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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1281
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    Music is the best means we have of digesting time......

    ROCKTHING.............

    Check your PMs...........

    Music is the one incorporeal entrance into the higher world of knowledge which comprehends mankind but which mankind cannot comprehend........

    Rock on,

    Doc
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    Hey rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Austin, Texas February 23, 1970

    I reluctantly discussed this at the end of last year. Here I am again. It appears that I’m stuck in a time warp. The galactic rock and roll union. I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious…..

    It appears that the currently circulated recording of this show is the only surviving audio document from the Dead’s four show excursion through Texas in February 1970. It’s tough coming right after the wonderful, brilliant Fillmore West/Fillmore East shows earlier that month, and perhaps it’s not unexpected that the intensity level might come down a bit. That being said, this is still interesting, enjoyable, and worthy…..

    The band is in 1970 electric/acoustic/electric mode. The circulating recording appears to be missing part of the first electric set, coming in during Know You Rider. For fans of acoustic Dead, this set is nice---Monkey And The Engineer-Little Sadie-Me And My Uncle-Black Peter-Seasons Of My Heart-Uncle John's Band. The festivities are completed with a jammy NFA and Mason’s Children.

    The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind. I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the years of maturity……

    Did Bear travel to Texas, and did he record? Banana boxes, reveal thy mysteries…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods……

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    >daverock>

    The vocal dropouts are not evident in the audience tape, so that must have happened on the way to the board tape.

    That said, the recording is slightly overpowered by Jerry and Bob's guitars from the taper's vantage point, but a little time with a simple Equalizer was enough to bring more Phil and better presence to the vocals. I do recall a few lyric flubs with the new material, but in the overall mix it didn't really jump out at me. Probably much more obvious in the official release/soundboard recording.

    2/22/69>
    Oh, my. I can see this is gonna send me on a primal quest. I have all these fall '69 and fall '68 shows that I've never listened to, but I don't have much from the spring of those years. I love this gentle psychedelia. It's really these delicate type of sounds that really trigger the senses. I'm only up to Dark Star at this point, but what a beautiful way to start a show.... oops, "The transitive diamonds?" Haha. I'd probably have trouble remembering my name if I were there, so whatever.

    It's such a shame that we're restricted to streaming this show. Imho, if the official release isn't so significantly better sounding than one of these circulating boards that it isn't a no-brainer to buy it, then what's with the classism, eh? I know the boys need a retirement plan... but... --mini rant off--

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    Rockthing - good notes on this show - cheers! I'm going through it very slowly, but it's the L.P. I am listening to. Although it has the famous vocal drop outs, the sound and balance of the instruments sounds fine throughout to me. I have just played the side with Loose Lucy and Money Money on. A short side. The lyrics are a bit naff on both of them - but I like the music, and they were both played so rarely that when they do crop up, it's a welcome surprise to me.
    I presume the version you have listened to has the earlier vocal dropouts too.

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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 10:48

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For Fightin' And Complainin', Lord We Should Be Having Fun!
- Bob Weir 12/31/71

Ahoy Matey's!

Did I hear something about 1970 going on today?

Happy Birthday David Lemieux!
You young pup you... Gotcha by almost 5 months ;)

I fell down a new release & 30 Days of the Dead wormhole... coming through the other side today with some lingering 1971 playing in the background.

Caught bits of 11/7/71 yesterday, the good bits! That's a tasty Dark Star.
2/18/71 is sounding Awesome.
3/26/87 & 3/27/87 are representing Spring '87 Tour in the official release canon.
All and all, the energy and the excitement is there. And most present, the 1987 Spring Tour Roar!!!
(Note: These are probably the best recordings from that tour, due to Healy's UltraMatrix experiment going on this year. My guess would be the official release are as good as they're going to sound. So you get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as we used to say to my daughter.)
And 30 Days of the Dead has been fun, I'm 8 for 8, isn't that great?!?!

11/3/20 threw me off and after spending too much time figuring out which version of Good Time Blues I was hearing, I've been playing catch up all week on my GD time allotment.
Plus I've been learning some cool CSS stuff, and let's not forget there's been an historic election.
So there's all my excuses for not regaling you all with my colorful commentary this week, but I was here in spirit.

By the way yesterday's 30 DOTD show 7/25/74.. that Dark Star!!! Love it!
I don't think we've done that one yet, we should make that a pick one of these Days.

OB: Sounds like we've been in the '71 space time continuum together. Not too many jams in the early months of that year, 3/18/71 Caution is worth seeking out for sure, and then the only thing coming to mind is 4/29/71, which is legend.

The jams really start to pick up once Keith joins the band, prior to that, they're crafting new songs and giving those the once over twice. If there's some jammy jams that you all know of in the early months of '71, let us know. But from what I recall, they're all pretty short. November '71 was sounding good yesterday, and this 12/31/71 I stumbled into is like the best NYE show I've listened to all day ;)

November 8th 1970? Ironically that's kind of the last big jammy month from what we have before the early 1971 saloon Dead begins to take shape. The December 1970 stuff really sounds like a prelude to early 1971.

Looking forward to those November Capitol Theatre stories Strider.
I want to hear all about it. The scene, the color of the curtains, who did the light show, what cartoons they played during intermission, all the deets!!

Alright, good to see you're all still rockin' the tunes.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 11:52

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I listened to 11/8/70 this morning on relisten including NRPS. I highly recommend it for a listen on this half century mark. I wrote down impressions and thoughts and mined memories. Will just say that for now.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 13:47

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The song selection is all over the map. It reminds me of Dylan and the Band at Big Pink. Was there with Kirk and Judy. We sat in pretty good balcony seats. Of a few bands and nine Dead shows I went to at the Capitol Theater 11/8/70 was my only time sitting in the balcony. The big-O -Otis was there, liked the balcony the best.
Started listening 5am. The acoustic set was fantastic opening with Dire Wolf and then slow version I Know You Rider.Was gettin jiggy during Rosalie Mcfall and operator .
NRPS set with Jerry and Mickey was standard 1970. Garcia’s pedal steel guitar was always so sweet . Any NRPS recordings are worth hearing.
The Dead’s electric set was also spectacular. Morning Dew opener wow! Only time Mystery Train was played, First Around and Around . Truckin has an interesting fall 1970 unique jam sounding Chicago Blues back into slow shuffle, killer. Baby Blue was one of the best versions I’ve ever heard from the Dead. First verse only.Dark Star with spectacular post 1st verse jam, space/feed back. The Celtic art work and plaster work on the Capitol walls glowed purple . The Dead did not have a light show at the Capitol like at the Fillmore. February 71 were only slides for the ESP experiment. The band was in top form November 8th, at the same time David Lemeiux was being born. Auspicious.
I was way impressed with the quality of the audience tape. Not the highest quality audio but the historical aspect of that particular night and set list.
I count my lucky stars to have been 16 fifty years ago and lived 15 miles from the Capitol Theater.

I agree with the quality of the 11/8/70 audience tape, one recorded by Ken and Judy Lee. Ancient and historic. If you haven't read this, check it out. For most of 1970, if there was not tapers in the audience, the shows might as well not have happened....

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2009/08/short-guide-to-1970-audience-tap…

Sort of like the 1970 Good Lovin' > La Bamba > Good Lovin'
If the tape didn't survive, we would not know it happened.

"11-11-70 is a wild, long show, with the first La Bamba in Good Lovin (I don't think they repeated this for 17 years!), and an hour-long series of jams with Jack Casady & Jorma Kaukonen; unfortunately the recording is pretty poor."

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-11-11.aud.cotsman.17081.sbeok.shnf

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 15:11

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I just did the 9th a couple months ago.. did we do that one here?

I might skip it and do the 10th and 11th.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 18:26

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Yes, we did this one in the Spring. I think it was Bolo's pick. He was there! Where is Bolo?

Time to check in Bolo.

I am marching on with the full box run, because it is so damn good. First release with Plangent. I remember when Bolo started this in March, holy crap.

Stay well folks.

And Happy Birthday Dave L.

I will be joining you in the 50 club next month. Can't believe it.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 05:51

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Causing geopolitical mayhem no doubt. With elections over, perhaps we they will give him a day or two off.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 06:13

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What a great box set, in the top 3 of all time box sets. It's right there with Fillmore West and Europe 72. My brother went to 11/9/73, he had a great time.

Wow!

November 8, 1970 is one of the all time great shows, it also seems like a sign post of sorts.
Last 1970 Acoustic set (as far as we know)
The End of Primal Dead

Primal Dead... that's the stuff man. But it definitely came to an end as the band evolved. To me hearing this show and then looking at what we have on tape after this, this show feels like it's the last one where you just really didn't know where the music would take the band. It's raw and powerful and you can tell they're just feeling it and it's going places. After this, they still went places, but in my opinion with much more focus and control, this stuff here... this is just anything goes and nobody knows kinda Dead.
Primal Dead.

It's hard to say if any other shows in November or early December reach this level of improvisational freedom and continuity, but from what we have on tape. This is the last true example of that.
Again, this is all my opinion. But suffice to say, listen to this show in it's entirety before you die.

Love it!

And as for the recording, I'd always listened to the recordings that Ken Lee made from this run as well as the June Capitol run, but yesterday I stumbled on to the Marty Weinberg recording and I have to say, it's quite enjoyable.
Maybe better than Ken's? Not sure... but worth a listen.

Marty's Legendary status has outlived his tapes. Not that many exist, and even those that do, aren't typically the best versions in comparison, but this might be his best remaining recording.

And, here's what he had to say about this show -
In regards to the Capitol run 11/5 - 11/8 - "In many ways, those shows were the best… The audience was very sophisticated. At those shows…there wasn’t a lot of clapping at weird times. It was an older audience, and the people listened… I was sitting in the first few rows of the theater with a lot of people who were true believers, who went to a lot of shows, and who really understood the better shows… You had a group of people in the first twenty rows that knew a good show..."

For 11/8 Marty said - "It was a very magical show."
Nuff said.. he's right, it was and is a VERY magical show.

Strider, thanks for the inside insight. Man, I wish I coulda been there with you. The stuff you saw my friend, was the stuff to see!

Great blog posts about this show at deadessays.blogspot

If anyone has the Taper's Compendium Addendum please let me know, I'd really like to read the whole Marty Weinberg interview!

Alright, moving on to 11/9/73 you say?
Far out, based on my list, we haven't officially done that show, we did 11/10/73 on 4/27/20 and that may have been Bolo's first show... but maybe he can clear that up?

What say you Bolo?

Good stuff.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 16:17

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On the Weather Report Suite... The Playing and Here Comes Sunshine are awesome... Agree with Billy the Kid about this being top three box set release. I actually listen to this box the most... The Dark Star from the 11th is my go to Dark Star that has been released... Bob T

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 18:51

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....got it for $79.99 I believe.
Kicked the can on the 1977 one. Then it skyrocketed in price.
I think I got the better of the two. I think 🤔
Time to spin 11.9.73 with Patriots/Jets in the background.

You definitely got the better of the two boxes, but in truth.. they are both awesome. I just don't reach for the '77 one nearly as often.

Agree with the number three box rating too. What a sweet little box.

I remember when it came out reading about complaints on the sound quality. I was like, whaaaaT? I guess you can see their points if you are comparing this to your favorite studio album, but this is late 1973 Grateful Dead, basically in the months leading up to Wall of Sound. It sounds farkin wonderful to me, and the music/performances, USDA Grade AAA+.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 09:54

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...I was just slipping into the PITB from 10/19 when I came here and you bastards had to dangle the 73 Winterland box at me, Dooaahh! Most def top shelf box for this kid. Never listen to W77...hell haven’t listened to this in forever with all the other gazillion things I’ve picked up the last few years lol. Nice problem to have I know.
Don’t actually have either of those, since back then I wasn’t so into it (getting more stuff), didn’t have much disposable income, and my cousin was getting it all (some for free!) so I had access to the music....FF to now...Idiot! Even with all that I can’t believe I didn’t pick this one up seeing as how fall 73 has always been a top fav. 77 meh, good shit but not a personal go to so that one doesn’t bother me much, but Winterland 73.....sigh!
But hey, at least I have this awesome music, so off we go, starting with 11/9, my day by the way, and onward!
Live Dead for dessert!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 12:28

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Thanks for steering me in this direction thoroughly enjoying this; Big Playing, awesome HCSS, To Lay me down, WRS, Eyes, Stella, yee-gads forgot how great this one is...and now off to “electronic spiders” 😱

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 14:59

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Working my way through it. 11/9 is so damn good. Love that first set closer Playing. To Lay Me Down, I agree Oroborous, is a highlight. Love the 73-73 versions of this tune.

Just finished the first set of 9/10 and it is smoking. I might need through Thursday to get through these three shows if Bob t gives it the green light.

This was the last box set before Rhino took over....

Dedicated to the memory of Don Pearson.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 16:16

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Awesome little Box!
Got it when it first came out and listened to it so extensively that I got a little bored and moved on to other releases, but still listened to it a few times a year.

Last night as I was playing the 9th, I did think to myself, “self, PNW Box might have better sound quality”.
No worries though because I like both Boxes and will keep listening to both.

What’s really awesome is that the official release collection is getting so big that there is always a lot to choose from, especially if you listen to all years.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 18:30

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Ok so the first time they ever split Playin was the famous 10/18/72 Fox theatre.. They go on and shelf that idea for a year, bring it back split in Omaha on 10/21/73, and again on 10/27/73 in Indy... Then in Evanston on 11/1/73 we get the Morning Dew>Playin>UJB>Playin... A week or so later we get this beautiful peace of musical magic!!! How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop... the world will never know!!! P.S. Deadvikes take all the time you want, to quote the Simpsons, "Eat all you want, take all you'll eat!" Bob t

Hey you guys that missed out on getting the 73 Winterland box put yourself in my place. I had tickets to all three shows and gave them away. I was in college at the time. The shows were Friday Saturday and Sunday night and I had a huge test on Monday so I gave them to a friend and stayed home and studied. Not a day goes by...

I did catch the San Diego show a couple days later though.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 04:28

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That stings.

Still, a cool story, MH. It happened to a lot of us, but in most cases not for such a glorious run of shows.

They are some of my favorites...

Bob T: Nice synopsis!
PITB is my favorite subject.

The palindrome versions are a thing of beauty and I never get tired of hearing them.
I am noticing after revisiting 11/1/73 the other day, that I like it when Morning Dew gets it's final closing phrase, but I digress. That's the Dew not the Playin'.

I wonder what type of conversations happened within the band around the development of Playing In The Band as a jam vehicle.

Ironically we've listened to some of the key sign posts recently: 11/8/70 - final Main Ten, 2/18/71 first time played, 5/26/72 first break out of the 7/4 time. Definitely key in the development of this AWESOME song.

Then the shows you mentioned: the epic 10/18/72 split, return of the split on 10/21/73 & 10/27 and the 11/1/73 split. And yesterday, the first Palindrome. Just killer killer stuff.
(Shot out: I'm really digging 11/9/73 PITB, can't stop listening to it. It stands alone)

Playing In The Band RULES!

But today... It's all about the Dark Star :)

PS - MH ohhh that's a heartbreaker!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 07:49

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Playing
Truckin/Other One
Dark Star

They’re all awesome!

Mmmmmm........psychedelic jam.......

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 07:53

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As great as 11/10 is, I think I really dug 11/9 more, and yes that playin is spectacular!
So did 11/9, 11/10, and Live Dead.....perhaps not a true DHBrewer hatrick, but you’d think I’d at least get the third star lol.
So today looking forward to the big finale and that awesome Dark Star!
Onward!

MH: can’t imagine having to live with that “choice” lol, Dooaahh stooopppiid education!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 09:14

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That is a bummer that you missed those shows MHammond, pretty sweet you saw the San Diego show, Iove that show.

I was thinking yesterday as I was listening to this wonderful 73 boxset, if I could pick one month to go back in time to see the Dead, it would be November 73.

Would love to hear about that San Diego show if you care to share?

Good work Oroborous, 11/9 and 11/10 in one day! I am still working on 11/10 today. Too much other stuff going on this week. I will get caught up.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:02

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Sometimes it's the words left unsaid that mean the most.

A few years after Winterland '73 a couple to a few mini me's appeared on the scene and are now perhaps as big a fans as their old man..

Pulling from memory of what was written years ago on these threads, they have seen several (many?) shows of varied configuration including an evening with DSO. Dad was getting texts of the songs and putting together the setlist and they collectively figured out the show. Low and behold they got a redux of 5/7/72 Bickershaw Festival, Wigan, certainly one of the great shows in GD history.

So maybe that weekend he invested in digesting and retaining information played a part in bringing another generation into the fold. Sometimes the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. I hope I didn't overreach in writing this.

Now, back to 10/10/73 (yes, I am day behind)

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:21

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You are the master at putting lipstick on a pig. Yes staying home that weekend helped to solidify my relationship with my girlfriend who is now my wife and mother of my 2 children and all 4 of us are deadheads and have been to many shows together. All because I stayed home that weekend. I'm gonna go with that. Thanks.

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 13:00

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I was living in the dorms at the time and a large group of us were going to concerts together at the Sports Arena all the time. Tons of great bands were touring at the time (Allman Brothers, Zappa, Traffic, Leon Russell etc...) and the dorm had 4 camps so to speak. West Coast Acid Rock (Dead), Classic Rock (Stones etc), Southern (Allmans), and the Bowie fans. The hype around the Dead at the time was nonexistent and the Sports Arena was configured to house about 2/3rds capacity but there was still plenty of room on the floor. The following account is not upheld by listening to this show from TTATS (the first set sounds pretty good) but these are my memories. The first set wasn't very good and by the start of the second set I had made my way down front and center and the mood was kind of ugly. One guy in particular kept yelling "Ace get your act together!" as the band tuned up for the second set. And the rest is history. They started with Truckin at what seemed like twice the volume of the first set and shut everybody up fast and I don't think they stopped playing until the end of the show including an Other One jam like no other. We all walked out of the Arena exhausted but with that big post Dead concert smile on our face. Later I started hearing Wake Of The Flood being played a lot in the dorm. A lot of converts made that night.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 16:28

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Sounds like you made the right choice, family wise .

Is your DX80 still working?
Mine died. Started skipping and crashing, and then actually started playing the music backwards. Software reinstalls didn’t fix it. I’ve been meaning to turn it on and let the battery run out and see if that does anything.

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 17:26

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Still works like a charm. Love it. Thanks for the rec.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 17:52

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That’s great.
I like that model because it has an optical out port and my stereo has optical in ports.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 18:13

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Been busy with November 73 and 77 anniversary listens (doing 77 in the car which takes longer, so just finished 11-4 today as I got home from work).

But anyway, my point.
Just realized that yesterday was the anniversary of 11-10-67.
Playing the digital file now, but also have the vinyl which I’m going to play this weekend.
To me the vinyl sounds way better on this release.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 19:50

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That is great, thanks for sharing. So interesting to hear about this show and the first set. Being there is always different than hearing the show later in life.
And how true that the Dead were not that big in 1973. What is great for you and a lot of us is that we were able to see them live. And how lucky we all are that they toured so much and recorded and kept almost all of their shows (cough cough with the exception of Warfield Radio City).

I do have a good Wake of Flood Album story, but I will save that for another day.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/12/2020 - 11:39

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Meandering through archive now that Winterland anniversary is over, and I found an Owsley Audience copy of this show... Playing in the Band, Promised Land, Ramble on Rose, Me and Bobby Mcgee... and then Dark Star>Philo Stomp>Morning Dew... I never have given this a fair listen before.... I have been missing a lot!!!! The rest of the show if from a different source... Saw there is a board of 11/12/72 also from Soldiers and Sailors going to listen after this one.... Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/12/2020 - 19:19

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Not good... zero drums or piano, and vocals are distant... I tried a few songs and jumped around... 11/13/72 Bear's audience is awesome!!! Bob t

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 06:18

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That's the Universe talking Jim!

For some reason 11/13/72 made me wander to 11/26/72, as I believe that Dark Star has a big Philo Stomp too, or at least a bass solo.

Anyhow.. Definitely a show worth exploring.
Bird Song, Box, Playing, Dark Star, Brokedown all kindsa good stuff and it's 72.

Just saying.. The Universe may be pointing to the San Antonio Civic Auditorium.

BTW: Speaking of the Universe. The Grateful Dead is currently in the record charts -
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9483612/grateful…

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 09:39

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I mean.. Slow Dog ;)
Noodle.

Let's do it.
Circulating SBD is a little skeevy, but wth.

11/26/72 San Antonio Civic Auditorium here we come..

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 13:23

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Show ends with Stella Blue, I Need Bertha's Good Lovin'.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 06:47

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11/26/72, delayed approach. I do live in New Mexico. Or is it just a case of arrested development.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 07:58

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Than Never.

San Antonio 72 is worth the trip.

Man, they played some good shows that year.
(I know, duh.. but it's still amazing me just how good they were in '72 even after all these years. And that's why I love 1972)

Speaking of love... this ole bootleg could use some!
We got 3 sources available online currently.
I'm not a fan of shnid=127478 "restoration" from 2014, too much digital processing on that for my ears. I'll take the muffled hiss of the first 2.
Secondly the cleaned up version of Dark Star with patched reel flip in Me And Bobby Mcgee of shnid=123022 from 2013 is a must to have in addition to the original shnid=9248 from 2004.

Man I love digital collecting.

You don't have to make room or spend money on tapes, just collect the stuff you want organize it and listen to it and drift off into a wonderful blissful dreamy landscape of Dead.

Which I hope is where this Bird Song, Playing In The Band, Dark Star, Brokedown took / takes you all.
I gotta listen to all of those again today :)

Enjoy!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 08:45

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Okay, what is the pick today?

I did receive my AB release yesterday. Man those Port Chester shows are fun and the band was playing really well. Sound quality is A++