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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Vguy72
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    ....the Europe 72 Cumberland is what got me on the bus. My favorite song too!

  • billy the kid
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    My favorite Dead song is Cumberland Blues and my favorite version is the one on Europe 72. My second favorite version is the one on Workingmans Dead, Garcia adding that banjo in the song, is really a knockout.

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    Good review - I am looking forward to hearing this. Living in sunny England, that might not be for a few weeks yet. Interesting that you compare it to an AUD tape. In many ways, this series is starting to remind me of tapes I used to get from a friend about 20 - 30 years ago. After he had generously taped his entire collection, he dubbed any new shows he got, irrespective of year or origin. So I would never know if he had done an audience 1994 or a soundboard 1972 when I turned up at his house. This series is more like that than it is like Dicks Picks, Vaults or Road Trips. The main difference is that with Dave's Picks you have to pay for them - twice over if you live in Europe.

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    Encore is still to come

    3 27....

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    I signed up for tracking updates from USPS.
    It was nothing but pre shipping since10/24.
    This afternoon I got email that it was delivered. Post Office working hard on Sunday afternoon!
    Sunday night listen is almost as good as one more Saturday night I guess. Keep the faith.

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    Ha..!! here here.

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    Hey Dave, thanks for the in depth review. I've only listened to Midnight Hour, CRS and CCRider. I agree the crowd sound receeds a little into the background, and the energy is very high. I kinda get carried away a little with the enthusiasm, too. I always listen for each player, and I can hear Phil really well, Jerry well and Bobby pretty well. So far not so much Brent. But I aways chalk that up to early sound mixing at the start of the show. I experienced many shows where the sound mix improved as the first set progressed. I hope that is the case here.

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    Hey now today is my 10th anniversary as a member of this forum! It has been so interesting and wonderful to share all these great stories and appreciation of grate music. There was also a time when reading these comments saved me from boredom at work! Thanks for all the inspirational reads over the years.

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    ...Maybe people are still listening? But I'll throw in my 2 cents.

    First of all, the crowd noise doesn't bother me much. There are times when it's a little distracting, but I find that after a song or 2 per set, I stop noticing. Or maybe it recedes as the crowd chills, I don't know. The bigger issue to me is the general murkiness of the sound, which again is more muffled at the start of the sets (or else my ears adjust). Midnight Hour and Cold Rain and Snow, which start the first show, sound like a good AUD tape to me. Now, a good AUD tape of a Dead show is better than 95% of anything else you might choose to listen to... but still, it's a good AUD tape. Compared to some of the pristine shows and boxes we've been getting lately, there is a definite difference.

    I should add also that the equipment I'm listening on absolutely matters as well. I usually listen to CDs in my car because I drive a lot for work. This release, in my car, is borderline unlistenable (it sounds worse than a good AUD tape). But back home on my nice Onkyo CD changer and 1970s Panasonic receiver and speakers (inherited from my father, and still going strong), it sounds better. Not pristine, but much better.

    The performances overall sound tight and very energetic, at least to me. There is no doubt the band was "on" these nights. Jerry's voice sounds good, lyrical flubs are minimal, the solos are energetic and Brent in under control as far as the plinky-plink goes. In fact he's mixed pretty far down and I wouldn't mind him a bit higher, but oh well. His harmony vocals seem on point as well, he's not over-emoting as he tends to do.

    First show highlights, for me, include CC Rider, Esau, and Desolation Row, which is a song I haven't much on past releases (is this a first?). China > Rider opens the second set in fine style, and He's Gone stretches out nicely for 13-plus minutes. There are no 30-minute Dark Stars in these shows, but what jamming there is sounds inspired to me, and the energy never flags. Space > Miracle > Black Peter is a strong sequence, and Mighty Quinn ends the show with style.

    Show #2 opens with Alabama Getaway, which is solid if not spectacular (and suffers from sonic murkiness). Things ramp up with a sweet West LA Fadeaway, too short at 7 min but funky nonetheless, and then a terrific Little Red Rooster with Bobby absolutely drowning in reverb, which I love -- your mileage may vary. I suspect that the ambient mic piping in the crowd noise had a hand in boosting that reverb effect. True or not, it's swampy as hell and suits the vibe perfectly imo. Later the set closes with a solid TMNS, always a fave of mine. This version absolutely smokes, and benefits from the initial clap-along by the crowd . Bobby's vocals get a little lost but the final jam is extended and scorching, with Jerry completely in the zone and pulling some Johnny Winter-level runs up and down the frets.

    Second set opens with Touch, so, okay, but gears up for Samson > Cumberland. Brent's vocals and keys on Cumberland are, again, in service to the song and don't overpower everything else. Estimated > Eyes is also nice, though I prefer the Estimated portion, with lots of jamming and the same tight-but-loose vibe that we've been hearing so far. Nothing face-melting, but nonetheless expressing a kind of joy that's just really infectious. (Post-coma love of life? I couldn't say.) Bobby's vocals are fully present for Estimated, happily. Later in the set, Space into UJB is a lovely transition, and Morning Dew lives up to its hype. It's a powerful version.

    Sorry if I've rattled on too long... I used to review records, and tend to go granular. Short version: If you can look past the somewhat muffled sound and happy crowd, the performance is peppy and smile-inducing. I would rate this release a 7/10, subject to going down a point upon further review (it probably will not go up a point).

    Stay safe everyone... and please vote :-)

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    @ Huskerwing Yes I have the same problem. My DP36 is also stuck between UPS and USPS. I am a subscriber and it was suppose to arrive here in Va on 10/28/20 but never did. Tracking is still saying it left Butner, NC on Monday 10/26/20 to be inducted into USPS and has not updated since. What do we do?

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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So my copy of DaP 36 is in limbo. For me like those in the US, these are shipped initially through UPS and the transfered to USPS for the final leg of the delivery. The UPS tracking lists mine as out for delivery on 10/30/2020. The USPS tracking states it is waiting on its arrival - shipping label created on 10/30/2020. Can't win for tryin'.

However as often, I like to go with the sci fi time travel theory explanation: I think my copy of DaP 36 is stuck in a time vortex in 1971. In this very vortex, my DaP 36 dislodged my AB 50th copy which has arrived 2 days early of its targeted date. I am spinning the 2/18/71show now. I am following that up with Duane Allman's last 2 shows 10/15/71 (which was delivered today too) and 10/17/71. So yeah, I think I will let the good year of 1971 keep me busy.

I am thinking that the secret to getting my DaP 36 may be somehow encoded in the "Beautiful Jam" segment of the 2/18/71 Dark Star.

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I was wondering now that Dave's 36 mached Dick's full output at 36 whether they would issue a similar version of the booklet covering cross referenced of the output. I understand Dick's was over but this is the 10th year. It would be nice

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About what I expected. I heard this on Sirius a few weeks back and was concerned about the crowd noise. It was a bit much during Midnight Hour, but overall not as bad as I feared. I’ll take the audience noise all day long over those horrid keyboards from DaP35. In the end it seems to me that Dave wanted to recreate his first concert experience as closely as possible. God Bless. He’s entitled and he did a fine job.

For all you LLR haters out there, I actually like this one.

I expected to shelve this one, but it will certainly get a few more listens.

As far as the muddy sound, every time I attended a show in Hartford, the first few songs always sounded terrible. Not sure why. Aiko in 86 was barely audible.

By the way, 12/10/69 was on Sirius today. Why the hell wasn’t that released?

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Just curious if I'm the only one who's gotten a shipping notification but a failure to detect the actual package within the USPS system, I JUST got the Colored American Vinyl shipped to my local distribution center so hoping no funny business is going on with the Dave's Picks...otherwise keep it easy folks we're in for a bumpay ride =)

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Pick 36. Thanks - four sets of the classic mainstream rock GD recorded in a live Matrix-mix by house engineer of the time, Dan Healy.

It is workin for me. Bass is deep, reverberated and vocals are present with clarity and detail, but not too dry... instruments audible and dynamic. Kick Drum kicks. Cymbals slash and shimmer and splash and crash. Big crowd sounds as nature intended. -- And I only just got to Black Peter so far!

The fact is to do the archivists job and present Rhino with approved product is a hard enough job. but we're all experts too. Watching the promos for the releases, one gets to expect, like any issue of The Amazing Spider-Man Comic - we'll be told only the next issue will ever possibly outmatch the one you have in your possession now...

Well here, all be told Dave has bared his teenage soul and shared the first and it is no hyperbole...Bird Song 12-26-1981 is still my favorite, but had I been an attendee, 3/26/87 might easily eclipse it in hindsight!

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Just delivered by the postman. That is remarkably fast, especially in these strange times. As the tracking had said that it had arrived in the Netherlands yesterday morning, it was obviously not held up by customs. For other Europeans anxiously waiting to see what the customs will do, maybe it is reassuring to hear that the value stated on the customs declaration on the packet was $10. This explains why the Dutch customs were not interested and I had nothing to pay. Now all I have to do is listen to it. 😛

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WOW! The mix of this release is absolutely OUTSTANDING. I consider this to be one of the best mixes of any of the DP Series (and all are done masterfully), but this one has just the right about of Audience to add an ambience not previously attained by any of the other releases. "Wish I Was A Headlight On A North Bound Train > Crowd Scream" gives me goosebumps...

Well done!!!

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From 1 January 2021 the existing VAT exemption for goods up to 22 € will disappear. In order to allow VAT to be levied, all imports into the EU will have to be declared at the border using an electronic customs declaration.''

Latest news say rule is postponed to July 1, 2021.
Is that 'globalization' for the common man? Or is it EU at its best?

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As usual, it simply means that we will be required to pay even more taxes. Low value imports from outside the EU were one of the few things that were not taxed. What is even worse is that while the amount of VAT is not a lot, maybe €4 or €5, the administration charge from the customs is around three times as much again. The total amount we are taxed is eye-watering and it seems it will only get worse.

Sorry to hear.. toss some tea in the harbor. That e'll teach em.

Glad you got yours before I got mine. That's twice this has happened. The times they are changing.

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Favorite 2 Dead shows of all time, 3/1/69 & 5/2/70. Top 3 venues to see the Dead. Orpheum Theatre, Greek Theatre, Ventura County Fairgrounds. Favorite Dead song, Cumberland Blues, favorite version Europe 72.

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One more thing on this great release. I love that they put Latvala on the license plate in the liner notes-- a throwback to the Dick's Picks series where they all had 'Latvala' edited into a sign, license plate or something on all the releases. Just gotta poke around. Got through all of the release last night and I stand by earlier comments-- really solid release.

Billy the Kid - I could go along with that-the best two shows being 3/1/69 and 5/2/70. 3/1 is my favourite show from that run, and I am hopeful it will come out on vinyl next year. Before logging on, coincidentally, I started listening to 5/2/70 again - fantastic from start to finish . With Cumberland, I always liked the one on 4/28/71-I think this is the one on the box Ladies and Gentlemen.

For those of you that have your DP36 sitting in limbo between UPS and USPS, my copy finally arrived today after it was suppose to arrive last Wednesday. It was stuck between UPS Mail Innovations and USPS since last Monday 10/26/20 and tracking did not update until this morning right before it arrived. I was getting worried. So, be patient. I guess this election and Covid-19 has slowed the postal service down considerably. Time to dig in!

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Too much crowd mixed in. It's like listening to a really good audience tape at times. I look to the Dave's Picks series for a cleaner, soundboard type recording. And proximity to NYC meant a noisier crowd in general. Still great, but I hope it's not indicative of a trend...lol

Only 2 people in front of me when I got in line to vote.
Easy paper ballot, no hanging chad, just fill in the circle like standardized testing.

Made it through 3-26 last night.
Yes, lots of audience at the beginning of set 1, a little less at the beginning of set 2, but at one point during Miracle there was very little. Sounds like someone was adjusting the %AUD at times along with crowd enthusiasm.

Sound quality is good in terms of being able to hear instruments, and Phil has rattled the house at times.

I’m not shocked at the way it sounds because I had several pretty good sounding UM’s during tape trading days including Laguna Seca and Angel’s Camp 87, and I think 3-27-88 was also a UM.

Dave had some leeway this year since 2-18,21-71 were able to appease some of the less-than-enthusiastic subscribers regarding his choices in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

Looking forward to seeing what Dave pulls out of the vault in 2021.
Bring on the Knock Your Socks Off Box.
And what about 2020 Black Friday RSD?

Now on 3-27 Rooster and there is very little crowd noise, all instruments can be heard.

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Arrived today. Some days we get no mail, others, like one letter, and then days like today the wife's Lands End bag and a ton of mail, the new Guitar World with Angus on the cover... and this little number.

Well, a bit of a high number only 1,110 from the end but no matter.

This release sounds - and feels - very "alive" to me. I love, love the enhanced crowd ambience. Dead & Co. shows have a little more of this, as well... I don't find that it detracts from the overall listen, in fact it draws me in and makes me feel more present.

Live shows, even those with respectful audiences still carry that magic background noise, and that's a big part of attending concerts. Here's to hoping we get that back on a large scale sooner than later. I really want to see Dead & Co. a few more times.

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Why not include the bonus disc art? Just noticed that. Missed opportunity there I guess...still a cool poster though.

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We'll get there soon enough.

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on the ballot in many places. Here in MN it's somewhat decriminalized, and we have (very-restrictive) legalized medical marijuana. Public opinion and one party (the governor is from that party) favor legal recreational marijuana here, but one party consistently blocks it; MN currently has the nation's only divided legislature, in that our house is controlled by one party, and our senate by the other. So one party passes legalized marijuana in the house, with the governor's promise to sign that bill into law, and then the other party in the senate votes it down.

AB sounds good, as AB should.

2/18/71 is in process right now (on a small tunebox, not the car stereo), and sounds good, as 2/18/71 should.

God bless the Grateful Dead

I tried Spring 90 yesterday (3/14, 3/16), and it sounded flat to me. My opinion.

I also listened to 11/2/85 (quiet backgound music), and it sounded ok. Morning Dew... :)))

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Came through the letter box this morning. I wasn't asked to pay any duty or extra costs either. This is the first time for a year or two, and it has improved my mood on receiving it. In the recent past, I had a sense of paying for Dave's cds twice with the additional postage costs-but having paid the subscription this time last year, this one feels almost free.

I am still not opening post for a few days after receiving it, but come Friday I will crack it open and give it a spin. I' should be getting American Beauty and 2/18/71 tomorrow, too, so its all system go. Or will be soon.

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Finally landed here in NC with the AB 50th. Tracking was lost in limbo on both, but so glad they're here safe! Hope everyone receives their copies soon! Nothing left to do but smile smile smile!

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I didn't receive a mailing notice but they sent 3 sets today

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Boy this set has such great energy - China Rider is hot! I’m good with the matrix recording because I’m especially glad to feel like I’m back at a live concert, especially when I’m cranking this one up. There’s something different about this one - electric, toe tapping even more than usual. Nice work, stay safe out there!

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Just finished listening to 36. I really liked it. Great job, David and Jeffrey!

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Listening for the 1st time. Matrix definitely works. You are there! Purity you've been locked up to long

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Thanks so much for this set, I love this era more than I ever did now. Totally floored by Black Peter and I had only recently heard it with new ears on the San Diego '74 set released earlier this year.

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After 8 days in limbo, not counting the 4 days before it was handed to UPS, UPS tracking now says they have transferred the package to the post office for delivery. USPS tracking says they haven’t received it! I’m sure it’s sitting in a tray somewhere waiting to be processed but I don’t see it reaching me in the UK anytime soon. Perhaps in another week?
Stay safe and stay healthy.

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This is great, better than I had expected. The ultramatrix thang mostly works. Here and there, mostly towards the start of proceedings the audience level is too high but it settles down to a reasonable level fairly quickly. Sometimes when the audience goes nuts, it is obvious why from the music, sometimes there must have been a visual stimulus because it seems to have nothing to do with the music at that moment. I guess you had to be there. The band's performances are great. There are few flubs and the energy is high. The versions of some songs are top notch. The mix of the instruments is pretty good. Everyone can be heard though some instruments are a bit low in the mix. All things considered this is a fine release and a big improvement over Dave's Picks 35 where the sound quality of the cassette recording was definitely low fidelity and sounded muddy to these ears.

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with everything Simonrob said except that I really liked #35 too :)

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The end of the Dew falls a little flat for me. Jerry usually would draw out that last syllable of 'I guess it doesn't matter anywaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy', but here he doesn't. Small thing, but noticeable. The '87 happy and present Jerry is a plus for me though.

P.S. I found all the taxis. :-)

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In London in 1990, the crowd cheering seemed to bear no relation at all to what was being played on stage. It was very loud before they even came on stage, and carried on during both sets ebbing and flowing.. Maybe on occasion a few people started shouting and others picked up on it and then everyone was at it. It reminded me a bit of being at a football game. It was far louder up in the balcony, where I was on the third night, compared to in the stalls at the front, where I was on the first.

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I have traditionally been a "give us more 1967-1974"-type Grateful Dead fan but I must add to the chorus of people praising Dave's 36 (and 35, for that matter). Listening to Dave's 36, the first show, then the second, inspired me to finally open Dave's 35 (4 20 84), which had been sitting on the shelf in brand new unopened condition for the past several months. And that too is superb ... thank you Dave.

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I paid $40.00 for a grade D audience tape that I can listen to for free on archive.org!
The only thing missing from this steaming pile of SHIT is the super dosed freako in the audience screaming "Jerry" on EVERY track!
COMPLETE RIPOFF!

....anyone can listen to pretty much any show, any grade, on archive.org. For Free.

Nothing new here....except varying expectations and ongoing personal demands.

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Three toed sloth is ANGRY!

I guess the good news for Dave and Company is that he doesn't move all that fast :)

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I had heard that Oregon decriminalized all illicit drugs Tuesday, but just now learned that in conjunction with that, they also legalized psychedelic mushrooms.

And in Arizona, until Tuesday, it apparently was a felony to possess marijuana; it no longer is.

Oregon Measure 109. Legalize Psilocybin
Permits licensed service providers to administer psilocybin-producing mushroom and fungi products to individuals 21 years of age or older.

Not sure what licensed service providers means.. the old and wise hippie shaman down the street or a licensed psychologist that would only prescribe under controlled / supervised conditions, etc.

In any case, I am jealous.

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Hopefully, it will eventually be for recreational use, but this is certainly a start.

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