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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #2351
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    Can you imagine writing the real equipment book? With the constant upgrading of the system, that book would be multiple enormous volumes. Hope the Meyers have logged a lot of their research.

    No 18's here. Of course not needed.

    Back last year, Oro, you asked if I was running multiple subs. I am not. I have a 12" SVS Systems sub with built in Sledge D amp. It is like the rabbit, it is a thumper. Goes down to 13 or 15hz, so below the 20hz of human hearing. That is, if all memories about frequency response are still good. Starting to get the old enough to question my own thoughts at times.

    I am still hoping for the day when we can listen to WoS through a system that takes us to the "Fare the Well" P.A.. Would have to be software based, but I look at it like 4K upcoding an HDTV signal.

    Wow, FTW PA is now 7 years ago. Bet the Meyers' have gone way beyond that. I almost applied for a job at Meyer 7 years ago. Was in my career field. POTHead.

    That 2015 system had multiple flying 18's. It also had a load balancing system. This was done by having 2 systems, intake and outake. That is, they had 100 microphones throughout the stadium to push into the analytics software. Of course, the output systems was not connected except thru analytics, to the input system to avoid feedback. Brilliant. The analytic input system could then be used to balance the PA by section of the of the stadium.

    Sorry for interruption but I wanted find the article on pro sound web about 2015 FTW PA.

    I did actually find it, but not by searching pro sound web, but by searching internet at large and it found it on the pro sound web site, even though pro sound web could not find it in its own search.

    Let me know, maybe I can send lynk thru PM here, not sure if they cut that off.

    Any way need to do a little work after lunch. I mean a little work.

    G

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    That’s what chain saws are for!

    Gary, I think besides trying to keep up with Garcia, Phil was using that big system on stage to help fill in those near field areas (up front etc) we were discussing, the areas that didn’t get proper coverage from the PA?
    What some refer to as the Phil Zone, though to me that’s was where both his stage sound and the PA sound merged and acoustically coupled.
    But yeah, My spine tingles and can still feel rather than hear those sub frequencies in my DNA. (By sub I mean below the threshold of hearing, not a subwoofer). Those Meyers 18”s in the PA were ridiculous in the right spot, in the right venue etc.
    Plus, it’s the Grateful Fucking Dead so why not go big!

    PS, that Grateful Dead gear book is great, though a little dialed down.

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    I want what Phil's having...

    Home version. 18"'s and 4"'s. If I move some things around, they should fit.

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    thanks for the write-up, input. Need a little time to read again and ponder. Think again we are speaking the same language but as 90% of communication is non verbal, some times the written language let's us down.

    It seems I have the dead's equipment book, need to track that down. Not necessarily for this discussion but just to find it again...

    Should have figured Phil would use Meyer systems. Using 18's onstage, wow!

    Hope all well your way!

    G

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    As of late 82 or early 83 Phil was using 4 Meyers cabinets: (4 -18”, 4 -15”), 2 per cabinet powered by custom PIE amps, until they started not using speakers on stage in 92. (Which I didn’t like).

    Not sure I get all what your saying? I agree that Soundboards do not sound natural for many reasons.
    Perhaps your referring to the phenomena of Microphones not having frequency response to accurately record bass waves combing sub sonic frequencies at those kind of SPL levels?
    Mic location can also make a big difference and was partly why Dan started the tapers section. Unless you have the right knowledge and equipment chances are a recording made too close will mot sound good.
    Plus you have the physics: the lower the frequency, the longer the sound wave. If your too close you’ll not hear the fully formed bass note etc.
    In fact if your too close much of the PA sound will blow right by you. You’ll also not properly experience stereo imaging. That’s why usually, the sound board or just before it was THE place to be. It was a trade off going up front: yeah you were up close and could see and hear their stage sound, but the PA mix was so above and beyond you that you missed a lot of info. Eventually they added little Meyers boxes, usually sitting on the front of the stage to add some vocals etc for those up close.
    Nothing comes for free! Personally, like Bear, I didn’t like the stereo set up because of this. Unless you were in the right spot, you missed a lot of info, especially if you were sitting on the side!
    This was the main reason Reserved seating sucked: nobody could sit where they wanted so if you were a sound nut like us, you often had to endure less than perfect sound/mixes.

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    I listened to 1988-10-15. Once Friday, Second Saturday. Two different sources although both said the Ultramatrix board, the first was much muddier than the second. Best highlight was the deep garbled voices toward the end of drums. Really bizarre, and reminds me of garbled voices during latter Star Wars during broken transmissions, and reminds me of the fellas ties to Lucas, the lightgiver.

    I was very disappointed in both versions as the show is missing a whole lot of data/music. What I mean by this is, I am wondering if there is fallout from the phil zone? I am positing that as the Phil Zone expanded, Healy lost control of the overall sound. If memory serves at some point it seems I remember maybe Phil using 18" woofers onstage. For sure he was using 15's (plus 12's and 10's). Now I loved my bit of time I spent in the Phil zone, but generally when I got up close, it was Jerry side. As Phil blasts his horn, this means Healy had to bring Phil down in the overall P.A. mix. In my humble opinion, I believe this led to the bad tape sound, lots of data/music missing. When I focus my ears, I can tell that much of the overall lower sound waves are missing or nonexistent. Even worse, the frequencies that are there are very muddled and indiscernible.

    Now as a way to test my theory, I listened to 1988-03-27, Hampton. Another group of shows I saw in 1988. I did see 8 Dead shows there and fully know the quality of the sound that can be obtained within the mothership. (Also saw the shows that make up "Hampton Comes Alive..") When I listened to March 27, the sound is very good. However, although not as bad a St.Pete, there is again a large amount of data/music missing as well. The imaging is excellent but that is because the imaging comes from the higher frequencies. Bass frequencies are much more omni- directional, whereas high frequencies are unidirectional. (Want to press on these concepts furthur, later on. I want to go back to some discussions back in October regarding HDCD.) If my hypothesis is correct, then the tape anomalies concerning extremely muddled low frequencies will test out thru other 1988 shows. Had not heard or noticed this until this past weekend. So for St. Pete, it not only causes Phil to be muddled (deep booming bass with no clarity to individual notes played), it also means some muddleness from other players/instruments. I believe this may be the reason why 1988 recordings may all need matrix recording.

    Just one man's opinion, would like to know what others thought.

    Both Hampton and St. Pete were excellent shows when you factor other aspects than just the quality of the reproduced sound on tape. One reason I love the later shows is because the P.A. quality produces a much more full bodied, across frequencies, sound than do earlier performances. Early performances are fire from perfomance, latter shows have more depth and clarity in the frequency spectrum, hence DaP#40.

    Ok enough for now.

    G

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    I was there.. It was so hot at the start of the show... Close to 100... Really enjoyed the long scarlet>fire popping up in the 4th slot.... Drove straight to Louisville after the show... why oh why.

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    Congrats Jim!!!

    Knew we were getting close. Still love the Raven show. I am a huge '82 fan.

    This was the same time as my first drop, April 1982, what a life changing event, as I know 4/19 was for you.

    First 2 drops were Orange Sunshine and Purple Haze. Not too bad for first 2. Man, there is a lot to write about with those 2.

    Thanks Jim for being such a solid rock of posting here, and again, Congrats.

    G

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    4/19 - Why take one when two will do?

    I can't say no to that. A pivotal moment in the life of Jim.

    The drive home (including the arduous task of finding the car) was perhaps scarier than that moment when they derailed into discord and mayhem shortly after drums. The driver, the older brother of the friend I went with, was totally straight and a taper. The two of us had never seen the dead before and we both indulged - two each. Making it through space intact was the first challenge.. then we had to live through it again on the drive home. I was given very strict instructions which I followed as if my life depended on it, "He cannot know." So we hop in the car, he takes out his newly recorded master and fast forwards to that very moment it all began.

    "Quoth the Raven Nevermore. ....It was a dark and stormy night.... Wasn't it?" and the laughing and the sounds of nitrous.

    Listening to this again for the first time in a while, that laugh at the beginning of space that sounds remarkably like the laugh repeated over and over again on a loop cycle during the excellent Space from Dave's Picks 40, Deer Creek 6/18/90. It's the same laugh whether recreated or brought back to life from this recording? Not sure.

    Looking back on this 40 years later, I have to think maybe Larry wasn't as straight as he was purported to be. How could he not have known we were holding on for dear life on that fateful drive home? Perhaps he fast forwarded to that space because he knew and approved? A test? Questions that will likely remain unanswered.

    If you haven't heard this check it out, there's a brand spanking new Miller on the archive that reeks of an upgrade. On a similar note, Lemieux has been playing stuff from this tour this year. I recall him referring to it as "a most excellent tour", perhaps foreshadowing things to come?

    To me, the sound is better than some of the 82 that's found it's way to CD.. When the sweet chords of the Wheel finally broke through the madness that came before it.. I realized things were going to be ok after all. And they were. But the half hour before that and the half hour drive home took some time to make sense out of. Thankfully the Wheel and Stella Blue were there to provide support and ground us after our travels.

    I'd like to think we both passed the test. ahh.. well, onward.

    Edit: Two additional comments.. the discord probably started with Feel Like a Stranger, also that Brokedown Palace was sweet. 81 and 82 have some really nice versions of these songs, Jerry's voice was in good shape during this period. a real highlight.

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    I can't honestly say I remember the Pigpen version - despite having the cd of 4/18/70. But that John Lee Hooker record is unforgettable. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds cut a thunderous record based on this theme, and with that title, in the mid 80's.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 08:19

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37 years ago at the Marin Veterans Auditorium, they played the last St.Stephen. I had a lot more fun the night before, 10/30/83, when we all dosed, fun city. My favorite Halloween show is 10/31/69 from San Jose State. I saw the Garcia Band on 10/31/86, the Oakland Auditorium kinda swallowed them up, when you were used to seeing them at Keystone Palo Alto.

Just scored 5-9-77 vinyl at a local shop, $125 + tax.
There were 2 copies, another guy was there at the same time and grabbed the other.

Sounds awesome, but the curse of vinyl means that you have to flip the record after Slipknot!

DaP 36 is ‘in transit by post office’, so fingers are crossed that it comes today.
AB50 is also supposed to arrive today.

Good thing clocks turn back tonight, I’ll need that extra hour for listening if in fact all the CD’s show up.
Not sure if I’ll get in the Halloween anniversary listens, I’ve heard them all many times and the new arrivals may have to come first. We’ll see how things play out tonight.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 13:13

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Fifty years ago this time I had arrived at Stony Brook by hitchhiking from the panhandle, of Connect over the Throggs Neck Bridge and out the Island to S.U.N.Y. First time seeing the Dead away from the Fillmore. 1970 rural Long Island would have been a different world from now.
Charlie from Brooklyn was numero uno Dead Freak in those days. I met him before the Halloween shows at the student union. He was playing a cassette he made the night before on a high end recorder, boom box. To my memory that was the first Dead tape I ever heard aside from records. Vintage Dead and then Historic Dead were considered like bootlegs.
I recently listened to the complete night from 10/31/70 during the last full moon October 1, same time as breaking a four month Ganga fast. It was blissfull. Otherworldly. NRPS was great with Garcia on pedal steel. Relisten ing now. I easily bought tickets for the two shows. Although everyone was let in free for late show around midnight. I vaguely recall being on Gymnasium floor for early show. Late show was on the top bleacher on the end closest to the stage not 80’ away. One light projection man had a wizard get up with a pointed hat. Pigpen wore a psychedelic fireman’s hat, (for a few songs)each section was painted a different day-glow color.
After the late show ended (3am or later?) I left the Building out the exits behind the stage. Met Pigpen in passing as he was getting in his limo as I was funneled down the police barricade right behind him. I told him thanks, he asked me “did jya have a good time?” , to which I replied. “Definitely!”, . Pig;”that’s good”. My one time meeting the man.
Afterward vaguely remember catching a ride in a Dodge Challenger that drove close to a 100 mph. Over the dawn Troggs Neck Bridge with no traffic. Dropped off in New Rochelle , got on a train for the last stretch. Home by 8am.
The Viola Lee Blues into Cumberland Blues is so excellent.! Happy Halloween

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 16:31

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Happy Halloween all. Pretty cool Dennis, sounds like a blast. I never made it to a Halloween show.

Yes, GOGD, I watched the Preshow with DL.
I think Jim had some comments on this as well last night....
What a drag, they recorded over some of the master reels for Brent's solo stuff. What a bummer.
They used two 16 track to record the whole run.
Per DL there is definitely material available, fair amount, half or more, but not complete shows. DL stated a multi track box release is not necessarily feasible.
So this stinks.

He did mention they still have the mixdown tapes and the sound is okay.

Could they make a box set from mixdown tapes?

Seemed to me that the Warfield Radio City box is a long shot at best. They looked into it in the early 2000s and we are sitting here in late 2020.

Thank god they didn't record over other tapes. We have had some unbelievable releases.

Stay well out there.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 17:11

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Strider, very cool story meeting Pig Pen. You saw the Grateful Dead at their peak, 1970, their greatest year as far as I'm concerned.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 20:34

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Great times.. wish I was there. Thanks for sharing. The closest I got to a New Years show was 11/1 once. Oh well.

I did finally get through a quite uninterrupted listen of Dekalb. A high energy show with flawless transitions. Still far from my favorite from '77, but it is a great show. Perhaps I am just splitting hairs.

I will say this, this is one of those shows you really need to play loud, from Might As Well to the end.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/01/2020 - 06:43

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Listened to 10/31/70 NRPS early show yesterday. Early show Dead last night with full moon. Viola into Cumberland rocks. Second set this morning at 420 am with coffee, full moon. Today is Todos Santos , All Saints Day or Day of the Dead. Fifty years ago at Pritchard Gym at S.U.N.Y. I remember it took a long time before they opened the doors for the late show. There was a very large crowd at the gym entrance. Nevertheless way less intense than in the city for a Dead show. Sometime after 11pm they finally let everyone in for free, they did not collect tickets. As NRPS was around midnight the late show Dead set was technically November 1, Day of the Dead.

Wow, meeting Pigpen.
That's a keeper for sure.

Strider do you recall your impression of the difference between the Gymnasium vibe and the Fillmore East or what you were thinking about the scene in comparison?
EDIT: Mind Meld Bro!! I see you were just discussing this in your post below 1 minute before I posted this question.
Diff vibe from the city. I'm thinking FE vibe had to be intense!

Also I wonder if that tape Charlie-O was playing came from the SBD that the Sound Crew made?

Thanks for sharing man, Great Story!

In regards to 10/31/70 tape, the Taper's Compendium mentions the following:
Bobby going into "a tirade against some nameless soundman. After Pigpen threatens to rip off the head of the aforementioned sound engineer and defecate in it, the problems seem to get resolved, thereby saving the show from a decline into fecal ultraviolence." - Haha, I love that line.... (Shout Out - Nice work Paul Bodenham & Taper's Compendium Crew!)

However, I don't hear that anywhere on the "tapes" I've got or the sources on Archive.org.
Supposedly it happened after Cosmic Charlie. Anybody got that / hear that on "tape"?

It might be the case where the source mentioned in Taper's Compendium isn't in digital circulation, but now I'm curious what's going on there. If anybody has info on that, let me know as I was looking forward to hearing that all day and darn it, I'm not hearing that anywhere.

Started listening to 2/18/71, it's sounding good friends. Strider was that your next show?
EDIT: Scratch that question you were at all 4 nights at the Cap in November '70. You Lucky Dog You!!!

Alright, well this is probably long enough as I spent some time already today on... 30 Days of the Dead!
Guessed it, if you can call searching through other versions and comparing a guess.
Do people actually just remember the version upon hearing it, or how does that work for you all?
I remember the first year just thinking how in the world do these heads know this shit?!?!?
Now.. I might be there. Is that a good thing? Not sure.

Anyhow, if you read this far, thanks for visiting and I hope you have a wonderful day!
Go play Dead.
I'm gonna finish up 2/18/71 today and might have to do it all over again.
Good stuff!

PS - if this wasn't so long already I would've talked a bit about 1977-10-29 - Sounded ripping / Might As Well is a power house version and the energy seems to stay there, but I was distracted and didn't finish. And 1980 Warfield / Radio City Reels, 2 Track & Multi-Track but it'd all be speculation.

That’s everyday for folks here.

Just started spinning 2-18-71 and it sounds spectacular!

USPS is in possession of my DaP 36, but apparently they have to accept the package. So current status is “received, the acceptance of your package is pending”.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/01/2020 - 11:36

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Mcgaw Memorial Hall.... 11/1/73 Evanston!! Morning Dew>Playing>UJB>Playin!!! Last show of the tour that started in Oklahoma City... Next up Winterland 73 a week later!!! Don't think the first set of 11/1/73 circulates but i could be wrong... The snow has melted here in Rhode Island... Made it through the first Hartford 87 show last night... I cheated and listened to the Wall Song from the upcoming 5/21/71 Jerry show,, really good I have to say... Bob t

Bob T, 11/1/73 that's a good call, Now I wanna give that a listen.
No Set 1 that I'm seeing, anybody got it?

Got caught up in 2/18/71. Wow great sound quality. Really cool to hear Ned's contributions so well. Can't remember if they showed up in the ole bootleg, but they're nicely placed in the mix here. Good stuff.

Whose playing 30 Days Guesses?

Today is fun.

BTW I really dig the 5/12/79 Set 2 material in Taper's Section today.
SBD doesn't circulate so check it out.
Has some reel flips in Terrapin & NFA and a few drop outs in PITB. But if you haven't heard it, it's worth a visit.
I like '79 cool year.

Alright, lmk if there's a pick today.
Lots a Dead a happening.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 12:47

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Send us a pick GOGD.

I am thinking 11/4/77 for Wednesday. Colgate, Dave's #12.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 15:13

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How about 3/26 & 3/27/87?

I just got mine today. Anybody else on here get there's?

Or 2/18/71 needs a nice day of listening...

Couldn't resist, the Dead has landed.

Otherwise give 11/1/73 a listen, it's late in the day and it's only a partial Set 2.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 15:17

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I'm no help.. hopelessly behind again. I'm in for Colgate though. It's been years since I listened to it. ..and fresh off my (our) other recent Fall 77 listen, quite timely. If we did something, something short as the hour is getting late.

Greek 68, 30 Trips, Holfheinz Pavilion 72? Something like that??

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 16:09

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I don't have my Dave's 36, maybe by the end of the week. Don't know why some of us get these so much later than others. Don't blame you for cracking it out.

Shoot, you have people getting them in Europe faster than here in MN.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 16:46

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I was lucky and got Dave's Saturday, and the 2/18/71 show arrived today... (That one just sat in pre-whatever and just showed up US mail).. I am listening to the Omni 6/20/74 show, just started. I listened to 6/8/74 yesterday.. Trying to listen to my neglected 74 shows.... Roanoke is up for tomorrow. have a good night everyone. bob t

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 06:41

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..but I live in the middle of nowhere. Mail still comes via pony express and coal train.

Maybe today?

Roanoke sounds like a good pick for today. I always thought it was one of the lesser shows from '74, but I'll take 'lesser' show from '74 any day of the week. Nice eyes encore. I should get some time later today. Things are beginning to ease up a bit.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 07:39

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On Playing already for end of first set... I know why i gloss over this show, and it is because of set II. There is a 10 minute US Blues that goes into Promised Land.. That is it for the jam. Eyes encore... Well played, good Charlie Miller board. Like i said in previous post, I neglect 6/8 Oakland, 6/20 Atlanta (No tapes available back in the day), Roanoke, and the 9/14 Muenchen show... Bob t

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 09:38

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I'm in. Im not familiar with this show, but it is close to the Selland Arena show. How bad could it be ; )

I hope everyone voted today!!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 10:31

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That PITB is a hot one. Perhaps the highlight of the show. Staring the second set now.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 11:46

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Agreed Jim. I like in the Playin how they break it down about 13 mins in with Jerry doing some nice runs up and down the neck with the wah wah and Billy filling the space with toms.

Im at MAMU in the 2nd set. What really strikes me about this show is how much Keith is on the Rhodes, and how out front in the mix he is. I dont remember him playing a Rhodes for a whole show like this. I'll have to revisit Selland and see if this show may be an outlier.

I really liked the smooth transition from Mississippi to Must Have Been the Roses.

I probably haven't given this show its due because there're no big 2nd set jam, but like Jim said, that 1st set playin is killer and probable makes up for it. I'm looking forward to this Brokedown in the late 2nd set ballad placement, which is a rarity.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 12:49

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All in all a nice show. First set is better than 2nd set, which is odd for this vintage. Mississippi to PITB was the highlight. Not sure what they were trying to do in that US Blues. Seems like Billy didnt get the message or something. They never really righted the ship after that.

Keith was the star of this show though, taking over on the Rhodes. Release worthy? I dont know. Sounds quality is there but the second set fizzles. Maybe one of the last '74s to see the light of day. Still, lots of fantastic music and very glad i spent 3 hours of my work day jamming to this.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 13:19

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Shorter show for 1974. Good show, sound quality is really good for the most part. I really liked Biily's drumming in the summer of 1974. For some reason no Eyes of the World Encore from the version I listened to from Relisten.

Good pick Bob t.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 13:59

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My version doesn't have it either.. Show's how good my memory is. Decent little show. I agree with the comments that a big jam sequence in the second set would have improved this one. Still, some very nice moments.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 18:49

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so last week i zigged while most everybody zagged. went on a '74 search - that's where my main vibe was. first listened to Springfield 6/30 - fantastic show! then Roanoke, with that excellent and very cool Playing, and solid playing overall, and a mysteriously missing major jam sequence but still fun. so its a cool coinkydink to see everybody dialing in on Roanoke last day or so. first night of Jai Alai after that. then Roosevelt Stadium show from 8/6. today was listening to another new '74 for me, the Olympia Hall in Munich 9/14 - there is a really really sweet Usborne matrix of that show - highly recommended! and finished with the last show of that European tour which at times is as deliberate as anything i've heard from that era. morning dew seemed remarkably slow.
i too voted for sanity. be well everybody.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 05:40

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Looking forward to putting this show on today. Short show. Bonus for 11/2/77.

Stay well out there folks.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 06:40

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I found this note on the Archive from Sirmick on his AUD transfer (132282): "A reviewer at archive.org says "This was a weird event-the band was somewhat scared of the crowd which was yelling at them the whole time." and "There was no encore at this concert-the eyes thing is an error perpetuated through the years starting with deadbase. The Dead left after Johnny B Goode and I think they were glad to get out."
https://archive.org/details/gd1974-07-27.akgd200e.unk.sirmick.132282.sb…

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 13:00

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No cavity creeps here!!! Love the Aiko coming out of drums, this one and the RPI Fieldhouse show are my two favs from this era!!! I had an audience tape of this show back in the day that was amazing quality!!! Aiko just coming on... the whole second set is pure bliss!!! Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 18:48

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Disc 3 of Colgate show...... Scarlet>Fire forgot how good it was, I like the Broome County one a few days later but totally forgot about this one... Good night all. Bob t

Yes, Bob t, Disc 3 of Dave's 12 for me might be the best part of this release.

Another chunk of this show appears on Dick's 34. Should we check out 11/5/77, Dick's #34 for tomorrow?

11/2 is a bit under the radar..

This whole release smokes, high energy and excellent recording. I made it through discs 1 and 2, #3 awaits. Good pick Bob. I need a refresher course on this one, it's been a long time.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 11/05/2020 - 05:40

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Is there good video of that show? I heard a young lady came up and gave Jerry a big hug and kiss at the encore.

-edit- A kind soul somehow posted a review of this show IN THE FUTURE YESTERDAY over on Internet Archive. Of course, I was wondering how the heck that happened, maybe minor digital glitch? Anyway here it is to shed light on my recollection and for you to enjoy! :-)

Have a Grateful Day today everybody :-)

Reviewer: MtnHigh73 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 6, 2020
Subject: Bill Walton's Birthday Show... Sweater Incident
I was at the show. It was one of my first Dead shows and a memorable one, and I want to set the record straight...

Love the crystal clear soundboard recording...
Lots of mention of Boston Celtics players sighted at this show, and to set the record straight. This was "Bill Walton's Birthday" show, and at the beginning of the 2nd set, the band came out. Bobby announced, "It's our buddy Bill Walton's birthday (with full echo effect), and we'd like to sing happy birthday to him, and you can all join in...". You can hear the end of happy birthday on this awesome soundboard version... the audience version of this show has the full announcement before Shakedown.

Anyways this show ripped, and my twin brother and I (not a head) dosed and were in the 1st 10 rows for the entire 2nd set. Memory is a whirlwind of sights and sounds, but I remember dancing my ass off to the Good Lovin'.

THE BEGINING OF THE ENCORE (capitalized because I went on to see more than a hundred shows after this and never saw the next thing happen ever again)... a woman jumped on to the stage with a thick wool-like sweater that buttoned down in the front. She DRAPED THE SWEATER OVER JERRY'S SHOULDERS... just as he started to sing the opening lines to Brokedown Palace... then she was ushered off the stage. The sweater remained on his shoulders the majority of the song, and by the end, it was hanging by one arm off of Jerry. I distinctly remember seeing the woman join her friends back a few rows in front of us during the encore. I'm getting goosebumps writing and recalling this... after the show, my brother and I, two sweaty 16-year-olds leaving the Centrum, and my twin brother turned to me and said: " We got closer to Jerry Garcia then some people do in their entire lifetime!".

The next morning, burnt out catching a ride with my Dad to school, the local Boston radio station announced, " the Celtics were off last night and Bird, Mchale and Ainge accompanied Bill Walton to a Grateful Dead show in Worcester"... goosebumps.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/05/2020 - 19:37

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I never burned this Dick's Picks. So When I put it into my computer, love that a picture of the Lincoln, NE/ Salt Lake City 73 Dick's Picks CD picture shows up.....Just got to the Phil Jam>Eyes of CD #2.... Anyone in the mood for June 29, 1976 Chicago tomorrow... Big fan of the 5th and final Mission in the Rain!!! Good night all... Bob t

This is a gem in my book Bob t. Of course the chop job, but it is still really good.

I am up for 6/29/76, hope there is a good board out there. Mission in the Rain!

Big fan too.. I think the best of the few played.

I'm in. I did the first set of the first show in the June 76 box yesterday on my bike ride. I was in the mood for some crystal clear dead and it was in the device I picked up.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/06/2020 - 06:55

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Deadvikes there is a really good board as well as a FM copy from WXRT.. That whole June tour had the last show of whatever stop broadcast.. Jim i also agree with the crystal clear sound of the 76 box!! Surprised that Mission in the Rain didn't make it two weeks later into the Orpheum run in San Francisco. Bob t

I am working my way through it late. The Betty is sounding good. Another show that was part of the ABCD LLC transaction. Maybe some day.

My Dave's 36 is now scheduled for tomorrow. We will see. Love this system.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 09:45

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Maybe a little Crotchfester from 11/7&8/85 sometime this weekend, perhaps extra credit as GOGD would say....
By the way, where is that rascal?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 10:00

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I'm doing 11/7/71 today.

I have not listened to the War Memorial shows yet.. I would be interested to check them out.

I'm in.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 10:27

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Have garage work to do: sanding etc so need some good working music! Plus, I’ve been doing the “five year anniversary” plan for years since it’s hard and very limiting to try and do every anniversary. So for instance this year being a “0” that means I shoot for 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, and 95. Since that still leaves a lot, next criteria is shows from those years I was at, thus, going 85...but,
Have been starting a 71 bender though as I went totally grateful yesterday after grueling gig with no tunes this week.
Vegged out to 2/18/71 and was digging it so much followed up with 2/19/71...perfect as I was so whooped I don’t think I could have fully grasped a big spacey show, and Rockin later years would have been too much energy in my delicate state lol.
Realized, that there isn’t much difference between sets then, meaning 2/18 at least is like 2 bookend sets. They both are mostly just songs, with one tasty smaller jam at the end. I need to find more early 71 jams, like biggins’ if there are any? Where’s GOGD or DOC when ya need em? ; )
Definitely going to Poke around there as time allows. Really hoping to finally get to 10/19/73 tomorrow if time allows a full immersion. Haven’t givin that one a spin in a while and it always calls to me in the fall.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 13:27

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Been preoccupied. Will consider what to write about being there fifty years ago. Attended all four nights.
David Lemeiux was born November 8, 1970. Must have been something in the ethers that day. Pre-destined.
My late brother Rick was at the Harding Theater one of those nights 49 years ago.

I've listened to this show once.. I am going to try and give it a second listen.

I love the last half of this comment from setlists.net

"Finally, the space interlude in the Dark Star is some of the scariest Dead I have ever laid ears on. Its like the Book of Revelation--it'll scare the crap out of you. Listen to it at one in the morning with no lights on, at a loud volume, alone, and check back with me. WOW!"