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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Shoot OB, you were busy this weekend. Nice work. Yes, the aud recording for 3/29/83 is an okay audience recording. A little rough.

    I have been digging into some past box sets. Enjoyed the tour through LTTR. I really like the MSG box. I keep listening to all six shows periodically. Love them! Such a different time period than all the past box sets. Hope we get more of these in the years to come.
    Going to hit 5/19/74 from the PNW box today. Interested? I think this might be my least played show from this box.

    Looking forward to this year's box. Wish we didn't have to wait so long to find out what it will be. Not sure where Dave is going this year. I do think they will release the October Winterland shows for the 50th anniversary next year (at least I hope it happens) Enjoy your Superbowl Sunday out there.

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    Though 3/29/83 is a decent enjoyable show, it unfortunately was only a mediocre aud, not a SB as advertised?
    Liked the Miller a little better than the other one.
    Ok Jack, and Bird song in cool spot, some status quo first setters, interesting early, alternate lyric 4th Easu, another Bob song I always liked but perhaps didn’t understand fully, lol. Nice Big RR, though not quite like those ripping 81s! Into GSET for another interesting fun set.

    Second we get the second time out for H/S/F since 77. Good, welcome effort but all three songs had some ruff spots.
    Rest pretty typical for the time with still sorta new feeling Stones and haven’t nailed the slick Segway into NFA yet.
    Rocking JBG and another sweet Baby Blue. 83 has some nice ones!
    So not a mind blower, and the Aud might scare some off, but hey, that’s what happens sometimes “when we just ride”
    Some times you eat the Baaaarr, sometimes the Baaarr eats you. But nothing ventured, nothing gained…
    Going next night, 3/30/83 for extra credit since it appears to be a SB…maybe hit Docs primal I’m behind on later?

    EDIT: DHB hat trick?…technically probably not, but did complete 3/29/83, 3/30/83, 2/2/68, and 2/3/68!
    All were dug, some more than others. 3/30 seemed a step up from 2/29/83 and the 68s were proper, forgot how much Clemtine has an ABB vibe to it, good sheet Mon!

    Don’t think I’m in the video? We were center lawn in fairly close.
    Went with the CD this go round…

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    I have always liked this show and the video. And you were there OB, that is great. Sounds like fun. Are you in the video?

    Yes. the first two songs get the show off to a great start, Truckin, at the number 2 slot! That second set jam/space after Terrapin is interesting. Charlie Miller has the whole sequence as Terrapin, but I think it moves out of Terrapin. Anyway, great stuff. Love those Baby Blue closers. If you stay tuned in after the encore they have some great bonus footage from 10/2/87 from Shoreline. Another great show.

    Alright, count me in on the 83 show!

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    Howsa bouta a little 83 energy for a Fri yea?

    6/16/90: good call DV! Haven’t heard this since the Shakedown Stream, man those were fun.
    Needed some kind of ritual at the time, even TOO watched and she ain’t really into the dead.

    Always dug a good Good Times Roll opener, usually a good sign. Fun Truckin if not mind blowing, solid Touch O,
    Nice FOTD, hot Cassidy, fun but perhaps trepid Big Boss, but fun non the less, and another slightly unusual and fun OMSN to close a fun set.
    Though the first might not of been thoroughly consistent, the second set gets going nice, good versions of most songs, and a nice China Doll in spite of Jerry struggling a bit. Rousing Mags and and always welcome sweet Baby Blue encore. But!…But, to me that whole sequence from Estimated, terrapin and all that awesome psychedelic goodness that follows is what makes this show stand out for moi.
    For a while I was thinking “this shows ok but..?, “ by half way through the second those thoughts were gone baby gone. It’s a shame JG didn’t fully nail the China as that would of really took it up a notch overall.
    Good show, even better in person, first trip to the promised land, hot 20 year old GF along, tripping the light fandango in the cool California night sea breeze. What a trip that was, sighhhh.
    Dems we’re da daze…

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    That image that shows either two faces or a chalice depending on how you look at it.
    If I try to hear those anomalies I can, but if I just crank up some tunes and don’t try, then I only notice when it gets bad, if that makes sense. Another variable: plangent etc. Those old Road Trips and Dicks didn’t have the benefit of Plangent.
    Capitol 71 bonus disc did, AND, their multitrack so if say Bobby had some weird noise issues on his line, it couid isolated and messed with. Wood really love to hear some of that deconstruction tech they used on the Beatles…

    St Louie: going in I thought I was going to dig the 73 the most, and that one disc probably is my pick of the litter. I thought I’d dig the 71, but comparatively not as much as the other 2 years. But at first the 71s really stood out to me.
    I love when that happens!
    I think I recall thinking the music was great overall, but that there were some unfortunate anomalies.
    I guess to get full shows that’s going to happen sometimes especially in years that have been mined more extensively.
    To me when it comes down to it and your properly prepped and ready, once you settle in it’s all about the music!
    Like the band entraining, after a while it all becomes one…

    DV with a call for 6/16/90. That sounds good, just not sure if I should wait and watch it, or just fire it up now?
    Thinking I might dabble this WE with the Louie…still have some primal Doc to catch up on too.
    Finally getting a few extra days off, then one last push at this job swapping out net and installing new Cisco stacking tech. Owners are supposed to be gone so maaaayyybbbeee I can catch some tunes. I really need to get a portable personal rig but I’m such a snob that would get pricey and more importantly I don’t have time, err, if /when I do have time I’d rather just sit and listen to tunes!
    So 6/16/90, think that was my 86th show, weird/cool vibe, you had to be there, or maybe it was the roses ; )

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    For me there's a certain point where both the right brain and left brain agree that it's kick ass Grateful Dead I am listening to and recording anomalies fade into a blissfull background.

    Let it be known i am a recording snob.. so it hurts by my left and right to commit to great performance vs. great recording.

    I still think so highly of this run. Warts and all, it's classic Fall '72 GD.

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    Appreciate the insight Jim, BC and OB.
    I have found sometimes, for whatever reason I hear differently after the first go around with the Dave's and the Box sets. Most of the time, I think damn this sounds so good, once in a while I think, this sounds a little off. Sometimes I panic and think my speakers must be blown. I need to go out and replace them.
    Of course, yes, we are lucky they recorded almost all these shows. We all know there are all kinds of different results of the shows and recordings for various reasons. I would think there is no way Norman finished mastering 10/18/72 and texted Dave and said you can't believe how good this sounds. I could be wrong.
    I totally hear what you are saying on the 71 shows OB. Some of them definitely have a different sound to them, Dick's 35, RT#1.3. Great, but different. And then I compare them to the 71 Port Chester shows which sound incredible and are some of my alll time favorites.

    Jim, sorry to hear about the issues you are having, definitely hard stuff to deal with.

    Let me offer up Charlie Miller's 100th show for tomorrow, 6/16/90. There is a newer version from the man himself from 2019 and the version from VFTV III.

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    So I saved.. squirrelled, pinched pennies for 45 years and finally dropped the dime on my dream system I have been planning for all these years. I went completely with Fender Amps on the recommendation of some guy named Hal and now I read this.

    What are these McIntosh items of which you speak?

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    OB- Kenny Ban??. The Fatigues episode.

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    Man I wish I had time….for anything lol
    I’ll try to check some more of these audio anomalies out this WE.
    Hit me with examples if ya got em.

    Ive noticed this phenomenon with other recordings, think mostly 71-72s.
    Definitely could be tape degradation and/or perhaps a little oversaturated originally, but I think there’s amp distortion going on too? They were still mostly using dirty fender power at this stage. So like any real Rock and roller by the end of the night the amps are on 11 etc and with those old tube power sections/power supplies their easy to overdrive.
    By 73 they had pretty much fully switched to big McIntosh power amps, though they were still using the Fenders for pre amps. Like your pre amp at home though, you wouldn’t be pushing the pre amp that much (let the power amp do the heavy lifting). Think overworking a small car engine versus barely stepping on a big V8.
    Could be compromised cabling somewhere. Could be dirty and/or insufficient venue power too? That’s the problem with E lic tri city though, could be a number of things. Probably a bit of all the above…

    Yep BC, glad your digging the nice February weather. These days where it’s sunny and up in the 30s, “it’s gold Jerry, gold I tell ya! I should try to check out the ole St Louie, Louie, box, another I’ve barely been introduced too.
    Hoping 🤞I might be getting a little quality time off soon.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Did you know that the city of Albuquerque, NM hosts the world's largest gathering of hot-air balloons, every October at a venue referred to as Balloon Fiesta Park?

Far out huh?

From the looks of wikipedia, there's tons of other cool facts about Albuquerque as well.

Here's one I didn't see listed,
The GD played the civic auditorium there on November 17, 1971.
A recording of that show would be released as part of the Dave's Picks series in 2018 with bonus material from December 14, 1971. Lucky subscriber's to the Dave's Picks series received a bonus disc with more music from December 14, 1971 and if you put the bonus material together it represents the full show minus Ramble On Rose which opened Set 2.

Well how about that?!?!

Maybe 1971 is in the air like a giant balloon.
Or maybe it's just the Celestial Season happening as Saturn & Jupiter line up.

Just thought I'd share :)

VGuy72 - You guessed my clue!

Feel free to request a calendar from Dead.net
But they'll say.. what are you talking about!?!?!

Not sure if it's the official pick but it looked good to me and it sounds good too. So I'd say it's worth visiting.

BTW - Love the fam avatar!

EDIT: If you do check it out listen for the "Satisfaction" riff after Run Run Rudolph. A 1971 Satisfaction would've been so TIGHT!

Jimi - Not much ’88 has happened here.
1988-07-17 - On 7/1/20 you mentioned the ’88 Greeks and I think we listened to this show. But there was also an '85 show happening. Cool KPFA broadcast gives the full meal deal on this one.
1988-03-27 - On 6/30/20

(However, you may never see this cause I'm editing my old post. So.. we'll learn something here :)

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It was so cold in New Mexico this morning it was even chili in Hatch.

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Would love to see some variety Jim, I have been trying.

What are you thinking?

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I was thinking another of the 88 Greeks??

Hey.. weren't we just talking about Horns tour? I think Oroborous pulled some strings and got us Dave's Picks 38. I have to say, I liked the next night more, but perhaps Latvala knew better.

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Yeah, I told DL that you all were interested in that tour and he said.. No Problem!

Psyche, never happened, but pretty stoked to get some September '73 this year.

Now... what's next?!?!? :)

I'm a Fiend!

I couldn't resist the call of the '71 today, I know there's been a big early '70s deluge recently. And... I could do that pretty much everyday until I couldn't.

However, yeah switch it up.
I love 12/14/90 Dark Star!
Or '88 is great.

And 12/14/71 is worth a listen if not today then soon.

Alright, good stuff.
Happy Announcement day.
I was looking forward to hearing what's next and hot dog it's from the early '70s :)
Get the subscription people!

Sure, always welcome. Let us know which show for tomorrow.

#38, back to 73. Sounds great. Another banner year shaping up for 2021. I had the year, but not the month or the show. Kezar will have to wait.

And now we can move on to the 2021 box set. So many possibilities.....

Stay well folks.

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That second set is stunning.. thanks for the pick.

Didn't we do one of the 88 Greeks already? I think yes, but not sure. The first is probably my favorite, which makes me think we already did it. How about the last, 7/17/88. If we did this one, then lets do the first.

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Jimi - Not much ’88 has happened here.
You mentioned the ’88 Greeks on 7/1/20 and I think we listened to this show. But there was also an '85 show happening that day.

Cool KPFA broadcast gives the full meal deal on this one.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qYmsTfhDMZc What a show, Garcia's first show back was a very special night. He looked like he was having so much fun . When he sang " I will survive" during Touch of Grey, I thought the roof of the Oakland Coliseum would blow right off, very emotional moment. During Candyman, when he sang " hand me my old guitar", the place just explodes. A very special night for sure, I'm glad I was there. A birthday I'll never forget.

I remember the word coming back from those shows, the Candyman was back in town.

I bet being there that night was a highlight.

Happy Birthday!

Listen to the roar, that's the stuff.

Thanks for sharing that, first tune of the day :)

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I will get this show going soon.

Summer 1988 was a hot time for us in MN and WI. Seems like a 100 years ago.

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GOGD, thanks for the birthday wishes. Jim, I didn't go to the 88 Greek shows they were all on KPFA, so I stayed home and taped all of them, along with bbq. and beer drinking, the Dead shows made for 3 days of great times.

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and a very happy birthday. Have an Imperial Stout on me.

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.....nice setlist.
Music Never Stopped->
Sugaree
Little Red Rooster
Loser
Memphis Blues
Far From Me
Bird Song
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China Cat Sunflower->
I Know You Rider
LL Rain
Terrapin Station->
Drumz->
Space->
I Will Take You Home->
The Other One->
Stella Blue->
Around & Around->
One More Saturday Night
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Knockin' On Heaven's Door
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Stumbled across this btw. https://fansignstime.com/grateful-dead-skull-neon-like-led-sign?93=17&1…

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Not sure where to post this .... but I mistakenly ordered two subscriptions this year, and rather than put them on eBay and make a profit, my Holiday cheer good Karma mood is causing me to list the pair, still sealed ( 2122 and 6407/22000 respectively) at cost plus shipping. So depending where you are figure about 65-70 bucks for the pair. PM me your interest. My only request (which will be honor system only of course) is that you don't flip them on eBay.
Mark. PM me if interested and I can likely still get to you to get under the tree

I caught the 87 Greeks (a personal high), the tapes are not noteworthy but the shows were great. I had wonderful tapes of the 88 Greeks I scored pretty much after the dust settled. Once Dicks Picks became thing in I think '93, I still had this legacy killer Alpine system in my truck with no back seat and the acoustics were pretty damned good.. it rocked and it was a cassette only vehicle so I still listened to cassettes for a while. ..really until I discovered Archive.org at about the same time as my alpine system got stolen for the very last time and I bought a new truck with a CD player. So that's my history with this run. I had every set on cassette and have fond memories but no recent listens.

Plus it's not an anniversary show so there's that. The middle night was my least favorite, but much loved nonetheless. The Memphis Blues is on Postcards of the Hanging and I have this suspicion it might have been recorded multi-track.

anyway.. back to regularly scheduled drums/space and anniversary shows. I would like to see this whole run get released, each of the three shows is noteworthy in my humble opinion.

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Billy the kid-Happy birthday for yesterday-I seem to have missed that one. You are three months ahead of me.

December always puts me in mind of 1971-some great shows in that month. Some released, some unreleased some in between. I am half way through 12/5-great lone outing for "I Washed My Hands" . Quite topical, now I come to think of it.

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VGuy - That's too funny. I started listening to that this morning.

Good stuff!

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Ha ha! I too fired this one up. Wow its like that cosmic mind experiment from the Capital Theater '71.

I put down some thoughts in the 2021 subscriptions thread about the 9-7 partial release too.

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....perhaps i should stop at a casino on the way home from work and throw a twenty in a Megabucks machine.

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I listened to 12/15/72 Long Beach last night. Awesome. Upon further research I read that the 12/11/72 Winterland show took place at the same time and date as the first of three EVAs (moon walks) of Apollo 17 astronauts that started at 4:54 p.m. P.S.T. and lasted 7 hours, 53 minutes and 11 seconds. So the complete Winterland show happened while the two last humans to walk on the moon did their work. Maybe that’s why they played Dark Star that night. Dark Star was also played on 12/15/72 in Long Beach while Apollo 17 was returning from the moon.
Possible recommendation for December 23, 12/23/70 Winterland.
If I had a 50 for all the 50th anniversaries I’ve been observing in recent years I’d have shoe box full of Ben Franklin’s.
Saturn and Jupiter are looking amazing. Last evening they lined up with the new crescent moon.

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Cool, I will check it out. Thanks.

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1. According to a few comments on this show's archive page this was the first show Jerry was playing the wolf.
2. First ever Let it Grow?
3. Check out Bobby's flanger pedal work on HCS

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I’ll have to check out 9/7/73. I only saw the Dead at Nassau one run, two nights in a row in March 73, right after Pigpen died.
After theaters and Veneta , Nassau was kinda like being in a full Nelson.

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Morning

Alright, so after listening to most of 9/7 yesterday and based on what we've been told by DL, here's my thoughts on what we're getting and why.
Lay it on me...

Bird Song & Playing In The Band as Bonus Material on DaP V38 per DL

Bonus Disc - Almost 80 minutes - (Might look like this)
Here Comes Sunshine
Let It Grow >
Stella
Truckin' >
Drums >
The Other One Jam >
Eyes >
Sugar Magnolia

That's close to 77 minutes of good stuff.
There's a reel flip in Truckin', about a 2 plus minute patch, they'll probably use the Jerry Moore Audience for. It appears to be on Master Reel. Taper's Section has it as well as circulating SBD.

My assumption on why this show doesn't get the full meal deal treatment is possibly due to the number of clipped beginnings to songs on the master reel. El Paso, LLR, Loser all have clipped beginnings.
So yeah, that's what I think will happen with that.

We're getting the Meat & Potatoes here folks! And it's the first show featuring Jerry playing Wolf.

Far Out, I'm stoked.

If we get the HCS from 9/7 the release with the Bonus will contain 6 of the 7 songs released on WOTF on the first two shows after the albums completion.

Good stuff for sure. Thanks DL & Team!

Now.. what's happening at 9am PST today with Dave & Gary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmMjY6tXaEo&feature=youtu.be

Could it be more WOTF news? Exciting :)

....picked Rich Stadium 6.6.92 randomly. I've never heard it. Just gotta poke around.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1992/06/06
Touch Of Grey ->
Greatest Story Ever Told
Althea
All Over Now
Friend Of The Devil
Masterpiece
Ramble On Rose
Let It Grow
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Aiko Aiko ->
Estimated Prophet
Same Thing ->
He's Gone ->
Drumz ->
Space ->
The Other One ->
The Wheel ->
Throwing Stones ->
One More Sat Night
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Baba O'Reilly->
Tomorrow Never Knows

We're on the same wavelength again... I was just checking out 12/17/92, man that show is good!

I heard an interesting interview with Vince from 6/19/92 yesterday and it made me want to check out summer '92.

Nice!

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....I love the set list GOGD.

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We didn’t get a new release announcement.
Better luck next time.....

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What was it? Just the Merry Christmas stream?

Edit: Oh and the Ripple Video. Agree with the others.. meh. How about a one disc wonder stocking stuffer from an incomplete show half of the master reels sunk in the Titanic. Now that would be worthy of reeving up the Shakedown Stream engine...

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I have been in and out around these parts since school started up. This virtual teaching stuff is WAY more work than I thought it would be, and much more work than regular teaching. What might take me 20 minutes to prepare for the classroom is taking me an hour, what usually would take me an hour can take me up to three - and let's not even get into trying to tackle grading student essays...

Anyway, I am not sure if this is ground that has been covered, but I would like to suggest 12/16/78 Nashville for today. I am usually not a big fan of 78, but I will keep on trying, as I know there are some killer shows (or parts of shows) to be had. Anyway, this one was suggested to me, so I thought I'd give it whirl! Opens with a nice long Sugaree that sounds damn good to these ears. Here is a link to a Miller AUD that sounds pretty nice. I believe this is the best sounding copy available, and after a brief touch of warble in the very beginning, it really does settle down into a nice mix:

https://archive.org/details/gd1978-12-16.sonyecm250-no-dolby.walker-sco…

Also, I feel like I am in the minority here, but I really liked that Ripple video. I thought the animation was beautiful, and liked all the little Easter eggs hidden throughout.

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

Good to hear from you O and thanks for all your hard work with the kids! I mean it, I'm so impressed with teachers during this trying year and all the extra time and effort they have had to put in. So raising a glass to you my friend! (coffee cup, but same sentiment).

I'll check out the 12/17/78 show again, it's got a From The Heart Of Me ;)
It looks like there's a SBD with Aud patches as well as an Audience recording by the one and only Joani Walker (thanks Joani for all the tapes!!!!). And there's a post radio show interview with Joani & ACE Bob Weir.

But first.. I've got a date with a Dark Star from 12/18/73. Still on the road with Bob T in the 1973 time machine. 2 more shows to go and they could be legendary in the future!

Good Stuff.

PS EDIT - VGUY what'd you think of 6/6/92? Dug the first set. Best Take a Step Back in the 1990s? Also enjoyed weird Spanish Jam & TOO blender bender. I kinda fell asleep during set 2 (not knocking it, i just took a nap) so I might have to listen to it again, but yeah. Interesting time Summer '92. I'd just heard an interview with David Lemieux talking about the stage chemistry he witnessed on Spring '92 tour and that he wasn't surprised when Bruce split. Add the Vince interview from 6/19/92 and it gives an interesting view into the band at this stage of the game. Fascinating. BTW Dark Star out of Space on 6/8/92 is worth visiting!

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Thanks for the kind words!

Just for clarification, I am listening to 12/16/78 Nashville - 12/17 is Fox Theater - though they both have "From the Heart of Me." The Bobby interview is at the end of the Fox theater show too. This Nashville show is nice! It seems I prefer fall/winter 78 to winter/spring 78...

After this, I might just join you and Bob for a little palaver in Tampa 73 :)

Peace

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Good to hear from you Otis. Yes, this year has been a huge challenge for sure. My 11 year old daughter in middle school is having the virtual learning blues. Not too much fun looking at your Chromebook all day in Google Meets. Just hoping to survive this crap and see better days on the other side.

Anyway, thanks for the 78 pick. I will check it out. Last weekend I pulled out From Egypt with Love. There is some really good music on that release from October 78 at Winterland. And the bonus disc with If I had the world to give, is really good, love this version.

Stay well out there.

Haven't heard from Bob t for a while? And of course Bolo.

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Roger 12/16/78 not 12/17. Funny I mixed up the dates of 12/17/92 & 12/16/92 yesterday. I meant to say 12/16/92 is really good, but said 12/17.

Trippy!

Good stuff.

BTW - 12/18/73 is sounding good. Check out that GSET! Some epic Phil Bombs.
Getting ready for some WRS > Dark Star > Eyes this afternoon.
Might have to wait until 4:20ish
Happy Friday All!