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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #7701
    The Good Ole G…
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    LOL - and then life started again... that's funny!

    Regarding 8/27/72 as close to perfect, I wanted anything similar to that, this show might be the closest thing too it IMO.

    If not, I wanna hear your picks people, what other shows remind of you of Veneta, which I (and maybe many others?) think might be the perfect show.

    And with that from Marin County.. The Grateful Dead

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    So cool to hear those Alpine Memories!

    Two back at ya.

    6/26/87 - 1st Night - Set 2 - China Cat Midi weirdness. The weather was getting ominous, my first show at Alpine, was totally ripped, and I start hearing horns and weird shit, I’m trying to see the stage, thinking is there a guest performer or something, more midi weirdness in Eyes > Drums, I didn’t know what Midi was or how they were doing that, it was eating my mind, by the time they got to the ripping All Along The Watchtower (broke out 6/20/87 that year, so it was new) the weather had gotten pretty dicey, that Watchtower sounded truly Wicked in it’s delivery and tone. The boys laid it on us that night. I bought the ticket and took the ride. It’s a night I’ve always remembered. We slowly strolled out of the show went and found our tent, partied, crashed, woke up and did it again the next day in the sun!

    1988 - 2 shows, break, 2 more shows - Yeah it was hot and dry as dirt that summer as reported. I loved the break day.. we were kids, so not having water didn’t seem to effect us, we were probably drinking soda.. who knows. But we hopped in my buddy’s convertible on the day off, drove around until we spotted a pool in someones back yard, and we all ran and hopped in it to cool off and get a dip, then ran back to the car dripping wet, dived in and sped off. It felt so good, we were so hot and dirty and it was dry as a bone. Sorry folks, but we needed your pool and you weren’t in it.

    At the time I never thought those would be the days, but those were the days!

    THE TAPES:
    Sadly the Alpine tapes seem to have issues.
    1987 - No SBDs in Circulation still! Been waiting for 33 years, and even if we had them, which we don’t, they probably sound like ass, like so many ’87 shows. Healy was experimenting with UltraMatrix that year and lots of ambient noise got baked into most of those tapes.

    1988 - Healy strikes again! Dan was doing some type of panning of the sound through the speakers, I can’t remember where I read / heard, think it was GD Hour, maybe Lemieux. Anyhow, it creates a type of “warble” sound in the recording, I’ve got those SBDs and they’re a bit hard to listen to due to the consistent “warble” through out. All 4 nights have it, I think the last night has it least.

    Another Flash - 6/20/88 - The sun setting as they played Terrapin. I still remember that as a favorite moment, was way back on the hill on the lawn lots a space, just taking it in, looking at the moon. I’d just seen a new Brent Song (Turned out to be first Blow Away unbeknown to us at the time / pre-internet / phones / technology) and that had rocked me, we were big Brent Fans.

    1989 - Well those are some good tapes!!

    But that’s another tale, and I wasn’t at those shows..

    Memories:)

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    Got out of bed way too early for some reason, but had a chance to put on today's pick and listen to most of set 1 without interruption. Really strong 1st set! I love the placement of "Black Peter" and all of the regular tunes are played very well. Just finished with that beautiful "Bird Song" before the wife came down and life started again, so I am going to have to save "Playin'", "Bertha" and the short Set II for later on today, but that 1st set was a great way to start the day!

    For no good reason at all, this is another pick that doesn't get as much play from me, but after this morning's initial listen, I think that is going to change!

    Peace

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    Mark me down with it

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    >>>>>The real kick in the ass is, she also threw away all my pictures, every single one... simply because some contained pics of me that included ex girlfriends.

    That's a shame, a damn shame. The was just before she died in that tragic kayak accident, right? The river was running hard and fast and you begged her not to go out that day. It was only by the grace of GOD did you survive. I read the report about how you kept diving into the cold water time and time again to look for her, but, alas she was gone. But that's one secret you can never tell.

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    @ Good old Grateful Dead: I had to think about this one, that was a long time ago, and it was my first dead show. What I do remember about the show was the crowd, what a cool bunch of people, and the twirlers, my first time seeing them and they were everywhere, in the back, in the halls, in the bathrooms, everywhere there was a space, they were twirling. I'm pretty sure we all dosed that night, we did that a lot in the 70's. I have Dick's picks 29 which has this show and the Atlanta show if I'm not mistaken and the band was in tune and doing the "just exactly perfect" thing but I don't remember one tune they played that night. I also remember the tye dye, it was also everywhere and the stage had a huge tye dye mural in the background, most of the speaker covers were tye dyed too, as were a lot of the crowd.
    I had heard a few dead songs before going to this show and was interested, but not a deadhead yet and believe it or not, this show did not transform me into one, not that night anyway, it was the April 80 show that did that. I remember getting close enough to get a good look at Donna on stage, she was ok but I had seen bands with chick singers and she just did not impress me. I prefered Grace who in my opinion had a much better voice and was just lovely to look at. With that said I do believe that it was Donna that left me uninspired and the main reason I did not get on the bus that night. I think a lot has to happen for one to get "it" and this performance just didn't have it and the civic center, even tho it was newish, having opened in the 70's, it was still a cavern with not the best acoustics. But three years later, I jumped on the bus big time and turned a lot of younger heads later on to this band, still my favorite band after 40 + years.

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    Fox Th. 1980 matrix?

    Did Bolo24 just say were are getting another Fox Th. 1980 matrix? woohoo!

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    "What’s your Favorite Year seeing shows?"

    I would have to go with '89. Saw shows spring summer and fall and they were all great shows.

    Civic Arena Pittsburgh both nights. released
    Closing JFK Philadelphia. released audio and video
    Spectrum Philadelphia all three nights. will be released one day

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    Alpine 87-88. Those were some unbelievable times.
    Like Jim, I do not remember all the shows song by song like some others do, but, for some reason the first night of the 87 Alpine run, I can still remember the Feel Like a Stranger opener and my buddies and I running down the hill to try and find a spot. I always remember the Tons of Steel from that night as well. What a time! 87 for us was different from our first experience at Alpine in 86. Of course it was two weeks or so after that Jerry slipped into the comma. At the time, I didn't think we would get to see the band again. What a run after that!
    GOGD, do you remember the drought in 88 at Alpine? It was crazy. We had campers in those days 87-89. I just remember 88 was so hot and we always had tons of people coming to our camper looking for water. In those days, we had tons of beer, but not much water.
    Some of my best memories of all those years at Alpine was after the shows in the parking lot talking to other heads about all aspects of the shows, the band, Jerry, what the encore will be the next night, etc. Similar to what we do here. Man, seems like so long ago, but I think about those days a lot and no band has ever come close to that feeling of seeing the Dead live. There are a huge group of people here that were at those shows at Alpine, this one is for you guys and gals!
    At some point in time, we will see some of these late 80s Alpine shows released.

    My wife has asked me as I am watching the Shakedown Stream shows, we will see you in the crowd on some of these?
    My response, only if they play Downhill from Here.

    Stay well.

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    4/19/82, Baltimore Civic Center. Don't need no stinking ticket stub to remember that. Electric.

    Buckeye Lake.... fun indeed.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 09:02

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DV - Yes sir, them Port Chester Multi-Tracks are the bomb!

Slow Dog Noodle requested 3/14/81 audience recording by Barry Glassberg.

So it would appear that '81 is in the air.

Good year that '81.

listening to the 2/18/71 DS>>Rat>>DS, 11/11/73 disc 3, and the second set of 10/19/73....I think it’s become a grounded vindaloop?
Wanna try that 81 I f I cou ld j u st br e a k f r ee!

EDIT: Barry Glassberg? Isn’t that Barry from Sundance Books still located in downtown Geneseo NY?
Used to get our tapes from Barry and Fred way BITD! Good people!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 10:45

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OB: That's a good question!
Unfortunately, I'm afraid I don't know the answer.
Anybody on here got the scoop?

I do know that Barry is in the class of "legendary tapers" and is often mentioned along with Jerry Moore and Rob Bertrando. So yeah, top of the class.

One thing I did find out about Barry Glassberg today is:
He made a fuckin' excellent recording of the Grateful Dead at Hartford Civic Center on 3/14/81!
Damn, this sounds good.
And the Sugaree just slayed me.

Nice pick Slow Dog Noodle!

I like the direction of the discussion on Anniversaries today ICECRMCNKD
11/15/71 & 11/15/72 look like they have my name on em.

I'ma gonna dust these two gems off and shine them up for the old ear holes.

Hot Dog!

I mean, Slow Dog...
Noodle.
Dug the 3/14/81 show, thanks for the pick.
That lead into Stella Blue where Jerry visits Bach's Jesu, joy of man's desiring is dreamy.
And great recording, I was glad to see that was indeed the recording that I had in my collection.
Along with the Set 2 SBD.

Need to check out the 3/12/81 Playing In The Band today.. I started it last night but crashed.
So that's next up after this Bucket > Sugaree from another era and then on to the Anniversary shows!

Alright, good times.
Hope all are well and enjoying some good tunes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 08:40

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We ONLY listen to shows with a Cumberland. (kidding of course)

Last night I finally finished my listen to Winterland '73. Holy sunshine barrels Batman, that run is fantastic. I have not listened to it in sequence, note for note probably since it came out.

Two To Lay Me Down's (does the 2nd get the nod?), the Big Rivers are some of the finest played, the PITB from 11/9 has already garnered several accolades on this thread, Row Jimmy, China>Riders, all some of the best versions from the year. The second sets of 11/10 and 11/11 are other worldly. But how about those three Weather Report Suites? Flawless and emotive, spectacular. But those two second set jams are really the special sauce that holds this run together. The Dark Star>Eyes is simply jaw dropping and the recordings?

What a classic.

I have officially given up on getting my Dave's Picks 36 any time soon, and wouldn't you know it.. some kind soul gave me at the least music to get me through. I just listened to those two shows note for note too.. perhaps I will revisit the 36 thread while it's all still fresh.

Sorry for being so late to the party.

Wait.. I just realized Cumberland Blues was not played at all in the Winterland 73 run. They played it the next show in San Diego on the 14th. Forget about everything I wrote above.. Winterland 73 sucks and is over rated, plus it has no Cumberland. You believers drank too much of the kool aid and need a strong dose of reality, most importantly get off my grass hippies. And get some haircuts. Jeeze.. damned draft dodgers and rope smokers.

Edit: Took a quickie look at 11/15/87, the setlist is no slouch plus it's got a scarlet fire, which suits my mood today. Will at least give it a peek later.

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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 13:30

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So into this right now. The Winterland 73 box, the 30 Trips show, Dave's 5 , Denver Road Trips. Might not get to anything else this month and that's okay.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 14:26

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Texas Christian University, I listened to that one last night.... They put some good tunes on this one!!! Favorite thing about the Road Trips series were those Bonus Discs!!! have a good night all. bob t

I just typed a post and it disappeared when I did reCRAPTCHA pictures (the quiz was boats, set up in a pattern that wouldn’t win tic-tac-toe), but before I hit save.

Must be an auto-delete software bug that happens with boats.

Anyway, the lost post was about how awesome 11-15-71 is!

Some of those were really good - 2/14/68, 6/16 and 6/18 74 and this one I have just listened to-5/23/69-accompanied by 5/24/69 are all top drawer. Incomplete shows, some of them, but great cds never the less. Weird numbering-this 69 one is Volume 4 No 1,and they were so tightly packed I needed a knife to get the cds out of the sleeve-but apart from that..
5/15/70 - another good one.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 04:25

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..you hit the best of the best Dave. Sixtus would likely provide a little cheer for the June 76 show (4.5? I think the last one), but your spot on for the best road trips in my humble opinion.

To my ears this is the period Jeffrey Norman perfected his craft.. there are a few where the sound was really starting to get good and seem, at least to me, to be a step above the Dick's Picks series.

I think most know I am a big fan of the Big Rock Pow Wow shows and 2/14/68 might be one of the best shows performed. Sacred grounds.. oh, and that bonus disc from the 8-track recordings from the PNW in the winter of '68. Holy sweet drops of liquid batman. Wowwow stuff.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 06:22

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Some kind of energy vortex around the date 11/15.
Both 11/15/71 & 11/15/72 are crazy good, and intense.
Listen to the Dark Star > El Paso > Dark Star on 11/15/71 & the PITB on 11/15/72 back to back.
It's heady & shreddy!

Worth the trip!

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 08:23

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I've really been enjoying the '72 and '73 stuff. '73 Winterland is one of my top 3 releases. Love that one.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 10:03

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The 73 run has been great. Can't get enough of it. More to come.

Decided to mix it up and go with 6/14/76 today. This box is so good.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 16:31

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Wichita 11/17/72 or Pauley Pavilion 11/17/73......... tomorrow anniversary shows. Both insanely good and I like them both just as much.. Trading Places quote by the way.... Bob t

I'd vote Wichita. It's one of those shows with cursed listens for me.. every time I put it on a lit firecracker lands in my lap or a car drives through the living room window. ..but I know I will like if the universe will just give me one good listen.

Or both. Pauley has gotten my undivided attention before.. Love that show.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 18:43

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Wichita

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 19:53

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Let's do them both. I know I will need two days however to get through both of these fantastic shows.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 20:04

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....Los Angeles......photo finish though. Me & My Uncle, Here Comes Sunshine opener tipped the scale.
I Voted.

I’ll start with 72 and then follow up with 73...not sure I’ll get it all in today, but that’s ok...like money in the bank!
Was going to finally try and get jiggy with PNW 73, like Jim with Wichita, haven’t had the right cosmic alignment with that box yet. Side affect of obtaining it whilst trying to cope with major life issues that year.
Going to try and build a farmhouse bed this week so I’ll need many hours of top notch tunage!
Onward!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Tue, 11/17/2020 - 13:36

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Getting ramped up for this one.

Totally hitting the spot!

I started 11-17-73 in the car this morning and got several songs into it today.

Got home and started up 11-17-72.......
Worked like a charm......

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 11/17/2020 - 19:15

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.....BT Wind is winding down in Vegas.
Grate show.

Thoroughly enjoyed Wichita last night, am onto the bonus material and fully plan on plowing into Albuquerque, Dave's Picks 26 and Los Angeles, Dave's Picks 5 later today.

The show was a tight little bundle of fun. I think subconsciously this show was always in the shadow of the Europe 72 box. Around and Around is the only song they did not play on that tour. Still, tight, explosive at times.. a good show that I finally got a listen to after all these years.

Years ago when I first visited Tuscon, I grabbed one of my tapes w/ a Jack Straw (the opener I think) and plugged it in hoping to get that line as I approached. It probably wasn't exact, but about half a minute from the city limits, at high volume, a much younger and smarter JimInMD heard the line Half a mile from Tucson, By the morning light. I couldn't resist. What a great song.

Wow, this late year '72 is ringing my bell.
Good to see all you all jumping on that train throughout the day.
BIG Other One yesterday with all kindsa tasty stuff around it and after it.
Boy Oh Boy!

Think I'm gonna have to keep this party rolling down the track...
Next stop 11/18/72, woot woot, all aboard!

BTW: Just wrapping up Tom Davis's book, Thirty-Nine Years of Short Term Memory Loss, read the Hepburn heights chapter last night. You all read that one?
WALSTIB

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 11/18/2020 - 06:58

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I can squeeze that in. A hot one and one of my favorite all time PITB's. Holy fractal meltdowns batman..

It appears we are on a roll. I think BobT kicked all this off a week or two ago. The wheel is turning..

They released the usable/good parts as part of record store day and later as a CD. That's what I am using.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 11/18/2020 - 11:26

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Dooaah.
Did manage to background listen the 72 yesterday. Overall impression was how fast it seemed for the era?
And of course that awesome other one raised it’s beautiful ugly head above the noise din in my brain and made quite an impression! If I ever finally get to what I was gonna do today, work in the garage, I’ll prolly fire up 11/17/73 and/or some of that PNW. So as the mad hatter would say “I’m late”...

If that Playing In The Band from 11/18 doesn't get you playing air guitar, not sure what will.
Awesome!

Been spending some time bouncing between the 11/15 & 11/18 versions and just going places.
Throwing in The Other One from 11/17 to shake things up.
I see a playlist brewing.

Gotta go back for more, Dark Star this time > 11/19/72 is gonna get a spin.
FWIW, it's pretty safe to say that if you saw the Grateful Dead in November between '67-73 you got your mind blown.
At least from what I'm hearing. Damn!
(I like the '65 & '66 we got too, but I'm a head.)

Alright, gonna finish this TIFTOO > Main Ten 30 DOTD treat and hit up 11/19 later on down the line.

Even now, November is a good Month for Dead.

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Submitted by wave-that-flag on Thu, 11/19/2020 - 10:23

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Hofheinz—very nice. Great Box of Rain, Tomorrow is Forever, tasty Dark Star. Great show to spend time with!

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/19/2020 - 12:20

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I am in!!!! I know it will never happen because its not there but how cool would a 72 Texas Box be!!! 5 shows 4 cities!!! Come back to the vault please 11/19/72!!!! Bob t

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 11/19/2020 - 15:30

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First time listening to 11/19/72. Bird Song 72 bliss. Dark Star with completely unique jam elements, into proto 73 weather report suite into Mississippi 1/2 Step. Was great to hear.
“Everybody polka!”
Final Apollo (17) mission to the moon lift off 12/7/72, a couple weeks later.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/19/2020 - 19:55

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Hello all. I have really enjoyed our 72& 73 run. I know there is also the Denver anniversary show also from 11/20/73... Set II of 11/20/78 is the most unique second set of that year.... Jam>Drums>Jam>Jack-A-Roe.. Playin>Shakedown Street>If I had the World to Give>Playing>Around... Last World to Give, first Jack-A-Roe Since June 77 Winterland...
From what I have read, Mr. Weir was getting sick, and didn't come out until Playin, and supposedly left again until Playin Reprise... Some audience patches here and there for the Jam..... but I really really like the second set. Thanks
everyone.... Bob t

I want to check that show out tomorrow Bob t. Thanks for the pick. I will recommend 11/21/73 RT4. 3 for Saturday.

Yes, the 72/73 week has been fun. So much great music. We definitely need more fall 72. Is it two releases so far, Dick's 36 and Dave's 11. Bear did a great job on these recordings.

I have never listened to Dave's 5 so close to Winterland 73 before. To my ears, Pauly Pavilion sounds a tick better than Winterland 73. Not sure why. So much great music, we are lucky.

Unrelated, I would love to see them give us some sort of December release, not going to happen, but, I think people would love to have another release at the end of each year.

Stay well folks.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 04:51

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Right on dvikes. The Dave's Picks 36 new car smell is beginning fade. We need a new release. A sweet one-off like To Terrapin was, something off the radar and released as a single CD that comes as a complete surprise.

There are some uneven parts on my source for 11/20/78 (The Miller) and some patches, but it settles into a decent sound for most of the show. Plus it's got a '78 Peggy-O.

Keep the picks coming all, we are on a roll.. Us mere mortals keeping up as best we can, although I am beginning to get a bit worried about Brewer.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 06:19

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Wow 11/19/72 is a stunner.
Metaphorically speaking, it was fun to see so many of your smiling faces at the show!

Top notch Playing In The Bands happening all month. This one is killer diller, and like Strider mentioned that Bird Song definitely takes flight. Great Box and the list goes on and that's only Set 1.

But surprise surprise surprise (as they say in Mayberry) the cherry on top is.... wait for it:
Dark Star > Weather Report Suite Prelude (infant) > Half-Step

1 word - Phil!!!
Phil just crushes on this, best Phil Bass solo here.

Can't get enough of this November '72 run. It is top notch GD for sure. And agree with Bob T def release worthy stuff on 11/19.. Bob T enlighten me, the reels aren't in the Vault for this show? I think the SBDs are Gan's reel transfers? Doesn't appear that there's anything to patch those reel flips though. So thank goodness we have these transfers, cause they're tasty.

11/15, 17, 18 & 19 just crush! I had to go and listen to 11/12 to see how the run started, but the recording issues definitely hide what appears to be another barn burner so far. I can't remember much about 11/14 & 11/22 and we checked out the tasty bits of 11/13 & 11/26 so that leaves 11/24 unmentioned... I know this about that, the Playing In The Band is a 5 star crusher. So maybe we can jump back in this time machine around 11/24 and fly around the ceiling of Dallas Memorial Auditorium together and check out that party!

Alright, I could go on and on, as I'm want to do, but I'll move along.

Got a little extra time today cause I got the 30 DOTD so quick, on first guess ;)

And that brings us to.. one of my Favorite shows:
11/20/78
Love this Set 2, it's unique, it's strange, it's jammy, and it's great.
All the things I like about this band.
I did not know that story about Bob that's cool insight, def have been curious what was going on at begin of Set 2, but whatever was happening, we benefitted with a fun voyage through wonderland.

This is a cool time of GD to explore, I dig late '78 and early '79, have always been a big fan of NYE '78 and it's epicness. So like any good fiend I went crawling all around the outskirts of that to discover what else was laying around the perimeter. The net spread wider when I realized there were those 2 early '79 Dark Stars lurking around there, and eventually bagged myself a whopper at the Cleveland Music Hall '78.

Hold on to your hats.. and let's get this show started!

Good Stuff.