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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • hendrixfreak
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    Need-a-new-release syndrome...

    If I recall correctly, the apogee of this syndrome occurred perhaps 5 years ago when the discussion veered toward whether to let the mashed potatoes touch the pork chops as one chowed down on dinner.

    Blew my mind. Yet, I'm still undecided on that point....

    Next up: the DaP 38 reveal, sometime in December, which starts Tuesday. I'm all ears. And looking forward to that flamethrower discussion... if we have weeks to go to word on DaP 38, I'm all flamethrower all the time.

    Whatever that means.

  • JimInMD
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    It's all about the aim, Oroborous.. When used properly and with good aim, hand grenades will cause no harm to the vermin that annoy you and will usually convince them to relocate to a different part of the county. The same can be said about deft usage of a high quality, accurate flamethrower (which gets considerably harder when the mice make it indoors..) perhaps a topic for another day perhaps.

    I knew you techies would have more to say on tone and style over the years. Interesting discussion, many thanks.

    A little more on the modifications made on the Nash Strat over the years.. the first guitar Jerry began to heavily modify.

    https://www.guitarworld.com/news/jerry-garcias-alligator-fender-strat-i….

    When vermin control takes center stage.. yes, we need a new release.. (or at least word of what the new release is going to be)

  • hendrixfreak
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    I think I inadvertently dropped a grenade...

    Okay, a couple comments. Yes, Oroborous, the flip side of getting different sounds with different guitars is the way a player can sound like him or herself on different axes. True and good point.

    Um, Keef has 500 effin' guitars?! Okay, that's just ONE TOO MANY.... 499? Okay. But 500?? That's just over the top! (Confession: I have three useful acoustics; my fav is a Martin D-35. I have five electrics and have been playing the '64 Gretsch 6120 hollowbody a lot lately, and the aforementioned SG in open D.)

    Lastly, LedDed, I too -- if forced -- would pick Jer's Nash Strat on the Euro tour as my favorite sound, but you're right, one can't separate the Strat from the peak music and improvisation.

    I do own an American SG and an American Strat and love playing both (if crudely). I'd say, the Fender needs more power to achieve its signature tone, while the SG kinda needs to be restrained. The SG was more expensive and I feel the components are of higher quality. To me, the SG stays in tune better. I can tune from standard to, say, open D, on the SG for some fingerpicking and the SG holds the tuning more accurately than the Strat.

    Of course, Jer's choice of instrument -- as someone pointed out -- also must be evaluated/enjoyed in relation to the instrument choices of the rest of the band, particularly Bobby. And yes, I liked Bob's ES335 tone best in the Euro setting. Gawd, what a tour! Maybe time for another full show from that insane run. I still marvel that me and two pals took 2 1/2 years to work through that 22-show box. Some of those four-disc shows required sleep-overs, though I do recall a few moderately perilous drives home after a 3 1/2 hour Euro show.

    Good stuff. What's next? Oh yeah, DaP 38 (big '73 show) and that 2021 fall '72 box! (I need to get out and socialize, obviously....).

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    I wonder if Jerry changed guitars at all during individual sets? He doesn't seem to have done, although as I write this, I do have a distant memory of him changing to a strat for Space in one of the late period dvds - maybe in the View From the Vaults series.

    I agree that Bob's guitar playing sounded much stronger when he was playing the Gibsons. Watching that Egypt show, one of the factors I am not so keen on is his sound. It looks as though he is playing an Ibanez. The sound is quite cheap and tinny. And if that wasnt bad enough, he also plays lot of slide on it.

    Imagine what Jerry could have done with a guitar like the one pictured to the left of this message. Big River etc could have really shone.

  • Oroborous
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    LD, I agree with much of your post Sir, but feel I must respectfully disagree and provide rebuttal about the slanderous over generalization about JGs diminishing skills, sloppiness, and laziness in the eighties.
    I will fully agree that his personal issues and overindulgences could negatively impact his proficiency at times.
    But I believe he, like most that play that much for that long, continued to grow in versatility, ability, and knowledge.
    Yes the overall arrangements and cohesiveness of songs was affected due to lack of band rehearsal, they’ve all admitted to that, and yes this could be attributed to him, and yes he unarguably had occasions of terribleness, but even during his worst times he always had a guitar with him...name a era and his M.O. was always a tv, a guitar, a pack of smokes, and yes sometimes other more destructive things. But he always kept playing! His supposed only complaint about E72 was they didn’t play enough. He always played as much as possible, and when you did get the real deal I argue he was continually evolving.
    As far as gizmos and distortions;
    1) he always loved that sort of thing, there just was way less reliable stuff back then, and
    2) they always played to the times!
    Whether consciously or not, from sixties psychedelic, to early 70s “country” rock, disco, to yes, harder rock, they always tastefully reflected the times without selling out or over doing what was en Vogue. So I think his use of such was for these reasons rather than being “lazy and sloppy“.
    Personally, I argue they OVERALL became a more professional, including lights and sound, band. There were times in the seventies when they'd tune before almost every song, for longer then the song, and still be outta tune. That didn't happen much later on. They’d tune less often and in less time.
    Certainly everyone has preferences and is entitled to their opinions, I’ve just never liked generalizations, either pro or negative. No offense, for the sake of conversation just contesting that point.
    Peace!

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    Remember, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

    Chiming in on Jer's ever changing stable of axes, the best playing I ever hear out of him is on Europe 72. The whole tour, with Bickershaw Festival being to me the all-time high water mark for both he and the band. That cream colored Strat originally gifted him by Graham Nash is my all time favourite Jerry sound. But it goes hand in hand with his playing; he was then at the very height of his powers.

    Gibsons, to me, sound fuller and thicker than Fenders due to their humbucking pickups (sometimes P90's) which tend to be less trebly. The stock single coil bridge pickup on a Stratocaster will slice your head clean off. It's a nearly useless sound... got to at least get into one of the clucky positions between bridge and mid, or neck for a little more warmth. Unless of course you're playing surf guitar or country twang.

    Gibsons also generally prefer heavier strings, .010's at least due to their shorter scale length, whereas your typical Strat-style is usually set up for .009's. This is the gauge of the thinnest, high E-string for the uninitiated. The heavier strings also stay in tune better, along with the hardtail or stop-tailpiece/bridge on a Gibson. Fenders tend to be harder to keep in tune particularly if one uses the original tremolo bar mechanism (just listen to Hendrix live). Unless your name is Jeff Beck or David Gilmour, and you are a tone magician of the highest order.

    There are exceptions... Stevie Ray Vaughan played with very heavy strings on his Strats, got a fat tone and generally stayed in tune. Stretching your strings is also one of the most important things in keeping an axe in tune throughout the rigors of a live set.

    Jerry began putting a lot more gizmos into his signal path as time went on and his skills diminished, as well. He began to hide his sloppiness and lazy playing behind a wall of distortion and effects throughout the later 1980s and especially into the 1990s. Hell, Brent even began taking solos that used to be the exclusive territory of one Jerome John Garcia.

    I still love all the music, and I enjoy Jerry in his later years, but nothing tops the man on fire around E72 era for both tone and technique. I also like Bob backing him on on the ES335 before he went all trebly and transparent, a sound that he maintains to this day.

    \m/

  • Oroborous
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    Sorry Dwight lol.
    HF your both correct and not...
    What you said is true, but I’d argue that an instrument pared with the right player can plug into any rig and do there thing! Conversely, much of the sound/tone that we dissect is due to the technology. Like can you imagine what JG would of sounded like on Live Dead plugging that SG into his 1990 rig? And to those that hate the midi etc, do you really think they wouldn’t have used the technology in 1969 if it was available? So it’s a complicated interesting thing.
    I do like the biting sound of the SG in JGs hands, but it’s often too thin sounding to me via others use. That was another of his great qualities; getting awesome tone and finding ways to make what ever axe he was using sound better than the same one used by others.
    My only problem with the Gibson’s etc, was they were out of tune too much. Just like some folks can’t take his vocals after “x” (critics can fill in their date) It’s hard for me to listen to out of tune guitars and vocals. Now I’m not talking the occasional instance, but when I notice enough instances during a particular show that it colors my recollections it. Unfortunately, this is why I dont dig 70-71 as much as most. Great set lists, ultimate creative period, amazing versatility (acoustic, pedal steel, and electric all in one night...foe git about it!) but sorry to be a bummer but a lot of that era is outta a tune! The vocals are more noticeable on 2 trac only, as multitrack allows later manipulation and blending; just listen to the awesome new Capital theater releases! I wonder if they’ve used a touch of auto tune to clean em up too?

    Eventually, the advent of the electric tuner would help, but if instruments don’t stay in tune while your playing.....
    This was one of the big reasons Bob and Phil started using Modulus Graphite instruments; The carbon fiber wasn’t as susceptible to extreme temperature shifts etc so they stayed in better tune.
    So it’s a the ole yin yang again; you love the era but have trouble with the tuning etc, or you love the more professionalism, sound, and effects, (and yes I think they got way more professional as years went by) but you don’t dig the R&R Cocaine train energy etc....that’s our boys, never perfect, but always great! Lol
    Speaking of the Bean, I believe it’s more the equipment that your referring too as the purpose of the Bean with its metal neck was to facilitate huge sustain (density of wood does so too, but not as much as metal!) Reverb wouldn’t be a characteristic of an instrument but a product of a reverb unit or setting on the Fender Twin Reverb and ultimately the room. Both kinds would be affected somewhat by recording techniques.
    My understanding of the main reason he used the Beans was to supposedly have more reliability on the road. Not being fully customized you’d be able to carry replacement parts could be easily swapped out on the road, where as the Irwin would have to go to the shop. I don’t dig the Bean as much as I used to, but again, if you plugged it into later years it probably would not have the same issues...
    All that being said, I like the Tiger best! I loved the Wolf, but the Strat has really grown on me over the years, again more because of the hands it was in than it being a Fender. Totally dig the Gibson’s for the more hard rock 60s psychedelic sound, and with the extra distortion you don’t notice when outta tune as much, but as I say it’s hit or miss for me later on, but that’s just me...
    Didn’t dig his later years sound as much but that’s more a product of the tech involved than the instruments.
    I thought contrary to the company line that when they stopped using actual speakers on stage and ran direct even with the speaker simulators it didn’t sound right. I understand totally why they did it, and it did help to address those concerns, but I think it lost some of the naturalism and that perfect R&R blend of clean and dirty etc, but agin, that’s just me....I thought they started getting too convoluted near the end and sounded too plastic? or clean and not enough like a R&R band. I know this is why Doc and others love 71 so much. That hard slightly dirty, not so techie R&R sound that became too clean for some. The sound of a bar band pushing the timeless simple set up of a good tube amp slightly overdriven! Like the sound that sucked me in: Johnny B Goode from Skullfuck! Tasty !
    But my favorite everything GD wise will always be 89-90 because of the versatility to be able to get the whole sonic spectrum, but again, that’s just me...(Interestingly, JGs core infrastructure, unlike Phil and more so Bob, didn’t change that much after he started using the Twin/MC 2300/ JBL E120 set up, just the effects etc changed)
    Ultimately, the truest form of greatness is the ability to plug into anything, and immediately be recognizable because of the signature uniqueness, tone and style!
    JG of course, Hendrix, Page (usually), Clapton (usaully), Santana, Miles, hell even the edge and Slash. You can tell the great ones instantly!
    Lol, ok, sorry, too much coffee and nothing to do here too!

  • Oroborous
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    Uncle Sammy is both humorous and right on about vacuuming being best, but I’m curious if you have a special device? I’ve only tried my household vac with the smallest attachment, which helps, but doesn't really do the job. That’s where I find using the air to blow out the hard to get stuff in conjunction with vacuuming is best, but I need to investigate some sort of small precision vacuum?

    CONEKID: wonder what kind of range it has? I need something like that for prairie dogs, moles and field mice, not to be mistaken with Mayor Field!
    I was looking into water guns but was disappointed by the inherent idiosyncrasies of most, and that the one that would of worked is no longer available except on the black market for too much...
    I don’t want to kill em for various reasons, but I’ve read that if you make them not welcome they will retreat a bit which is all I’m looking for: “damn kids, get off my lawn!”
    I need something quick; as the enemy is lightning fast!, versatile, most importantly accurate with enough range and power to get the job done but not so much I’m killing them? Currently I try and hose em but their so damn quick and smart that I don’t often get a good shot...“Remember, to kill the gofer you have to be the gofer!”

  • daverock
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    That is my favourite Jerry Garcia tone-the one recorded on Live Dead. It seemed quite a popular choice on the West Coast in the late 60s-incredible tones on the same instrument by Barry Melton, and especially John Cippolina..
    The other ingredient in defining sound is the player, of course.
    One of the interesting things about watching a post 1989 Stones show is how often Keith Richards changes guitar within one set. He typically plays various telecasters-some in open G with only 5 strings, to Gibson 335s, to Les Paul Juniors to strats. I think he's got about 500 at home.

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    The SG is in, I had to sleep on this one.

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

ah.. don't pay attention to me. I'm just a little miffed that I thought I had subscribed and low and behold I got shut out of the Ripple year. I have been buying all the archival releases since One From the Vault and haven't skipped a beat. Now I have a hole in my collect and I'm just not gonna buy these singles on the secondary market. Not gonna do it.

So my interest has waned...

What are they? The last one closed quite a few years ago in my town. The nearest one is quite a distance, and as I don't drive now or use public transport if I can help it, online is my only option. It would be better buying them from an independent shop - I used to buy from them when they were here, and always headed in their direction when I went to London. 5/9/77 cost me £99.00 last night, which is about 75 dollars - I'm not sure how much it cost on RSD.

I do remember going to a shop on RSD about 10 years ago. There was a queue outside! Screw that. I'm not keen on the concept of limited editions, either.

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I lost the love for vinyl over thirty odd years ago, when I moved so many times in my younger years, I realized carting a collection of albums from here to there was a real pain. As well, they are finicky, in that the slightest misstep can cause a major skip. Hard to display reasonably too. So many covers get scuffed just by storage (or a “friend” who uses your cover of Traffic’s “Shootout At The Fantasy Factory” to cut up his stash with a razor) I sold my vinyl collection about fifteen years ago, and no regrets. While RSD is a noble idea, I agree with other posters in that great record stores of yesterday don’t exist now, only a few major chains, and you know they don’t carry anything more cutting edge than Beyoncé. People swear there is an incredible audio difference, but honestly, having not the ear of a Brian Wilson or a George Martin, CDs sound pretty awesome to me on a great system. Finally, the price is just prohibitive. You would have to be highly selective in your choices. As I own a few thousand CDs, I find it easy to take a flyer on an artist or band you may be curious about, without the oxygen-sucking price. Used CDs, generally, hold up well. Storage and display is great, and you generally still get the cool cover art and inserts.

So if Dave Lemieux and the good people behind the scenes continue to produce these great CD offerings, including box sets, with top notch production and art work, then RSD to me is just another day on the calendar. Even my kids, late 20s and early 30s in age, prefer to download their collections, for all the reasons I listed for vinyl.

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No local record shops here either.. it's a couple hour drive to the closest one.

I befriended the owner of a (not really) local record store a few years back. Each year I ask him if it would be possible to get a copy of the Deads offering and drop it in the mail and promise to keep it on the down low. So far so good.. I don't think it violates ethics, I am supporting a local shop. It sure does save a lot of fossil fuel, time and money. I just can't get there in person.

Still.. all this is on the down low, I would hate to get anyone in trouble and I would hate to miss 5/9/77 in all it's vinyl glory.

Gave a great rest of the week all.. now what to play? Got some chores to do...

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That's right, the greatest record store of all time, type in Village Music Mill Valley to read about it. We used to go there and spend hours in there, you could spend lots of time just looking at all the cool stuff on the walls. I remember there was a John Cipolina guitar hung up on the wall. We would go across the street and have pizza and beer when we were done, then we would drive down to Down Home Music in El Cerrito another great record store. Great times!

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Does anyone think we're going to get another box set in 2020? Im pulling for a 72 fox run box!

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Someone mentioned a June July 73 GD & ABB box set, that would be a holy grail for sure and id Actually prefer that over the 72 fox run box but dont see it happening right now, but who knows!

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My local record shop closed 30 plus years ago, I was always keen to visit and have a good browse, a lot of the records that I was after had been deleted in the record companies infinite wisdom at the time. However, I could browse in there for hours with my pals and always come away with something off my radar.
Fast forward now and the Record companies are using the RSD as a way of shafting music fans into spending a lot of money on an exclusive limited edition of some shelved recording that was not deemed fit for release at the time, or a reissue of a great recording on some coloured vinyl, from a sub-standard recording of the original.
It's nice to see an issue of a recording that was only previously available on CD, but it is always at an inflated price and you have the anxiety of trying to find a copy in a far-flung record shop or a scalper on the internet. I have brought some records on RSD, but it was several years back. If you really want something, I find it turns up eventually one day at a price that is more than pleasing after all the hype of the day.
Apologies for the rant, but experience has taught me, buyer beware, I tend to look at what I have got, and be thankful rather than what I haven't got, even though we all need more GD recordings, we are a lucky lot.

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Billy - I used to go to Village pretty often, the inventory was incredible; got a bunch 40's Grand Ole Opry tapes there, and lotsa' Motown. Down Home Music is still open.

No, it doesn't look like there will be a second box set for 2020, which is a bummer. DL mentioned Norman is currently working on the 2021 box set. ☹️

I like your Wall of Sound pic.

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There was a David Lemieux special on SiriusXM today at 4. The topic, the American Beauty 50th Anniversary Box Set which was apparently AB + 2/18/71 at the Capitol Theatre.

So that is the late in the year item they were working on on one of his seaside chats that lots of people assumed was going to be the second box set.

..at least that's my take on events.

I have no friggin' clue what the 2021 box set might be. This one is a pure mystery.

Fox on the run
You scream and everybody comes a-runnin'

Anyone else remember that lil tune?

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....if they toured with Spinal Tap, I would totally mail order.

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Im thinking maybe the bonus material for Daves 37 could be the playin sandwich from 4/21/78 in lexington, Playin>drumz>Stella Blue>Truckin>Playin!

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Well I never fail to learn something on this board! Thank you DeadHead Brewer for setting me straight on that one...guess it makes sense, and with a perfect year to end it on 2021...something we can all hopefully look forward to I guess.

Honestly, I had no idea the dead only released 21 singles....that said, I still wish they would continue for reasons previous mentioned...other studio cuts or something on 7!inch singles, but I digress...

Again, thanks for the GD knowledge...always good thing to have 😉

Oh and...just finished the vinyl 05/09/77....sweet sounding indeed!! Get it now before it’s really over priced. I still regret my decisions on the Cornell Vinyl which is very difficult to find at this point.

Be well all!

KCJ

Sorry...almost forgot....Dave Rock! Gong, Live at Sheffield....this is some out there stuff!!! My copy is the red and green vinyl. I especially like Side D Titicaca (Live at Glastonbury 89). That one hits the sweet spot for me!

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Early on, I was thinking 4/16 but since have been converted to 4/18 being the better choice to round out the set. April '78 really floats my boat. Some days that 4/24 Terrapin>Drums>NFA sequence is what I just HAVE to hear...

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I haven't subscribed, but half way through 5/14 I am beginning to wonder if I should after all. Not got to the second set, but the first is excellent. Maybe I'll go for a la carte on this one, in anticipation of more late period shows to follow. Maybe I should just be happy with the 78 shows I've already got. Its a conundrum.

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And the musical box...

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Fox on the Run Ace-ified

https://youtu.be/iUnS_ZKPNbA

Love this guy. Did you pick up his Anomaly album Mind Left Body? Way better than I ever expected. Closest thing to his '78 solo record he's ever done IMHO.

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I've got the full set which features Titicaca-Live at Glastonbury 1989. If you fancy a copy its no problem.
Curiously I actually have the guitar its played on. I bought it off Daevid Allen about 23 years ago. It doesn't play so well, but hey..

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Where did that come from? It looks like they will be putting out an unsigned version; just give them your e-mail address for in stock notification. If anybody wants to sell, $$$, send me a PM.

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Well, we've had a '76 box this year, '89-'91 last year, '73-'74 in 2018, and before that plenty of '77 and '78.

This year we got 'bonus' '71 shows.

Using very loose logic, '72 would indeed seem to be the year whose time is nigh. Especially as Dave could tee up a 6-show box and not really dent the fall '72 supply.

I gotta dream, based on external, er, events....

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I picture Dave down in his dungeon reading these threads yelping out a maniacal, evil laugh every time someone makes a box set suggestion.. then doing the opposite purely for spite. Evil laughs waft into the living space upstairs as he squashes our hopes and dreams for that perfect release.

I picture Mrs. Dave pacing pensively upstairs unsure what to do when he gets this way.. Clearly too much evil to confront, the risks too high.

I don't think Dave knows just how fragile we are. He should just buckle and give HF his '72 box before things get much worse. These are dire times Dave, why do you mock us so!! Lock up your evil lair for good and give us a string of Fall '72 monster shows. It would be good for us and good for you.

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36 years ago today I was at the Berkeley Community Theatre for a another cool show, fun city, what a great run of shows!

...actually spinning 10/30/84 now. It's been a pretty tasty ride; I'm about to get into the Eyes at this particular moment. Strong playing.
Right on.

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If anyone is interested Strange Attractor are putting out an autobiography

Muse, Odalisque, Handmaiden
A Girl’s Life in The Incredible String Band
by Rose Simpson

The limited hardback version is due in November and a paperback in December.

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Right up my alley! I've been doing all kinds of 1984 since Proudfoot sent me scurrying toward 10/08/84. Just now loaded up 10/28/84, then came on here to find that others were of the same mind. I've not spent much time in 1984 before this DaP, but have to admit that I'm loving it. To me, when Jerry solos in 1983 and 1984 it's very personal and introverted and unique; he's not just trying to play what fits or what the song is expecting from him.

Second box in 2020--Dave specifically stated that there was one on tap, but perhaps Rhino pointed out just how much extra stuff (WD and AB) they were putting out this year, or decided that with so many people suffering financially that they should shelve the project? My bet for the next box is still the remainder of the February Capitol run. They've obviously been spending some time with that batch of multi-tracks . . .

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I cannot possibly be more on board with a 1972 box set. Personally I'd like at least 10 shows, but realistically I'll settle for 6.

Or even better, I'd love it if they went with my "Dark Star Constellation" proposal, which is a 20 show Super Box with all Dark Star shows; at least 8 would come from 1972. I can picture the box.... Black with white dots all over it and a stealy constellation on the top or in the middle or something. They need to strike while the Iron's hot. IMHO I think Dead and Co has made the Grateful Dead more popular than any time since the Dick's Picks series ended. For cumulative sales I think they need to release a big bundle right now or risk losing out down the road.

The Super Box has paid off twice now. It was four years between Europe '72 and 30 Trips Around the Sun. I can't think of a better concept to market a large quantity of shows at this point. I emailed both Dave and Dr. Rhino last year. We are due for Super Box....

I, too, have been dragged down the '84 BCT run thanks to Billy the Kid. I brought up 10/30 on the Pick of the Day thread yesterday. Sometimes I have a itch that needs scratching, something off the beaten path. 10/30 did the trick.

Plus, I have been in the mood for some alternative Scarlet Fires. Something about the mountains of peppers I chopped yesterday. My hands still sting a bit and I dare not rub my eyes, 14 hours later.

Anyway.. it's funny what inspires us here.

JIM:...LOL, staring Montgomery Burns as David Lemieux!

SWEET: wow there’s a fun blast from the past! Also Barroom Blitz and Little Willy, too funny...

KEITHFAN: DS Constellation box....sign me up!

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Came back from being out of town to several releases on sale, GarciaLive, the 45's and Dave's. Glad I didn't get shut out of any of them.

Is this the last year for the 45's? That went fast.

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Does anyone know if the rfk 1989 box is actually still available? Ive sent a couple emails to customer service with no answer... its still available for purchase on the website but on the thread someone said they had ordered it in june and as of late August they still hadn't received it...

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I believe it's still available. If you go to the store and type it in the search box it brings you to a part of Dead.net even they don't know about.

Clearly the brainchild of their crack marketing team..
"......hey, lets hide the RFK page so nobody can find it or buy the box. This is sure create a feeling of exclusivity and create demand for this wonderful piece of music the likes the world has never seen..."

(and by CRACK marketing team, I mean clearly they have been smoking too much crack)

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Somehow I ended up with 2. I would entertain trade offers, but for some reason I have a feeling this one will be staying in the plastic for quite a while. The sound is fantastic on it, but I would venture it's quite a bit 'Brenty'.

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Easy does it, Keithfan! A "SuperBox" of 30 discs??? My god man, pass me whatever you're toking... But don't put some gold nuggets out of reach for the poor slobs among us (that's me).

And JimInMD, I actually, involuntarily, laughed a little evil laugh when you mentioned "evil laughter" with the image of Dave making counterintuitive choices based on our naked begging.

Cuz NOW I'm calling for a complete run of shows from August 1986............. TAKE THAT!!!

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Boy, this is tough, but I'm going to vote for Europe 72 the Complete Recordings as my favorite box set. Fillmore West complete recordings was neck and neck and it was an extremely tough choice, but in the end Europe 72 box offered more variety and more volume and the Dead were better musicians in 1972 than they were in 1969 individually and as a group.

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I love the "super box" idea Keithfan! Mmmm Dark Star. Even the title is perfect.

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... it's full of stars!

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In case some folks love this particular show (and it has always been listed as a favorite of many), I won't poop in someone's Cheerios by posting the date. We each have our own favorites and not-so-favorites, but I just can't understand this concert, and it isn't a runt that was lumped in with seven others in a box. And it's not one of those shows where you think, "SOMEONE (not me) will enjoy this because of ____". It's on my brain because I just listened to it again yesterday, thinking that maybe THIS time I would "get it". Nope.

PM me if you're bored and want to know which show I highly question being selected for release. As a bonus I will let you know which other highly-regarded concert I cannot understand. Hint--I've been doing anniversary shows of late . . .

p.s. My son just came in with the mail, and AB50 arrived from Bull Moose!

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I have a savings account I opened after my girlfriend and me got in a debate over buying 30 Trips back in 2015. 10 bucks comes right out of my paycheck automatically. I have over 2K in it, so I'm all-in for the Super Box.

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I, too, will bow down to our Dark Star Box Overloards at any given moment.

Here:
Take My Money,
Kindly.

#KeithFan2020

Sixtus

The Internet Archive currently has a donor who will match donations 2:1. I know some of you are contributors and this might be a great way for your donations to go "FURTHER".

Also, if you are in the market for some fine headphones, HiFiMan has a great clearance sale going on. Check it out if interested...https://store.hifiman.com/2020-clearance-sale. I've been enjoying their products for quite some time.

Still listening to Dave's 35. It really grew on me. Looking forward to 36 and beyond...
Go to Nassau and the PNW 3cd set have been in heavy rotation

Pulling out Dick's Picks #2 for my annual Halloween listen - been doing it for years.

Last 5/6
Miles Davis - The Lost Septet
Miles Davis - The Lost Quintet
Band of Heathens - Stranger
Jason Isbell & The 400 Unit - Reunions
Little Feat - Waiting for Columbus
Eric Burden & The Animals - Retrospective

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