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  • #6661
    Thats_Otis
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    Warming up the Chocolate Spot...

    ... sounds kinda dirty when you put it that way, Oro... :)

    Rock on!

    Peace

  • #6662
    Oroborous
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    31, bring it!
    Glad we got that Chocolate spot all warmed up for ya!

  • #6663
    Thats_Otis
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    Thanks, my man! I think it sounds pretty sweet - especially that Shrine 67 LP release, played LOUD!

    Your Hershey story is great! Really wish I would have been around during those times! I would have partied right down in the mud with you!

    Not the same, but my first Phish show was at Hershey in 96. We too found a spot directly in front of the soundboard, figuring that it had to sound good there. To this day, my friends and I refer to that area at shows as "The Chocolate Spot."

    DeadVikes, everything's a-ok on this end. Thanks for the thoughts!

    So, are we on for Dave's 31 today?

    Peace

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    Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
    I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

    Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
    Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

    Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?

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    6.28.85 Hershey Park....

    ....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
    Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.

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    You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)

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    So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
    Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
    So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
    So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
    Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
    The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
    Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
    As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
    So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
    Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
    That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
    So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

    EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!

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    Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

    I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

    To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

    One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

    Peace

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    Bode Miller...

    First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
    Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

    SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
    Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
    While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
    Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
    6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

    So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
    FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....

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    If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 10/25/2020 - 18:35

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Game on...

If we could go back in time.. I would love it if they cleaned up the vocals on Dark Star for this one. Minor gripe, because its quite good.. anyway, game on.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 10/25/2020 - 19:43

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.....saw them 13 times that year.
It was a good year.
On board for Miami tomorrow.
The 10.25.89 show.
Hell In A Bucket->
Sugaree
Little Light
FOTD
Memphis Blues
Cold Rain and Snow->
Picasso Moon
Deal
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PITB ->
UJB ->
PITB->
Standing On The Moon->
Truckin' ->
Drumz->
Gimme' Some Loving->
Wharf Rat ->
Sugar Mags
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US Blues
Underrated
Better fire this up now. Its 8 o'clock currently. I've got time.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 06:45

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When I was Nineteen
It was a very good year...

I couldn't resist, but I'll be Frank & spare ya any further reference to ole Blue Eyes. (I'll be Frank, get it?!? hahaha)
I've always enjoyed hearing what was happening in 1989 and dig it.

Nice recap OB, fun times!
I especially liked the line - "the dream is weakening".
LOL at that as I peaked at the post drums set list and saw the death of a dream there.

Good Stuff!

And I second VGuy that 10/25/89 show is killer, it's the Light before the Dark. Kinda cool that they were using that PITB > UJB > PITB as a vehicle during the Dark Star breakouts. And I mentioned this before but the Set List Heads must've been holding their breath after that sequence on 10/25.

5/26/72 deserves big praise and accolades. Top 10 show?
I'd go into it, but it's Monday and too much to do. The only Set 1 NFA > GDTRFB > NFA, and hearing the crowd get it started is a real treat. And... Is this the first PITB that goes outside of the 7/4 realm, based on what I was reading in the Taper's Compendium they're saying yes. That's Huge! This is quintessential Europe 72 literally.

And, '78 has been on my radar since the DaP V37 announcement.
Yesterday stumbled into 1/11/78, what a ripper.
Check out the Let It Grow on that puppy. Holy Shit!

Alright, time to get moving.

Catch ya later.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5HJxHTm5M

Well, not quite forty below, but went from like 65 on Saturday to 6 last night and a foot of heavy snow, ugh...it’s too early for this! Luckily, I don’t need to go any where so I’m going for the hatrick today!
-10/22/89
- 10/23/89
- 10/26/89 hopefully...
Wish me luck, onward!
Stay warm! and safe!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 09:11

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.....i hear ya. Saturdays high here in Vegas was 88 degrees. Todays high? 58. 30 degree swing in 2 days.
Checked out Miami 10.25.89 yesterday. Never heard it before and it was pretty spectacular. 10.26.89 today.
I need some gloves!!

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Submitted by MarinSmith on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 09:42

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Thanks to all you Deadheads posting here. I've learned a lot about the band and their music from you. There is always something new to learn or a new show to check out. I've been collecting their music for many years now and just love this band and their variety. There are a lot of good folks posting on here. It's generally a positive place to hang out and needed in these days.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 10:46

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10/25, it was a Wednesday, a beautiful fall day in south Florida, we drove down from Orlando and arrived at the Arena about 5:00 in the afternoon. By this time, the weather had turned to partly cloudy to cloudy with a bit of a breeze, still a beautiful day in the mid eighties. As we navigated about and felt around to find out way inside, the security was tight, they were searching everyone and taking away any and all party favors that they found and just threw them into a large grey trash can, which was getting quite full by the time we got to the pat down area. We had brought some shrooms with us from out favorite field that we had picked the weekend before the show, which was rare as usually in Florida about this time the shrooms fields kinda dried up by end of September. It was a rainy season and we were still picking by mid October. The picking was sparse, but very potent yields as was usually the case from this particular field.
Back at the pat down area, we saw as we approached that there was no way we were going to get the shrooms into the arena, so we consumed them right there in line, to the delight of some deadhead onlookers, who wished they had some, but alas, we only had just enough.
Entering the arena, it was our first time visiting the house of the Miami Heat, and found it very well laid out, with short lines for the numerous concession stands and long lines for the less than enough restrooms. We get to our seats, which this night was just to the right of Jerry and up about 25 rows. A great seat for sure.
Then the shrooms started to take hold, the sets starts with Hell in a Bucket, not one of my favorites but it gets us going into Sugaree, a good version from my notes altho by this time, the shrooms had me sitting way back in my seat. I don't recall much from the rest of the set, although I so remember a trippy Picasso moon right before an awesome Deal to close out the set.
The lights come up for the set break and according to my notes from that day, I was off as it looks like a series of scratching's and doodles until the lights finally go out, a big smiley face on the note page. Then, the second set starts off with Playin in the band, which runs into Uncle John's band back into playing. Wow, then a beautiful reading of Standing on the Moon from Jerry and I could relate, looking down from our 25th or so row seat, we were literally above the band and looking down from space, awesome. Trucking takes us into drums>space, more doodles on the note pad then Gimme some loving which had us all up dancing. This slid into a beautiful Wharf Rat which is one on my favorites. No more notes on the pad as the end of the show was a dance fest, with sugar mag and US blues ending the show. Back thru the maze of faces and bodies to the car and off to our hotel room, where we partied until dawn. If it wasn't for the notes I took, I would not have remembered any of the nights festivities due to the shrooms.
10/26, got a late start as laid in bed until the maid came and asked us if the room needed cleaning, we said "no" and decided to get up and head out for some breakfast, in the mid afternoon. Feeling a bit spacey from the night before and with no party favors to take us into the night we just hung out until about 6 pm a deadhead in a long trench coat approaches our little group and opens his coat to reveal t shirts and stickers and other paraphernalia, we weren't buying until I asked about doses and he said "Blue Unicorns" Score. Finally they open the doors and we get past pat down area with no problems and into the arena we sail again for the final night of the tour. It's Thursday and not as warm as the night before, a breeze blows from the ocean and it feels a bit like fall.
We are all hoping for a blow out show due to it being the last show of the tour and we were not denied, a truly remarkable experience was about to unfold before our very eyes. Again, we had great seats, mid floor, about half way back.
The night starts out with Foolish Heart, again, a favorite of mine and Jerry stretches' it out a bit at the end to everyone's delight, oh boy, Jerry's on. Notebook is blank so can't remember the next song but I do remember Stagger Lee with Jerry's voice starting to crumble, a couple Bobby cowboy songs and then Jerry again slurring his words thru Brown Eyed Women, a great version even with Jerry's voice starting to sound like as Blair Jackson put it "he had gargled with razor blades". Here's were it starts to get a bit dark, Victim or the Crime is next with Bobby singing like it's the end or the world, some real spacey sounds coming from Brent and Jerry into a mean Don't ease me in with Brent again taking it to the max as he slams the keyboards over and over again during the song. My notebook has Don't ease in big letters and it was a great version.
The lights come up again blinding us all as the unicorns had started to take hold by this time and I just wanted the lights to go out, as they were very bright it seemed.
We're off by now and the second set starts with a trippy Estimated Prophet into a Blow away that again has Brent taking it to the max, a great night for him. Then the first notes of Dark Star, the crown goes nuts, it was my first and only dark star and the notebook is now empty of any notes. It was dark, a very dark dark star, unbelievable sounds coming from everyone, Mickey and Billy banging on the stage to make a sound like stars exploding or comets coming apart at the seams, very cool, Mickey using the Beam throughout the entire suite, not as the main instrument, but as a side note, hitting and plucking and stroking the strings like some kind of devilish harp from beyond the grave. Truly amazing. The wheel comes out of space and it is the light at the end of the tunnel, a slow teasing by Jerry until it finally erupts into it's magnificent colorful spinning prism. Then another dark turn with All along the Watchtower, into a beautifully dark Stella. Jerry leaves nothing behind with this performance and I/we are spellbound. NFA finishes us off and tries to bring us all back from the dark reaches of space but it is a little late for that. Then the encore as they all stand on the end of the stage and sign us a beautiful we bid you goodnight.
Again, wow, spent the rest of the night talking about the masterpiece of psychedelia we had just witnessed, wishing we had a tape of the evenings performance right then. The drive home the next day was surreal almost dream like as I could not get the previous evenings magic out of my head, where it stayed for several days, mind truly blown.
Starting in 85, I had started to take notes of song selections and other occurrences and performance notes from the evenings festivities at Dead shows, so glad I took notes this weekend, or I would not remember as much as this, but I wrote it all down, not knowing that one day I would again read about a legendary night in Dead history.
Happy Halloween everyone!!!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 11:19

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Unkle Sam thanks for sharing that really cool account of your experience!

If you don't have these shows in your collection let us know, we can send you some links so you can listen.

This Set 1 is hitting the spot, but I'm heading into the darkness as Victim or the Crime twists and turns > Killer transition to Don't Ease!

Far out!
Happy Halloween indeed.... ha ha ha ha! (insert evil laughing sound effect, reverb & echo maybe some flanging here)

And welcome MARINSMITH glad you're here, thanks for hanging!

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 12:23

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Great review-makes me wish I had been there. I have just listened to the first set of 10/26 up to the end of Victim-as you say, some great versions of songs.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 13:15

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Great tale from the void. Many thanks.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 16:58

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They also happen to be consecutive shows in 30Trips

10-26-89
10-27-90

I jumped the gun and did both shows this weekend. Enjoyed both. Had them on cassette and was happy to see them included in 30Trips. Grate shows.

Grate story Unkle.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 18:21

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Welcome Marin Smith, this is a fun place to hang out.

The more I listen to 10/26/89, the more I like it. Buy me a gin fizz love. Fun first set. Funky Dark Star. October 89 was hot.

Conekid gives us 10/27/90 for tomorrow.

Stay well out there.

Hang in there Oroborous, it will probably be 70 out there next week right?

Nice stories! ....since we had no choice we ate em...nice work! Though may I suggest the ole shoe trick lol.

DV, I hope your right, but unfortunately I have to go today and it was below zero last I checked! At least no snow...

Probably save 10/27 for a day I can listen at home.

Ran through 10/22&23/89 yesterday and made it 2/3 of 10/26. So 2 goals and an assist, not a pure DHB hatrick.
Will give 10/26 a proper listen when time allows.
Will give 22&23 a few more runs before I review...initial thoughts are 22 meh, 23 good....
Really looking forward to 10/25/89 as I’ve never heard it and it got the vguy thumbs up so.....

Ok, have to try and find the damn Buffalo Hyde Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

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Submitted by MarinSmith on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 09:21

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When you can, check your Dead.net INBOX for private messages

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 11:07

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Just finished... Going to hit up Indy State Fair anniversary show from 73... Juicy second set!!!! Bob t

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 11:18

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Was in the mood for a nice Scarlet Fire this morning for a quick palate cleanse.. so I hit the Spectrum '84, then read Billy's 84 BCT comment and am continuing down this rabbit hole for a bit.

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Pretty crisp board for the era, sounds better to me than the Spectrum show. I had not listened to it before.

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Submitted by Charbroiled on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 12:31

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As we entered the turnstiles in the Zenith, our tickets where ripped and the next person placed squares in our hands. TV Screen Turbulence show from there on out as I had already partaken of some outside along with some wine and baguettes. The China>Rider is superb and a nice Crazy>Playin' - First Set was well played with nice song selection. Standing in the pouring rain the next day for tix's for the added night was not the most fun I had on this trip but another strong night.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 17:01

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When I realize that there is another 30 Trips anniversary listen today.
10-27-79
How could I forget that? Loved that show on cassette and when I read the 30 Trips announcement was super psyched (still a usable word) that 10-27-79 was picked.
So now, do I jump shows, or stay where I’m at?
Think I’ll save 10-27-79 for Friday when I can really get tuned in.

Which one of you beer fiends was talking about Toppling Goliath a few months ago?

Well, it has arrived at the beer store I frequent.
I grabbed Pseudo Sue since I like Pale Ale.
Pretty tasty. Similar to a local brewery here, but several $’s cheaper.
Will grab some other flavors nest time at the store.

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 07:51

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Anyone want to go and check this out today so we can do what Phil says?? End of 2/24/74 after It's All Over Now Baby Blue... Check out the only pre-76 Cassidy!!! and the last Playing>UJB>Morning Dew>UJB>Playin sandwich..... mmmm open face club sandwich.... bob t

Edit... and the first Scarlet.... oops

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 08:58

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That was me ICECRMCNKD......and Yes, It is good stuff!!! The Pseudo Sue is my favorite. King Sue is also good, but $3.00 more at $14.99 in my local liquor store, so i usually stick with the Pseudo.

Another one that we have starting getting is GFJ IPA from Sun King Brewery in Indianapolis. It's also very tasty!!!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 12:30

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Scores! Didn’t end up having to go out in the cold yesterday and had no pressing honey dos, so went hard on 10/22&23/89, in fact had such an enjoyable day, including basking in the toasty afternoon sun while only 24 outside, that I broke regulation and had a couple weekday beers! But I’m gettin ahead of myself, so on to Charlotte.

Have never heard these shows so was curious to hear them. Charlotte seems to be one of these off the grid venues, but repeatedly I’ve been pleased and surprised if and when I make the electronic journey there. And these were no different.

The sneaky chameleon tour continues. This show is a prime example of this both on paper, and after first time listen: it might not seem like much at first, but upon further review it shows its true colors!
Both times I listened to this I loved the first set. Like much of this tour they come out energetic but not manic, with spirited versions of Touch O and Minglewood, 2nd of 2 on the tour. Followed by a decent Half Step, the 2nd of only 2 on the tour, with a good Queen Jane, another 2 of only 2, Ramble On Rose 2/2, and an always fun BIODTL, the only version this tour, and only the 2nd of 3 for the year, with the previous being on 2/12/89! Another good spacey/midi Birdsong (for good or for ill depending on how your pleasure tends?) A spirited JBG closes the set out, only the 5th of 6 for the year and a nice first set closing change up.
So we see again that below the surface lies more. This has been a reoccurrence on this tour totally facilitated by multiple listens of the tour in order. Very enlightening.

Set 2 perhaps even more so...after first time I was nonplussed. It had moments, and it had moments, the kind that might negate box use? Blow Away being the main culprit, or is it? It is a bit raggedy, and like other Brent tunes especially on this tour it has a energy? not dark but...and the drum triggered whips are almost disconcerting lol..
Brent even slipped some comments in that lead me to think maybe this was when his personal shit was going on? It’s a subtle thing, and I love Brent, but he seems a bit off this tour after his fine performances on both 89 summer tour and spring 90?
Here again we have the slightly truncated version of Blow Away, but he does rant a little. The crowd loves it and on second run I had a better take...still feels like weird energy, tad sloppy, another subtle, occasional (sort of west coast like) underlying vibe on this tour.
As others have mentioned, this tour sometimes evokes a strange character or vibe. More chameleon: mostly tight, but still loose and because of the exploratory factor, occasional misses compared to spring 90 perfection. Relaxed and sometimes mellow, but with a dark edge, the Dark Star whirls on it’s axis...the psychedelic gods woke from their crips via electronic wavelengths of midi summonses...
Second of two Samsons, was decent, with only the fourth Help-Slips-Franks since reintroduction, and a rare pre drums slot, that works well with integration into the weirdness zone. Though I thoroughly enjoyed this outing, I think I’d give the nod to earlier versions though. A status quo Miracle in it’s usual wake em up after driftin’ and dreaming through another faux psychedelic star ride, but alas, no big ticket items this go round. JG does give us a sweet Stella though, and the 1-2 Stones/NFA knockout to send em home eager for tomorrow’s show! Hold on, still have an encore folks and they've sometimes been huge this tour, but “only” a nice Black Muddy River tonight, which only adds to the vibe for 10/23. Overall a fine show, if sneaky and chameleon like on the surface...great song variety/sequencing this tour, with many 2 of only 2s this show. ok, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 13:26

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Another sneaky Pete. Yes there’s a couple items on the big list, but overall you have to dig a bit to find some of the gold. More great variety with over a half dozen 2 of only 2s, a couple 2 of 3, including a biggie, 3 3 of only 3s, a nice once only, and of course the big Attics 3rd of only 3 on both the tour and since 10/28/72!
So the big second of only 2 ever California Earthquake outta the gate and another beauty it is! Perhaps not quite the emotional impact of Philly, but that might just be bias? Next another great 89 Stranger, though not as good as “thee” Stranger from Hampton which I believed was released on that great sounding live Without a Net album...but this ones fine and only the 3rd of three on the tour. Interestingly, the other 2 times they broke out DS....would it continue?
Next a phenomenal Loser, another 2 of 2, until the hiccup during reentry, but it’s slight, and both the crowd abd I don’t care ; ) Weir with the dialed in Walkin’ Blues that energy wise is a bit of a let down in the overall flow, though a decent enough version. After a little futzin around, JG comes back with an upbeat nicely odd mid set Bertha! (2 of 2)
Good Masterpiece, Jed and Let It Grow to end another fine first set. Have really enjoyed many of the first sets this tour so far. First sets during some periods were unfortunately sorta throw away, but thankfully not here!

Touch O for decent upbeat opener, followed by second of two tour Looks Like Rain and a nice status quo version here. Then another rumble strip that was more noticeable the first time: We Can Run in a slightly unusual mid second set slot, and again not Brents best version, but Phil and Jerry really step up the backups and keep it moving and decent. Though there are occasional songs on this tour let might not be perfect, being multi-track and given the full Normin, I bet they’d clean up nicely! Like I’ve always wondered but never did the leg work with the Hey Jude from Hamilton. Remember it being emotional but Brent sounded ruff at the show, but the box release sounds fine? Meaning I should compare the box to the tape etc? There are certainly limits, but they can do wonders now: Winterland 74 different mixes, and many Donna tracks on multitrack versus only stereo come to mind. But I digress.
Now we come to one of those under the radar fun facts with JG giving 2 DBL Dbls in the second set. The first here with a sweet Crazy Fingers, 2 of only 2, then nice Terrapin. (3/3) which also lends itself to the psychedelic slide into the weird zone. We come out the other side with I Will Take You Home in its usual help the high people back to the ground spot, and it’s decent but perhaps still not full potential comparatively? No worries as they break out a spirited GDTRFB, this being it’s only tour appearance and the crowd appreciates it. But JGs not done yet with the second DBl/Dbl and second of only three Standing On the Moons and like other versions, he really seems to be confirming his decision to change his life and “rather be here with you”! and the crowd sends the love and appreciation right back at em.
So again, those with dreams of glory are starting to squelch them, though I’m guessing these feelings were underlying at this point given the great performance they were experiencing. Lovelight puts the exclamation point on it all though, with only the encore left....and alas, they finally bring the bling with another beautiful offering of only the third of three Attics on not just the tour, but since 10/28/72! And like most of the big moments on this tour, they deliver, something in the past not always the case lol.
Yes this show has a couple of on paper big ticket items combing to make the bread for the sandwich, but after digging in to the middle ingredients, the rest is just as tasty! Another fine show! I would say both of these would work nicely as part of our fantasy league tour box, but suppose one could get the ax if truly necessary? I just wouldn’t want to be the one picking...it might be easy to go for the second show on just a glance, but after listening I don’t think it’s that cut and dry? So why not give us both, if only because of the multitrack auditory ecstasy which would surely cover and make up for the occasional foibles...

To include both would give us 6 shows in our box so far. Though I’ve never heard 10/25 yet, I’m gonna throw it in there, yuck, yuck, simply based on vguy and other 👍. That would give us 7 shows, with my proposal of 9/29/89 for the first lucky “x” thousand purchasers, as a carrot generating bonus show, or at least the second set...

Thus we would have the following interesting, different, multitrack sudo psychedelic glory of this fine and deserving 89 fall tour:

10/8&9/89 Hampton box
10/14/89 This Box
10/16/89 Nightfall of Diamonds release
10/18, 19,20/89 This box
10/22&23/ this box
10/25/89 this box
10/26/89 3o trips box
with 9/29/89 bonus for this box....proper!

Ok, last one I’ve never heard going on.....now!
10/25/89, got my sunscreen on in the toasty living room afternoon sun while it’s a whoppin’ 24 degree heat wave outside! See ya on the other side
Onward!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 16:48

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I stopped at the beer store and got Pompeii and Intergalactic Warrior.
Both were warm so they’re on ice now and I’m having a Pseudo Sue.
It’s all selling pretty quickly.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 21:28

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A pardon thousand folks!

Love this show, or the partial release of Dick's #24. It is 74, Wall of Sound and yes, it is spectacular! Want the full show? Of course, but this two cd release still hits it.

Sound quality, A+. Bob t, yes, the first live Scarlet and Cassidy, really good.

Love the Playing reset and it is a peakers delight. And then you get the sandwich 🥪. So good.

Stay well out there. Looks like #36 has landed for some lucky folks. Looking forward to hearing the feedback while the rest of us wait.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 22:10

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....yay!! I love this show too. Getting late, but I think I can get the first set in.
Onward!
edit. My timestamp says 10.28.20.20.10.10.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 10/29/2020 - 07:24

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I still have half the Cow Palace left.. the first half was spectacular. Powerful.

If we add in dekalb, our cow will be Corn Fed. I am still waiting for this show to grab me. Perhaps today is the day.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 10/29/2020 - 10:27

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Lovely cold rainy day here in Rhode Island... Cold, rainy, 15 mile bike ride this morning, and now warming up with this show!! After I'm heading a little east to Cape Cod Coliseum 10/27/79 (spaced it on anniversary)... Not going to listen to the whole show but in the mood for that Dancing in the Streets>Franklin's Tower.. Steamers optional (soft shell clams).... Growing up in Ohio the only seafood i ever had was fishsticks!!! bobt

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 10/29/2020 - 16:45

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Just went to the store and heard Dave playing 10/29/73 Kiel Auditorium on today in Grateful Dead history, Truckin from second set. St. Louis here I come, Cold Rain and Snow opens set, very appropriate here in R. I. tonight!!!. Charlie Miller board..... Have a good night all. Bob t

Continuing our saga...

Have been meaning to get to this show since, we’ll since 1989 as I had tickets to the Miami shows but had to sell because of Hampton. So know I missed a beauty the next night, but curious what I missed here?

This one was similar in many ways to others on this tour: generally played well though not flawless, sounds great, good songs, variety and set lists, good energy but still relaxed, not forced etc., good consistently...awesome weirdness!

So nice Bucket out of the gate, with slight miscue outta the jam, but good energy, same with Sugaree, not flawless , not stratospheric like some, but decent and a nice rarity (2 of 2) on the tour, same with the sweet FOTD (2/2) preceded by perhaps my favorite version of the tour of my favorite Brent song, Little Light. Brent finally sounds a little more like his usual self this night.
Bob cranks out Memphis, perhaps a tad over the top? JG with another nice change up: a good Cold Rain & Snow, the tours only! followed by a ragged but right Picasso Moon, and only the second Deal this tour. Nice solid 89 set, not mind blowing but good overall.

Next they come out with the Playin-Uncle-Playin sandwich, nothing unusual there, cept this tour so far that’s meant Dark Star, and perhaps that’s what the plan was? The first 2 thirds of the sandwich were quite tasty, nice spacey etc, but it’s almost like they and/or JG kinda hits the wall all of a sudden? First the transition isn’t smooth, then they seem to plod a bit, again, subtle but after hearing every show you catch some things you might not otherwise. Perhaps this anomaly caused the Star to recede until proper summons was issued?
Instead, Standing On The Moon is repeated from the previous show, and only the third of three, but while the last one really shined, this one seems to plod a bit too? The big vocal rave up is totally low key compared to the last.
After another awkward transition, Bob breaks out Truckin’’ to try and bring it back up a bit, but for a while it’s kinda tame and that fatigue vibe lingers, but they get the energy up and by the end Bob and Jerry are throwing some good shit back and forth with some nice angular, dissonant changes that eventually ebb, to begin the decent, into the weirdness zone like a hit starting to take hold. There’s a section in the earlier part of drums that has a wild sound effect that made me write “if gooey birds made sounds, this is what they’d sound like” LOL. Then a touch of trad drums and into the wild and back. I know it’s not everyone’s cup of meat, but I’ve always really dug this midi weirdness stuff. Like the big Dark Stars, I like the formless shit best, it’s what makes the Dead the best. Most bands have some good songs, but nobody does formless reflections of matter like the Dead! It’s cool how that all has progressed on the tour. Some sounds were very similar to what JG plays on the phenomenal Merl Album: Blues for the Rainforest.
Oh, also have kept meaning to mention that he’s been very subtly playing Close Encounters teases throughout the tour and he does so here. Just a couple notes and you have to be really listening cause it’s quick in the flow and never really full on, or takes flight. But a nice tease for those paying attention!
Eventually like a freight train blowing into then past the station hot, Gimme Sum Lovin’ brings things back up again, but is one more song spot less to fill with a big dog, and with Warf Rat following, though decent, probably puts the kibosh on any of that this night. After yet another sloppy transition Weir decides its time for his train into the station power flyby and brings a big Sugar Mag that by the end both he and Jer are ripping so hard you’d thinK this was the last song of the tour...well, not quite fellas...first, an up but bumpy US Blues and it’s down to 10/26 and the last one...
This show was kinda weird for me. On the surface it’s another status quo good 89 show, but deep down it’s got a few warts and perhaps a end of tour vibe that is subtle, but slightly noticeable compared to most of the previous shows. I probably wouldn’t feel that if I haven’t been doing the tour in order etc...
But overall another good show, with good lists and variety, something they did very well on this tour. In the case of the big dogs, some could argue they didn’t repeat enough!
Ok, only the last one left, and of course that’s a real doozy!
Onward!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 10/30/2020 - 07:08

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10/31/70 & 10/31/80 for tomorrow.
Gonna have to at least watch Al Franken tonight.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 10/30/2020 - 07:26

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There’s one more thing you must do before it all falls apart: spend the night with the Grateful Dead of San Francisco.
- by Hank Teich, from the Stony Brook Statesman, October 30 1970

A Toast to Strider's first bootleg, Here's to Charlie-O!!

And the eternal question does 10/31/70 count as two short shows or one long show? ;)

1970 Stony Brook, I'm down for the Trip.
Hot Damn!

Happy Friday You All, Shakedown Stream Tonight!

it's kinda like the old days... of like 3 months ago

Finished up this beauty this morning. I really like this show. The flow is awesome. "This is the best day of my life". So good. The Eyes, Jam, St. Stephen, NFA into Black Peter hits it. And the Black Peter is top notch.
Best show of October 77? Not sure, 10/2/77 has been getting a lot play this month. Probably the best Casey Jones I have ever heard. Hope this one's gets released some day as it is part of the returned Betty stash now in the vault.

Hope you all enjoyed this show. Did it do it for you Jim?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/30/2020 - 20:02

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In truth, I put it to rest after an argument w/ the mrs. So another distracted listen. I have had equally bad luck with Dave's Picks 11, Wichita. Cursed listens.

It was a crappy rainy day and with everyone spending so much time at home.. sometimes things get overshadowed by the covid blues.

Maybe tomorrow.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 10/30/2020 - 20:51

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And for Dekalb, one of the better all around complete shows of the era. Different from what they were doing pre-hiatus, but definitely a powerhouse show. One that deserves full attention and a louder volume.

Previous night is nice as well, what with the Candyman that's a nod to Halloween and the lovely He's Gone. I wonder if they ever unearthed the last reel from that show at Soldiers and Sailors.

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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 04:25

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Dick's 2 is obviously on the agenda for today.

Other really good Halloween shows ?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 05:44

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I was thinking about some of the best Space Jams the band ever did. I haven't thought about it a whole heck of a lot, but the Brain Fry Space meltdown from 12/2/73 and the Space Jam before Wharf Rat on 7/5/78 are good. Someone was mentioning the Space Jams from October '94 all being good.

Anybody putting a Space Jams soundtrack together for Halloween?

Y'all strap yourselves in for November and 30 Days. I hope you win the calendar! :-)

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 07:11

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Our group only made one.... 1985-10-31 - Carolina Coliseum USC - Columbia, SC.

I remember the unique sound system arrangement. I remember the place being one level pie shaped and in the back corners they had speakers set up. Bob screaming during Werewolves was piped through these speakers and the sound wrapped around the arena. We gave Music Never Stopped and Tenn Jed a plus 1. LL Rain got a plus 3, listening right now,,, nice recording,,, came from archive.

I remember a huge spray string war at a holiday inn down the street. I remember people changed the sign in front of IHOP to read something like LSD served inside. Can't say I remember how heavy I was tripping, but I know I was!

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 07:16

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I keep forgetting about it, then I see the notes in my email.

Has there been ANY further word about the comic book and LP that goes along with it?

Starting today off mellow with JGB 10-31-87 Early acoustic.

Last night while waiting for Shakedown Scream to start I listened to set 1 of 10-31-91. Saving set 2 for tonight.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 07:46

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10/31/70 NRPS from Fifty years ago playing as I type this.
Digging these NRPS sets and the story behind these shows.
SBDs recorded by the SUNY sound crew and we get essentially 4 complete shows Early & Late with the NRPS both nights!
That’s killer.
10/30/70 you can tell the band is a bit frustrated with the scene and if you read about what was going on around them that night and in general at this time, it gives cool insight to what you’re hearing.

The student sound guy for one is turning down the mic volume when there’s no singing and then when the singer gets back on the mic, the mics not working. I noticed this a couple of times in Lovelight, which in turn throws off the bands timing. I believe by 10/31 Bob & Pigpen threaten the sound guy, looking forward to that today :)

Well worth a visit for their completeness in a tape desert during this historic period in the GD verse.

10/30 & 10/31/80 - Who watched Shakedown Stream?!?
Some killer info about the story behind the 1980 Radio City & Warfield tapes.
DV - DL gives the skinny on the story of the master tapes in detail (minus the dates of what exists and what doesn’t). You gotta check it out.

From what I was hearing, random reels of those masters were recorded over for Brent Mydland’s solo stuff.. At the time the archival value wasn’t perceived and they essentially saw those tapes as having already been used up in the making of Reckoning & Dead Set. So they'd grab.. say reel 5 of 7 and use it for a new project.
Fascinating and somewhat heartbreaking stuff!

Favorite Halloween shows - 10/31/85 has always been a favorite. (Wow Dennis you were there, I’ve always loved that one since I first heard it BITD) and 10/31/71, 10/31/69.
Shit I like em all! 10/31/83, 10/31/84.

Alright, well… I think that’s what I had to say.

Happy Halloween!