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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • hendrixfreak
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    Need-a-new-release syndrome...

    If I recall correctly, the apogee of this syndrome occurred perhaps 5 years ago when the discussion veered toward whether to let the mashed potatoes touch the pork chops as one chowed down on dinner.

    Blew my mind. Yet, I'm still undecided on that point....

    Next up: the DaP 38 reveal, sometime in December, which starts Tuesday. I'm all ears. And looking forward to that flamethrower discussion... if we have weeks to go to word on DaP 38, I'm all flamethrower all the time.

    Whatever that means.

  • JimInMD
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    It's all about the aim, Oroborous.. When used properly and with good aim, hand grenades will cause no harm to the vermin that annoy you and will usually convince them to relocate to a different part of the county. The same can be said about deft usage of a high quality, accurate flamethrower (which gets considerably harder when the mice make it indoors..) perhaps a topic for another day perhaps.

    I knew you techies would have more to say on tone and style over the years. Interesting discussion, many thanks.

    A little more on the modifications made on the Nash Strat over the years.. the first guitar Jerry began to heavily modify.

    https://www.guitarworld.com/news/jerry-garcias-alligator-fender-strat-i….

    When vermin control takes center stage.. yes, we need a new release.. (or at least word of what the new release is going to be)

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    I think I inadvertently dropped a grenade...

    Okay, a couple comments. Yes, Oroborous, the flip side of getting different sounds with different guitars is the way a player can sound like him or herself on different axes. True and good point.

    Um, Keef has 500 effin' guitars?! Okay, that's just ONE TOO MANY.... 499? Okay. But 500?? That's just over the top! (Confession: I have three useful acoustics; my fav is a Martin D-35. I have five electrics and have been playing the '64 Gretsch 6120 hollowbody a lot lately, and the aforementioned SG in open D.)

    Lastly, LedDed, I too -- if forced -- would pick Jer's Nash Strat on the Euro tour as my favorite sound, but you're right, one can't separate the Strat from the peak music and improvisation.

    I do own an American SG and an American Strat and love playing both (if crudely). I'd say, the Fender needs more power to achieve its signature tone, while the SG kinda needs to be restrained. The SG was more expensive and I feel the components are of higher quality. To me, the SG stays in tune better. I can tune from standard to, say, open D, on the SG for some fingerpicking and the SG holds the tuning more accurately than the Strat.

    Of course, Jer's choice of instrument -- as someone pointed out -- also must be evaluated/enjoyed in relation to the instrument choices of the rest of the band, particularly Bobby. And yes, I liked Bob's ES335 tone best in the Euro setting. Gawd, what a tour! Maybe time for another full show from that insane run. I still marvel that me and two pals took 2 1/2 years to work through that 22-show box. Some of those four-disc shows required sleep-overs, though I do recall a few moderately perilous drives home after a 3 1/2 hour Euro show.

    Good stuff. What's next? Oh yeah, DaP 38 (big '73 show) and that 2021 fall '72 box! (I need to get out and socialize, obviously....).

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    I wonder if Jerry changed guitars at all during individual sets? He doesn't seem to have done, although as I write this, I do have a distant memory of him changing to a strat for Space in one of the late period dvds - maybe in the View From the Vaults series.

    I agree that Bob's guitar playing sounded much stronger when he was playing the Gibsons. Watching that Egypt show, one of the factors I am not so keen on is his sound. It looks as though he is playing an Ibanez. The sound is quite cheap and tinny. And if that wasnt bad enough, he also plays lot of slide on it.

    Imagine what Jerry could have done with a guitar like the one pictured to the left of this message. Big River etc could have really shone.

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    LD, I agree with much of your post Sir, but feel I must respectfully disagree and provide rebuttal about the slanderous over generalization about JGs diminishing skills, sloppiness, and laziness in the eighties.
    I will fully agree that his personal issues and overindulgences could negatively impact his proficiency at times.
    But I believe he, like most that play that much for that long, continued to grow in versatility, ability, and knowledge.
    Yes the overall arrangements and cohesiveness of songs was affected due to lack of band rehearsal, they’ve all admitted to that, and yes this could be attributed to him, and yes he unarguably had occasions of terribleness, but even during his worst times he always had a guitar with him...name a era and his M.O. was always a tv, a guitar, a pack of smokes, and yes sometimes other more destructive things. But he always kept playing! His supposed only complaint about E72 was they didn’t play enough. He always played as much as possible, and when you did get the real deal I argue he was continually evolving.
    As far as gizmos and distortions;
    1) he always loved that sort of thing, there just was way less reliable stuff back then, and
    2) they always played to the times!
    Whether consciously or not, from sixties psychedelic, to early 70s “country” rock, disco, to yes, harder rock, they always tastefully reflected the times without selling out or over doing what was en Vogue. So I think his use of such was for these reasons rather than being “lazy and sloppy“.
    Personally, I argue they OVERALL became a more professional, including lights and sound, band. There were times in the seventies when they'd tune before almost every song, for longer then the song, and still be outta tune. That didn't happen much later on. They’d tune less often and in less time.
    Certainly everyone has preferences and is entitled to their opinions, I’ve just never liked generalizations, either pro or negative. No offense, for the sake of conversation just contesting that point.
    Peace!

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    Remember, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

    Chiming in on Jer's ever changing stable of axes, the best playing I ever hear out of him is on Europe 72. The whole tour, with Bickershaw Festival being to me the all-time high water mark for both he and the band. That cream colored Strat originally gifted him by Graham Nash is my all time favourite Jerry sound. But it goes hand in hand with his playing; he was then at the very height of his powers.

    Gibsons, to me, sound fuller and thicker than Fenders due to their humbucking pickups (sometimes P90's) which tend to be less trebly. The stock single coil bridge pickup on a Stratocaster will slice your head clean off. It's a nearly useless sound... got to at least get into one of the clucky positions between bridge and mid, or neck for a little more warmth. Unless of course you're playing surf guitar or country twang.

    Gibsons also generally prefer heavier strings, .010's at least due to their shorter scale length, whereas your typical Strat-style is usually set up for .009's. This is the gauge of the thinnest, high E-string for the uninitiated. The heavier strings also stay in tune better, along with the hardtail or stop-tailpiece/bridge on a Gibson. Fenders tend to be harder to keep in tune particularly if one uses the original tremolo bar mechanism (just listen to Hendrix live). Unless your name is Jeff Beck or David Gilmour, and you are a tone magician of the highest order.

    There are exceptions... Stevie Ray Vaughan played with very heavy strings on his Strats, got a fat tone and generally stayed in tune. Stretching your strings is also one of the most important things in keeping an axe in tune throughout the rigors of a live set.

    Jerry began putting a lot more gizmos into his signal path as time went on and his skills diminished, as well. He began to hide his sloppiness and lazy playing behind a wall of distortion and effects throughout the later 1980s and especially into the 1990s. Hell, Brent even began taking solos that used to be the exclusive territory of one Jerome John Garcia.

    I still love all the music, and I enjoy Jerry in his later years, but nothing tops the man on fire around E72 era for both tone and technique. I also like Bob backing him on on the ES335 before he went all trebly and transparent, a sound that he maintains to this day.

    \m/

  • Oroborous
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    Sorry Dwight lol.
    HF your both correct and not...
    What you said is true, but I’d argue that an instrument pared with the right player can plug into any rig and do there thing! Conversely, much of the sound/tone that we dissect is due to the technology. Like can you imagine what JG would of sounded like on Live Dead plugging that SG into his 1990 rig? And to those that hate the midi etc, do you really think they wouldn’t have used the technology in 1969 if it was available? So it’s a complicated interesting thing.
    I do like the biting sound of the SG in JGs hands, but it’s often too thin sounding to me via others use. That was another of his great qualities; getting awesome tone and finding ways to make what ever axe he was using sound better than the same one used by others.
    My only problem with the Gibson’s etc, was they were out of tune too much. Just like some folks can’t take his vocals after “x” (critics can fill in their date) It’s hard for me to listen to out of tune guitars and vocals. Now I’m not talking the occasional instance, but when I notice enough instances during a particular show that it colors my recollections it. Unfortunately, this is why I dont dig 70-71 as much as most. Great set lists, ultimate creative period, amazing versatility (acoustic, pedal steel, and electric all in one night...foe git about it!) but sorry to be a bummer but a lot of that era is outta a tune! The vocals are more noticeable on 2 trac only, as multitrack allows later manipulation and blending; just listen to the awesome new Capital theater releases! I wonder if they’ve used a touch of auto tune to clean em up too?

    Eventually, the advent of the electric tuner would help, but if instruments don’t stay in tune while your playing.....
    This was one of the big reasons Bob and Phil started using Modulus Graphite instruments; The carbon fiber wasn’t as susceptible to extreme temperature shifts etc so they stayed in better tune.
    So it’s a the ole yin yang again; you love the era but have trouble with the tuning etc, or you love the more professionalism, sound, and effects, (and yes I think they got way more professional as years went by) but you don’t dig the R&R Cocaine train energy etc....that’s our boys, never perfect, but always great! Lol
    Speaking of the Bean, I believe it’s more the equipment that your referring too as the purpose of the Bean with its metal neck was to facilitate huge sustain (density of wood does so too, but not as much as metal!) Reverb wouldn’t be a characteristic of an instrument but a product of a reverb unit or setting on the Fender Twin Reverb and ultimately the room. Both kinds would be affected somewhat by recording techniques.
    My understanding of the main reason he used the Beans was to supposedly have more reliability on the road. Not being fully customized you’d be able to carry replacement parts could be easily swapped out on the road, where as the Irwin would have to go to the shop. I don’t dig the Bean as much as I used to, but again, if you plugged it into later years it probably would not have the same issues...
    All that being said, I like the Tiger best! I loved the Wolf, but the Strat has really grown on me over the years, again more because of the hands it was in than it being a Fender. Totally dig the Gibson’s for the more hard rock 60s psychedelic sound, and with the extra distortion you don’t notice when outta tune as much, but as I say it’s hit or miss for me later on, but that’s just me...
    Didn’t dig his later years sound as much but that’s more a product of the tech involved than the instruments.
    I thought contrary to the company line that when they stopped using actual speakers on stage and ran direct even with the speaker simulators it didn’t sound right. I understand totally why they did it, and it did help to address those concerns, but I think it lost some of the naturalism and that perfect R&R blend of clean and dirty etc, but agin, that’s just me....I thought they started getting too convoluted near the end and sounded too plastic? or clean and not enough like a R&R band. I know this is why Doc and others love 71 so much. That hard slightly dirty, not so techie R&R sound that became too clean for some. The sound of a bar band pushing the timeless simple set up of a good tube amp slightly overdriven! Like the sound that sucked me in: Johnny B Goode from Skullfuck! Tasty !
    But my favorite everything GD wise will always be 89-90 because of the versatility to be able to get the whole sonic spectrum, but again, that’s just me...(Interestingly, JGs core infrastructure, unlike Phil and more so Bob, didn’t change that much after he started using the Twin/MC 2300/ JBL E120 set up, just the effects etc changed)
    Ultimately, the truest form of greatness is the ability to plug into anything, and immediately be recognizable because of the signature uniqueness, tone and style!
    JG of course, Hendrix, Page (usually), Clapton (usaully), Santana, Miles, hell even the edge and Slash. You can tell the great ones instantly!
    Lol, ok, sorry, too much coffee and nothing to do here too!

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    Uncle Sammy is both humorous and right on about vacuuming being best, but I’m curious if you have a special device? I’ve only tried my household vac with the smallest attachment, which helps, but doesn't really do the job. That’s where I find using the air to blow out the hard to get stuff in conjunction with vacuuming is best, but I need to investigate some sort of small precision vacuum?

    CONEKID: wonder what kind of range it has? I need something like that for prairie dogs, moles and field mice, not to be mistaken with Mayor Field!
    I was looking into water guns but was disappointed by the inherent idiosyncrasies of most, and that the one that would of worked is no longer available except on the black market for too much...
    I don’t want to kill em for various reasons, but I’ve read that if you make them not welcome they will retreat a bit which is all I’m looking for: “damn kids, get off my lawn!”
    I need something quick; as the enemy is lightning fast!, versatile, most importantly accurate with enough range and power to get the job done but not so much I’m killing them? Currently I try and hose em but their so damn quick and smart that I don’t often get a good shot...“Remember, to kill the gofer you have to be the gofer!”

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    That is my favourite Jerry Garcia tone-the one recorded on Live Dead. It seemed quite a popular choice on the West Coast in the late 60s-incredible tones on the same instrument by Barry Melton, and especially John Cippolina..
    The other ingredient in defining sound is the player, of course.
    One of the interesting things about watching a post 1989 Stones show is how often Keith Richards changes guitar within one set. He typically plays various telecasters-some in open G with only 5 strings, to Gibson 335s, to Les Paul Juniors to strats. I think he's got about 500 at home.

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    The SG is in, I had to sleep on this one.

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10-29-77 is a reasonably good show but I understand where you are coming from. Personally the second set of 10-30-77 does more for me. I love the second set Peggy-O and then the Playing sandwich. I wish Dave used that for filler on the 10-29 release.

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My listening notes ask if 10/29/77 isn't the "Grate-est show ever?"!!

I'm in on the Dark Star box. I wouldn't even mind if it were JUST scintillating Dark Stars; skip any surrounding material that isn't A+. I just ordered a used copy of Grayfolded; never heard it before . . .

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American Beauty and 2/18/71 never sounded better. When the opening notes of Box of Rain hit, it's like everything in the world is going to be okay . . .

p.s. Going to be okay, like when Lindsay WEIR (there MUST have been a Deadhead writer . . . ) skips out on summer Future Leaders of America camp to take off on Dead tour after her high school counsellor loans her his American Beauty LP. (Freaks and Geeks, anyone?)

p.p.s. Hah! Turns out that Dave mentions that episode of F&G in the liner notes. :)

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WOW! This is the type of pressing that gets people strung out on vinyl! So crystal clear, this thing is such a beautiful pressing!

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I once-again donated to Archive.org, then ordered some 400i's to listen to the Archived shows through.

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... for next years box i would love an 80’s themed Boxset , kinda more warfield flavored. Combining Acoustic/electric performances from/by the dead
And also let’s throw some Dylan & the Dead collections during next years “to do list.”
I would also love a box covering more 72’ !
To be completely honest, I want more Pigpen! I always desire primal dead above all else! But with our two 71’ concerts included into Two 50th anniversary releases this year , it reminded me how much I love 71’! I’d be a very grateful DeadHead for an 1971 Boxset as well, lol but then 89’ always makes my nose twitch ! Lmao, Wait also are we not also due for an other Boxset Part Too ?! Holy Toledo, BatMan!
, whatever what may lay ahead for us fans, I do myself like everything seems to be in my life.keep an open minded trip! Take care & keep on trucking!🙏❤️💀🌹

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Re the RFK box: it is indeed Brenty, for better or worse. But what I wanted to say about it is that I now own it largely as a result of Dead.net actually functioning like a normal website!

A couple months ago, I was perusing the listing for RFK, and it said it was out of stock but I could give 'em my email and they would message me when they got it back in. So I gave 'em my, and they then they actually did message me! So I ordered it, and about a week later, it actually arrived! Holy Jeebus, I thought, does this mean Dead.net is actually getting its proverbial shit together?

And, around the same, I received a notice that they were refunding the payment I'd sent some months before for vinyl version of the Warfield acoustic thing. Because it was out of stock, and they didn't know if they would ever get it back, so here's yer money back, it said. Not only that, they gave me a discount code for 10% off my next order to make up for any inconvenience or whatever. Which on the one hand was kind of disappointing, but at the same time, it seemed like progress. They actually CONTACTED ME about a problem, and then DID SOMETHING to make it right! Oh yes they did.

So I'm thinking, "well, maybe after all complaints, they've finally gotten a bit more organized." And I decide I might as well go ahead and order the CD version of the Warfield stuff, and use the discount. Well, it's now been three weeks since I put my money down, and except for the initial "thanks for your order!" autobot email, I haven't heard anything. Not shipping notice, no explanation for the non-shipment, nada.

Some things never change.

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Yesterday AB50, today DaP36! Woo-hoo! I also grabbed that Songs for Groovy Children by Hendrix and Television's Marquee Moon. I had and sold Marquee Moon many moons ago (har.), but thought I would give it another try since so many of you relish it.

Happy Halloween!

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I missed out on RSD because of my kid’s sports. Those funds were donated to the archive. Please make it a point to give. We all use the site.

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....they have a section called Internet Arcade that is pretty fun.

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Dave revealed some interesting information on tonights Shakedown Stream regarding the multitrack left from the 1980 Warfiend and Radio City runs. "There is definitely material available from the run, a fair amount.. half or more.. but in the case of complete shows, reel one, four, seven might not be available."

Not sure what that means or if / how it will translate. He also mentioned they have more two track cassette masters available also.

I would have to think at some point they release more of this material, and if they are able to cobble together some of the multitrack, I would expect this to get box set treatment if possible, if it's too segmented perhaps some record store day releases.

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I for one really enjoy the two acoustic sets from the Warfield run released last year. Plus, I have the original/expanded release of the acoustic sets.

There's a lot of love for those runs and so, YES, JimInMD, I think many of us would enjoy a curated output from what's left of the tapes -- more than half is left? Comb it for the rarer songs and best performances, subtract what's been released and let's proceed to rock!

Um, that's AFTER next year's '72 box............. or ANY Pigpen-related releases.

(Ah the joy, but picky, picky, picky!!!)

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Uuumm . . . Let's just say that it doesn't sound like the '87 show from the Giants Box. And you might appreciate the sound on 2/18/71 a tad more than the sound on DaP36. :) Fans of audience tapes will enjoy this release a lot.

High energy, though!

p.s. I'm only commenting on the sound; I haven't listened to enough of either show to comment on the performances.

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Fuck Trump. I have children.

Go ahead, cry about my post for every reason and all, there's a box of Kleenex over there on the end table.

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Apologies for giving you the impression I was remotely interested in US politics here in Blighty.

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If you're gonna do that, I recommend that you give him an enema first.

KeithFan, I still hold that single disc up against any other single disc officially released. To my ears, the only disc that might top it is disc 3 of 4/8/72.

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Agreed, agreed
With what that one guy said
His name rhymes with RedHed
His name rhymes with RedHed

This new Daves is potent
You do need to adjust yourself to the audience factor

But once you have done that, you have pure GD energy

4 15 78 is next
All the golden yummies

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The RSD release last credited ABCD so was hoping and wondering if they could piece together a box of complete shows from these two venues.

I didn't catch the Shakedown Stream but remember Dave mentioning work on the next box was already underway, so right now a Fall 80 box is a potential project.

What a conundrum it must be to have several hundred shows or more at your disposal and only so many release opportunities per year.

Also lots of Summer/Fall and December '89 through Winter '90 multi-tracked shows still in the vault.

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they love each other ,GDradio 11/30/73 thank God for sabbath and the GRATEFUL DEAD, Cheers

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SpaceBrother you are indeed correct. I wondered why I hadn't noticed that. So I looked.

The credits are in, like, 2 point type. I usually take my Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass to it, but I guess I was excited to hear it and spaced that, brother.

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Im digging Daves 36, fans of audience tapes will for sure dig this one! I thought about my last comment and don't want to ruin the element of surprise so im editing it out🤙

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It is a great disc. As much as I love the old William Tell versions of St. Stephen, they really started rocking out at the end of the 71 performances (after one man gathers what another man spills). Weir especially on the Ladies and Gentlemen performance, and now on this 2/18 show.

Disc 3 of 4/8 that's a good call. I've always really gotten into 5/25/72 Disc 3, but I think the Dark Star on 4/8 is certainly better. And now I have Cautions running through my head. They were all pretty Kick-Ass on that last tour for Pigpen, but I'll be listening with fresh ears next time on your recommendation.

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They do come with digital meds though.

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During a classic Grateful Dead Show -in the -Rain, "The He's Gone" was such an uptempo crowdpleaser. We had our boom stand inside a dome tent with one tech-head handling the rec levels and bailing during downpours. You know better but I know him.

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Yeah as soon as i got the email the Dave's picks poster had already sold out, bummer...I would have bought one, oh well saved me a 100$ i guess... off the top of my head im going to say #5, #23 & #34( with the bonus disc) are my top 3 Daves picks so far...#13 & #29 would be a top 5 with the previous 3...

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Well, for the 10th straight year, my subscription is in. I will definitely re-visit at the end of 2021, to see what we got in '21, and what we may look forward to in '22. I have no real complaints over #'s 1-36, and look forward to 38-40(already know what 37 will be).
Three fave Dave's without giving it much thought: #30, #10, #6. But hey, in a nod to MDJim, It just might be the next one I listen to.

Stay healthy all.

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Yep! Dave won't find me slacking this year. As a newish Dead Head I really enjoyed every selection form Dave's Picks 2020 and the ones from 2019 that I got my hands on. I've really never heard anything else like this wonderful music.

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Still waiting on my Dave's Picks Vol. 36. At least I got a reply that they will notify the warehouse to send out another copy. Unfortunately still no second shipping notice with new tracking number, hopefully I'll get that sooner than later. It makes me reluctant to renew for a 2021 subscription when I can't even get my 2020 subscription completed. I've been a loyal fan for a while and never had shipping issues. I get that things happen that are out of people's control some times so I am hoping this is an isolated incident and won't be the norm for the future.

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"The only people in the world who will ever receive this Bonus Disc in any format are YOU, the subscribers!"

And this is supposed to make me feel what exactly? Privileged? Special?

Since nobody will ever get to hear it again I guess you might as well destroy the Masters because why pay to store , archive and worry over them. The concert is done. A few thousand CDs were sold and now it's one more for the shredder.

This remains, as I've said before, a completely ridiculous business model.

Never to be heard again. What a load of senseless crap.

But I do agree with the comment above that in general the Grateful Dead have a fabulous business model, in everything except the Vault. My objection above stands.

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Keep up the excellent business marketing model. Nobody does it better. Barry Barnes said it best. "Everything I know about business I learned from the Grateful Dead"

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Since people are always saying they missed the email can I share todays message that the early bird special price ends today. You’ll still be able to subscribe at the full price for a while or just get in quick and buy only the discs you want during the year.
Stay safe.

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They sell everything and people keep wanting more. How is that bad business?

Never heard from again? I mean come on. You really can't find a friend to burn you a copy? Not good enough with a burned disc?Then it really is about the physical collectable item and not the music. You can get anything from someone somewhere, just gotta poke around.

Seems like this business model is just fine. Did y'all follow those no VHS recording FBI warnings and never tape over missing Maxell tabs to make a tape? I'm not saying open up a vending booth in lot and hawk official releases but damn if you dont have a friend out there, be more polite and people on here will get you the music. I know they've done that for me...shhhhh. If you get confused....reach out for help...and listen to the music play. Plus there are plug-ins that allow downloads from archive streams...I've said too much. Get motivated and inventive people come

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You do work with optics at all? Just curious cause it looks like you've got an interference pattern of some kind there for your avatar. Reminds of optical mineralogy classes!

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Aww poor Byrd. A hissy fit because they don't do it his way. Kindergarten must be tough

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No, although I did work with electron and optical microscopes at one point in my less than illustrious career. The image is of a badge showing the cover of the Steve Hillage album ‘Rainbow Dome Music’. The music was played in a pyramid at the Festival for Mind, Body and Spirit in the late 1970’s. My wife and I had the pleasure of sharing a bench with Mr Hillage when he came into the pyramid while we were there.

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I really don't know what should be wrong about the suscription as a business model. Saw a few complaints on Instagram as well. Do I have to know all the cover stories in advance before subscribing to Rolling Stone? I doubt it. Just curious: Are there any other bands who do it that way, selling a subscription of physical product? I'd definitely sign up for Dylan, Lou Reed and quite a few others ...

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Colin-a fine album, and the event you attended is now considered the stuff of legend. Quite a privilege sitting next to his nibs as well.

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I say good things about the Dead when they do good things and offer my criticisms when I disagree, but unlike some twerps out here who respond with personal insults, I never hero-worshipped anyone in the band and I sure as hell don't blow sunshine up their asses 24/7.

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I'm still waiting for a reply from Customer Service as to why I received an unnumbered copy in my subscription for DP #36. I have always ordered two copies, and one stays sealed. So at least I have one that is numbered, but WTF guys. I thought unnumbered copies were promos and only given out to employees, stores, or replace orders lost in the mail. It almost makes me not want to subscribe for 2021.

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This is a great place for politics. Thanks for being a clown.

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Some people will complain about anything if it isn't exactly the way they want it. We call these people children . (and Byrd)

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Did Dave reveal DaP 38 yet? Doesn't he give away the show w/bonus disc before the subscription window closes?

Or does he announce the 2nd DaP of the year AFTER the subscription window closes?

I can never remember how it goes, year to year. 'Course, whether that's due to 48 years of pot and tripping or the meds I'm on now 'cuz I broke a couple bones in my foot Wednesday night, I can't say for sure.

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Some people accept anything, whether they like it or not, and misunderstand constructive criticism. They also have a tendency to label people they don't understand.

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