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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #191
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    Mount Rushmore has a secret room that no one can enter. Located behind the facade of Abraham Lincoln, sculptor Gutzon Borglum designed the chamber to hold....

    Free concerts perhaps?

    I'd like to think of the Dead as the band that played in the secret room inside the mountain away from the park police, crowds and tourists.

    Just adding a little flavor to the conversation. It does have a secret room, this part is true.

    Edit: Then.... there's this. Hard to argue, it is written in stone.
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/123075002293278936/

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    Let me rephrase, if I may . . .

    I certainly did not mean that before Dylan there was nothing happening in rock and roll. But to me, each of the important influences on what we would come to call "rock" music were limited and somewhat self-repeating streams. The great blues artists certainly did some great blues; the seminal folk/country/R&B/etc. artists did amazing things within their own genres. Elvis absolutely blew the door open for Little Richard, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee, Chuck Berry . . .

    But by the mid-Sixties, each artist was still somewhat re-writing what he/she had already written; musically and lyrically pop music had stagnated. The Beatles and Stones were poking at some cracks between genres, but then Dylan came and wiped out everything with the opening chord of "Like a Rolling Stone." After that, folkies could rock, blues musicians could rock, soul artists could rock, and rockers could do whatever they wanted. Now the Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Who, and the good ol' Grateful Dead could make rock music about anything, and could draw upon whatever influence tickled their fancy. And after Dylan, the sky was the limit, lyrically. The bands most of us repeatedly listen to were made possible by Robert Zimmerman. Would we still all listen to our Elvis, Muddy Waters, Sarah Vaughan, and Chuck Berry records had Dylan never existed? Undoubtedly. But not like we LISTEN to the Beatles, Stones, GD, Hendrix, Joni . . .

    And of course, I am open to the idea that I could be totally wrong about all this. :)

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    I still say Chuck was the real innovator in the chicken or egg argument, but I’m not going down that rabbit hole again.
    I got into like a four day tennis match last time lol

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    If you really mean rock and roll then I think the four heads should be Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard.
    For myself choosing innovators I’d pick Robert Johnson, Mother Maybelle Carter, Jimmy Rodgers and Woody Guthrie.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTMm4NEQc1Q. I still remember where I was the day he died.

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    got to agree with Daverock

    before Elvis there was nothing but the blues, then came Elvis and the cat was out of the bag. He was the one and only and totally brought rock to the masses. He did it with class and smarts, using his gospel roots to snare all the doubters and win over all the old folks who thought rock and roll was the devil in disguise. He had such class and could deliver a song like no other before him. He isn't called the King for nothing ya know.
    Funny how the conversation has veered to after the Dead bands. I saw them all, when Jer passed, I was left without a compass, he was my guiding light, my go to for all things psychedelic and the one and only. I did not want it to end and went to the first Furthur festival in 96 with Ratdog and loved it, it wasn't over and I had to have more. Then to the Furthur fest in 97 and 98 with the return of Phil to the line up, that one was special and then onward to 2000 with the return of Bruce and Billy, all were special in their own way but that 2000 line up was awesome with Mark K. and Steve K. duel leads was the sh%t. They got it down on that tour and one of my favorites of the post Jerry bands. Saw Ratdog many times back then also, loved every one of those shows as Bobby still had it and was not going to stop the bus. Saw Phil and friends with Warren back in 2001 also, right after his operation and they were good too, not furthurfest good, not ratdog good, but still good and loved the old tunes they brought back. Caught Furthur in 2010 at a 3000 seat auditorium, they were good, real good and John K was the best Jerry to date. Loved his take on Stella Blue, he nailed it. Honorable mention goes to Mickey's band, they were great and I was fortunate to catch them twice and both times they never lost site of what the Dead were all about, improv and great tunes. Love you Mickey.
    Sorry Billy but you were wrong and Trey was not the guy for FTW, he did not have what it took to fill the big guys shoes, IMHO. JK had been playing Jerry for years with DSO and he had the chops and knew the material by heart.
    Honorable mention again to DSO, best cover band yet.
    Yes, it should have been called Fare the Well Phil, but it was a money grab and that's the way it was to be. As I look back on these 25 years after Jerry has left us, I see the bus, with many different colours, still rolling down the road and will until they all leave us. Long live the Grateful Dead

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    Before Elvis there was nothing

    Thus sprake John Lennon. A bit overstated, perhaps, but the way Elvis welded blues, country, gospel, pop...whatever was to hand... was visionary. The recordings made for Sun still sound immaculate, and there is a great dvd called "Elvis in 1956" which shows him gravitate from cult to world wide fame in 12 easy months. Brilliant T.V. performances.
    In the notes for the 5 disc set "Complete 50's Master's", Scotty Moore describes his guitar work as "ancient psychedelia".
    Truly out of this world.

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    I think even Dylan would agree that rock n roll did not begin with a white guy! :) It was much deeper than that, thats partially why it was so controversial in society at the start.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Kv0vF41Bc. Deadheadbrewer, you make an excellent point. Here's where it all began, Dylan backed by members of the Paul Buttetfield blues band. So who's on your Mt . Rushmore of Rock & Roll.

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    But, Billy . . .

    Rock and roll BEGINS with Bob Dylan, no? :) (I humbly submit that it does . . . ) After Dylan rocked out, the Beatles and Stones were freed from being excellent Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry imitators respectively, and could then become the twin towers of soul-searing rock and roll. No?

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Road Trips: 11-21-73 with a chunk of tasty filler from 11-20 and a bonus disc from 12-6. Totally underrated release.

Daves 11: 11-17-72, with filler from 11-15. (I kinda pretend the record store release from 11-18 is a bonus part of this release as well since I always listen to them together.)

Dicks: I was gonna say 36, but didn't want two from 72, so I'm gonna say 34, to get some 74 in the mix. (Yeah, it's chopped, but so is a large percentage of 74, so what are ya gonna do.)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 07:44

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Right on DHB and AJS. I am doing the same. Also, for those that do not know, if you buy from Amazon, try starting with Smile.Amazon.Com and you get to pick from one of their charities to give to. I used to give to the WV Symphony Orchestra (one of the few arts charities at the time), but a few years ago I noticed the Rex Foundation is an option so I switched.

Easy breezy, it adds up.

....and Lebowski, I just got through a listen of DaP 11 + Filler (almost) immediately followed by the Holfheinz RSD release. There were a few of us that did this on the pick of the day thread. Serendipitous. Good to see some love for DiP 34 too.

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Submitted by NLW05 on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 10:57

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As for my favorite Dick’s, it would have to be 33. That Stephen/NFA/Stephen/Help/Slip/Drums/S&D/Slip/Franklins is absolutely killer. As for my favorite Dave’s, it’s probably 27(may be a little biased as it’s my first). Love the Wang Dang Doodle opener, and it has one of my favorite Estimated/Eyes. The Space is also really great; really different. Those are my two cents.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 11:26

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I think you posted that you're somewhat new to the GD scene; if not, then I apologize if you already know what I'm sharing below, and I'm thus being pedantic. :)

If you like DaP27 (and I sure do!), then definitely check out some more Fall '83; the bad was on fire! Dick's 6 is suh-MO-kin', as is the next night (10/15). The 17th and 21st (the 21st was in the Thirty Trips box) of October will get your rocks off as well.

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Submitted by NLW05 on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 13:25

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Yeah, I’m pretty new here(less than a year, 3/12/20. I listened to Terrapin Station and that’s when I knew the bus was coming, and I hopped on). As far as Fall 83 goes, I haven’t dug too much into it. However, I’ve been really diggin 10/11 from that tour. I love that second set(especially the Bertha>Jam>China Doll), and the Wang Dang Doodle opener is smokin’. I’ve also listened to the Scarlet>Fire from 10/21, but that’s about as far as I have gotten in this tour. I’ll definitely be checking out 10/14 and 10/15 soon. Thanks!

[Edit]: P.S. The Brent Era is probably my favorite Dead era out of them all(all of them are great tho!). Love his voice and keys, and he and Jerry really gelled, especially post coma.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 15:01

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Just too damn difficult...makes my brain hurt!

I’ve been doing the year in review and I think here’s my order from best to worst..,

#34 Jai Alai gets the nod on #1 for the year..it’s a great 71 plus the bonus...can’t go wrong

#36 is next for me...great way to pass the torch from Dick to Dave with of course the Dicks series ending on 36 and #36 for Dave being his first shows. Plus this audience source rocks...I love it, and what perfect timing with none of us being able to hear live music for so long...right on Dave, keep up the good work!!!

#33 Dekalb...listened again today and like most 77s it’s fantastic, but maybe gets lost in the greatness of 77s in general...

#35 84 Philly last on this list but a solid show with some good filler

For you vinyl folks...I would recommend Jimi Hendrix Experience Live in Maui...sweet sounding pressing that comes with a Blue Ray video (I’ve yet too watch)...3 vinyl discs plus the blu ray at $52 from my local shop...not bad!!!

Yes, they will give you 15% off however, don't plan on ever receiving what you buy.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 18:14

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Ha!

.........But you still save 15%.

(coming from a person that still has not received my Dave's Picks 36, but I have not given up hope).

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 00:49

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a great year for the Dave's, with amazing show from 84, 77, 87, and awsome 34.
my favorites Daves 5, 23,26(ann arbor) and 34, for dicks 12 (Providence) 18, and the begining 1,2,3,4.
a great post about Europe 72 so I paid attention to the suggested best songs, alike Europe 72 vol3 and the underated shows !

https://archive.org/post/304297/europe-72-notebook

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 03:28

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I still think 30 Trips is a handy resource for dropping in on different years-and some of my favourite shows in any series-Dicks, Road or Dave's can be found here. The jewels, for me are the early ones-1967, 1968, 1969 and 1970, but there are strong shows throughout. Following a recommendation on here, and in anticipation of the Daves choice, I discovered the 1984 show a few months back - I can't remember details now, but I enjoyed it at the time. 1989, 1990 and 1991 are also strong late period shows.

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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 03:32

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So we're doing this . . . I'm in.

Dicks Series: Overall, just considering the music that is on the three CDs themselves, I'd have to go with #4. But of course that one is a mash up so it has an unfair advantage. If we restrict it to one intact show its either Harpur College or # 11 from Fall 72. I love 70 and #11 might be my favorite 72 show outside of Europe. Or its just the one I listened to most recently.

Dave's: # 21 - Boston 73, or #26 Ann Arbor 71. 21 is so consistently good, without having one big highlight jam. Just one great song after another. 26 might be a sentimental favorite since I've seen a lot of shows at that venue (never the Dead tho :( )

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 08:38

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For DaP 2020, I have to go for 33 over 34 by just a hair. I enjoyed the heck out of all of them, and 35 made me go listen to the other two shows in that run; that was a good three nights for GD fans in attendance!

Be sure and put on your seatbelt as this could get weird!

Besides DHBs fine suggestions you can add 8/27/83 (perhaps my favorite Jack straw, but you need to crank it on real speakers, no ear buds....in a word, Phil!) 10/22/83 is worthy, but don’t listen to an Aud as the domes sound was horrendous). You can’t go wrong with Vguys awesome picks from Santa Fe on 9/10&11/83!

My 2 cents...it’s all good! Just gotta poke around. For good or for ill folks have some strong predilections around here. Which can be informative, but like what YOU like. Fuck all the cool kids lol.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 11:31

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Definitely biased toward DP 33, my first show; otherwise, I would choose #33.
DaP: #13, "...this is a peaceful Sunday with the Grateful Dead", perfectly describes the mood of the show.
Road Trips? The ones from 1971
Favorite complete 1969 Fillmore West recordings box set: "Fillmore West 1969: The Complete Recordings"
Favorite show yet to be released: 12/10/1971
Favorite Dead Movie quote: "I like Sha Na Na"

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 13:07

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KKUP listener sponsored radio since 1972, is having their annual Grateful Dead marathon today, from 6a.m. to 12pm P.T. My brother Paul is doing a show from 6p.m. to 9p.m. P.T. call him up and say hello. Go to kkup.org. and from there you can listen online, you might have to say Alexa play kkup.

Dead.net is having their annual "Black Friday Sale" 15% off w/ free domestic US shipping. This DaP 36 was sold at $38.98 + shipping and sales taxes ala carte. It quickly sold out. Now with this BFS, it's being offered at $33.13 but you cannot order it - IT IS SOLD OUT!
UNAVAILABLE!
KER-PUT!
GONE!
NO MORE!
SOLD OUT!

Oh, the humor!
2 Great shows, I'm enjoying them very much!
THANK YOU, DAVE!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 15:46

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rW8KOSfkIkI. I saw Hunter open for Garcia down at Keystone Palo Alto and he said " I remember when this place was a Pureity Store we used to shoplift in here" He put on a great show , so did Garcia. Fun times! Dave Rock, I'm sending this one over to you ,and the great country of England..

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 18:49

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So I had a weird dream last night, well my dreams are weird rverynight. In my dream after a series of loosely connected events, I ended up being present for Rhino and Dead.net's meeting to finalize details for 2021 releases. No Dave L in this meeting but basically there were a group of people, some looked slightly familiar, discussing some details. There was a general discussion about the color scheme for the artwork for what I think was next years box. It looked, from a sample that was held up briefly, like blue, red, and indigo...

Then a discussion came up about a future show for release. The dates was 8/10/82. Even in my dream I recognized this date (in reality I had a tape of this show). A discussion ensued about the merits releasing this show. Up until that point I was nothing but an observer, but the woman running the meeting turned to me and she said "What do you think?" I responded with "Hell yeah, sounds great! The guys in the comments section will love this one ".

So yeah it probably means nothing, but who knows. Hopefully I did not represent the crew here incorrectly with my enthusiasm in my possible psychic- time traveling dream vision. I did briefly look at the setlist courtesy of Deadlists:

8/10/82
Iowa Fieldhouse - University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

Set 1:
Feel Like A Stranger [8:06] ; Friend Of The Devil [8:22] ; New Minglewood Blues [7:12] ; Tennessee Jed [8:43] ; Cassidy [6:28] ; It Must Have Been The Roses [5:25] ; On The Road Again [3:00] > Beat It On Down The Line [3:37] ; Stagger Lee [6:08] ; I Need A Miracle [3:49] > Bertha [6:09]

Set 2:
China Cat Sunflower [7:26] > I Know You Rider [5:45] ; Lost Sailor [6:41] > Saint Of Circumstance [7:02] > Eyes Of The World [13:10] > Drums [6:13#] > Space [9:02] > Iko Iko [9:41] > Truckin' [6:47] > Stella Blue [8:33] > Sugar Magnolia [10:46]

Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue [6:52] > Johnny B. Goode [4:07]

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Submitted by deadmike on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 21:33

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Due to Postnord in Sweden my tracking number isn't in their system and when they looked they couldn't find it in the Swedish Custom Service system either. As a matter of fact, they couldn't even see that it left a transit airport in Stockholm, Sweden on Saturday November 14th, not until I pointed in the correct direction. That being the USPS Sweden tracking web page. So where did it go from Stockholm? Nobody knows. It takes about an hour for a regular flight from Stockholm to Växjö Airport but who knows where my DP36 landed that Saturday a week ago.

Maybe my copy will be delivered by UPS? Haven't heard from them though and there is no access point for UPS in Växjö any longer. Maybe this COVID-19 crap has taken the access point out of business.

Deadegad: Saw that you got your DP36 earlier this week. Lucky you!

Micke Östlund,
Växjö, Sweden

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Submitted by RobbZ on Sat, 11/21/2020 - 21:52

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Found this kind of interesting, thought I'd share. Here's the full performance of the Blues Brothers opening for the Grateful Dead on the closing night of Winterland. Pretty tight for a band who played just a hand full of gigs before this show.....Matt "Guitar" Murphy is on fire, Paul Shaffer showing off his bluesy-chops, and surprisingly Dan Aykroyd is remarkable on harmonica! Anyway.....away we go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4OMWW25Fzc

https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/It-was-1978-the-night-they…

Good Morning Deadmike,
it probably hangs at the customs office. My copy left Atlanta Nov.1st and arrived at FRA airport on Nov. 4 (UPS). USPS tracking did not state (up to now) the departure from FRA, but to my surprise 36 arrived at my home on Nov. 11.
That was pretty quick this time. I've experienced delays by the customs office up to three weeks.
I wish you good luck
G.

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Submitted by Deadicated on Sun, 11/22/2020 - 07:59

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100% in agreement with 12/10/71.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 11/22/2020 - 14:00

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35 years ago today I was at Oakland Auditorium, seeing the Dead. I don't remember much about the show, but I know I was there.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/22/2020 - 15:56

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Dap# 21, 23, 30, 34, . I feel Dap 21 to be the finest. I'm not able to suggest any dicks because i lost most of them into the void. I wish the 79' billerica show would become available in the future since it has an amazing set list. This tape was the ticket when the bus came by for me in 85'.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 11/22/2020 - 22:55

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Jim, that's a great category, 10/31/69. 2/9/73. 6/17/75. 5/26/73 2/17/79. Basically, there are way to many to list, but those are a few.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 11/23/2020 - 03:06

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I was amazed this morning when UPS delivered my copy of Neil Young Archives Vol 2.
I had tried to buy the limited version on the release day from the UK site but they had sold out. I tried the US site and after some struggles to get it to work I saw that I could order a copy. It has arrived about one week after its release date and even more surprisingly, given the cost, there was no demand for VAT.
That should fill a few hours of these rather empty days.
Stay safe, don’t travel for thanksgiving and we’ll see you on the other side when effective vaccines become available.

That’s amazing you received it that fast, but actually, I find most items show up much faster than this site’s shipping speeds. I am in Canada, and I often order CDs from a site in the UK, and I generally have them in 10 days, or less.
Was this the first issue of the NY Archives (that sold out in 24 hours) that you obtained? If so, well done! I have had to settle for the “reissue”, which will be released in March.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/23/2020 - 12:42

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That's been released.. but I'd like to see it re-released on vinyl.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 11/23/2020 - 13:20

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1/2/72, what a great way to start 1972, it rocks.

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