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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Proceed Plan Dakota…………………

    Hey hey hey rockers!!

    Pick Of The Day: Winterland March 24 1971 (Benefit for the Sufi Choir Of San Francisco)

    Code Seminole, check 3 check 3 check 1, Red Dog over……………

    The yang to the yin of March 3. The band may have started the month off low, but they ended high. Yes they may have forgotten an organ, but this fine and underrated show is much crunchier and more expansive than what came three weeks previously.

    The Skull Album Johnny B Goode, so early in the first set. Top notch grease, especially the crispy Hard To Handle. A big jam sequence in the first set highlighted by an excellent Other One. How and why did they end the set with such a hard rockin’ Beat It On Down The line? Solid NFA suite to close set two, followed by a nice Uncle John’s Band encore.

    I know not everybody digs 1971 shows, but this one is worth a listen, and would make a nice official release some day……..

    Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

    Rock on!

    Doc
    Where's your will to be weird?

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    Perhaps the hardest part was convincing Phil some of this stuff is too good to fret over sound imperfections.

    I have to imagine giving Latvala reign of the vault was akin to giving a kid the key to the candy store. We have Dick to thank for most of what's out there that was not officially released (more important 30 years ago than today), but sometimes I wonder what things would be like if he wasn't as generous a head as he was. We would be enslaved, waiting for the next release. ...but imagine the elation of the great surprises that await....

    Anyway.. super busy which puts me in lurking mode, I check in when I can. Sorry for that. My extra credit has been a bit of Dec 73. Such a long, long time to be gone and a short time to be there.

    Big rain event here now.. a hard rain's gonna fall.

  • 1stshow70878
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    To 1985 - Dick Latvala starts work as the GD archivist.
    It must have been an overwhelming task.
    The new music format called compact disc is here.
    He has his list started, likely from memory and his own tape collection.
    What would we tell him is THE most important, or best, way to start the releases?
    Assume it's all there in the vault and good enough to release, just to make it easier.
    I'm ready back then as my wife just bought us our first CD player. Quite expensive and so are the CDs. $17.99 for a single when LPs are still under $10.00. I'm still a GD novitiate and have no clue having only attended seven shows ('78-'80).
    Cheers
    Oh, and is there a list (Dave L.?) of Dick's potentials that have not been released? Or is that now part of the Dave's list that Oro cites from time to time?
    (Oro - I vote for the live GO since it's the one I know)

    Edit: Only three of those If I Had The World To Give. First is the Aug. 30-31,1978 that I keep asking for. I'll check that out Oro. Was the Standing On The Moon of it's era.

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    Sorry 1st show, forgot twice, ha! Thank you, Yes very nice DP 20 review and I concur: all is very good, but perhaps the first shows playing trumps the second shows sexy set list? And is that not one of the best (for last) Charlie’s?
    Great song, but being difficult sometimes it could be a bit Sloopy, but this one shines.
    So awesome we have all these gems to contemplate, hopefully, for years to come!
    Onward

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    Hey OB, I don't think we ever hit this one. I will check it out tomorrow. Thanks.

    Nice review on Dicks 20 Firstshow. I liked both shows quit a bit, but yes, that second set of Capital Centre is hot!

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    Not sure if we did this one, if so, I forgot to mark it down. (and please excuse).
    Perhaps I tried/started at work but wasn’t able?
    Anywho, looks interesting and I think I might have heard locals at the time who went speak highly off it?
    Unfortunately I was still too young, at least according to those who supplied food and shelter ahem—to be going “all the way” to Cleveland lol.

    EDIT: POTD MUST LISTEN!
    If nothing else, you MUST hear this IIHTWTG!
    Really, the whole second set as it’s very unusual, but the Playing sandwich is like a whole separate show, and the meat (Shakedown>World to Give) is simply delicious and should be enjoyed!
    World to Give, another of those weird awesome but much too brief Jer tunes, and this one is phuching awesome!

    Overall, the show is sorta all over the place. Especially the recording.
    1/2 Step>Franks opener is always nice, but this is average and suffers from weird technical anomalies. Next few perhaps underwhelming? It’s all good, just doesn’t seem to have the usual 78 spark. PEGGY O is always welcome but prefer Goldilocks version: not too slow, or not too fast. This one perhaps a tad too slow? Decent Lightning/Supplication to round out the first. NOTE: Bob is present throughout and seems fine thus far.
    Why dat? Weeeeeeeelllll, depending on who you ask this was either the worst show or one of the best lol.
    Also much todo about Bob being sick, with some accounts claiming: he missed the set opening jams (he did); to he missed jam, came out to begin playing and left again until end of show…
    Well, inspector Clue so says you can hear him throughout the whole show on tape, except the aforementioned Jam>Drums>Jam.
    The jam sounds more like waiting around then the spectacular inprov mind melt that some describe? Though I bet it was interesting there in real time. Bob is back for the era typical slow Jack a Roe, but then things seem to really step up.
    PITB seems more energetic and though not a pre hiatus beast, nice just the same, then…., then they slide into an awesome Shakedown to take it higher, but then! Jer bear breaks out the gold, it’s gold i tell ya! and JG wants to give it to you! The last of three World to Gives is just plain sweeeeetttt!
    By the time they segway back into the PITB reprise you can feel the relief? definitely positive vibes, like phew, we made it!
    The band, the crowd, even the sometimes inconsistent recording is on when it matters. Though the recording does slip into an extended section of aud, it almost helps this vibe! Plus, sometimes it’s nice to feel that in the midst happy communal energy often missing in boards. So big A&A to end it and the crowd loves it. No encore guessing due to time?
    So I wouldn’t call it top shelf, but cool, unique interesting show, which don’t know bout you, but that’s why I come here to explore. Definitely not the worst show, in fact, as often the case, the adversity helps step things up and makes the show. When the going gets weird…indeed.

    Ha, told myself only one show today but I’m already into the next night in good ole Crotchfester. 11/21/78
    Sounds like typical crazy Rochester scene, kinda like the Spectrum lol. But they sure sound more like usual fall 78 so far (Big River…) recording too, not a Beatty, but so far so good.
    If only I’d been just a wee bit older, this might of been my first?
    That’s ok, I’ll take the first I did get lol.

    Ok, onward, must be fired up after sleeping with the Elk! Literally, several slept within feet of us just outside our bedroom window last night! Cool sheet Mon!

  • 1stshow70878
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    Had lots of time yesterday afternoon and this morning with steady drizzle coming down here. Gloomy the last month or more and no big accumulations but over our average moisture already for this time of year. San Juan basin snow pack at 150% of normal. Best in the state?
    The Cap. Center, Landover beats War Mem. Syracuse hands down in my book. Expected more out of 9-28-76 with that set list and continuous 2nd set. Just didn't have the energy that 9-25-76 has. I noticed that in 2001 only two years into Dave L. taking over from Dick there were no liner notes yet from Dave. But that letter from a Deadhead from 1976 was prescient. The idea came from Relix where he read the Dead were "toying with the idea" of the eventual Dick's/Dave's series' which didn't come about until 1993(?). Man, can you imagine how many more we would have had? (edit: wouldn't have worked until CDs came out around 1984, wouldn't have put them on tapes and vinyl would have been economically unviable?) Anywho the start of 9-25 is so up-tempo with Keith well up in the mix and twinkling marvelously. The Travis Bean has such a vocal quality to it on this Cassidy. Not so great on Loser where it didn't have that chippy sound that song is known for. Keith and Jerry so pretty on Peggy-O. Nice long set lists still then. Nice stretched versions of Let It Grow and Sugaree for a solid set closer. 2nd set is just exactly perfect and whoever coined the disco dead slur just isn't reading it right. It's more like Dancin' Dead with Jerry dancing up and down the frets on Dancin' like a wild man. I mean they're a dance band, right? I know I would have been boogying to that! Audience has minds blown when Cosmic Charlie appears and there is so much newly reworked material in this era. Stand alone Scarlet is TIGHT! The drummers seem to be driving the bus by then coming on strong. And where Fire would usually come in it could have gone anywhere. That's the game isn't it? Guessing where they're going in real time? Do they even know? The St. Stephen samwich has Jerry saying "Yes it does" to one man gathers what another man spills. Smooth vocal harmonies and a Phil moment stomping with the drummers coming back into the St. Steve reprise. And a tight Sugar Mag finish. This has the '77 deliberateness but great energy too. So imagine my surprise when I found 9-28-76 a little slower and predictably mellow. Not that there's anything wrong with a great show with those characteristics but I was ready for a mind blower after reading the set list. The true tango was a real surprise though and overall a fantastic two show release. A fair number of repeats only three days apart but it didn't influence my opinion like the tempo comparison did. Glad we are still getting those two show releases every once in a while. Thanks Dave L.! And thanks to the POTD posse for suggesting these. Onward and upward. Got the jones for JGB - Don't Let Go from 5-21-76 now.
    Cheers
    It's not on us, Dennis will buy anything. Bless his heart!

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    Hit 3/20/70 for a lil snack, now I need to hear some 80s to regain my energy as I’m pooped after digging first round of Sierra cement. Plenty of moisture today brother vguy and you other desert rats.

    3/20/70 was ok. Not much of a HTH jam. Weird, no weir acoustic numbers? Cool acoustic set though, lil Jer fest going on with an always welcome Katie Mae! Electric set alright, but not mind blowing. Pig has some extra spunk in LL: “ put your hand in her pocket, take out her Id and make sure she’s 18” etc.
    Viola always cool, but so so version? Not the best 70 we’ve heard, but not bad for a 53 year old boot.

    10/17/83: another coulda, woulda, shoulda.
    Always wondered what this one was about?
    EDIT: yep, wish things woulda worked out and I made it to this one, sigh.
    So what do you do after 2 Stephen comebacks and a Revolution.
    Just the usual GOGD! Nice Sugaree to open a solid first set. Status quo fall 83 second but with the return of Lay Me Down, and the second Revolution for an encore. Really enjoyed this show, mostly good recording though I think levels during peaks might occasionally have been a tad hot. Perhaps not the tape level, but some instruments being fed to the tape? Fall 83, another sorta under the radar excellent tour. Guess that’s why there’s been four shows officially released from it so far. Check it out!

    Buckeye 88: I’ve had a tape that I combined the first set with the 3 new songs. I think I did that because I didn’t think (at the time) the second was worth another tape? I’ll have to hear the whole show again…

    Yeah Dennis! I NEED to know! tap, tap, tap (sound of foot tapping) lol
    Look forward to more GO reviews. Need to acquire some more new music, but only so many spots on the team, so might wait and see. Mostly wondering if I should get the studio or live album?

    Ok, this Sugaree from 10/17 is jumping. Get coffeed up, cop some 83 energy…then probably time to shovel again ; )

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    had a long post last night that got shut down because of perceived lynx (there weren't any - booo). below is abbreviated

    1st Show - I have the GO studio on vinyl, bought it as a cut out ca. 45 years ago probably same time as Heavy Traffic and undoubtedly because Winwood was on it. I had been confused by your references to a 2 lp release until ConeKid solved the mystery. Turntable is mothballed so streamed it (2x/3x) through the Sennheisers after my post last week (and again last night). first listen in a few years. Really enjoyed it, particularly the spacier passages. Then streamed previous album by Yamashta (no Winwood), Raindog, and dug that also. Where my head was at. I'll get to the live album soon.

    Want to highlight again an obscure Wayne Shorter album, Moto Grosso Feio, 2 tracks in particular, title track and Iska. very cool and out there. Turned onto that by aquarium drunkard. Cool discussion there, as always.

    Also Dave might be listening in (surprise). After my recent comments re summer '88 and fact that most of Buckeye wasn't circulating in soundboard (just a chunk of Set 1 i think), he has Set II predrumz on Tapers Section this week. Has Set I from next show Pittsburgh on Jam of the Week. Listened to the Buckeye segment last night. Victim (3rd time)>Blow Away (2nd time)>Foolish Heart (3rd time)>Terrapin>Drumz. Of much greater interest to me now (I was sorta/kinda fried from Alpine). Def would like to hear rest of the show. What Dave served up is a straight board, not an ultramatrix. Also none of the panning back and forth across stage that is so prominent on the board portion of the Alpine '88 run ultramatrixes. Buckeye was 1st show for several younger folk that I knew at the time. They had a gas.

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    GO Dennis!

    I hope you read my review(s) beforehand.
    Where is BC? I'm not taking the heat alone here.
    The pressure! Give us a review when you get them Dennis.
    Inquiring minds, like Oro, want to know.
    Cheers

    Firing up DiP 20 Syracuse 9-28-76 now. Only got through Landover 9-25 yesterday. Holding the review until I've got both done. But dang, forgot that disc 4 is one > solid > jam > ? Orange Tango indeed!

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Game on...

If we could go back in time.. I would love it if they cleaned up the vocals on Dark Star for this one. Minor gripe, because its quite good.. anyway, game on.

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.....saw them 13 times that year.
It was a good year.
On board for Miami tomorrow.
The 10.25.89 show.
Hell In A Bucket->
Sugaree
Little Light
FOTD
Memphis Blues
Cold Rain and Snow->
Picasso Moon
Deal
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PITB ->
UJB ->
PITB->
Standing On The Moon->
Truckin' ->
Drumz->
Gimme' Some Loving->
Wharf Rat ->
Sugar Mags
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US Blues
Underrated
Better fire this up now. Its 8 o'clock currently. I've got time.

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When I was Nineteen
It was a very good year...

I couldn't resist, but I'll be Frank & spare ya any further reference to ole Blue Eyes. (I'll be Frank, get it?!? hahaha)
I've always enjoyed hearing what was happening in 1989 and dig it.

Nice recap OB, fun times!
I especially liked the line - "the dream is weakening".
LOL at that as I peaked at the post drums set list and saw the death of a dream there.

Good Stuff!

And I second VGuy that 10/25/89 show is killer, it's the Light before the Dark. Kinda cool that they were using that PITB > UJB > PITB as a vehicle during the Dark Star breakouts. And I mentioned this before but the Set List Heads must've been holding their breath after that sequence on 10/25.

5/26/72 deserves big praise and accolades. Top 10 show?
I'd go into it, but it's Monday and too much to do. The only Set 1 NFA > GDTRFB > NFA, and hearing the crowd get it started is a real treat. And... Is this the first PITB that goes outside of the 7/4 realm, based on what I was reading in the Taper's Compendium they're saying yes. That's Huge! This is quintessential Europe 72 literally.

And, '78 has been on my radar since the DaP V37 announcement.
Yesterday stumbled into 1/11/78, what a ripper.
Check out the Let It Grow on that puppy. Holy Shit!

Alright, time to get moving.

Catch ya later.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5HJxHTm5M

Well, not quite forty below, but went from like 65 on Saturday to 6 last night and a foot of heavy snow, ugh...it’s too early for this! Luckily, I don’t need to go any where so I’m going for the hatrick today!
-10/22/89
- 10/23/89
- 10/26/89 hopefully...
Wish me luck, onward!
Stay warm! and safe!

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.....i hear ya. Saturdays high here in Vegas was 88 degrees. Todays high? 58. 30 degree swing in 2 days.
Checked out Miami 10.25.89 yesterday. Never heard it before and it was pretty spectacular. 10.26.89 today.
I need some gloves!!

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Thanks to all you Deadheads posting here. I've learned a lot about the band and their music from you. There is always something new to learn or a new show to check out. I've been collecting their music for many years now and just love this band and their variety. There are a lot of good folks posting on here. It's generally a positive place to hang out and needed in these days.

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10/25, it was a Wednesday, a beautiful fall day in south Florida, we drove down from Orlando and arrived at the Arena about 5:00 in the afternoon. By this time, the weather had turned to partly cloudy to cloudy with a bit of a breeze, still a beautiful day in the mid eighties. As we navigated about and felt around to find out way inside, the security was tight, they were searching everyone and taking away any and all party favors that they found and just threw them into a large grey trash can, which was getting quite full by the time we got to the pat down area. We had brought some shrooms with us from out favorite field that we had picked the weekend before the show, which was rare as usually in Florida about this time the shrooms fields kinda dried up by end of September. It was a rainy season and we were still picking by mid October. The picking was sparse, but very potent yields as was usually the case from this particular field.
Back at the pat down area, we saw as we approached that there was no way we were going to get the shrooms into the arena, so we consumed them right there in line, to the delight of some deadhead onlookers, who wished they had some, but alas, we only had just enough.
Entering the arena, it was our first time visiting the house of the Miami Heat, and found it very well laid out, with short lines for the numerous concession stands and long lines for the less than enough restrooms. We get to our seats, which this night was just to the right of Jerry and up about 25 rows. A great seat for sure.
Then the shrooms started to take hold, the sets starts with Hell in a Bucket, not one of my favorites but it gets us going into Sugaree, a good version from my notes altho by this time, the shrooms had me sitting way back in my seat. I don't recall much from the rest of the set, although I so remember a trippy Picasso moon right before an awesome Deal to close out the set.
The lights come up for the set break and according to my notes from that day, I was off as it looks like a series of scratching's and doodles until the lights finally go out, a big smiley face on the note page. Then, the second set starts off with Playin in the band, which runs into Uncle John's band back into playing. Wow, then a beautiful reading of Standing on the Moon from Jerry and I could relate, looking down from our 25th or so row seat, we were literally above the band and looking down from space, awesome. Trucking takes us into drums>space, more doodles on the note pad then Gimme some loving which had us all up dancing. This slid into a beautiful Wharf Rat which is one on my favorites. No more notes on the pad as the end of the show was a dance fest, with sugar mag and US blues ending the show. Back thru the maze of faces and bodies to the car and off to our hotel room, where we partied until dawn. If it wasn't for the notes I took, I would not have remembered any of the nights festivities due to the shrooms.
10/26, got a late start as laid in bed until the maid came and asked us if the room needed cleaning, we said "no" and decided to get up and head out for some breakfast, in the mid afternoon. Feeling a bit spacey from the night before and with no party favors to take us into the night we just hung out until about 6 pm a deadhead in a long trench coat approaches our little group and opens his coat to reveal t shirts and stickers and other paraphernalia, we weren't buying until I asked about doses and he said "Blue Unicorns" Score. Finally they open the doors and we get past pat down area with no problems and into the arena we sail again for the final night of the tour. It's Thursday and not as warm as the night before, a breeze blows from the ocean and it feels a bit like fall.
We are all hoping for a blow out show due to it being the last show of the tour and we were not denied, a truly remarkable experience was about to unfold before our very eyes. Again, we had great seats, mid floor, about half way back.
The night starts out with Foolish Heart, again, a favorite of mine and Jerry stretches' it out a bit at the end to everyone's delight, oh boy, Jerry's on. Notebook is blank so can't remember the next song but I do remember Stagger Lee with Jerry's voice starting to crumble, a couple Bobby cowboy songs and then Jerry again slurring his words thru Brown Eyed Women, a great version even with Jerry's voice starting to sound like as Blair Jackson put it "he had gargled with razor blades". Here's were it starts to get a bit dark, Victim or the Crime is next with Bobby singing like it's the end or the world, some real spacey sounds coming from Brent and Jerry into a mean Don't ease me in with Brent again taking it to the max as he slams the keyboards over and over again during the song. My notebook has Don't ease in big letters and it was a great version.
The lights come up again blinding us all as the unicorns had started to take hold by this time and I just wanted the lights to go out, as they were very bright it seemed.
We're off by now and the second set starts with a trippy Estimated Prophet into a Blow away that again has Brent taking it to the max, a great night for him. Then the first notes of Dark Star, the crown goes nuts, it was my first and only dark star and the notebook is now empty of any notes. It was dark, a very dark dark star, unbelievable sounds coming from everyone, Mickey and Billy banging on the stage to make a sound like stars exploding or comets coming apart at the seams, very cool, Mickey using the Beam throughout the entire suite, not as the main instrument, but as a side note, hitting and plucking and stroking the strings like some kind of devilish harp from beyond the grave. Truly amazing. The wheel comes out of space and it is the light at the end of the tunnel, a slow teasing by Jerry until it finally erupts into it's magnificent colorful spinning prism. Then another dark turn with All along the Watchtower, into a beautifully dark Stella. Jerry leaves nothing behind with this performance and I/we are spellbound. NFA finishes us off and tries to bring us all back from the dark reaches of space but it is a little late for that. Then the encore as they all stand on the end of the stage and sign us a beautiful we bid you goodnight.
Again, wow, spent the rest of the night talking about the masterpiece of psychedelia we had just witnessed, wishing we had a tape of the evenings performance right then. The drive home the next day was surreal almost dream like as I could not get the previous evenings magic out of my head, where it stayed for several days, mind truly blown.
Starting in 85, I had started to take notes of song selections and other occurrences and performance notes from the evenings festivities at Dead shows, so glad I took notes this weekend, or I would not remember as much as this, but I wrote it all down, not knowing that one day I would again read about a legendary night in Dead history.
Happy Halloween everyone!!!

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Unkle Sam thanks for sharing that really cool account of your experience!

If you don't have these shows in your collection let us know, we can send you some links so you can listen.

This Set 1 is hitting the spot, but I'm heading into the darkness as Victim or the Crime twists and turns > Killer transition to Don't Ease!

Far out!
Happy Halloween indeed.... ha ha ha ha! (insert evil laughing sound effect, reverb & echo maybe some flanging here)

And welcome MARINSMITH glad you're here, thanks for hanging!

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Great review-makes me wish I had been there. I have just listened to the first set of 10/26 up to the end of Victim-as you say, some great versions of songs.

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Great tale from the void. Many thanks.

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They also happen to be consecutive shows in 30Trips

10-26-89
10-27-90

I jumped the gun and did both shows this weekend. Enjoyed both. Had them on cassette and was happy to see them included in 30Trips. Grate shows.

Grate story Unkle.

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Welcome Marin Smith, this is a fun place to hang out.

The more I listen to 10/26/89, the more I like it. Buy me a gin fizz love. Fun first set. Funky Dark Star. October 89 was hot.

Conekid gives us 10/27/90 for tomorrow.

Stay well out there.

Hang in there Oroborous, it will probably be 70 out there next week right?

Nice stories! ....since we had no choice we ate em...nice work! Though may I suggest the ole shoe trick lol.

DV, I hope your right, but unfortunately I have to go today and it was below zero last I checked! At least no snow...

Probably save 10/27 for a day I can listen at home.

Ran through 10/22&23/89 yesterday and made it 2/3 of 10/26. So 2 goals and an assist, not a pure DHB hatrick.
Will give 10/26 a proper listen when time allows.
Will give 22&23 a few more runs before I review...initial thoughts are 22 meh, 23 good....
Really looking forward to 10/25/89 as I’ve never heard it and it got the vguy thumbs up so.....

Ok, have to try and find the damn Buffalo Hyde Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

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Just finished... Going to hit up Indy State Fair anniversary show from 73... Juicy second set!!!! Bob t

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Was in the mood for a nice Scarlet Fire this morning for a quick palate cleanse.. so I hit the Spectrum '84, then read Billy's 84 BCT comment and am continuing down this rabbit hole for a bit.

https://archive.org/details/gd84-10-30.mixed.ladner.22256.sbeok.shnf/gd…

Pretty crisp board for the era, sounds better to me than the Spectrum show. I had not listened to it before.

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As we entered the turnstiles in the Zenith, our tickets where ripped and the next person placed squares in our hands. TV Screen Turbulence show from there on out as I had already partaken of some outside along with some wine and baguettes. The China>Rider is superb and a nice Crazy>Playin' - First Set was well played with nice song selection. Standing in the pouring rain the next day for tix's for the added night was not the most fun I had on this trip but another strong night.

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When I realize that there is another 30 Trips anniversary listen today.
10-27-79
How could I forget that? Loved that show on cassette and when I read the 30 Trips announcement was super psyched (still a usable word) that 10-27-79 was picked.
So now, do I jump shows, or stay where I’m at?
Think I’ll save 10-27-79 for Friday when I can really get tuned in.

Which one of you beer fiends was talking about Toppling Goliath a few months ago?

Well, it has arrived at the beer store I frequent.
I grabbed Pseudo Sue since I like Pale Ale.
Pretty tasty. Similar to a local brewery here, but several $’s cheaper.
Will grab some other flavors nest time at the store.

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Anyone want to go and check this out today so we can do what Phil says?? End of 2/24/74 after It's All Over Now Baby Blue... Check out the only pre-76 Cassidy!!! and the last Playing>UJB>Morning Dew>UJB>Playin sandwich..... mmmm open face club sandwich.... bob t

Edit... and the first Scarlet.... oops

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That was me ICECRMCNKD......and Yes, It is good stuff!!! The Pseudo Sue is my favorite. King Sue is also good, but $3.00 more at $14.99 in my local liquor store, so i usually stick with the Pseudo.

Another one that we have starting getting is GFJ IPA from Sun King Brewery in Indianapolis. It's also very tasty!!!

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Scores! Didn’t end up having to go out in the cold yesterday and had no pressing honey dos, so went hard on 10/22&23/89, in fact had such an enjoyable day, including basking in the toasty afternoon sun while only 24 outside, that I broke regulation and had a couple weekday beers! But I’m gettin ahead of myself, so on to Charlotte.

Have never heard these shows so was curious to hear them. Charlotte seems to be one of these off the grid venues, but repeatedly I’ve been pleased and surprised if and when I make the electronic journey there. And these were no different.

The sneaky chameleon tour continues. This show is a prime example of this both on paper, and after first time listen: it might not seem like much at first, but upon further review it shows its true colors!
Both times I listened to this I loved the first set. Like much of this tour they come out energetic but not manic, with spirited versions of Touch O and Minglewood, 2nd of 2 on the tour. Followed by a decent Half Step, the 2nd of only 2 on the tour, with a good Queen Jane, another 2 of only 2, Ramble On Rose 2/2, and an always fun BIODTL, the only version this tour, and only the 2nd of 3 for the year, with the previous being on 2/12/89! Another good spacey/midi Birdsong (for good or for ill depending on how your pleasure tends?) A spirited JBG closes the set out, only the 5th of 6 for the year and a nice first set closing change up.
So we see again that below the surface lies more. This has been a reoccurrence on this tour totally facilitated by multiple listens of the tour in order. Very enlightening.

Set 2 perhaps even more so...after first time I was nonplussed. It had moments, and it had moments, the kind that might negate box use? Blow Away being the main culprit, or is it? It is a bit raggedy, and like other Brent tunes especially on this tour it has a energy? not dark but...and the drum triggered whips are almost disconcerting lol..
Brent even slipped some comments in that lead me to think maybe this was when his personal shit was going on? It’s a subtle thing, and I love Brent, but he seems a bit off this tour after his fine performances on both 89 summer tour and spring 90?
Here again we have the slightly truncated version of Blow Away, but he does rant a little. The crowd loves it and on second run I had a better take...still feels like weird energy, tad sloppy, another subtle, occasional (sort of west coast like) underlying vibe on this tour.
As others have mentioned, this tour sometimes evokes a strange character or vibe. More chameleon: mostly tight, but still loose and because of the exploratory factor, occasional misses compared to spring 90 perfection. Relaxed and sometimes mellow, but with a dark edge, the Dark Star whirls on it’s axis...the psychedelic gods woke from their crips via electronic wavelengths of midi summonses...
Second of two Samsons, was decent, with only the fourth Help-Slips-Franks since reintroduction, and a rare pre drums slot, that works well with integration into the weirdness zone. Though I thoroughly enjoyed this outing, I think I’d give the nod to earlier versions though. A status quo Miracle in it’s usual wake em up after driftin’ and dreaming through another faux psychedelic star ride, but alas, no big ticket items this go round. JG does give us a sweet Stella though, and the 1-2 Stones/NFA knockout to send em home eager for tomorrow’s show! Hold on, still have an encore folks and they've sometimes been huge this tour, but “only” a nice Black Muddy River tonight, which only adds to the vibe for 10/23. Overall a fine show, if sneaky and chameleon like on the surface...great song variety/sequencing this tour, with many 2 of only 2s this show. ok, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings!

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Another sneaky Pete. Yes there’s a couple items on the big list, but overall you have to dig a bit to find some of the gold. More great variety with over a half dozen 2 of only 2s, a couple 2 of 3, including a biggie, 3 3 of only 3s, a nice once only, and of course the big Attics 3rd of only 3 on both the tour and since 10/28/72!
So the big second of only 2 ever California Earthquake outta the gate and another beauty it is! Perhaps not quite the emotional impact of Philly, but that might just be bias? Next another great 89 Stranger, though not as good as “thee” Stranger from Hampton which I believed was released on that great sounding live Without a Net album...but this ones fine and only the 3rd of three on the tour. Interestingly, the other 2 times they broke out DS....would it continue?
Next a phenomenal Loser, another 2 of 2, until the hiccup during reentry, but it’s slight, and both the crowd abd I don’t care ; ) Weir with the dialed in Walkin’ Blues that energy wise is a bit of a let down in the overall flow, though a decent enough version. After a little futzin around, JG comes back with an upbeat nicely odd mid set Bertha! (2 of 2)
Good Masterpiece, Jed and Let It Grow to end another fine first set. Have really enjoyed many of the first sets this tour so far. First sets during some periods were unfortunately sorta throw away, but thankfully not here!

Touch O for decent upbeat opener, followed by second of two tour Looks Like Rain and a nice status quo version here. Then another rumble strip that was more noticeable the first time: We Can Run in a slightly unusual mid second set slot, and again not Brents best version, but Phil and Jerry really step up the backups and keep it moving and decent. Though there are occasional songs on this tour let might not be perfect, being multi-track and given the full Normin, I bet they’d clean up nicely! Like I’ve always wondered but never did the leg work with the Hey Jude from Hamilton. Remember it being emotional but Brent sounded ruff at the show, but the box release sounds fine? Meaning I should compare the box to the tape etc? There are certainly limits, but they can do wonders now: Winterland 74 different mixes, and many Donna tracks on multitrack versus only stereo come to mind. But I digress.
Now we come to one of those under the radar fun facts with JG giving 2 DBL Dbls in the second set. The first here with a sweet Crazy Fingers, 2 of only 2, then nice Terrapin. (3/3) which also lends itself to the psychedelic slide into the weird zone. We come out the other side with I Will Take You Home in its usual help the high people back to the ground spot, and it’s decent but perhaps still not full potential comparatively? No worries as they break out a spirited GDTRFB, this being it’s only tour appearance and the crowd appreciates it. But JGs not done yet with the second DBl/Dbl and second of only three Standing On the Moons and like other versions, he really seems to be confirming his decision to change his life and “rather be here with you”! and the crowd sends the love and appreciation right back at em.
So again, those with dreams of glory are starting to squelch them, though I’m guessing these feelings were underlying at this point given the great performance they were experiencing. Lovelight puts the exclamation point on it all though, with only the encore left....and alas, they finally bring the bling with another beautiful offering of only the third of three Attics on not just the tour, but since 10/28/72! And like most of the big moments on this tour, they deliver, something in the past not always the case lol.
Yes this show has a couple of on paper big ticket items combing to make the bread for the sandwich, but after digging in to the middle ingredients, the rest is just as tasty! Another fine show! I would say both of these would work nicely as part of our fantasy league tour box, but suppose one could get the ax if truly necessary? I just wouldn’t want to be the one picking...it might be easy to go for the second show on just a glance, but after listening I don’t think it’s that cut and dry? So why not give us both, if only because of the multitrack auditory ecstasy which would surely cover and make up for the occasional foibles...

To include both would give us 6 shows in our box so far. Though I’ve never heard 10/25 yet, I’m gonna throw it in there, yuck, yuck, simply based on vguy and other 👍. That would give us 7 shows, with my proposal of 9/29/89 for the first lucky “x” thousand purchasers, as a carrot generating bonus show, or at least the second set...

Thus we would have the following interesting, different, multitrack sudo psychedelic glory of this fine and deserving 89 fall tour:

10/8&9/89 Hampton box
10/14/89 This Box
10/16/89 Nightfall of Diamonds release
10/18, 19,20/89 This box
10/22&23/ this box
10/25/89 this box
10/26/89 3o trips box
with 9/29/89 bonus for this box....proper!

Ok, last one I’ve never heard going on.....now!
10/25/89, got my sunscreen on in the toasty living room afternoon sun while it’s a whoppin’ 24 degree heat wave outside! See ya on the other side
Onward!

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I stopped at the beer store and got Pompeii and Intergalactic Warrior.
Both were warm so they’re on ice now and I’m having a Pseudo Sue.
It’s all selling pretty quickly.

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A pardon thousand folks!

Love this show, or the partial release of Dick's #24. It is 74, Wall of Sound and yes, it is spectacular! Want the full show? Of course, but this two cd release still hits it.

Sound quality, A+. Bob t, yes, the first live Scarlet and Cassidy, really good.

Love the Playing reset and it is a peakers delight. And then you get the sandwich 🥪. So good.

Stay well out there. Looks like #36 has landed for some lucky folks. Looking forward to hearing the feedback while the rest of us wait.

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....yay!! I love this show too. Getting late, but I think I can get the first set in.
Onward!
edit. My timestamp says 10.28.20.20.10.10.

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I still have half the Cow Palace left.. the first half was spectacular. Powerful.

If we add in dekalb, our cow will be Corn Fed. I am still waiting for this show to grab me. Perhaps today is the day.

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Lovely cold rainy day here in Rhode Island... Cold, rainy, 15 mile bike ride this morning, and now warming up with this show!! After I'm heading a little east to Cape Cod Coliseum 10/27/79 (spaced it on anniversary)... Not going to listen to the whole show but in the mood for that Dancing in the Streets>Franklin's Tower.. Steamers optional (soft shell clams).... Growing up in Ohio the only seafood i ever had was fishsticks!!! bobt

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Just went to the store and heard Dave playing 10/29/73 Kiel Auditorium on today in Grateful Dead history, Truckin from second set. St. Louis here I come, Cold Rain and Snow opens set, very appropriate here in R. I. tonight!!!. Charlie Miller board..... Have a good night all. Bob t

Continuing our saga...

Have been meaning to get to this show since, we’ll since 1989 as I had tickets to the Miami shows but had to sell because of Hampton. So know I missed a beauty the next night, but curious what I missed here?

This one was similar in many ways to others on this tour: generally played well though not flawless, sounds great, good songs, variety and set lists, good energy but still relaxed, not forced etc., good consistently...awesome weirdness!

So nice Bucket out of the gate, with slight miscue outta the jam, but good energy, same with Sugaree, not flawless , not stratospheric like some, but decent and a nice rarity (2 of 2) on the tour, same with the sweet FOTD (2/2) preceded by perhaps my favorite version of the tour of my favorite Brent song, Little Light. Brent finally sounds a little more like his usual self this night.
Bob cranks out Memphis, perhaps a tad over the top? JG with another nice change up: a good Cold Rain & Snow, the tours only! followed by a ragged but right Picasso Moon, and only the second Deal this tour. Nice solid 89 set, not mind blowing but good overall.

Next they come out with the Playin-Uncle-Playin sandwich, nothing unusual there, cept this tour so far that’s meant Dark Star, and perhaps that’s what the plan was? The first 2 thirds of the sandwich were quite tasty, nice spacey etc, but it’s almost like they and/or JG kinda hits the wall all of a sudden? First the transition isn’t smooth, then they seem to plod a bit, again, subtle but after hearing every show you catch some things you might not otherwise. Perhaps this anomaly caused the Star to recede until proper summons was issued?
Instead, Standing On The Moon is repeated from the previous show, and only the third of three, but while the last one really shined, this one seems to plod a bit too? The big vocal rave up is totally low key compared to the last.
After another awkward transition, Bob breaks out Truckin’’ to try and bring it back up a bit, but for a while it’s kinda tame and that fatigue vibe lingers, but they get the energy up and by the end Bob and Jerry are throwing some good shit back and forth with some nice angular, dissonant changes that eventually ebb, to begin the decent, into the weirdness zone like a hit starting to take hold. There’s a section in the earlier part of drums that has a wild sound effect that made me write “if gooey birds made sounds, this is what they’d sound like” LOL. Then a touch of trad drums and into the wild and back. I know it’s not everyone’s cup of meat, but I’ve always really dug this midi weirdness stuff. Like the big Dark Stars, I like the formless shit best, it’s what makes the Dead the best. Most bands have some good songs, but nobody does formless reflections of matter like the Dead! It’s cool how that all has progressed on the tour. Some sounds were very similar to what JG plays on the phenomenal Merl Album: Blues for the Rainforest.
Oh, also have kept meaning to mention that he’s been very subtly playing Close Encounters teases throughout the tour and he does so here. Just a couple notes and you have to be really listening cause it’s quick in the flow and never really full on, or takes flight. But a nice tease for those paying attention!
Eventually like a freight train blowing into then past the station hot, Gimme Sum Lovin’ brings things back up again, but is one more song spot less to fill with a big dog, and with Warf Rat following, though decent, probably puts the kibosh on any of that this night. After yet another sloppy transition Weir decides its time for his train into the station power flyby and brings a big Sugar Mag that by the end both he and Jer are ripping so hard you’d thinK this was the last song of the tour...well, not quite fellas...first, an up but bumpy US Blues and it’s down to 10/26 and the last one...
This show was kinda weird for me. On the surface it’s another status quo good 89 show, but deep down it’s got a few warts and perhaps a end of tour vibe that is subtle, but slightly noticeable compared to most of the previous shows. I probably wouldn’t feel that if I haven’t been doing the tour in order etc...
But overall another good show, with good lists and variety, something they did very well on this tour. In the case of the big dogs, some could argue they didn’t repeat enough!
Ok, only the last one left, and of course that’s a real doozy!
Onward!

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10/31/70 & 10/31/80 for tomorrow.
Gonna have to at least watch Al Franken tonight.

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There’s one more thing you must do before it all falls apart: spend the night with the Grateful Dead of San Francisco.
- by Hank Teich, from the Stony Brook Statesman, October 30 1970

A Toast to Strider's first bootleg, Here's to Charlie-O!!

And the eternal question does 10/31/70 count as two short shows or one long show? ;)

1970 Stony Brook, I'm down for the Trip.
Hot Damn!

Happy Friday You All, Shakedown Stream Tonight!

it's kinda like the old days... of like 3 months ago

Finished up this beauty this morning. I really like this show. The flow is awesome. "This is the best day of my life". So good. The Eyes, Jam, St. Stephen, NFA into Black Peter hits it. And the Black Peter is top notch.
Best show of October 77? Not sure, 10/2/77 has been getting a lot play this month. Probably the best Casey Jones I have ever heard. Hope this one's gets released some day as it is part of the returned Betty stash now in the vault.

Hope you all enjoyed this show. Did it do it for you Jim?

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In truth, I put it to rest after an argument w/ the mrs. So another distracted listen. I have had equally bad luck with Dave's Picks 11, Wichita. Cursed listens.

It was a crappy rainy day and with everyone spending so much time at home.. sometimes things get overshadowed by the covid blues.

Maybe tomorrow.

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And for Dekalb, one of the better all around complete shows of the era. Different from what they were doing pre-hiatus, but definitely a powerhouse show. One that deserves full attention and a louder volume.

Previous night is nice as well, what with the Candyman that's a nod to Halloween and the lovely He's Gone. I wonder if they ever unearthed the last reel from that show at Soldiers and Sailors.

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Dick's 2 is obviously on the agenda for today.

Other really good Halloween shows ?

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I was thinking about some of the best Space Jams the band ever did. I haven't thought about it a whole heck of a lot, but the Brain Fry Space meltdown from 12/2/73 and the Space Jam before Wharf Rat on 7/5/78 are good. Someone was mentioning the Space Jams from October '94 all being good.

Anybody putting a Space Jams soundtrack together for Halloween?

Y'all strap yourselves in for November and 30 Days. I hope you win the calendar! :-)

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Our group only made one.... 1985-10-31 - Carolina Coliseum USC - Columbia, SC.

I remember the unique sound system arrangement. I remember the place being one level pie shaped and in the back corners they had speakers set up. Bob screaming during Werewolves was piped through these speakers and the sound wrapped around the arena. We gave Music Never Stopped and Tenn Jed a plus 1. LL Rain got a plus 3, listening right now,,, nice recording,,, came from archive.

I remember a huge spray string war at a holiday inn down the street. I remember people changed the sign in front of IHOP to read something like LSD served inside. Can't say I remember how heavy I was tripping, but I know I was!

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I keep forgetting about it, then I see the notes in my email.

Has there been ANY further word about the comic book and LP that goes along with it?

Starting today off mellow with JGB 10-31-87 Early acoustic.

Last night while waiting for Shakedown Scream to start I listened to set 1 of 10-31-91. Saving set 2 for tonight.

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10/31/70 NRPS from Fifty years ago playing as I type this.
Digging these NRPS sets and the story behind these shows.
SBDs recorded by the SUNY sound crew and we get essentially 4 complete shows Early & Late with the NRPS both nights!
That’s killer.
10/30/70 you can tell the band is a bit frustrated with the scene and if you read about what was going on around them that night and in general at this time, it gives cool insight to what you’re hearing.

The student sound guy for one is turning down the mic volume when there’s no singing and then when the singer gets back on the mic, the mics not working. I noticed this a couple of times in Lovelight, which in turn throws off the bands timing. I believe by 10/31 Bob & Pigpen threaten the sound guy, looking forward to that today :)

Well worth a visit for their completeness in a tape desert during this historic period in the GD verse.

10/30 & 10/31/80 - Who watched Shakedown Stream?!?
Some killer info about the story behind the 1980 Radio City & Warfield tapes.
DV - DL gives the skinny on the story of the master tapes in detail (minus the dates of what exists and what doesn’t). You gotta check it out.

From what I was hearing, random reels of those masters were recorded over for Brent Mydland’s solo stuff.. At the time the archival value wasn’t perceived and they essentially saw those tapes as having already been used up in the making of Reckoning & Dead Set. So they'd grab.. say reel 5 of 7 and use it for a new project.
Fascinating and somewhat heartbreaking stuff!

Favorite Halloween shows - 10/31/85 has always been a favorite. (Wow Dennis you were there, I’ve always loved that one since I first heard it BITD) and 10/31/71, 10/31/69.
Shit I like em all! 10/31/83, 10/31/84.

Alright, well… I think that’s what I had to say.

Happy Halloween!