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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Vguy72
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    ....the Europe 72 Cumberland is what got me on the bus. My favorite song too!

  • billy the kid
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    My favorite Dead song is Cumberland Blues and my favorite version is the one on Europe 72. My second favorite version is the one on Workingmans Dead, Garcia adding that banjo in the song, is really a knockout.

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    Good review - I am looking forward to hearing this. Living in sunny England, that might not be for a few weeks yet. Interesting that you compare it to an AUD tape. In many ways, this series is starting to remind me of tapes I used to get from a friend about 20 - 30 years ago. After he had generously taped his entire collection, he dubbed any new shows he got, irrespective of year or origin. So I would never know if he had done an audience 1994 or a soundboard 1972 when I turned up at his house. This series is more like that than it is like Dicks Picks, Vaults or Road Trips. The main difference is that with Dave's Picks you have to pay for them - twice over if you live in Europe.

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    Encore is still to come

    3 27....

  • Huskerwing
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    I signed up for tracking updates from USPS.
    It was nothing but pre shipping since10/24.
    This afternoon I got email that it was delivered. Post Office working hard on Sunday afternoon!
    Sunday night listen is almost as good as one more Saturday night I guess. Keep the faith.

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    Ha..!! here here.

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    Hey Dave, thanks for the in depth review. I've only listened to Midnight Hour, CRS and CCRider. I agree the crowd sound receeds a little into the background, and the energy is very high. I kinda get carried away a little with the enthusiasm, too. I always listen for each player, and I can hear Phil really well, Jerry well and Bobby pretty well. So far not so much Brent. But I aways chalk that up to early sound mixing at the start of the show. I experienced many shows where the sound mix improved as the first set progressed. I hope that is the case here.

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    Hey now today is my 10th anniversary as a member of this forum! It has been so interesting and wonderful to share all these great stories and appreciation of grate music. There was also a time when reading these comments saved me from boredom at work! Thanks for all the inspirational reads over the years.

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    ...Maybe people are still listening? But I'll throw in my 2 cents.

    First of all, the crowd noise doesn't bother me much. There are times when it's a little distracting, but I find that after a song or 2 per set, I stop noticing. Or maybe it recedes as the crowd chills, I don't know. The bigger issue to me is the general murkiness of the sound, which again is more muffled at the start of the sets (or else my ears adjust). Midnight Hour and Cold Rain and Snow, which start the first show, sound like a good AUD tape to me. Now, a good AUD tape of a Dead show is better than 95% of anything else you might choose to listen to... but still, it's a good AUD tape. Compared to some of the pristine shows and boxes we've been getting lately, there is a definite difference.

    I should add also that the equipment I'm listening on absolutely matters as well. I usually listen to CDs in my car because I drive a lot for work. This release, in my car, is borderline unlistenable (it sounds worse than a good AUD tape). But back home on my nice Onkyo CD changer and 1970s Panasonic receiver and speakers (inherited from my father, and still going strong), it sounds better. Not pristine, but much better.

    The performances overall sound tight and very energetic, at least to me. There is no doubt the band was "on" these nights. Jerry's voice sounds good, lyrical flubs are minimal, the solos are energetic and Brent in under control as far as the plinky-plink goes. In fact he's mixed pretty far down and I wouldn't mind him a bit higher, but oh well. His harmony vocals seem on point as well, he's not over-emoting as he tends to do.

    First show highlights, for me, include CC Rider, Esau, and Desolation Row, which is a song I haven't much on past releases (is this a first?). China > Rider opens the second set in fine style, and He's Gone stretches out nicely for 13-plus minutes. There are no 30-minute Dark Stars in these shows, but what jamming there is sounds inspired to me, and the energy never flags. Space > Miracle > Black Peter is a strong sequence, and Mighty Quinn ends the show with style.

    Show #2 opens with Alabama Getaway, which is solid if not spectacular (and suffers from sonic murkiness). Things ramp up with a sweet West LA Fadeaway, too short at 7 min but funky nonetheless, and then a terrific Little Red Rooster with Bobby absolutely drowning in reverb, which I love -- your mileage may vary. I suspect that the ambient mic piping in the crowd noise had a hand in boosting that reverb effect. True or not, it's swampy as hell and suits the vibe perfectly imo. Later the set closes with a solid TMNS, always a fave of mine. This version absolutely smokes, and benefits from the initial clap-along by the crowd . Bobby's vocals get a little lost but the final jam is extended and scorching, with Jerry completely in the zone and pulling some Johnny Winter-level runs up and down the frets.

    Second set opens with Touch, so, okay, but gears up for Samson > Cumberland. Brent's vocals and keys on Cumberland are, again, in service to the song and don't overpower everything else. Estimated > Eyes is also nice, though I prefer the Estimated portion, with lots of jamming and the same tight-but-loose vibe that we've been hearing so far. Nothing face-melting, but nonetheless expressing a kind of joy that's just really infectious. (Post-coma love of life? I couldn't say.) Bobby's vocals are fully present for Estimated, happily. Later in the set, Space into UJB is a lovely transition, and Morning Dew lives up to its hype. It's a powerful version.

    Sorry if I've rattled on too long... I used to review records, and tend to go granular. Short version: If you can look past the somewhat muffled sound and happy crowd, the performance is peppy and smile-inducing. I would rate this release a 7/10, subject to going down a point upon further review (it probably will not go up a point).

    Stay safe everyone... and please vote :-)

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    @ Huskerwing Yes I have the same problem. My DP36 is also stuck between UPS and USPS. I am a subscriber and it was suppose to arrive here in Va on 10/28/20 but never did. Tracking is still saying it left Butner, NC on Monday 10/26/20 to be inducted into USPS and has not updated since. What do we do?

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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39 years ago today I was at Fiesta Hall for a really fun show with the Dead. High Noon opened the show with Mickey Hart & Merle Saunders , Bill Kreutzman also joined them. The Dead came on and backed Joan Baez with an acoustic set, opened the show with Me & Bobbie Magee. The electric Dead came on and did a great set, nice Dire Wolf, nice Cold Rain & Snow. It was a benefit show called Dance for Disarmament, it was a relatively small place and the Dead seemed like they were having fun. A great warm-up for the year end shows at the Oakland Auditorium.

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Was at the 12/12/81 benefit. It was a small venue. I don’t think it was a 100’ feet from the back wall to the stage. The New Years run was the best December Grateful Dead concerts I ever attended.

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Hey Strider, I'm glad you were at the show, I had alot of fun. Youre right about those 1981 year end shows at the Oakland Auditorium, they were a blast! I went to all of them, big fun! Have a great day.

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Putting your brain into hyperspace sounds even better.
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The show was a little mild as they started with other artists from around the country doing a seasonal tune...then when the 'Bos actually started they performed a lot old tunes from last year's Christmas album...after the song "Teresa" things picked up...Cesar was a no show (again) and they're breaking in a new drummer who isn't quite there yet but it was only his second gig I believe...and damn...the Crown Royal Cask No. 16 was good...

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....i figured it out. Fell asleep before it was over though. LOL. I'll revisit the rest tonight.

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.... but after the recent discussion about the Gretsch(sp?). I know Dave has one as his avatar. A lot of people like them, I know nothing about such thing. But found this video and this woman is playing one. It DOES have a nice sound!! I never heard of this woman but maybe someone will enjoy. Opening song is a bang up job.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/caSZX4OkAGzA/

On The Beatles...what gets me is that their recording years encompassed all of eight years...from "I Want To Hold Your Hand" to side two "Abbey Road" in eight years? Incredible...

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Yup you're right about the Yardbirds trying to snag writing credits from Tiny Bradshaw...Burnette and company did credit Bradshaw, had to dig up a photo of the Coral 45 for confirmation...so many bands tried to that and the Yardbirds were just as guilty as any of their peers...I've always been bugged about that concerning "Jeff's Boogie" which is just an amped up garage version of "Guitar Boogie" by Chuck Berry...also before I forget about Sister Rosetta Tharpe and the video that was posted here...that is part of a five DVD set of the American Folk Blues Festival tours in Germany and the UK in the early 60's, a must have set for anyone interested in the original Blues artists...lots and lots of good stuff ...highly recommended

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Hey Nappy, you're a 100% right on the American Folk Blues Festival DVDs, a must have for anybody whose into blues music. I have them, they are fantastic!

Gretsch. Brian Setzer is one of its finest exponents, and his Hot Rod models are things of beauty. The sound is amazing. The one I have always had an eye for, though, is the White Falcon . I try to trade a guitar in for every new one I buy these days. But don't know what I could trade in to afford a White Falcon. My car, probably.

They played it when I saw them in London on10/3/81, too. Spine tingling.
Old and In the Way playing as I type - a comparatively new album to me, and very nice too! This is the release from about 1976 that came out originally on Round Records.

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Christmas to all on here!! 2021 can't come soon enough. I think I will have to give Garcia Live Vol.15 my Fave of the year award. So ferocious(Primal!!) and full of joy.
DAVEROCK, have you considered asking Santa Claus for a White Falcon?? I hear he's loaded this year.
JIMINMD, I hope you get a Turbo-Booster for your lawn mower Time-Machine.
For everyone else, I hope you all get Tons of beer & buds!!

Music is the best!!

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9/8/73 Nassau. Wow!

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Hey.. weren't we just talking about this tour somewhere? Pretty cool.. the vibe made it's way to Senor Sasquatch.

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If you enjoy that album, you may want to look into 'Live At The Boarding House' Box Set. They played 2 nights there: 10/1/73 & 10/8/73, 2 shows per night; from those performances there were 4 individual releases. An FYI if you'd like more.

Davestrang - thanks to a good friend of mine on here-Martin-I have copies of two cds from the Boarding House October 1973. I started playing one of these earlier on. Also great-an unexpected ( to me ) version of "The Great Pretender" two songs in, followed by "Catfish John".

Mr Ones-White Falcon-sounds like a hint that you have got one for me for Christmas!

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Has anyone else not received their Dave’s 36? I have a string of emails going back to early November with responses indicating a new order would be placed but still no delivery. My first go round with this, long term subscriber with no other issues. Any advice would be appreciated.

Still missing mine. I think they had to print more, likely the result of continuing warehouse fiascos.. but I haven't heard much either.

Time for Plan B. Effective immediately all warehouse functions are being transitioned to my basement. A fleet of highly trained, stoner bicycle messengers are being assembled to expedite shipping. Not only are these the worlds best bicycle messengers, they're fans too. For our overseas friends.. please be patient as our amphibious bikes have this problem where they sometimes sink.. but fear not, our crack technical support team has some promising ideas in the works.

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Sadly, when I went to the cash register to pay for your white falcon, it turned out that I was just a LITTLE bit short on funds. Good news however, I did put in a request to the North Pole, and I feel pretty good about your chances for 12/25 delivery. Check under the tree, next to the fireplace!!

Peace and love to all, stay safe and be well. Only 15 days until we can kiss 2020 goodbye.

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I have to advise you that kissing anything apart from, perhaps, your own well scrubbed wrist is not recommended at this time. I can guarantee that if I was kissing anything it wouldn’t be 2020.
Stay well, stay safe and let’s hope next year will get better eventually.

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Great show! Great recording! Thanks Dave!

Maybe some day Hampton or Philly.

ps. It's like a McDonnell Douglas DC-10 wide-body landing at Laguardia!

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Fantastic band that I learned about in college due to being introduced to Peter Rowan, Vassar Clements, and David Grisman. I thought it was a cool added bonus that Jerry Garcia was on banjo. The first time I'm aware of loving some Jerry Garcia music was actually from hearing Shady Grove, the one on the album named Shady Grove by Garcia and Grisman. A guy was playing it at his booth at a flea market, and I thought it was one of the best songs I'd ever heard. So, finding out Jerry played straight ahead bluegrass with OAITW a couple years later, and was playing banjo just blew my mind. Got to see Old & In the Gray at Merlefest in 2001 with Herb Pedersen on banjo and Bryn Bright on bass accompanying the originals Rowan, Grisman, and Vassar Clements. A few months later I got to talk to Vassar a little bit at a smaller fest called Brushy Mountain Jamboree, he was playing with Larry Keel, Curtis Burch, and Joe Craven. They did a Lonesome Fiddle Blues that was simply spectacular, Craven and Clements going back and forth on fiddle like Johnny and the Devil in the bastardization of Clements classic fiddle tune.

Anyway, you can't go wrong with any of their stuff. And I hope more of those reels exist at the Owsley Foundation and a release comes out next year. They alluded to hoping for four releases next year, including the biggest name in their vault. I'm not sure whether they can actually put out a Dead release through the OSF, so perhaps the biggest name they do have would be OAITW.

Also, was listening to DaP 5 11/17/73, and The Sequence hit me better this time for some reason, but as I pulled into my parking spot Eyes was dying away and Jerry was clearly playing it to segue into China Doll when Bob starts up Sugar Magnolia instead. Jerry immediately followed. In Bob's defense, they had just done Stella Blue and Morning Dew, so maybe he was ready for some hotel action.

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Good man! A white falcon was made to be propped up beside a tree on Christmas morning.

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I saw that guitar the other day when I was out, but didn't go inspect it close up. I think it was at a Guitar Center, maybe another music shop I was in, but that looks pretty sweet. Like the semi-hollow and Les Paul kind of shape, but more of a PRS vibe. But as I am an awful guitarist, I can play it at the store and admire it, and settle for my Ovation.

And Daverock, the White Falcon may be prettier, but the Orange Gretsch that Joe Walsh gave Pete Townshend gave the world Who's Next and Quadrophenia. I like that crunchier sound.

Alvarhanso-yes, that's a great sound that Pete Townshend got with that orange Gretsch.

Gretsch's come fitted with various different pickups, but the main two would seem to be single coil dynasonics, or humbuckers-the modern ones styled by T.V.Jones. The choice of amplifier is obviously a massive component in producing the sound, but basically, the humbuckers seem more disposed to produce the crunch, and the single coils the twang. Personally, I go for the twang - so many greats - a favourite among many is Cliff Gallup who got a great glassy tone with Gene Vincent with his Gretsch Duo Jet. Which looked a bit like a Les Paul, but was hollow.

Perhaps I should also add that I too am a crap guitarist. If a thing is worth doing, and you can't do it well - it's still worth doing it badly in my books.

....hoping for better shipping updates and deliveries, but I think it will be bigger. And better. '69 Ark Box?
TPTB do listen to these boards.

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When I think of the Pete Townsend sound I think SG through a Marshall halfstack or 6.

A big orange Gretsch makes me thing Chet Atkins. I haven't played a lot of Gretsch guitars admittedly. I'd like to try out one of those Chet models. I know Setzer is known as a Gretsch player; he's closer to Townsend than Atkins.

I bought a PRS in May this year. Its my first and I get what eveyone is talking about. The attention to detail, quality and playability are stunning. I also get the point that they don't seem to have that distinct tone of a Lespaul or strat.

I'm planning on getting another PRS though, over anything else. I'm blown away by the craftsmanship.

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The one Walsh gave him was used almost exclusively for recording from Who's Next on to apparently the present day according to a recent interview. Walsh, who is also not really known as a Gretsch guy, loved the guitar, but thought Townshend could make better use of it sonically, and he was right. That chambered body and his use of feedback create rich tones. The SG period was 1968-71, then numbered Les Pauls from 1972 until 1982, when a Telecaster was added. The Gretsch was used and smashed on a Top of the Pops "performance". I think it was 5:15. Most of his smashed guitars, he and Bobby Pridden would fix after the show. I think he did play the Gretsch at the Concert for Eric Clapton at the Rainbow in 1973 to get Clapton off heroin, at which Clapton oddly played a Les Paul.

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He's actually quite versatile, Brian Setzer. He can finger pluck with the best of them. In a typical performance he throws in jazz, blues, blue grass, country, rock n' roll-everything but the kitchen sink, really. And sometimes that too. I have one live dvd where he plays "The Race is On"...on a banjo! I've only ever seen him play with The Stray Cats-I'd love to see The Brian Setzer Orchestra live. Not likely to happen!

I got into rock n' roll, as opposed to rock, in 1981 when I first saw The Stray Cats and The Cramps. Same year as I saw The Dead-but they seemed to disappear off the map shortly after I saw them. The Cramps came over at least once every other year throughout the 1980s. Up until then I had thought rock n' roll was a bit of a joke. Big fat Teddy Boys in their 40s. Which was old to me at the time. But The Cramps shone a different kind of light on the 1950s and early 60s, and as the 80s were a bit vapid, that was where I chose to go.

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I've owned over 100 guitars in the last 50 years(bought, sold, traded - it's a disease), and no matter what, I always go back to Telecasters; they're built like tanks, and I can get pretty much any sound(except metal.) My next favorite is the Les Paul Special TV yellow, these have the raunchiest P-90s ever created.
Martin made some nice archtops with Dynasonics in the 60s, they sound just like Gretsches and are cheaper. I love old Guilds too...had a '56 M75 Aristocrat, it was Guild's answer to the Les Paul; fantastic guitar, similar as a LP but the
body was chambered. Also had a Gretsch-made Bigsby repro of Billy Byrd's guitar that looked and sounded great.

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Fantastic instruments. I have only bought budget ones apart from an entry level American model, a pink paisley Japanese model...and a few years ago I saw one of the original three pickup James Burton's from the 90s-going for a song as they have since been updated. Its a great guitar, but perhaps not the one to choose for classic tele tones.

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I had just finished reading a Brian Setzer interview in which he praises Gretsch Guitars when, lo and behold, up came the guitar discussion here. If anyone is interested there is a link to the article below. I always loved The Stray Cats!

https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/stray-cats-legend-brian-setzer-noth…

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mistakenly ordered two subscriptions this year and would like to offer Daves 35 and 36 as a package deal for cost plus shipping (around $65-$70 total). My only request (honor system) is that you don't buy to flip on eBay but rather listen and enjoy. For any or you who missed out, first one who PM's me gets them. I'll even try to get to you to get under your tree on 12/25 (but no guarantees).

Deadegad - thanks for including that interview with Brian Setzer. I was at that gig where they play "Rock This Town" in one of the film clips included - the one at The Hammersmith Odeon, London on 27th June last year - a great night. That album he refers to in the article"40" is well worth getting if you haven't got it yet. There is also a live album from that last tour which is on my radar.

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Your welcome. That's s a good interview and I liked the insight he gave on a Gretsch. I was streaming "40" via Amazon and will buy the physical cd because I like physical products and supporting the artists too. It would be great to a see a Stray Cats show at The Hammersmith Odeon or another band. I have an official Zappa show from that venue and bootlegs of other bands from Dimeadozen.

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Yes, you can't beat good old live venues, and vinyl or cds for later on. I got "40" on silver- grey vinyl, and it kicks like a donkey.

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Keith Richards birthday today-77 in terms of linear time. If I drank I'd drunk.

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Lives here in the Twin Cities; puts on a Christmas show that I've heard great things about, but it's expensive and sells out right away (or close enough that one has to sit in the nose-bleed section for big bucks). The other issue is that he always BEGINS the Christmas tour here in Minnesota, so the show is the first week of November, when I'm NOT ready for Christmas music.

I was ready last year to pay attention and jump on tickets immediately, but then the poor guy's tinnitus got so bad that he had to cancel the entire tour of about twenty cities.

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