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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

    David Lemieux
    October 2020

    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • Vguy72
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    Meanwhile....

    ....AC/DC just put out a new record.
    My amp goes to 11.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Steady supply of releases

    Yes dreading.

    Keep ‘em coming Dave and gang.

  • dreading
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    I own a music store business. I don't know if you're interested in the mechanics of business, but trust me when I say this business model is the absolute best way to ensure we, as fans, get a steady supply of 4 Dave's Picks a year, 1 or 2 box sets, and all of the special features like 50th anniversary editions that have incredible multi track concerts attached to them. Having stock of every release laying around for 10 years means they don't have budget for all the goodies I mentioned. It could mean the difference between 4 Dave's Picks a year and maybe only 2. Maybe only a box set every other year. Trust me on this. You have to move product to stay within budget, whether you're a small business or a segment of a large business like Warner. It's the same concept behind retail stores having periods of time where merchandise is available at a lower "Sale" price. They don't do that because they're nice. They do that to move product and stay in budget. Offering the series up as a subscription works for them because it allows them to project sales in the long term. They offer up the bonus disc to ensure they know exactly how big their core"Dead Base" is. The scales of supply and demand have a lot of factors involved, and the limited edition model plus the bonus disc incentive keeps them in business selling Grateful Dead music and us happy listening to it.

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    I don't know...is it a question of inappropriately feeling entitled? I see it as just wanting to know what's for sale so I can make a decision as to whether I want to buy it or not. I just don't get why they can't announce a shows date before its released, so that those as want it can buy it, and this as don't...don't. No other band I like does all this. It feels like I have to join some sort of club to get shows-and I am not by any means a joiner.

    On the vinyl front-Dicks Picks 26 is a mind blower. And I have only just realised that the encore for one of the shows-4/26/69-Viola Lee Blues-is included in The Phil Zone, but is not on Dicks Picks. Its only taken me 18 years..

  • fourwindsblow
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    Subs

    I doubt this will happen with the increased run, but you never know. If they sell a lot of subs they will pull the subs so that they have a few thousand to sell a la cart. Happened a couple years ago subs ended before the end of December.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Just so happens I still have the email announcements

    12-30-19

    We're thrilled to announce that we've just locked in Dave's Picks Vol. 34, the second release in the Dave's Picks series of 2020, and it's a mighty powerful show: the complete performance from June 23, 1974, at Miami's Jai-Alai Fronton.

    1-6-20

    This is it! There are only two days left to become a 2020 Dave's Picks subscriber. Subscriptions will come to end on Wednesday, January 8th at 11:59 PM PST.
    DAVE'S PICKS 2020 SUBSCRIPTION BENEFITS
    Four Limited Edition, Numbered Releases
    Dave's Picks 33: 10/29/77 Dekalb, IL
    Dave's Picks 34: 6/23/74 Miami, FL
    Dave's Picks 35 & 36 To Be Revealed!
    Highly Collectible Bonus Disc - nearly 80 minutes of music from 6/22/74

  • hendrixfreak
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    Thanks gentlemen, and I use that term loosely....

    Right, we're waiting for the subscriptions to close, THEN Dave will talk #38 and make those who failed to sub gnash their teeth. (He said "gnash"...) I'm perennially looking forward to something to look forward to, so if # 38 be epic, let it be known!

    Wilfred T: On the robot front, think about it. At least in fiction and movies, they DO make mistakes, often malevolent ones, and that's when the "fun" begins. Think about the problems the astronaut "Dave" had, once "Hal" didn't like what "Dave" was doing in 2001: A Space Odyssey. (Edit: Wait! "Dave"???)

    On the foot front, my first-ever broken bones, at age 63+, and with two elderly family members seemingly on the cusp of surviving covid, I ain't bitchin', though I've had to switch gears. Lots of reading and delving into the veritable pile of new music CDs on my coffee table.

    Carry on...

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Nothing has changed with ala carte sales

    Except that they go on sale the day that the release is ‘released’ to the subscribers. Thus, an attempt to deflect the criticisms from some subscribers that happens with every release when people who buy ala carte receive their copy before some subscribers receive their copy.

    It doesn’t change demand. A hot show will sell out at the same rate whether the arbitrary day is a ‘pre-sale’ day or a ‘release’ day.

    It’s amazing how many people complain that they have been cheated, scammed, and/or mislead with these releases that they feel they are so rightfully entitled to, and how dare GD/Rhino/Dave do anything other than cater directly to these people.

    Failed or delayed delivery, damaged product, wrong resolution download, etc are legitimate complaints and should be promptly fixed by a competent customer service office (which Rhino apparently no longer has).
    But GD/Rhino does not have to apologize for setting the terms for which they sell their product.

  • daverock
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    No more pre orders

    Another under hand technique to manipulate people. Along with the early bird bribe, the bonus disc and the limited amount of discs available for stand alone orders. Liking so much of the music, its always tempting to go along with it. But its seems more tempting this year to wave two fingers at them, and opt out.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JukZBGgv8I

    Time to leap into a worthwhile memory...

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
October 2020

Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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Your rave about Morning Dew on this night has a backstory. I was a freshman at W&M, and, like many fellow travelers, looked forward to this show as a highlight of the spring. The weather was warming, the campus was heading into finals, and the Dead were coming. One odd coincidence, which I believe accounts in part for this being the Dead's last show at W&M, was that the show coincided with admitted students weekend, which meant that the College had planned, among other events, a free lunch behind the Campus cafeteria. The Deadheads were very impressed by the hospitality they were receiving, which definitely was not meant for them. I distinctly remember awed Heads lining up for free fried chicken among the scrubbed families.
The other thing that happened that weekend was that Little Feat had played the night before in DC, and four popular seniors had driven up for the show. On the way back, they lost control of the car, and all four died. The campus was traumatized. The fraternity to which they all belonged had planned a party weekend around the Dead show, which now had taken on a completely different cast. There would be no big party, but there still was a Dead show.
One of the fraternity brothers had written a note to the band about the four who had died and requested a Morning Dew in their honor. When does the Dead take requests, right? During the show, they note got the note to Phil, who read it on stage, and you know what happened then.

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I went to order the Dave picks 2021 subscription which says it includes free shipping.
When I go to check out I’m being charged 11.99. Does anyone else have the same issue?

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9/7 I think will go like this:

Bird Song 13:05
Playin 17:55
Truckin 10:43
Drums 02:27
Other 1 Jam 07:07
Eyes 18:57
Sugar Mag 09:28

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Dave says in the email that the "Playing in the Band" & "Bird Song" will be a part of the main release. So, that leaves more than 30 minutes of space on the bonus disc, which may then include the "Here Comes Sunshine" & "Let it Grow>Stella Blue" in addition to the second set jam. Nearly two hours of 9/7 is to be included for subscribers.

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Okay! I didn't know that and you are probably right. I'm okay with that. Thanks!

Nice TLEO and J. Straw too.

Thanks for sharing your story. Crazy stuff.
Hope this was one of many shows for you.

Unrelated, the Dave's subscriptions are advertised as Free Shipping. I feel sorry for anyone trying to get that straighted out.

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Pigpen and my moms birthday, this will be a nice addition to my collection. Thanks!

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"a nice addition to my collection"

and

"Can't complain if we receive more tunes."

someone probably will complain, anyway.

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The website front page ad for the 2021 subscription still says free domestic shipping so if you live in the US you shouldn’t have to pay shipping. However, the subscription period ends on 8th Jan 2021 so good luck getting a response on that time scale, particularly with the holiday season in the way. If you are outside the US then, like me, you pay shipping whenever you subscribe. Looking forward to all the picks and the first two look good to me.

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Words can’t express just how bored I am with Grateful Dead shows from the 70’s, and really the Grateful Dead in general. I don’t understand how Dave Lemieux can champion the Grateful Dead’s long career when it suits his marketing platform, but then ignore one-third of the band’s career when it comes to picking shows for the Dave’s Picks series. If Dave Lemieux really can’t find a decent show from ‘88-‘95 then maybe it’s time to find another archivist.

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some 89ers; some 90's; 91, too.

I think 93-95 will be left up to archive listening.

but 89, 90, 91 does have some good stuff.

I bet there would be howlings of discontent, though, if anything after 89 got Dave'd.

just keep putting it out, Dave 'n pals.

did you dig April 84 and March 87, PFox?

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They were ok. I would have dropped the Day Job on #35, and replaced it with the 4/19/84 encore It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue. I don’t think anyone would have complained.

For me it’s always been about diversity. I want a greater representation of songs, and a greater representation of sounds. I primarily listen to my music on shuffle, whether it be at the gym, in the car, in the shower, or as I fall asleep. The Grateful Dead have dominated my collection like an invasive species. I just have so many of their albums now. I was really hoping Dave’s Picks would end in 2020, because I knew I’d keep buying the subscription just to complete the set. I ‘m still holding out hope Dave releases some shows from ‘88-‘95 before the series eventually ends.

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I'm all for more '80s dead... but do think it's sort of ridiculous to say that releases are stuck in the '70s. (Not that there'd be anything wrong with that!) Just consider the last 10, Vols. 27-36: Counting 31 (12/3/79) as an '80s show, which I think is fair, you've got 4/10 from the '80s. This of course led to some criticism from the other end of the spectrum. In addition to those, there was the 2019 box set, including five shows from '87, '89, and '91.

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....regarding 80's / 90's Dead. There was that Giants box. And the RKF 7.12-13.89 appetizer offering.
A 90's release would be welcome. I agree.
Love me some SpongeBob. Watched it with my son when he didn't get the adult jokes. How he's 18 and its a whole new show.

I think he writes this crap just to get a rise from people. Invasive species, no diversity.. really? A great band with an impressive archival release history. No other band even comes close. Bored with the Dead, perhaps, accurate in his comments, hardly.

What 92 through 95 shows would it take to make you happy?? What shows.. name ten. Then let's see what ten shows others come up with here and lets take a cross section on how many coincide with the ten mentioned. If there is a huge overlap, I would call that a giant marketing failure. But I am a data guy and I think PFox is just stirring the pot to get a rise. 88 through 90 is already well represented and 91's time will come.

Call me crazy and I am not an era guy. Love good 80's and 90's shows. Loved RFK, spring 90 and most recently the Giant Box. Loved em.

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....twas a good offering. And the Silver Bowl was hopping.
Tortilla fights.
Steve. Miller. Tripping with my sister.

So was Vegas '91. Santana then Sting. I think the good shows from 92 through 95 will come out. But then there's 12/18/73 and a host of others that compete against the few new releases we get each year. 6/9/73, 6/30/85, 12/5/71, most of the fall 72, 10/12/68? I don't think Lemieux will be looking for work at Amazon anytime soon. Keep in mind the economics of production. Restoration, remastering, printing, warehousing, distribution, artwork etc... wishing a show to be released and making it happen are two entirely different beasts.

I'm not against late era shows. Boxzilla did an excellent job of highlighting how good some of the late era shows were and how good the soundboards sound. Boston had some great later era shows too, among other venues. All good things in all good time.

Anyway, onward. every now and again a negative post conflicts with otherwise productive comments and I stop and say to myself wtf would it take to make some people happy, especially someone that appears tired of the GD to begin with and seemingly only contributes here to complain about release picks. We are in the middle of a decent run of released music with good depth and diversity. Enjoy it.

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Jim, I agree with 10/12/68, I would love to see them clean that up and put it out, that show burns! What else, 10/31/69, 9/20/70, 6/17/75, 7/13/76, 2/17/79, 4/22/79 and on and on. The Complete October 1974 Winterland run, audio & video, I do believe that will happen one day. There are some great 1980s Frost Greek, and Ventura shows that would make for nice releases, there hasn't been one release from any of those venues. I sure had a blast at those early 80s shows. 8/16/91 from Shorline has Dark Star into Promised land in the 1st set, that burns, that would make a cool release. I think that covers all eras.

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Summer '88 single
Spring '89 Greensboro make a nice 4 cd pick.
'89 Summer and Fall, Winter boxes.
July '90 box or singles.
Fall 90 singles.
'91 singles. 3/17 June, Fall
12/92
Fall '93
10/94
One more '95 June Albany

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Man, a '69 Ark box would be the shit!

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Do we know if Bear's master reels were returned??

ps. 4/6 and 4/7 1969 both first set will fit on disc 1 and both second sets
will fit on disc 2 and 3.

Hello everybody!

Oops! Sorry for cussing earlier.

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I was shocked, (again), by the asking price of stuff. I see the complete fillmore west set going for 900 bucks, what were they new?

Anyway, I think I know the answer, but did Rhino ever release the 3rd night of that fillmore run? (3/1/69) (vinyl)

Something brought it to mind, it's seems like it's been a while since 2/28 came out.

Any opinions or knowledge of possible release?

If they release it I might even get a turntable!

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These are right in my wheelhouse.

Hopefully on the seaside chat, or backyard chat he discusses the thought process for partially releasing 9-7. As a huge fan of this era I would love all the full shows and i feel like releasing 80 minutes of 9-7 precludes a full release down the line. Was this choice made because a reel is missing from 9-7? Seems complete on the archive version i'm jamming right now. But i'll pop back in and comment if it goes to audience for a spell.

Alternatively, was it a performance reason? Was some portion not up to snuff?

Just throwing this out there for discussion. I always viewed the bonus disc as a way to get out some really hot stuff where they couldn't release the full show for whatever reason. If that's the case for 9-7, what's the thinking?

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I hear we are getting almost two hours of music.

woooooooooooow....

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If you need my skills...$200 per hour. "another fine skill I can offer you all".

oh! now boats, too! I "fiddled aimlessly" before posting.

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No, that one hasn't come out on vinyl...yet (he says, hopefully). I was expectingit to be released this year after 2/27 and 2/28 came out in the previous two years. I compensated by forking out for Dicks Picks 26 on vinyl-4/26 and 4/27/69. Mine is number 1184 of 1500. It cost a bomb-but its worth every penny.

Although I stand by Elvis Presley making some best records in recorded time...he also made some of the worst. "Blue Hawaii" playing at the moment. Sheesh.

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I have that in a original day 45, Blue Hawaii on one side, Wooden Heart on the other!

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If there's a queue for this release, you and I are at the front, Daverock. Just hoping it's not handled the way 2/28/69 and 5/9/77 have been. The 2/28 release was put out in some record stores in July/August 2019, others had them on order and were selling them online before they had them, then dead.net announced they would be selling the leftovers in September. The 5/9/77 release, which was pushed back due to COVID was still handled terribly because there is no actual list price available, and record stores have gotten dozens of copies to sell on ebay at an average of $165, but no record stores I called in the Boston area had it, but one shop on ebay had sold 40 copies when I bought mine from them, which with tax and shipping ended being just over $150. 5/8/77 was $99.98 here, so it sucks paying these prices, but I don't want to pay $200+ because dead.net never puts it on sale here and it ends up being gone.

I lucked out on getting that DiP 26 vinyl from Real Gone when they had it on their site. I haven't opened it yet, it's too pretty all sealed up.

Also, if anyone needs 2/28/69 on vinyl target.com has them for 80 bucks. They had very reasonable deals on recent Allman Brothers vinyl releases: Fillmore East Feb 1970 Owsley release, 1/31/71 Fillmore West.

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If I were to pick a first for this series from the last 5 years I would either hit Dec 90, Spring 91 or Fall 91. I could probably find 10 to 20 candidates from the 90s.

88 would love to see Laguna Seca released. 89 ton of great spring shows. 85 has many classic tape collector favorites.

How about a Frost box? Seems every show played at that venue had something special and unique in the setlists and performances. Hidden gems.

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Playing In The Band - Laguna Seca, Monterey, CA, 7/29/88

This was released on disc 4 of So Many Roads box and it's sick check it out!

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Dennis-that sounds quite nice. Might be worth a bob or two, too. I just have the album on a cd compilation. Not the most played album in my collection I have to say.

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Frost Box! Frost Box! Frost Box! Yes!

There were some great shows there.

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