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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • JimInMD
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    I Subscribed, I expect I will for the foreseeable future

    Not blind loyalty, I really like the music. Even the 'lesser' shows get occasional, usually pleasant relistens, there's usually a nugget or thee of truth in there somewhere. My advice, pony up for the early bird pricing and let the chips fall where they may. Easy breezy.

    We all should feel free to express our opinions, all views are welcome. It would make for a more enjoyable read if we can find a way to get our point across without slashing and burning the entire forest. It stinks in here.., or as my French teacher Mrs. Feldman used to say, "c'est odeur affreuse"

    Their business model is their business, our choice is to buy or not.. I don't think there is much we can write in these forums that will influence their short or long term decision making. Sales and purchase behavior are what they pay attention to. In almost all cases the music is already out there for free, ready to be enjoyed without much effort at all so you rarely have to buy physical product to listen and enjoy. I fully support their efforts to clean up, preserve and restore the now mostly ancient recordings and make them as good as they can be. These mastered recordings are part of an important historical record. The Band and Rhino have a responsibility to clean them up and preserve them to the best extent they can. This likely means the next ten releases will not be the next ten you want released, more like the ten that best fit this purpose.., in the end it will even out and those ten shows will get released. If that takes a cento out of my pocket each year, I'd call that a bargain.

    Where were we again..
    We are really due for a '69, fall '72 or a fall/summer '73. These are prime candidates for the second release slot of the year and offer bonus disc potential. In another month or so we will get news on #38. My guess is it's going to be a smoker.

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    Snafu

    I would hope no one would send you hate mail for expressing an opinion. Your truth isn't my truth, but that's no cause for concern.

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    What's a circle jerk antifa?

    Well for those that need an explanation.... while antifa is certainly not a joke in my usage that's what I used it as. Circle jerk, yea I can see why the couple of dozen it refers would claim ignorance. As far as being harsh, not nice etc. Huh? The circle I was referring to were the same people who abuse and accuse the people who give us so much pleasure of heinous corrupt actions including the following making money, designing a business plan that allows us to enjoy so much etc.
    Dreading I'm sorry if you took any flak for stating the econ 101 basics. But me well someone needs to speak the truth clearly. Now you haters can start the obscene pms

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    Happy Life Day!

    For those that may know its Life Day today...
    I am going to go for the Jammy Trinity of 11/17/71, 11/17/72, and 11/17/73. I may cap it off with both of the 11/17/78 affairs. Finally 11/17 happens in 1985, so I may add that to the mix as I do have that 85 affliction. It may take me a few days to get through it all but its worth it.

    Also has anyone listened to the 30 Day of Dead selection for today? Its got a bommin' Shakedown.

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    Nice to see the era- wars…

    Nice to see the era- wars have calmed... Onto the business model! Love you all, miss the banter... It's all about the music, right?

  • Maine Dave
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    Once upon a time...

    Once upon a time I went to a concert. I don't remember the band but they were really good. I bought a ticket and --check this crazy shit out -- I didn't even know what songs they were going to play ahead of time. Trippy, right? So then I went to the venue and they turned down the lights and the band came out and they had their instruments and everything and the crowd started yelling and then it was like, wait, wait, what song are they playing? We don't even know yet! And then they played a song and then when they finished that one they started playing another one and they didn't even announce what all the others were going to be even then. They just started playing it. You'd probably recognize which song I mean, it's the one with the guitar solo.

    So anyway... the whole concert was like that, it was like, here's another song now. And they didn't announce a single one beforehand. Try wrapping your head around that! My mind was seriously blown. But the thing is... it was kind of fun, you know? I mean, I liked the band, pretty much, so even if every single song wasn't their best one, there was still a pretty good chance that I would dig it, or a part of it at least.

    That was the only concert I went to that was all crazy and backwards like that. All the others were normal -- you know, like when I went to buy the ticket, they provided a set list, in order, of all the songs they would play, before I handed over the money. So, I knew exactly what I would be getting, which is obviously way better and way more fun, because it sucks all the spontaneity and surprise out of the experience of hearing music, which is after all the whole point. So I'm glad that most of the time, I had all my musical experiences curated for me beforehand, because it meant that I never had to listen to something unexpected. 'Cause man, I hate that.

    Hey, has anyone heard Green Lung? Great pagan-metal stoner rockers from the UK. Cheesy as hell and super fun.

  • hendrixfreak
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    Whining wins, readers lose...

    With all the unmitigated crap-ola on our plates today, some few have to turn this site into a bitch-fest about the subscription model? Seriously? It's been the model for years. Do we have to return to the most basic logic of adulthood? If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you like to take a chance on which shows will be released, then buy it. At ~$7 per disc for well-curated shows -- some hit, some miss -- it's not a big deal either way. Personally, I'm not totally stoked over DaPs 35, 36 and 37, but I'm supporting the vault release program and looking long term for more killer shows from my own sweet spots. But the whining here is the definition of buzz kill.

    Looking forward to GarciaLive 15, Jimi on Maui and a stack of Petty, Prine, Jennings, and Dylan. And the news on DaP 38, whatever it will be.

  • Crow Told Me
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    I remember when the Antifa Babies opened ...

    ... for the Circle Jerks at the Mabuhay. Great show, till the Babies’ singer bit his tongue off, somebody pulled the fire alarm, and all the sprinklers went off and ruined my toilet paper dog collar. But I digress.

    Let me see if I can figure out exactly what the complaint is here.

    After lengthy consideration, some proactive data mining cybermetrics, and a long talk with my cat, I have concluded the problem is that some people feel like Dave should announce ALL of the shows as soon as the “early bird” deal is announced so that could make a more informed decision. That’s not a totally unreasonable thing to ask, but I can think of a couple reasons why maybe the DP folks don’t do it that way.

    Maybe it’s not practical for them to plan that far ahead: auditioning tapes, reviewing sound quality, and everything else that goes into choosing a show for release takes time, and it’s not like they’ve got dozens of people working round the clock on this. Or maybe they just like being able to keep their options open as they listen to buyer feedback: like, say, if they get a lot of people saying they don’t like having so much audience noise in a given release, maybe they would reconsider plans for another one like it? You gotta remember: this is small operation, serving a niche market.

    I mean, they’re not just doing this to be dicks. And it’s not like they’re making a huge fortune off it. I would suspect that the profit from selling roughly 20k CD sets is probably just enough to employ a couple people to keep the series going. You’re enough of a fan to want the whole series sight unseen? You get the best deal. You want only to cherry pick only the shows you want? You pay a little more, but you still get what you want. You’re not interested in any of ‘em? You pay nothing. It all seems fair to me.

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    What's A "Circle Jerk Antifa Baby?"

    UNKLE SAM

    Is it a cousin conceived by an unusual form of artificial insemination?

    What I struggle to understand is how being called an anti-fascist became a term of abuse.

    I like the subscription model and I’m sure it’s good for the company as well since it means that they get a large amount of their money upfront so they know the releases are viable. If they had to wait to see how each disc sold then they would, I’m believe, put out fewer shows.

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    what's a "circle jerk antifa baby?"

    wow, those are some harsh comments coming from some here. it's ok, breath, take a step back, breath. On a funny note, did you hear the one about the women in DC last weekend, they were screaming something about antifa and one woman asked another "who is antifa?" the other answered "I don't know, but they sure don't like her." wonka wonka wonka. Some folks just can't turn the page.
    I don't have a problem with the subs, especially the early bird special. Great name, early bird special, the early bird gets the special limited edition one time only never to be seen again only you and 22,000 others will have it disc. Gotta love that. ;)
    There have been a few Dave's I haven't been real fond of, but I still love the Grateful Dead and anything that has Jerry going up and down the frets and Phil thumping and Bobby cheesing and Micky and Billy keeping the beat is just fine with me. Thank you for still releasing these shows, they have kept me sane for a little while longer although lately things seem to be getting a bit weird. I haven't left the house except for groceries and dope for 8 months so I too have gotten weirder. But it's ok, take a step back, breath ...

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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10-29-77 is a reasonably good show but I understand where you are coming from. Personally the second set of 10-30-77 does more for me. I love the second set Peggy-O and then the Playing sandwich. I wish Dave used that for filler on the 10-29 release.

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My listening notes ask if 10/29/77 isn't the "Grate-est show ever?"!!

I'm in on the Dark Star box. I wouldn't even mind if it were JUST scintillating Dark Stars; skip any surrounding material that isn't A+. I just ordered a used copy of Grayfolded; never heard it before . . .

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American Beauty and 2/18/71 never sounded better. When the opening notes of Box of Rain hit, it's like everything in the world is going to be okay . . .

p.s. Going to be okay, like when Lindsay WEIR (there MUST have been a Deadhead writer . . . ) skips out on summer Future Leaders of America camp to take off on Dead tour after her high school counsellor loans her his American Beauty LP. (Freaks and Geeks, anyone?)

p.p.s. Hah! Turns out that Dave mentions that episode of F&G in the liner notes. :)

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WOW! This is the type of pressing that gets people strung out on vinyl! So crystal clear, this thing is such a beautiful pressing!

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I once-again donated to Archive.org, then ordered some 400i's to listen to the Archived shows through.

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... for next years box i would love an 80’s themed Boxset , kinda more warfield flavored. Combining Acoustic/electric performances from/by the dead
And also let’s throw some Dylan & the Dead collections during next years “to do list.”
I would also love a box covering more 72’ !
To be completely honest, I want more Pigpen! I always desire primal dead above all else! But with our two 71’ concerts included into Two 50th anniversary releases this year , it reminded me how much I love 71’! I’d be a very grateful DeadHead for an 1971 Boxset as well, lol but then 89’ always makes my nose twitch ! Lmao, Wait also are we not also due for an other Boxset Part Too ?! Holy Toledo, BatMan!
, whatever what may lay ahead for us fans, I do myself like everything seems to be in my life.keep an open minded trip! Take care & keep on trucking!🙏❤️💀🌹

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Re the RFK box: it is indeed Brenty, for better or worse. But what I wanted to say about it is that I now own it largely as a result of Dead.net actually functioning like a normal website!

A couple months ago, I was perusing the listing for RFK, and it said it was out of stock but I could give 'em my email and they would message me when they got it back in. So I gave 'em my, and they then they actually did message me! So I ordered it, and about a week later, it actually arrived! Holy Jeebus, I thought, does this mean Dead.net is actually getting its proverbial shit together?

And, around the same, I received a notice that they were refunding the payment I'd sent some months before for vinyl version of the Warfield acoustic thing. Because it was out of stock, and they didn't know if they would ever get it back, so here's yer money back, it said. Not only that, they gave me a discount code for 10% off my next order to make up for any inconvenience or whatever. Which on the one hand was kind of disappointing, but at the same time, it seemed like progress. They actually CONTACTED ME about a problem, and then DID SOMETHING to make it right! Oh yes they did.

So I'm thinking, "well, maybe after all complaints, they've finally gotten a bit more organized." And I decide I might as well go ahead and order the CD version of the Warfield stuff, and use the discount. Well, it's now been three weeks since I put my money down, and except for the initial "thanks for your order!" autobot email, I haven't heard anything. Not shipping notice, no explanation for the non-shipment, nada.

Some things never change.

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Yesterday AB50, today DaP36! Woo-hoo! I also grabbed that Songs for Groovy Children by Hendrix and Television's Marquee Moon. I had and sold Marquee Moon many moons ago (har.), but thought I would give it another try since so many of you relish it.

Happy Halloween!

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I missed out on RSD because of my kid’s sports. Those funds were donated to the archive. Please make it a point to give. We all use the site.

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....they have a section called Internet Arcade that is pretty fun.

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Dave revealed some interesting information on tonights Shakedown Stream regarding the multitrack left from the 1980 Warfiend and Radio City runs. "There is definitely material available from the run, a fair amount.. half or more.. but in the case of complete shows, reel one, four, seven might not be available."

Not sure what that means or if / how it will translate. He also mentioned they have more two track cassette masters available also.

I would have to think at some point they release more of this material, and if they are able to cobble together some of the multitrack, I would expect this to get box set treatment if possible, if it's too segmented perhaps some record store day releases.

Dave,
Box up all the multi-tracks and video that you have.
Include all the stereo recordings too on separate CD’s.

My credit card is waiting........

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I for one really enjoy the two acoustic sets from the Warfield run released last year. Plus, I have the original/expanded release of the acoustic sets.

There's a lot of love for those runs and so, YES, JimInMD, I think many of us would enjoy a curated output from what's left of the tapes -- more than half is left? Comb it for the rarer songs and best performances, subtract what's been released and let's proceed to rock!

Um, that's AFTER next year's '72 box............. or ANY Pigpen-related releases.

(Ah the joy, but picky, picky, picky!!!)

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Uuumm . . . Let's just say that it doesn't sound like the '87 show from the Giants Box. And you might appreciate the sound on 2/18/71 a tad more than the sound on DaP36. :) Fans of audience tapes will enjoy this release a lot.

High energy, though!

p.s. I'm only commenting on the sound; I haven't listened to enough of either show to comment on the performances.

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Fuck Trump. I have children.

Go ahead, cry about my post for every reason and all, there's a box of Kleenex over there on the end table.

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Apologies for giving you the impression I was remotely interested in US politics here in Blighty.

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If you're gonna do that, I recommend that you give him an enema first.

KeithFan, I still hold that single disc up against any other single disc officially released. To my ears, the only disc that might top it is disc 3 of 4/8/72.

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Agreed, agreed
With what that one guy said
His name rhymes with RedHed
His name rhymes with RedHed

This new Daves is potent
You do need to adjust yourself to the audience factor

But once you have done that, you have pure GD energy

4 15 78 is next
All the golden yummies

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The RSD release last credited ABCD so was hoping and wondering if they could piece together a box of complete shows from these two venues.

I didn't catch the Shakedown Stream but remember Dave mentioning work on the next box was already underway, so right now a Fall 80 box is a potential project.

What a conundrum it must be to have several hundred shows or more at your disposal and only so many release opportunities per year.

Also lots of Summer/Fall and December '89 through Winter '90 multi-tracked shows still in the vault.

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they love each other ,GDradio 11/30/73 thank God for sabbath and the GRATEFUL DEAD, Cheers

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SpaceBrother you are indeed correct. I wondered why I hadn't noticed that. So I looked.

The credits are in, like, 2 point type. I usually take my Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass to it, but I guess I was excited to hear it and spaced that, brother.

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Im digging Daves 36, fans of audience tapes will for sure dig this one! I thought about my last comment and don't want to ruin the element of surprise so im editing it out🤙

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It is a great disc. As much as I love the old William Tell versions of St. Stephen, they really started rocking out at the end of the 71 performances (after one man gathers what another man spills). Weir especially on the Ladies and Gentlemen performance, and now on this 2/18 show.

Disc 3 of 4/8 that's a good call. I've always really gotten into 5/25/72 Disc 3, but I think the Dark Star on 4/8 is certainly better. And now I have Cautions running through my head. They were all pretty Kick-Ass on that last tour for Pigpen, but I'll be listening with fresh ears next time on your recommendation.

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They do come with digital meds though.

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During a classic Grateful Dead Show -in the -Rain, "The He's Gone" was such an uptempo crowdpleaser. We had our boom stand inside a dome tent with one tech-head handling the rec levels and bailing during downpours. You know better but I know him.

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Yeah as soon as i got the email the Dave's picks poster had already sold out, bummer...I would have bought one, oh well saved me a 100$ i guess... off the top of my head im going to say #5, #23 & #34( with the bonus disc) are my top 3 Daves picks so far...#13 & #29 would be a top 5 with the previous 3...

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Well, for the 10th straight year, my subscription is in. I will definitely re-visit at the end of 2021, to see what we got in '21, and what we may look forward to in '22. I have no real complaints over #'s 1-36, and look forward to 38-40(already know what 37 will be).
Three fave Dave's without giving it much thought: #30, #10, #6. But hey, in a nod to MDJim, It just might be the next one I listen to.

Stay healthy all.

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Yep! Dave won't find me slacking this year. As a newish Dead Head I really enjoyed every selection form Dave's Picks 2020 and the ones from 2019 that I got my hands on. I've really never heard anything else like this wonderful music.

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Now light up a smoke and have yourself a ball, cause your mothers down in Memphis and won’t be back until fall!

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Still waiting on my Dave's Picks Vol. 36. At least I got a reply that they will notify the warehouse to send out another copy. Unfortunately still no second shipping notice with new tracking number, hopefully I'll get that sooner than later. It makes me reluctant to renew for a 2021 subscription when I can't even get my 2020 subscription completed. I've been a loyal fan for a while and never had shipping issues. I get that things happen that are out of people's control some times so I am hoping this is an isolated incident and won't be the norm for the future.

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"The only people in the world who will ever receive this Bonus Disc in any format are YOU, the subscribers!"

And this is supposed to make me feel what exactly? Privileged? Special?

Since nobody will ever get to hear it again I guess you might as well destroy the Masters because why pay to store , archive and worry over them. The concert is done. A few thousand CDs were sold and now it's one more for the shredder.

This remains, as I've said before, a completely ridiculous business model.

Never to be heard again. What a load of senseless crap.

But I do agree with the comment above that in general the Grateful Dead have a fabulous business model, in everything except the Vault. My objection above stands.

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Keep up the excellent business marketing model. Nobody does it better. Barry Barnes said it best. "Everything I know about business I learned from the Grateful Dead"

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Since people are always saying they missed the email can I share todays message that the early bird special price ends today. You’ll still be able to subscribe at the full price for a while or just get in quick and buy only the discs you want during the year.
Stay safe.

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They sell everything and people keep wanting more. How is that bad business?

Never heard from again? I mean come on. You really can't find a friend to burn you a copy? Not good enough with a burned disc?Then it really is about the physical collectable item and not the music. You can get anything from someone somewhere, just gotta poke around.

Seems like this business model is just fine. Did y'all follow those no VHS recording FBI warnings and never tape over missing Maxell tabs to make a tape? I'm not saying open up a vending booth in lot and hawk official releases but damn if you dont have a friend out there, be more polite and people on here will get you the music. I know they've done that for me...shhhhh. If you get confused....reach out for help...and listen to the music play. Plus there are plug-ins that allow downloads from archive streams...I've said too much. Get motivated and inventive people come

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You do work with optics at all? Just curious cause it looks like you've got an interference pattern of some kind there for your avatar. Reminds of optical mineralogy classes!

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Aww poor Byrd. A hissy fit because they don't do it his way. Kindergarten must be tough

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No, although I did work with electron and optical microscopes at one point in my less than illustrious career. The image is of a badge showing the cover of the Steve Hillage album ‘Rainbow Dome Music’. The music was played in a pyramid at the Festival for Mind, Body and Spirit in the late 1970’s. My wife and I had the pleasure of sharing a bench with Mr Hillage when he came into the pyramid while we were there.

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I really don't know what should be wrong about the suscription as a business model. Saw a few complaints on Instagram as well. Do I have to know all the cover stories in advance before subscribing to Rolling Stone? I doubt it. Just curious: Are there any other bands who do it that way, selling a subscription of physical product? I'd definitely sign up for Dylan, Lou Reed and quite a few others ...

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Colin-a fine album, and the event you attended is now considered the stuff of legend. Quite a privilege sitting next to his nibs as well.

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I say good things about the Dead when they do good things and offer my criticisms when I disagree, but unlike some twerps out here who respond with personal insults, I never hero-worshipped anyone in the band and I sure as hell don't blow sunshine up their asses 24/7.

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I'm still waiting for a reply from Customer Service as to why I received an unnumbered copy in my subscription for DP #36. I have always ordered two copies, and one stays sealed. So at least I have one that is numbered, but WTF guys. I thought unnumbered copies were promos and only given out to employees, stores, or replace orders lost in the mail. It almost makes me not want to subscribe for 2021.

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This is a great place for politics. Thanks for being a clown.

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Some people will complain about anything if it isn't exactly the way they want it. We call these people children . (and Byrd)

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Did Dave reveal DaP 38 yet? Doesn't he give away the show w/bonus disc before the subscription window closes?

Or does he announce the 2nd DaP of the year AFTER the subscription window closes?

I can never remember how it goes, year to year. 'Course, whether that's due to 48 years of pot and tripping or the meds I'm on now 'cuz I broke a couple bones in my foot Wednesday night, I can't say for sure.

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Some people accept anything, whether they like it or not, and misunderstand constructive criticism. They also have a tendency to label people they don't understand.

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