildly different take, and the incredible surprise ending. And not a true horror film, but a great thriller is The Game with Michael Douglas, Sean Penn, and the late great James Rebhorn in probably his most substantial role. You'll recognize the face if not the name.

And speaking of horrors... I'm going to be moving this weekend, and I seem to recall nightmare tales of trying to get address changes accepted by dead.net ahead of an impending release: So, my question is, should I seek an address change, or simply have my mail forwarded including the last DaP of the year? Curious if that is still a big issue that anybody has had in the last year.

Did anyone listen to TIGDH yesterday? Over 6 + minutes
of Dave describing which shopping malls he frequented
when coming across the border to upstate NY.
Less dialogue and more music please. Save the details
for your memoirs ...

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 08:08

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....does that apply to DL talking about his favorite malls too? (just kidding). Head on over to the pick of the day with discussion board. We're spinning 8.20.87 Park City, Utahhhhh.
It opens with Addams Family tuning. Coincidence??
EDIT. Been awhile since I've seen Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I will admit, I plugged in my nightlight last night.

Alvarhanso....as for moving and mail forwarding, I moved a year ago and reached out to Dead.net via email and they almost immediately replied to confirm my update. I also did the thing with the post office online for mail forwarding, which seemed to also work for the most part. The two-pronged approach seems the best way to cover your bases here, however the current ineptitude of the USPS at the moment is questionable to be sure.

And, your Wilfred Brimley mention had me thinking of a funny meme I recently saw. It had some pictures, but it generally went like this:

Jimmy has 39 candy bars. He ate 26 candy bars. What does he have now?
[Insert picture of class full of kids, one of whom has Wilfred Brimley's face pasted on with full walrus mustache, and his hand is raised]

It's a humorous throwback (and not intended to knock anyone with the diabeetus).

Be Well People!
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 09:52

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I was laughing to myself at the very idea of this and then I came to deadhead brewer's post. Great take. I'm just trying to picture the scene in my head. Bad news bears meets Dazed and Confused or something. Talk about scary movies.

I bet garcia had a nasty split finger.

Garcia with a nasty split finger, nice. I bet he could use his middle stub to get maximum rotation.

If memory serves, in the documentary, "Long Strange Trip" Grisman describes the softball game and how he got there. I have watched several times on Amazon. A couple of weeks ago I almost bought from dead.net. Now it has been taken down, glad they sold them all. Before I posted I went over to ebay and bought a copy for $18. I enjoyed the documentary, other heads were so so, or as they say now, not me, meh. Edit: Found LST on the special editions shop, still got me one new for $18, not bad.

Vguy: made me crack up. "I slept with the nightlight on." Haha. Turn on your Lovelight. Now there is a product idea. A Pigpen nightlight with Pig on top and a bright red heart underneath.

Hard to believe, I have a brother-in-law, approaching 60, that still has to sleep with a light on. Otherwise, a pretty nice guy.

I was reading some of M.R.James's excellent ghost stories last night, when, at about 11.00pm there was a really loud knock on my front door, about 12 feet from where I was sitting. I nearly jumped out of my skin. I hesitantly opened the door, wondering what sort creature from the dark would be on the other side... and there was no one there.

Billy - envious of you seeing The Dead at Winterland in October 1978. I used to have those shows on tape, and they are great. The Road Trips release just scratches the surface.

never saw it, prolly never will. A guy I knew years ago recommended it, but...ew...

"you'll never go to a shopping mall again" (do malls still exist?), then we hear that Dave talks about malls he frequented in NY.

Real life is scary enough. No scary movies needed by me at this age.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 11:01

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good stuff. a bunch of that was released on Road Trips, methinks.

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 11:17

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Best thing I've seen in a long time in Jordon Peele's two seasons of Twilight Zone. Not super scary, but super entertaining. It's on CBS All Access. Then I watched all 3 seasons of Twin Peaks, also not horror per se, but good god that was GRATE. Including The Reunion season from 2017, first time I had seen any of it.

I saw Deliverance and thought it was pretty stupid. One of the funniest movie lines of all time though, right after the squel like a pig scene, they are standing around wondering what to do, and Burt Reynolds is like "We have to kill him." Another guy is like "What! We can't do that!" And the squealing guy says, "Now hold on a second, I mean, maybe we should kill him, ya know, I don't want this getting around."

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 14:21

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Glad to be back. Never really went anywhere, just mostly came and read with out posting for a while. Life gets busy sometimes. Speaking of busy, how are you and the family? Hope all is well your way. How many youngins now? I remember 2, I think, maybe 3?

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 14:28

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Speaking of LST, there is some fun stuff in the first segment talking about Jerry's love of Frankenstein and how it impacted him his whole life. Need to watch again soon. Just a little halloween tie-in.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 17:08

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so I say watch "Dead Alive", since we're on the subject of Horror. It's cheesy, gross, and pretty funny (if you've got the stomach for it).

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 19:47

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5/21/71 AMAZING stuff here. This is Primal Jerry the odd thing is, John Kahn was absent from this show however Martin Fierro sat in. This show has a Reconstruction feel to it.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 20:03

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This has nothing to do with anything Dead related, just felt like kvetching. Ordered a Doors box set weeks before release date. I live in Central Maryland. On Oct. 9th(John Lennon’s 80th Birthday), my package goes from Lexington, KY to Pittsburgh PA. It’s getting closer, right?? After 4 days, no further scans, but is “en route to next destination “. Nothing more for 8 days, and today, It’s in Los Angeles, CA. Any guesses as to whether I’ll EVER see this thing??
Garcia Live 15 looks VERY exciting!!

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Submitted by jaimeyperham on Wed, 10/21/2020 - 20:30

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just got a new unopened Dave's picks and it contained metadata. sorry about the confusion. thanks. happy trails...

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 05:08

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Anniversary date of Dave's Picks Volume 3, 1971. Disc 3 contains bonus tracks from the night before, featuring Keith Godchaux's first Dark Star. It's great, he comes through loud and clear on the stand-up piano. I don't think they managed to fit a grand or baby grand onstage until '72. You'd think he'd been playing with them for years. There's a Sitting on Top of the World in the middle (personally, I like to crossfade the two Dark Star parts together for a solid 17 minute classic '71 performance (and this is one of the better ones from that year).

There's also a little bit of organ in there on a few tracks of this show (a rarity for Keith).

And Phil is a bit up in the mix - always nice to see what he's going to come up with. He really learned the shit out of that bass quickly.

....I was in fact just listening to that one the other day and once again simply marveled at how Keith took the reins on that Dark Star jam, totally leading the charge on the pie-aner. It's utterly glorious. I don't mind the Sittin' that hitched a ride, it was actually a pretty clean and cool transition. Keith-addage made this band turn that proverbial corner and they never looked back.

Good Call.

Sixtus

P.S. I hear you GFar, life has been nutso, I mean it's 2020 dumpsterfire each and every day right? The 3 tots are making their way, the only way they know how - and that's just a little bit more than the law will allow.
Glad to see you're lurking and well!

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Submitted by That Mike on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 07:22

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A really interesting inclusion of this David Crosby tune on Jerry’s newest release. Jerry, Phil, and Bill all played on the original, and I always thought it was one of Phil’s unrecognized masterpieces, with an extremely prominent bottom end. A very trippy tune, and one of the better ones from the wonderful crossover Dead/Airplane/Crosby recording sessions of the day. How this will sound on this release without the bass (no John Kahn), just Jerry’s guitar, Merl on Organ, and Bill Vitt on drums, will be intriguing, but these Garcia family releases never disappoint (neither did the Pure Jerry series, but that is a whole other kettle of fish!). Looking forward to this one from 1971, when JG was at the apex of his creativity.

...ask and ye shall receive. Listened to this last night, it's pretty jazzy:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/jerry-garcia-wall-song-li…

Looking forward to this Jerry release. You know there is jamming galore when there are only 4 songs on side B.

I have a copy of the original Wall Song from a Grateful Dead hour many years ago - it included several minutes of extra jamming we were told vs. the version released on the album. That was always a great expanse, and I love Crosby's acoustic (12 string?) he plays on that tune.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 08:25

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reminds me of Family Circus comics, where a kid or whomever will be at one location, and will be heading to another.

Instead of going straight there...round and round and over there...

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 08:53

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I'm on this G-L 15 like white on rice! I love Jerry band releases and never miss one. It's always groovy, tokin' music and fun setlists AND Jer seems always to be having a good time -- probably a great way to relax and play music outside the sometime pressure-cooker of the GD.

Got a whole winter's worth of Jer band to listen to and have discovered numerous unofficial CD-R'd Jer shows in my files, plus, um, I'd guess maybe 300 GD shows, so.....

On the incoming front, I've got Angel's Share American Beauty (downloaded and burned by a friend), the (2) '87 shows, another GarciaLive (No. 15) and Hendrix at Maui -- pretty good fourth quarter haul.

Now, tell me that DaP 37 is from fall '72 and that DaP 38 is four discs of 6-10-73 and I'll just kick up my heels (about 1/4" above the ground at this point).

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 09:13

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I saw the Dead in Frankfurt.
It seems to me like yesterday. Where has the time gone?
Stay save
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Submitted by That Mike on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 09:57

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Thanks for “The Wall Song” link - amazing-g-g-g!!!! I forgot about Martin Fierro who absolutely blew that tune to another Ornette Coleman level! Great stuff. (I wish Legion of Mary tackled more of this kind of material). A great release to look forward to, along with DaP 36. A great way to conclude this sorry, sorry year.
(Years ago, when taking martial arts, the Sensei had a saying that always stuck with me - Finish stronger than you started. 2020, take note.)

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 10:45

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Hey GRATEFULGERD, I was there with ya!

Wow, 30 years ago.

It was a fun show, huh? Smallest place I ever saw the Dead.
Most memorable moment for me happened before the show.
I was talking to some American Heads and asked how the shows had been, the guy said "Yeah, they played Dark Star the other night in Berlin"

My mind was blown. I'd been in Europe for awhile and hadn't been able to keep track of the scene, and hadn't seen a show since Buckeye '88.

I thought My God, what have I been missing?!?!
Turns out.. alot.

Goes To Show You Don't Ever Know.

Anyhow, we got a semi rare Valley Road from Hornsby that night and I was stoked to hear The Weight. Plus it was the only time I got to see Vince & Bruce with the Boys.

Thanks for the Reminder!
Good Times.

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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 11:07

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Today is the 49th anniversary of the 10/22/71 Auditorium Theatre, Chicago, Illinois show.
The show was commemorated with an official release as Dave's Picks, Volume 3 on August 1st, 2012.
Great show great release in my humble opinion.
Thank you, Dave Lemieux!

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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 12:21

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Vguy, I'm not too sure what Jeff Chimenti is gonna do to you for forgetting his birthday, but Brent Mydland has already given me arthritis on my hands actually on my knuckles and it hurts!
Heck, I just days away from my 64th b'day, 10/27 - several very good to great shows happened on that date in GD history.

Heck again, I AM a robot!

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Submitted by hitmeister on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 13:30

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This release is a nice little surprise. I was at both of these shows. IIRC, the first of the 2 is kind of average, but the second one may have been the best of the tour. I remember this as being a great version of Morning Dew. We'll see if the recording matches my memory.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 14:19

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Its always tricky going back to things from the past-like going back to the street you grew up in. Mine seems much smaller than I remember it. Hopefully you don't get the same impression listening to Morning Dew again, Hitmeister. On the other hand, the first show might be better than you remember it.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 15:48

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listening to a show (10/9/76...Half-Step) by the greatest band of all time...the GD...sounds a bit sour and clunky.

I get why some people aren't big fans.

However, the GD, with the beauty, sour zits, and everything else, is still the only band that truly matters to me. Listening for the secret? I hear it, loud and clear. Searching for the sound? Found it, and will never let it go.

"GD is life"

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 17:53

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Very shortly the GD online Alamanac will be posted along with the always popular Dave's Picks subscription announcement from what year will DL2 choose for 37, I say early 1973.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 20:10

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Vguy said: "... did you know the Dead never played a show on August 9th?"

I've lost sleep over this astonishing factoid. YEARS in therapy have NOT helped....

Yeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 22:12

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I would call those not so fun facts. Not very fun facts at all.
...and HF, time to switch up the therapies I have a few in mind.. electricity and microdots. What could possibly go wring?

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