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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #971
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    Crowd noise unbearable and unnecessary

    Just listened to a few tracks on SiriusXM, Dave's usual preview special. This music is great and special as promised for the songs he presents however they went overboard with adding in fake crowd sounds since it came from a soundboard. Its overbearing, unnecessary, clearly unauthentic and nonstop. Its like listening to an old TV sitcom again once you've gotten used to no phony soundtrack. Please remove else I won't buy it. You've been warned. Thank you.

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    I can find something I dig in every era of the Dead's music, every year there is something they played I can find I enjoyed..

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    So predictable you can set your watch to it > New Release, then a flood of narcissism.

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    I always enjoy reading critical assessments of the band on here from people who obviously know what they are talking about. People who all think the same way - uniformity in any field always turns me off. Indiscriminate positivity does, too. It just doesn't ring true for me. Its quite patronising to label others as "naysayers" or "haters" if they don't like something connected to The Dead.
    Recent posts by Doc and Dark Star have surely been well worth reading. Whether you agree with the sentiments expressed in them is beside the point.

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    Well stated elbee and Forensic Doc

    you summed up my feelings on it. What on earth would motivate me to listen to a Bird Song that sounds like a cover band doing Bird Song?

    Hendrix freak it sounds like it's ok to dump on it as long as there is a description of the dump, yes? Something subtantative I think you said? The Bird Song melody in the 80s and 90s ends on a completely different note. Someone mentioned this a while back. You go to the 70s and Jerry ends on a high note and Bobby ends on low note. Jerry is typically higher in the mix so that's what you hear out of the melody, and it works to much better musical affect than the whole band ending on the low note which sounds yuckers compared to the 70s where Bobby played the same phrase lower to fill out the sound and compliment the main melody Jerry was playing. Jerry still sings the end of those verses on a high note, so it's not even like they're doing it to compensate for aging voices which get lower over time. Everytime I listen to an 80s bird song it's like the melody ends on a discordant note.

    How's this for substance. Brent hasn't the foggiest idea how to fill musical space in about 50% of the songs he plays. He sounds great as a chord guy which is great for Hammond playing, but as soon as you put him in front of the Fisher Price, he's just playing notes all over the place, as if he can only hear Phil, Billy, and Mickey. No regard to what the guitar players are doing. When Brent is off the Hammond, timing is good, musical coherence and improv note playing is way off. Did I notice this at the shows? Not really. I always got as close to Jerry as I could and the PA mix the crowd hears at the show is always much better than what ended up released in the 80s. I could barely hear Brent at the shows. I would much rather have a Bruce Vince keyboard combo atmospheric and ethereal. But even the Hammond was overplayed by Brent. Go listen to Pigpen in the WMD Port Chester show from '71. Did Brent have more energy and flexibility on the Hammond than Pigpen? Absolutely. Was it necessary? I guess so since the guitars weren't filling in the sound as they once did. Was it a better version of the band? Not even close. Pigpen knew exactly when to play and exactly when to keep his hands off the damn keyboard. Can hardly fault Brent for that when it came to the Hammond because nobody else was really pulling their weight full time instrumentally by 1987. It came and went throughout most shows. But this is really the whole point why there are a lot of people who don't care for later era Dead.

    There's your substatitive Hendrix freak. I wasn't going to post anything at all but just tell me I don't have a right to and I would be happy to provide an earful every time. Have some couth. Your analogy was cringe worthy, as if you were the one exhibiting the show in the middle of the room. Stick to your grease calls and concert stories. Those are good posts.

    Note to Space Brother - I am very happy for you. Regardless of my taste in 80s Dead, I know how much you love this. It's been a long wait for you, enjoy this one, enjoy the last one, enjoy the Giants Stadium box, and enjoy the RFK mini box.

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    I used to have 3/31/87 via WMMR-FM broadcast> VHS-HiFi> cassette (and VHS-HiFi> CD-R) and 4/7/87 via WNEW-FM broadcast> VHS-HiFi> cassette (and VHS-HiFi> CD-R). These shows are not excellent but very good shows in my humble opinion and I had pre-show and post-show DJ chatter on both recordings and on the 4/7 recording had commercials for Ben & Jerry's and a "Club Dead" (on 2nd Ave. in NYC, if I recall correctly). But for the life of me, I cannot find any of the recordings - original VHS or cassette or CD-R clones. Over the years, I heard that the Hartford shows were much better than the 3/31 & 4/7 shows. Replacing good for better ones, I guess.

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    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOB!

    Happy birthday, Bob Weir!
    72

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    Hey rockers!

    Been a subscriber since day one and will continue to do so. We've always had to take the lesser with the greater, that's not a new phenomenon, here and in life itself...........

    Having a critical opinion is not being negative. Blind fandom is not a good thing. When somebody says, “Doc I can’t really dig 1971”, I get it (which I do, and accept), but my comeback isn’t “Man, stop being so negative”. Truth be told, as much as I love 1971 shows, not every one of THOSE is worthy of release……

    I’m not an armchair sniper. People here know who I am, what I am, where I am, what I do, and what I believe in. Paid my dues and saw my fair share of shows (including some that WERE clearly “bad”), but not an expert. Have never pretended to be, just another guy who loves the music. Ungracious? Certainly not, thankful for all the hard work TPTB put into all this. Selfish? I don’t know, ask the hundreds of people I’ve spread thousands of shows to. Before people throw stones, look in the mirror first. Do I poke fun at DL, you bet, but I don’t attack people who disagree with my opinions about shows.

    Some Grateful Dead shows are black and white, but yes most are varying shades of gray. Did I say those Hartford shows sucked? Absolutely not. On the other hand, I didn’t say---and never will---that they’re classic either. What I DID do was to question the selection itself. And from what folks have communicated to me in private, I’m not the only one who feels that way. But from what I’ve seen and heard, I’m one of the few who dares to question it in public.

    Which leads me to believe---and I may be wrong----that many folks here just don’t like contrary opinions about shows. Folks, not every Dead show was sweetness and light. Yes, I’m opinionated about the Dead and won’t apologize for that. And yes, I will continue to poke the bear when and where I see fit……………

    Rock on rockers,

    Doc
    Death borders upon our birth, and our cradle stands in the grave

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    Not sure if this has already been mentioned but now that a 4-disc show is possible for this series for the first time, maybe that opens the door to shows like 5/26/73 and 6/10/73 being officially released? Would not complain one bit...

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    Jerry back on the East Toast, did not attend and have never listened to Hartford 87, but all the shows that year where just high energy a lot of band and crowd symbiosis going on. For 87 the MSG run should be released as a box set, just saying. Sun going up and then the sun it going down, shine through my window and my friends they come around............

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Road Trips: 11-21-73 with a chunk of tasty filler from 11-20 and a bonus disc from 12-6. Totally underrated release.

Daves 11: 11-17-72, with filler from 11-15. (I kinda pretend the record store release from 11-18 is a bonus part of this release as well since I always listen to them together.)

Dicks: I was gonna say 36, but didn't want two from 72, so I'm gonna say 34, to get some 74 in the mix. (Yeah, it's chopped, but so is a large percentage of 74, so what are ya gonna do.)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 07:44

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Right on DHB and AJS. I am doing the same. Also, for those that do not know, if you buy from Amazon, try starting with Smile.Amazon.Com and you get to pick from one of their charities to give to. I used to give to the WV Symphony Orchestra (one of the few arts charities at the time), but a few years ago I noticed the Rex Foundation is an option so I switched.

Easy breezy, it adds up.

....and Lebowski, I just got through a listen of DaP 11 + Filler (almost) immediately followed by the Holfheinz RSD release. There were a few of us that did this on the pick of the day thread. Serendipitous. Good to see some love for DiP 34 too.

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Submitted by NLW05 on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 10:57

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As for my favorite Dick’s, it would have to be 33. That Stephen/NFA/Stephen/Help/Slip/Drums/S&D/Slip/Franklins is absolutely killer. As for my favorite Dave’s, it’s probably 27(may be a little biased as it’s my first). Love the Wang Dang Doodle opener, and it has one of my favorite Estimated/Eyes. The Space is also really great; really different. Those are my two cents.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 11:26

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I think you posted that you're somewhat new to the GD scene; if not, then I apologize if you already know what I'm sharing below, and I'm thus being pedantic. :)

If you like DaP27 (and I sure do!), then definitely check out some more Fall '83; the bad was on fire! Dick's 6 is suh-MO-kin', as is the next night (10/15). The 17th and 21st (the 21st was in the Thirty Trips box) of October will get your rocks off as well.

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Submitted by NLW05 on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 13:25

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Yeah, I’m pretty new here(less than a year, 3/12/20. I listened to Terrapin Station and that’s when I knew the bus was coming, and I hopped on). As far as Fall 83 goes, I haven’t dug too much into it. However, I’ve been really diggin 10/11 from that tour. I love that second set(especially the Bertha>Jam>China Doll), and the Wang Dang Doodle opener is smokin’. I’ve also listened to the Scarlet>Fire from 10/21, but that’s about as far as I have gotten in this tour. I’ll definitely be checking out 10/14 and 10/15 soon. Thanks!

[Edit]: P.S. The Brent Era is probably my favorite Dead era out of them all(all of them are great tho!). Love his voice and keys, and he and Jerry really gelled, especially post coma.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 15:01

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Just too damn difficult...makes my brain hurt!

I’ve been doing the year in review and I think here’s my order from best to worst..,

#34 Jai Alai gets the nod on #1 for the year..it’s a great 71 plus the bonus...can’t go wrong

#36 is next for me...great way to pass the torch from Dick to Dave with of course the Dicks series ending on 36 and #36 for Dave being his first shows. Plus this audience source rocks...I love it, and what perfect timing with none of us being able to hear live music for so long...right on Dave, keep up the good work!!!

#33 Dekalb...listened again today and like most 77s it’s fantastic, but maybe gets lost in the greatness of 77s in general...

#35 84 Philly last on this list but a solid show with some good filler

For you vinyl folks...I would recommend Jimi Hendrix Experience Live in Maui...sweet sounding pressing that comes with a Blue Ray video (I’ve yet too watch)...3 vinyl discs plus the blu ray at $52 from my local shop...not bad!!!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 15:54

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Yes, they will give you 15% off however, don't plan on ever receiving what you buy.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 18:14

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Ha!

.........But you still save 15%.

(coming from a person that still has not received my Dave's Picks 36, but I have not given up hope).

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 00:49

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a great year for the Dave's, with amazing show from 84, 77, 87, and awsome 34.
my favorites Daves 5, 23,26(ann arbor) and 34, for dicks 12 (Providence) 18, and the begining 1,2,3,4.
a great post about Europe 72 so I paid attention to the suggested best songs, alike Europe 72 vol3 and the underated shows !

https://archive.org/post/304297/europe-72-notebook

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 03:28

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I still think 30 Trips is a handy resource for dropping in on different years-and some of my favourite shows in any series-Dicks, Road or Dave's can be found here. The jewels, for me are the early ones-1967, 1968, 1969 and 1970, but there are strong shows throughout. Following a recommendation on here, and in anticipation of the Daves choice, I discovered the 1984 show a few months back - I can't remember details now, but I enjoyed it at the time. 1989, 1990 and 1991 are also strong late period shows.

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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 03:32

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So we're doing this . . . I'm in.

Dicks Series: Overall, just considering the music that is on the three CDs themselves, I'd have to go with #4. But of course that one is a mash up so it has an unfair advantage. If we restrict it to one intact show its either Harpur College or # 11 from Fall 72. I love 70 and #11 might be my favorite 72 show outside of Europe. Or its just the one I listened to most recently.

Dave's: # 21 - Boston 73, or #26 Ann Arbor 71. 21 is so consistently good, without having one big highlight jam. Just one great song after another. 26 might be a sentimental favorite since I've seen a lot of shows at that venue (never the Dead tho :( )

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 08:38

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For DaP 2020, I have to go for 33 over 34 by just a hair. I enjoyed the heck out of all of them, and 35 made me go listen to the other two shows in that run; that was a good three nights for GD fans in attendance!

Be sure and put on your seatbelt as this could get weird!

Besides DHBs fine suggestions you can add 8/27/83 (perhaps my favorite Jack straw, but you need to crank it on real speakers, no ear buds....in a word, Phil!) 10/22/83 is worthy, but don’t listen to an Aud as the domes sound was horrendous). You can’t go wrong with Vguys awesome picks from Santa Fe on 9/10&11/83!

My 2 cents...it’s all good! Just gotta poke around. For good or for ill folks have some strong predilections around here. Which can be informative, but like what YOU like. Fuck all the cool kids lol.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 11:31

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Definitely biased toward DP 33, my first show; otherwise, I would choose #33.
DaP: #13, "...this is a peaceful Sunday with the Grateful Dead", perfectly describes the mood of the show.
Road Trips? The ones from 1971
Favorite complete 1969 Fillmore West recordings box set: "Fillmore West 1969: The Complete Recordings"
Favorite show yet to be released: 12/10/1971
Favorite Dead Movie quote: "I like Sha Na Na"

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 13:07

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KKUP listener sponsored radio since 1972, is having their annual Grateful Dead marathon today, from 6a.m. to 12pm P.T. My brother Paul is doing a show from 6p.m. to 9p.m. P.T. call him up and say hello. Go to kkup.org. and from there you can listen online, you might have to say Alexa play kkup.

Dead.net is having their annual "Black Friday Sale" 15% off w/ free domestic US shipping. This DaP 36 was sold at $38.98 + shipping and sales taxes ala carte. It quickly sold out. Now with this BFS, it's being offered at $33.13 but you cannot order it - IT IS SOLD OUT!
UNAVAILABLE!
KER-PUT!
GONE!
NO MORE!
SOLD OUT!

Oh, the humor!
2 Great shows, I'm enjoying them very much!
THANK YOU, DAVE!

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 18:49

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So I had a weird dream last night, well my dreams are weird rverynight. In my dream after a series of loosely connected events, I ended up being present for Rhino and Dead.net's meeting to finalize details for 2021 releases. No Dave L in this meeting but basically there were a group of people, some looked slightly familiar, discussing some details. There was a general discussion about the color scheme for the artwork for what I think was next years box. It looked, from a sample that was held up briefly, like blue, red, and indigo...

Then a discussion came up about a future show for release. The dates was 8/10/82. Even in my dream I recognized this date (in reality I had a tape of this show). A discussion ensued about the merits releasing this show. Up until that point I was nothing but an observer, but the woman running the meeting turned to me and she said "What do you think?" I responded with "Hell yeah, sounds great! The guys in the comments section will love this one ".

So yeah it probably means nothing, but who knows. Hopefully I did not represent the crew here incorrectly with my enthusiasm in my possible psychic- time traveling dream vision. I did briefly look at the setlist courtesy of Deadlists:

8/10/82
Iowa Fieldhouse - University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

Set 1:
Feel Like A Stranger [8:06] ; Friend Of The Devil [8:22] ; New Minglewood Blues [7:12] ; Tennessee Jed [8:43] ; Cassidy [6:28] ; It Must Have Been The Roses [5:25] ; On The Road Again [3:00] > Beat It On Down The Line [3:37] ; Stagger Lee [6:08] ; I Need A Miracle [3:49] > Bertha [6:09]

Set 2:
China Cat Sunflower [7:26] > I Know You Rider [5:45] ; Lost Sailor [6:41] > Saint Of Circumstance [7:02] > Eyes Of The World [13:10] > Drums [6:13#] > Space [9:02] > Iko Iko [9:41] > Truckin' [6:47] > Stella Blue [8:33] > Sugar Magnolia [10:46]

Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue [6:52] > Johnny B. Goode [4:07]

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Submitted by deadmike on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 21:33

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Due to Postnord in Sweden my tracking number isn't in their system and when they looked they couldn't find it in the Swedish Custom Service system either. As a matter of fact, they couldn't even see that it left a transit airport in Stockholm, Sweden on Saturday November 14th, not until I pointed in the correct direction. That being the USPS Sweden tracking web page. So where did it go from Stockholm? Nobody knows. It takes about an hour for a regular flight from Stockholm to Växjö Airport but who knows where my DP36 landed that Saturday a week ago.

Maybe my copy will be delivered by UPS? Haven't heard from them though and there is no access point for UPS in Växjö any longer. Maybe this COVID-19 crap has taken the access point out of business.

Deadegad: Saw that you got your DP36 earlier this week. Lucky you!

Micke Östlund,
Växjö, Sweden

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Submitted by RobbZ on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 21:52

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Found this kind of interesting, thought I'd share. Here's the full performance of the Blues Brothers opening for the Grateful Dead on the closing night of Winterland. Pretty tight for a band who played just a hand full of gigs before this show.....Matt "Guitar" Murphy is on fire, Paul Shaffer showing off his bluesy-chops, and surprisingly Dan Aykroyd is remarkable on harmonica! Anyway.....away we go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4OMWW25Fzc

https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/It-was-1978-the-night-they…

Good Morning Deadmike,
it probably hangs at the customs office. My copy left Atlanta Nov.1st and arrived at FRA airport on Nov. 4 (UPS). USPS tracking did not state (up to now) the departure from FRA, but to my surprise 36 arrived at my home on Nov. 11.
That was pretty quick this time. I've experienced delays by the customs office up to three weeks.
I wish you good luck
G.

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Submitted by Deadicated on Sun, 11/22/2020 - 07:59

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100% in agreement with 12/10/71.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 11/22/2020 - 14:00

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35 years ago today I was at Oakland Auditorium, seeing the Dead. I don't remember much about the show, but I know I was there.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/22/2020 - 15:56

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Dap# 21, 23, 30, 34, . I feel Dap 21 to be the finest. I'm not able to suggest any dicks because i lost most of them into the void. I wish the 79' billerica show would become available in the future since it has an amazing set list. This tape was the ticket when the bus came by for me in 85'.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 11/22/2020 - 22:55

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Jim, that's a great category, 10/31/69. 2/9/73. 6/17/75. 5/26/73 2/17/79. Basically, there are way to many to list, but those are a few.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 11/23/2020 - 03:06

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I was amazed this morning when UPS delivered my copy of Neil Young Archives Vol 2.
I had tried to buy the limited version on the release day from the UK site but they had sold out. I tried the US site and after some struggles to get it to work I saw that I could order a copy. It has arrived about one week after its release date and even more surprisingly, given the cost, there was no demand for VAT.
That should fill a few hours of these rather empty days.
Stay safe, don’t travel for thanksgiving and we’ll see you on the other side when effective vaccines become available.

That’s amazing you received it that fast, but actually, I find most items show up much faster than this site’s shipping speeds. I am in Canada, and I often order CDs from a site in the UK, and I generally have them in 10 days, or less.
Was this the first issue of the NY Archives (that sold out in 24 hours) that you obtained? If so, well done! I have had to settle for the “reissue”, which will be released in March.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/23/2020 - 12:42

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That's been released.. but I'd like to see it re-released on vinyl.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 11/23/2020 - 13:20

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1/2/72, what a great way to start 1972, it rocks.

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