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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #6691
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    Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

    I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

    To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

    One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

    Peace

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    Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

    Bode Miller...

    First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
    Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

    SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
    Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
    While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
    Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
    6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

    So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
    FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....

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    If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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    Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

    Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

    I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

    Tell us more.

    And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

    I agree, it always sounds great to me.

    Enjoy party people!

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    We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
    BS CORP
    WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.

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    Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

    Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
    Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
    hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
    So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
    Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
    Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
    Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
    But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
    Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
    Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
    I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
    So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
    Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
    Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
    Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!

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    but there are black clouds building on the horizon here. Looks like a thunderous day on the river is in store for me. Got my waterproof device loaded with 6/27/85, thanks to the gentle steering of the GOGD.

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    Ran into a rainstorm, indeed!

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    Pick?

    GOGD has some momentum with SPAC 85.

    Don't hang off the balcony... (which we later found out was VGuy and Keithfan) :D

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    This is your up to the minute water report...

    46 years ago today From The Mars Hotel was released
    33 years ago today 10th row Phil Side at Alpine Valley on a sunny afternoon :)
    5 years ago today Fare Thee Well started in Santa Clara CA

    We now return to your regularly scheduled program.

    Have a Grate Day!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 10:48

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For Fightin' And Complainin', Lord We Should Be Having Fun!
- Bob Weir 12/31/71

Ahoy Matey's!

Did I hear something about 1970 going on today?

Happy Birthday David Lemieux!
You young pup you... Gotcha by almost 5 months ;)

I fell down a new release & 30 Days of the Dead wormhole... coming through the other side today with some lingering 1971 playing in the background.

Caught bits of 11/7/71 yesterday, the good bits! That's a tasty Dark Star.
2/18/71 is sounding Awesome.
3/26/87 & 3/27/87 are representing Spring '87 Tour in the official release canon.
All and all, the energy and the excitement is there. And most present, the 1987 Spring Tour Roar!!!
(Note: These are probably the best recordings from that tour, due to Healy's UltraMatrix experiment going on this year. My guess would be the official release are as good as they're going to sound. So you get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as we used to say to my daughter.)
And 30 Days of the Dead has been fun, I'm 8 for 8, isn't that great?!?!

11/3/20 threw me off and after spending too much time figuring out which version of Good Time Blues I was hearing, I've been playing catch up all week on my GD time allotment.
Plus I've been learning some cool CSS stuff, and let's not forget there's been an historic election.
So there's all my excuses for not regaling you all with my colorful commentary this week, but I was here in spirit.

By the way yesterday's 30 DOTD show 7/25/74.. that Dark Star!!! Love it!
I don't think we've done that one yet, we should make that a pick one of these Days.

OB: Sounds like we've been in the '71 space time continuum together. Not too many jams in the early months of that year, 3/18/71 Caution is worth seeking out for sure, and then the only thing coming to mind is 4/29/71, which is legend.

The jams really start to pick up once Keith joins the band, prior to that, they're crafting new songs and giving those the once over twice. If there's some jammy jams that you all know of in the early months of '71, let us know. But from what I recall, they're all pretty short. November '71 was sounding good yesterday, and this 12/31/71 I stumbled into is like the best NYE show I've listened to all day ;)

November 8th 1970? Ironically that's kind of the last big jammy month from what we have before the early 1971 saloon Dead begins to take shape. The December 1970 stuff really sounds like a prelude to early 1971.

Looking forward to those November Capitol Theatre stories Strider.
I want to hear all about it. The scene, the color of the curtains, who did the light show, what cartoons they played during intermission, all the deets!!

Alright, good to see you're all still rockin' the tunes.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 11:52

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I listened to 11/8/70 this morning on relisten including NRPS. I highly recommend it for a listen on this half century mark. I wrote down impressions and thoughts and mined memories. Will just say that for now.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 13:47

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The song selection is all over the map. It reminds me of Dylan and the Band at Big Pink. Was there with Kirk and Judy. We sat in pretty good balcony seats. Of a few bands and nine Dead shows I went to at the Capitol Theater 11/8/70 was my only time sitting in the balcony. The big-O -Otis was there, liked the balcony the best.
Started listening 5am. The acoustic set was fantastic opening with Dire Wolf and then slow version I Know You Rider.Was gettin jiggy during Rosalie Mcfall and operator .
NRPS set with Jerry and Mickey was standard 1970. Garcia’s pedal steel guitar was always so sweet . Any NRPS recordings are worth hearing.
The Dead’s electric set was also spectacular. Morning Dew opener wow! Only time Mystery Train was played, First Around and Around . Truckin has an interesting fall 1970 unique jam sounding Chicago Blues back into slow shuffle, killer. Baby Blue was one of the best versions I’ve ever heard from the Dead. First verse only.Dark Star with spectacular post 1st verse jam, space/feed back. The Celtic art work and plaster work on the Capitol walls glowed purple . The Dead did not have a light show at the Capitol like at the Fillmore. February 71 were only slides for the ESP experiment. The band was in top form November 8th, at the same time David Lemeiux was being born. Auspicious.
I was way impressed with the quality of the audience tape. Not the highest quality audio but the historical aspect of that particular night and set list.
I count my lucky stars to have been 16 fifty years ago and lived 15 miles from the Capitol Theater.

I agree with the quality of the 11/8/70 audience tape, one recorded by Ken and Judy Lee. Ancient and historic. If you haven't read this, check it out. For most of 1970, if there was not tapers in the audience, the shows might as well not have happened....

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2009/08/short-guide-to-1970-audience-tap…

Sort of like the 1970 Good Lovin' > La Bamba > Good Lovin'
If the tape didn't survive, we would not know it happened.

"11-11-70 is a wild, long show, with the first La Bamba in Good Lovin (I don't think they repeated this for 17 years!), and an hour-long series of jams with Jack Casady & Jorma Kaukonen; unfortunately the recording is pretty poor."

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-11-11.aud.cotsman.17081.sbeok.shnf

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 15:11

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I just did the 9th a couple months ago.. did we do that one here?

I might skip it and do the 10th and 11th.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 18:26

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Yes, we did this one in the Spring. I think it was Bolo's pick. He was there! Where is Bolo?

Time to check in Bolo.

I am marching on with the full box run, because it is so damn good. First release with Plangent. I remember when Bolo started this in March, holy crap.

Stay well folks.

And Happy Birthday Dave L.

I will be joining you in the 50 club next month. Can't believe it.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 05:51

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Causing geopolitical mayhem no doubt. With elections over, perhaps we they will give him a day or two off.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 06:13

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What a great box set, in the top 3 of all time box sets. It's right there with Fillmore West and Europe 72. My brother went to 11/9/73, he had a great time.

Wow!

November 8, 1970 is one of the all time great shows, it also seems like a sign post of sorts.
Last 1970 Acoustic set (as far as we know)
The End of Primal Dead

Primal Dead... that's the stuff man. But it definitely came to an end as the band evolved. To me hearing this show and then looking at what we have on tape after this, this show feels like it's the last one where you just really didn't know where the music would take the band. It's raw and powerful and you can tell they're just feeling it and it's going places. After this, they still went places, but in my opinion with much more focus and control, this stuff here... this is just anything goes and nobody knows kinda Dead.
Primal Dead.

It's hard to say if any other shows in November or early December reach this level of improvisational freedom and continuity, but from what we have on tape. This is the last true example of that.
Again, this is all my opinion. But suffice to say, listen to this show in it's entirety before you die.

Love it!

And as for the recording, I'd always listened to the recordings that Ken Lee made from this run as well as the June Capitol run, but yesterday I stumbled on to the Marty Weinberg recording and I have to say, it's quite enjoyable.
Maybe better than Ken's? Not sure... but worth a listen.

Marty's Legendary status has outlived his tapes. Not that many exist, and even those that do, aren't typically the best versions in comparison, but this might be his best remaining recording.

And, here's what he had to say about this show -
In regards to the Capitol run 11/5 - 11/8 - "In many ways, those shows were the best… The audience was very sophisticated. At those shows…there wasn’t a lot of clapping at weird times. It was an older audience, and the people listened… I was sitting in the first few rows of the theater with a lot of people who were true believers, who went to a lot of shows, and who really understood the better shows… You had a group of people in the first twenty rows that knew a good show..."

For 11/8 Marty said - "It was a very magical show."
Nuff said.. he's right, it was and is a VERY magical show.

Strider, thanks for the inside insight. Man, I wish I coulda been there with you. The stuff you saw my friend, was the stuff to see!

Great blog posts about this show at deadessays.blogspot

If anyone has the Taper's Compendium Addendum please let me know, I'd really like to read the whole Marty Weinberg interview!

Alright, moving on to 11/9/73 you say?
Far out, based on my list, we haven't officially done that show, we did 11/10/73 on 4/27/20 and that may have been Bolo's first show... but maybe he can clear that up?

What say you Bolo?

Good stuff.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 16:17

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On the Weather Report Suite... The Playing and Here Comes Sunshine are awesome... Agree with Billy the Kid about this being top three box set release. I actually listen to this box the most... The Dark Star from the 11th is my go to Dark Star that has been released... Bob T

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 18:51

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....got it for $79.99 I believe.
Kicked the can on the 1977 one. Then it skyrocketed in price.
I think I got the better of the two. I think 🤔
Time to spin 11.9.73 with Patriots/Jets in the background.

You definitely got the better of the two boxes, but in truth.. they are both awesome. I just don't reach for the '77 one nearly as often.

Agree with the number three box rating too. What a sweet little box.

I remember when it came out reading about complaints on the sound quality. I was like, whaaaaT? I guess you can see their points if you are comparing this to your favorite studio album, but this is late 1973 Grateful Dead, basically in the months leading up to Wall of Sound. It sounds farkin wonderful to me, and the music/performances, USDA Grade AAA+.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 09:54

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...I was just slipping into the PITB from 10/19 when I came here and you bastards had to dangle the 73 Winterland box at me, Dooaahh! Most def top shelf box for this kid. Never listen to W77...hell haven’t listened to this in forever with all the other gazillion things I’ve picked up the last few years lol. Nice problem to have I know.
Don’t actually have either of those, since back then I wasn’t so into it (getting more stuff), didn’t have much disposable income, and my cousin was getting it all (some for free!) so I had access to the music....FF to now...Idiot! Even with all that I can’t believe I didn’t pick this one up seeing as how fall 73 has always been a top fav. 77 meh, good shit but not a personal go to so that one doesn’t bother me much, but Winterland 73.....sigh!
But hey, at least I have this awesome music, so off we go, starting with 11/9, my day by the way, and onward!
Live Dead for dessert!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 12:28

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Thanks for steering me in this direction thoroughly enjoying this; Big Playing, awesome HCSS, To Lay me down, WRS, Eyes, Stella, yee-gads forgot how great this one is...and now off to “electronic spiders” 😱

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 14:59

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Working my way through it. 11/9 is so damn good. Love that first set closer Playing. To Lay Me Down, I agree Oroborous, is a highlight. Love the 73-73 versions of this tune.

Just finished the first set of 9/10 and it is smoking. I might need through Thursday to get through these three shows if Bob t gives it the green light.

This was the last box set before Rhino took over....

Dedicated to the memory of Don Pearson.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 16:16

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Awesome little Box!
Got it when it first came out and listened to it so extensively that I got a little bored and moved on to other releases, but still listened to it a few times a year.

Last night as I was playing the 9th, I did think to myself, “self, PNW Box might have better sound quality”.
No worries though because I like both Boxes and will keep listening to both.

What’s really awesome is that the official release collection is getting so big that there is always a lot to choose from, especially if you listen to all years.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 18:30

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Ok so the first time they ever split Playin was the famous 10/18/72 Fox theatre.. They go on and shelf that idea for a year, bring it back split in Omaha on 10/21/73, and again on 10/27/73 in Indy... Then in Evanston on 11/1/73 we get the Morning Dew>Playin>UJB>Playin... A week or so later we get this beautiful peace of musical magic!!! How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop... the world will never know!!! P.S. Deadvikes take all the time you want, to quote the Simpsons, "Eat all you want, take all you'll eat!" Bob t

Hey you guys that missed out on getting the 73 Winterland box put yourself in my place. I had tickets to all three shows and gave them away. I was in college at the time. The shows were Friday Saturday and Sunday night and I had a huge test on Monday so I gave them to a friend and stayed home and studied. Not a day goes by...

I did catch the San Diego show a couple days later though.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 04:28

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That stings.

Still, a cool story, MH. It happened to a lot of us, but in most cases not for such a glorious run of shows.

They are some of my favorites...

Bob T: Nice synopsis!
PITB is my favorite subject.

The palindrome versions are a thing of beauty and I never get tired of hearing them.
I am noticing after revisiting 11/1/73 the other day, that I like it when Morning Dew gets it's final closing phrase, but I digress. That's the Dew not the Playin'.

I wonder what type of conversations happened within the band around the development of Playing In The Band as a jam vehicle.

Ironically we've listened to some of the key sign posts recently: 11/8/70 - final Main Ten, 2/18/71 first time played, 5/26/72 first break out of the 7/4 time. Definitely key in the development of this AWESOME song.

Then the shows you mentioned: the epic 10/18/72 split, return of the split on 10/21/73 & 10/27 and the 11/1/73 split. And yesterday, the first Palindrome. Just killer killer stuff.
(Shot out: I'm really digging 11/9/73 PITB, can't stop listening to it. It stands alone)

Playing In The Band RULES!

But today... It's all about the Dark Star :)

PS - MH ohhh that's a heartbreaker!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 07:49

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Playing
Truckin/Other One
Dark Star

They’re all awesome!

Mmmmmm........psychedelic jam.......

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 07:53

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As great as 11/10 is, I think I really dug 11/9 more, and yes that playin is spectacular!
So did 11/9, 11/10, and Live Dead.....perhaps not a true DHBrewer hatrick, but you’d think I’d at least get the third star lol.
So today looking forward to the big finale and that awesome Dark Star!
Onward!

MH: can’t imagine having to live with that “choice” lol, Dooaahh stooopppiid education!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 09:14

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That is a bummer that you missed those shows MHammond, pretty sweet you saw the San Diego show, Iove that show.

I was thinking yesterday as I was listening to this wonderful 73 boxset, if I could pick one month to go back in time to see the Dead, it would be November 73.

Would love to hear about that San Diego show if you care to share?

Good work Oroborous, 11/9 and 11/10 in one day! I am still working on 11/10 today. Too much other stuff going on this week. I will get caught up.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:02

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Sometimes it's the words left unsaid that mean the most.

A few years after Winterland '73 a couple to a few mini me's appeared on the scene and are now perhaps as big a fans as their old man..

Pulling from memory of what was written years ago on these threads, they have seen several (many?) shows of varied configuration including an evening with DSO. Dad was getting texts of the songs and putting together the setlist and they collectively figured out the show. Low and behold they got a redux of 5/7/72 Bickershaw Festival, Wigan, certainly one of the great shows in GD history.

So maybe that weekend he invested in digesting and retaining information played a part in bringing another generation into the fold. Sometimes the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. I hope I didn't overreach in writing this.

Now, back to 10/10/73 (yes, I am day behind)

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:21

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You are the master at putting lipstick on a pig. Yes staying home that weekend helped to solidify my relationship with my girlfriend who is now my wife and mother of my 2 children and all 4 of us are deadheads and have been to many shows together. All because I stayed home that weekend. I'm gonna go with that. Thanks.

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 13:00

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I was living in the dorms at the time and a large group of us were going to concerts together at the Sports Arena all the time. Tons of great bands were touring at the time (Allman Brothers, Zappa, Traffic, Leon Russell etc...) and the dorm had 4 camps so to speak. West Coast Acid Rock (Dead), Classic Rock (Stones etc), Southern (Allmans), and the Bowie fans. The hype around the Dead at the time was nonexistent and the Sports Arena was configured to house about 2/3rds capacity but there was still plenty of room on the floor. The following account is not upheld by listening to this show from TTATS (the first set sounds pretty good) but these are my memories. The first set wasn't very good and by the start of the second set I had made my way down front and center and the mood was kind of ugly. One guy in particular kept yelling "Ace get your act together!" as the band tuned up for the second set. And the rest is history. They started with Truckin at what seemed like twice the volume of the first set and shut everybody up fast and I don't think they stopped playing until the end of the show including an Other One jam like no other. We all walked out of the Arena exhausted but with that big post Dead concert smile on our face. Later I started hearing Wake Of The Flood being played a lot in the dorm. A lot of converts made that night.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 16:28

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Sounds like you made the right choice, family wise .

Is your DX80 still working?
Mine died. Started skipping and crashing, and then actually started playing the music backwards. Software reinstalls didn’t fix it. I’ve been meaning to turn it on and let the battery run out and see if that does anything.

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 17:26

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Still works like a charm. Love it. Thanks for the rec.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 17:52

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That’s great.
I like that model because it has an optical out port and my stereo has optical in ports.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 18:13

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Been busy with November 73 and 77 anniversary listens (doing 77 in the car which takes longer, so just finished 11-4 today as I got home from work).

But anyway, my point.
Just realized that yesterday was the anniversary of 11-10-67.
Playing the digital file now, but also have the vinyl which I’m going to play this weekend.
To me the vinyl sounds way better on this release.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 19:50

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That is great, thanks for sharing. So interesting to hear about this show and the first set. Being there is always different than hearing the show later in life.
And how true that the Dead were not that big in 1973. What is great for you and a lot of us is that we were able to see them live. And how lucky we all are that they toured so much and recorded and kept almost all of their shows (cough cough with the exception of Warfield Radio City).

I do have a good Wake of Flood Album story, but I will save that for another day.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/12/2020 - 11:39

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Meandering through archive now that Winterland anniversary is over, and I found an Owsley Audience copy of this show... Playing in the Band, Promised Land, Ramble on Rose, Me and Bobby Mcgee... and then Dark Star>Philo Stomp>Morning Dew... I never have given this a fair listen before.... I have been missing a lot!!!! The rest of the show if from a different source... Saw there is a board of 11/12/72 also from Soldiers and Sailors going to listen after this one.... Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/12/2020 - 19:19

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Not good... zero drums or piano, and vocals are distant... I tried a few songs and jumped around... 11/13/72 Bear's audience is awesome!!! Bob t

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 06:18

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That's the Universe talking Jim!

For some reason 11/13/72 made me wander to 11/26/72, as I believe that Dark Star has a big Philo Stomp too, or at least a bass solo.

Anyhow.. Definitely a show worth exploring.
Bird Song, Box, Playing, Dark Star, Brokedown all kindsa good stuff and it's 72.

Just saying.. The Universe may be pointing to the San Antonio Civic Auditorium.

BTW: Speaking of the Universe. The Grateful Dead is currently in the record charts -
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9483612/grateful…

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 09:39

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I mean.. Slow Dog ;)
Noodle.

Let's do it.
Circulating SBD is a little skeevy, but wth.

11/26/72 San Antonio Civic Auditorium here we come..

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 13:23

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Show ends with Stella Blue, I Need Bertha's Good Lovin'.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 06:47

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11/26/72, delayed approach. I do live in New Mexico. Or is it just a case of arrested development.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 07:58

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Than Never.

San Antonio 72 is worth the trip.

Man, they played some good shows that year.
(I know, duh.. but it's still amazing me just how good they were in '72 even after all these years. And that's why I love 1972)

Speaking of love... this ole bootleg could use some!
We got 3 sources available online currently.
I'm not a fan of shnid=127478 "restoration" from 2014, too much digital processing on that for my ears. I'll take the muffled hiss of the first 2.
Secondly the cleaned up version of Dark Star with patched reel flip in Me And Bobby Mcgee of shnid=123022 from 2013 is a must to have in addition to the original shnid=9248 from 2004.

Man I love digital collecting.

You don't have to make room or spend money on tapes, just collect the stuff you want organize it and listen to it and drift off into a wonderful blissful dreamy landscape of Dead.

Which I hope is where this Bird Song, Playing In The Band, Dark Star, Brokedown took / takes you all.
I gotta listen to all of those again today :)

Enjoy!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 08:45

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Okay, what is the pick today?

I did receive my AB release yesterday. Man those Port Chester shows are fun and the band was playing really well. Sound quality is A++