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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • daverock
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    Change in sound change in life

    Change of personnel was also a factor in the change of the bands sound. Mickey joining in late 67 meant that the sound of 1968 started a few months early. And so on and so forth as people emerged, disappeared..and in Mickey's case came back again. I can't honestly remember now what they sound like, but I would think Keith's last few shows in early 1979 were more like 1978 shows than what are normally thought of as 1979 shows when Brent came on board.

    It is a convenient device, though, splitting lives up into years. But it can be a bit artificial. People get born and die at different junctures - we meet and part at random times.

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    The great task in life is to find reality……

    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Hallandale, Florida December 29, 1968

    Without art, the crudeness of reality would make the world unbearable…….

    High art? Low art? Grateful Dead art!!!

    The Dead played numerous festivals in the late 60s, this being one of the earliest big East coast ones. Due to the constraints of time and circumstance, the Dead’s “festival sets” from this era sometimes have a shortened, condensed feel. The “all wheat, no chafe” approach, which usually worked well and was well received…………

    Here, the band starts out greasy, then shifts into a big jam sequence that carries through to the end of the set. Things are truly focally shortened, but there’s some decent jamming to be had. Very good recordings of this set circulate, and while there are some edits and drop-outs, it is still worthy of your consideration…………..

    There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other……

    Rock on!!!

    Doc
    Few people have the imagination for reality…….

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    Years and How They Sound

    It's convenient to divide the GD by year for a couple of related reasons. They often took January and February off to write and record. While they were busy doing this, the alchemists and wizards were often testing out new equipment which was all rolled out and broken in on the Spring Tour each year.

    So it's convenient to break things out by year, but that's not what drove change, it was the new toys and new music. Wolf. Late '77 was the return of the Wolf, and it sounded magnificent.

    That's my take. We say years mainly because they retooled the first couple months most years, that is until the 80's and as they played larger arenas and demons settled in.. they practiced and recorded less and instrument changes were less frequent / less dramatic.

    Man I really liked the Wolf.

    Oh, and OB - Streaming last nights show as I write this, that is until I fall asleep (won't be long). Cumberland out of the gate was great.. I think the they could use a lead guitar with more thunder. They have two wide body clean guitars at work, they need to add a little Hendrix or wolf and turn it up. Twangy and clean tones, they need something that will part the red sea so they can get on with it. That's my take. Still enjoyable. Time will tell.

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    It often seems to me that 1977 shows from September onwards sound more like 1978 shows than they do 1977shows from earlier in the year. A bit more rocking - more rough and ready and less smooth. Jerry switched guitars in September 1977 to the Wolf, and that one seems to me to have a more overdriven sound than the guitar he used in 1976 and the first half of 1977. And this was the guitar he played on through 1978 too, I think.

    Maybe it's a bit arbitrary, splitting the bands music up into years. I would have thought they carried on regardless of what month or year it was. Thinking of it personally, I can't imagine I will feel any different, or do anything differently next week, just because we will be in a different year to the one we are in this week.

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    From over on the 44 thread. 11-5-77 DiP 34
    Where everyone else is doing anniversaries 12-28-79, 80, etc.
    of some memorable runs.
    His point well taken that this is damn good.
    And hopefully a telling warm-up for DaP45.
    It is just exactly damn good. The Big River smokes!
    Cheers
    Is it my imagination or does '77 seem to get better the closer it gets to '78?

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    Howdy Folks!

    Hope everyone is having a enjoyable holidaze!

    Not much Dead for me lately, but I usually take some time off this time of year.
    Didn’t do the 78 as that’s one of the other three Dicks I don’t have yet so I’ve purposely never heard it as I’m saving my virgin listen for Realgone at least to reissue “official” version.
    Down to 3: #13 I have copies, 10 I finally heard here on POTD recently, but the 78 I’m saving!

    Hopefully I’ll start easing back in next couple days…

    Watched Phil last night, sorta…dozed off and missed Cassidy and part of Eyes, and had net drops a lot, especially near the end so…hopefully tonight that will be better?
    Maybe it was just me but I didn’t think they were on last night?
    Not bad, certainly seeing Phil at this point is always cool and enjoyable, but I feel like it was not quite at the superb level of the Colorado shows I watched last year?
    Phil still brings it, but I actually noticed some misses etc that you don’t usually hear with Phil.
    Guessing their just a little rusty and he is getting up there so going off how my fingers are, imagine age might be finally factoring in? Hopefully tonight they’ll be more settled.
    Again, we’ll worth the hassles to see the big guy again.
    Remembering a sweet Mission encore and a Rock Steady, both firsts for me, so cool their still mixing things up!

    Go VIKS, hopefully they can outlast/outrun the damn Cowgirls.
    Philly who knows, they sure look good on paper…
    Bills have a tough road ahead with Bungals and Patsies again, while the Chefs play no one, again…funny how the Chefs and Bucs get such easy schedules when they both were in the playoffs?

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    Sometimes Spring '90 does hit the spot, the Nassau and Knickerbocker runs have some really good stuff going on. I took a deep dive into Deer Creek a couple weeks ago, call it a Spring encore. High productivity music when I am in the getting shit done mindset.

    I'm with you DVikes.

    Been hit or miss with me the last week or so, happy to be a follower from time to time. No complaints with the picks. Travelling, busy, you know.... I'm calling today a catch up day and hopefully tomorrow I can pencil in some time.

    I also just pulled out my credit card and purchased last night and tonight's Phil run at the Warfield. VGuy sent me the Cumberland. Holy shit.. it's cookin' Lot a poor man got those Cumberland Blues.....
    With Holly sitting in on keys.

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    Hey 1stShow, another last second win. Two games to go.

    I was In the mood for a little Spring 1990 today, so I pulled up 3/30 at Nassau. I know we did this one not too long ago, but it is hard to tire of these shows.

    Be well out there.

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    Viks Win!

    With last second 61 yd. FG no less.
    I'm starting to believe.
    Wassail for all!
    Cheers

    Edit: (a day later) Whereas my team, lovingly referred to as the Donkeys, leads the league in at least one category; Penalties!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Did you know that the city of Albuquerque, NM hosts the world's largest gathering of hot-air balloons, every October at a venue referred to as Balloon Fiesta Park?

Far out huh?

From the looks of wikipedia, there's tons of other cool facts about Albuquerque as well.

Here's one I didn't see listed,
The GD played the civic auditorium there on November 17, 1971.
A recording of that show would be released as part of the Dave's Picks series in 2018 with bonus material from December 14, 1971. Lucky subscriber's to the Dave's Picks series received a bonus disc with more music from December 14, 1971 and if you put the bonus material together it represents the full show minus Ramble On Rose which opened Set 2.

Well how about that?!?!

Maybe 1971 is in the air like a giant balloon.
Or maybe it's just the Celestial Season happening as Saturn & Jupiter line up.

Just thought I'd share :)

VGuy72 - You guessed my clue!

Feel free to request a calendar from Dead.net
But they'll say.. what are you talking about!?!?!

Not sure if it's the official pick but it looked good to me and it sounds good too. So I'd say it's worth visiting.

BTW - Love the fam avatar!

EDIT: If you do check it out listen for the "Satisfaction" riff after Run Run Rudolph. A 1971 Satisfaction would've been so TIGHT!

Jimi - Not much ’88 has happened here.
1988-07-17 - On 7/1/20 you mentioned the ’88 Greeks and I think we listened to this show. But there was also an '85 show happening. Cool KPFA broadcast gives the full meal deal on this one.
1988-03-27 - On 6/30/20

(However, you may never see this cause I'm editing my old post. So.. we'll learn something here :)

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It was so cold in New Mexico this morning it was even chili in Hatch.

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Would love to see some variety Jim, I have been trying.

What are you thinking?

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I was thinking another of the 88 Greeks??

Hey.. weren't we just talking about Horns tour? I think Oroborous pulled some strings and got us Dave's Picks 38. I have to say, I liked the next night more, but perhaps Latvala knew better.

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Yeah, I told DL that you all were interested in that tour and he said.. No Problem!

Psyche, never happened, but pretty stoked to get some September '73 this year.

Now... what's next?!?!? :)

I'm a Fiend!

I couldn't resist the call of the '71 today, I know there's been a big early '70s deluge recently. And... I could do that pretty much everyday until I couldn't.

However, yeah switch it up.
I love 12/14/90 Dark Star!
Or '88 is great.

And 12/14/71 is worth a listen if not today then soon.

Alright, good stuff.
Happy Announcement day.
I was looking forward to hearing what's next and hot dog it's from the early '70s :)
Get the subscription people!

Sure, always welcome. Let us know which show for tomorrow.

#38, back to 73. Sounds great. Another banner year shaping up for 2021. I had the year, but not the month or the show. Kezar will have to wait.

And now we can move on to the 2021 box set. So many possibilities.....

Stay well folks.

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That second set is stunning.. thanks for the pick.

Didn't we do one of the 88 Greeks already? I think yes, but not sure. The first is probably my favorite, which makes me think we already did it. How about the last, 7/17/88. If we did this one, then lets do the first.

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Jimi - Not much ’88 has happened here.
You mentioned the ’88 Greeks on 7/1/20 and I think we listened to this show. But there was also an '85 show happening that day.

Cool KPFA broadcast gives the full meal deal on this one.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qYmsTfhDMZc What a show, Garcia's first show back was a very special night. He looked like he was having so much fun . When he sang " I will survive" during Touch of Grey, I thought the roof of the Oakland Coliseum would blow right off, very emotional moment. During Candyman, when he sang " hand me my old guitar", the place just explodes. A very special night for sure, I'm glad I was there. A birthday I'll never forget.

I remember the word coming back from those shows, the Candyman was back in town.

I bet being there that night was a highlight.

Happy Birthday!

Listen to the roar, that's the stuff.

Thanks for sharing that, first tune of the day :)

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I will get this show going soon.

Summer 1988 was a hot time for us in MN and WI. Seems like a 100 years ago.

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GOGD, thanks for the birthday wishes. Jim, I didn't go to the 88 Greek shows they were all on KPFA, so I stayed home and taped all of them, along with bbq. and beer drinking, the Dead shows made for 3 days of great times.

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and a very happy birthday. Have an Imperial Stout on me.

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.....nice setlist.
Music Never Stopped->
Sugaree
Little Red Rooster
Loser
Memphis Blues
Far From Me
Bird Song
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China Cat Sunflower->
I Know You Rider
LL Rain
Terrapin Station->
Drumz->
Space->
I Will Take You Home->
The Other One->
Stella Blue->
Around & Around->
One More Saturday Night
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Knockin' On Heaven's Door
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Stumbled across this btw. https://fansignstime.com/grateful-dead-skull-neon-like-led-sign?93=17&1…

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Not sure where to post this .... but I mistakenly ordered two subscriptions this year, and rather than put them on eBay and make a profit, my Holiday cheer good Karma mood is causing me to list the pair, still sealed ( 2122 and 6407/22000 respectively) at cost plus shipping. So depending where you are figure about 65-70 bucks for the pair. PM me your interest. My only request (which will be honor system only of course) is that you don't flip them on eBay.
Mark. PM me if interested and I can likely still get to you to get under the tree

I caught the 87 Greeks (a personal high), the tapes are not noteworthy but the shows were great. I had wonderful tapes of the 88 Greeks I scored pretty much after the dust settled. Once Dicks Picks became thing in I think '93, I still had this legacy killer Alpine system in my truck with no back seat and the acoustics were pretty damned good.. it rocked and it was a cassette only vehicle so I still listened to cassettes for a while. ..really until I discovered Archive.org at about the same time as my alpine system got stolen for the very last time and I bought a new truck with a CD player. So that's my history with this run. I had every set on cassette and have fond memories but no recent listens.

Plus it's not an anniversary show so there's that. The middle night was my least favorite, but much loved nonetheless. The Memphis Blues is on Postcards of the Hanging and I have this suspicion it might have been recorded multi-track.

anyway.. back to regularly scheduled drums/space and anniversary shows. I would like to see this whole run get released, each of the three shows is noteworthy in my humble opinion.

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Billy the kid-Happy birthday for yesterday-I seem to have missed that one. You are three months ahead of me.

December always puts me in mind of 1971-some great shows in that month. Some released, some unreleased some in between. I am half way through 12/5-great lone outing for "I Washed My Hands" . Quite topical, now I come to think of it.

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VGuy - That's too funny. I started listening to that this morning.

Good stuff!

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Ha ha! I too fired this one up. Wow its like that cosmic mind experiment from the Capital Theater '71.

I put down some thoughts in the 2021 subscriptions thread about the 9-7 partial release too.

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....perhaps i should stop at a casino on the way home from work and throw a twenty in a Megabucks machine.

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I listened to 12/15/72 Long Beach last night. Awesome. Upon further research I read that the 12/11/72 Winterland show took place at the same time and date as the first of three EVAs (moon walks) of Apollo 17 astronauts that started at 4:54 p.m. P.S.T. and lasted 7 hours, 53 minutes and 11 seconds. So the complete Winterland show happened while the two last humans to walk on the moon did their work. Maybe that’s why they played Dark Star that night. Dark Star was also played on 12/15/72 in Long Beach while Apollo 17 was returning from the moon.
Possible recommendation for December 23, 12/23/70 Winterland.
If I had a 50 for all the 50th anniversaries I’ve been observing in recent years I’d have shoe box full of Ben Franklin’s.
Saturn and Jupiter are looking amazing. Last evening they lined up with the new crescent moon.

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Cool, I will check it out. Thanks.

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1. According to a few comments on this show's archive page this was the first show Jerry was playing the wolf.
2. First ever Let it Grow?
3. Check out Bobby's flanger pedal work on HCS

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I’ll have to check out 9/7/73. I only saw the Dead at Nassau one run, two nights in a row in March 73, right after Pigpen died.
After theaters and Veneta , Nassau was kinda like being in a full Nelson.

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Morning

Alright, so after listening to most of 9/7 yesterday and based on what we've been told by DL, here's my thoughts on what we're getting and why.
Lay it on me...

Bird Song & Playing In The Band as Bonus Material on DaP V38 per DL

Bonus Disc - Almost 80 minutes - (Might look like this)
Here Comes Sunshine
Let It Grow >
Stella
Truckin' >
Drums >
The Other One Jam >
Eyes >
Sugar Magnolia

That's close to 77 minutes of good stuff.
There's a reel flip in Truckin', about a 2 plus minute patch, they'll probably use the Jerry Moore Audience for. It appears to be on Master Reel. Taper's Section has it as well as circulating SBD.

My assumption on why this show doesn't get the full meal deal treatment is possibly due to the number of clipped beginnings to songs on the master reel. El Paso, LLR, Loser all have clipped beginnings.
So yeah, that's what I think will happen with that.

We're getting the Meat & Potatoes here folks! And it's the first show featuring Jerry playing Wolf.

Far Out, I'm stoked.

If we get the HCS from 9/7 the release with the Bonus will contain 6 of the 7 songs released on WOTF on the first two shows after the albums completion.

Good stuff for sure. Thanks DL & Team!

Now.. what's happening at 9am PST today with Dave & Gary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmMjY6tXaEo&feature=youtu.be

Could it be more WOTF news? Exciting :)

....picked Rich Stadium 6.6.92 randomly. I've never heard it. Just gotta poke around.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1992/06/06
Touch Of Grey ->
Greatest Story Ever Told
Althea
All Over Now
Friend Of The Devil
Masterpiece
Ramble On Rose
Let It Grow
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Aiko Aiko ->
Estimated Prophet
Same Thing ->
He's Gone ->
Drumz ->
Space ->
The Other One ->
The Wheel ->
Throwing Stones ->
One More Sat Night
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Baba O'Reilly->
Tomorrow Never Knows

We're on the same wavelength again... I was just checking out 12/17/92, man that show is good!

I heard an interesting interview with Vince from 6/19/92 yesterday and it made me want to check out summer '92.

Nice!

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....I love the set list GOGD.

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We didn’t get a new release announcement.
Better luck next time.....

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What was it? Just the Merry Christmas stream?

Edit: Oh and the Ripple Video. Agree with the others.. meh. How about a one disc wonder stocking stuffer from an incomplete show half of the master reels sunk in the Titanic. Now that would be worthy of reeving up the Shakedown Stream engine...

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I have been in and out around these parts since school started up. This virtual teaching stuff is WAY more work than I thought it would be, and much more work than regular teaching. What might take me 20 minutes to prepare for the classroom is taking me an hour, what usually would take me an hour can take me up to three - and let's not even get into trying to tackle grading student essays...

Anyway, I am not sure if this is ground that has been covered, but I would like to suggest 12/16/78 Nashville for today. I am usually not a big fan of 78, but I will keep on trying, as I know there are some killer shows (or parts of shows) to be had. Anyway, this one was suggested to me, so I thought I'd give it whirl! Opens with a nice long Sugaree that sounds damn good to these ears. Here is a link to a Miller AUD that sounds pretty nice. I believe this is the best sounding copy available, and after a brief touch of warble in the very beginning, it really does settle down into a nice mix:

https://archive.org/details/gd1978-12-16.sonyecm250-no-dolby.walker-sco…

Also, I feel like I am in the minority here, but I really liked that Ripple video. I thought the animation was beautiful, and liked all the little Easter eggs hidden throughout.

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

Good to hear from you O and thanks for all your hard work with the kids! I mean it, I'm so impressed with teachers during this trying year and all the extra time and effort they have had to put in. So raising a glass to you my friend! (coffee cup, but same sentiment).

I'll check out the 12/17/78 show again, it's got a From The Heart Of Me ;)
It looks like there's a SBD with Aud patches as well as an Audience recording by the one and only Joani Walker (thanks Joani for all the tapes!!!!). And there's a post radio show interview with Joani & ACE Bob Weir.

But first.. I've got a date with a Dark Star from 12/18/73. Still on the road with Bob T in the 1973 time machine. 2 more shows to go and they could be legendary in the future!

Good Stuff.

PS EDIT - VGUY what'd you think of 6/6/92? Dug the first set. Best Take a Step Back in the 1990s? Also enjoyed weird Spanish Jam & TOO blender bender. I kinda fell asleep during set 2 (not knocking it, i just took a nap) so I might have to listen to it again, but yeah. Interesting time Summer '92. I'd just heard an interview with David Lemieux talking about the stage chemistry he witnessed on Spring '92 tour and that he wasn't surprised when Bruce split. Add the Vince interview from 6/19/92 and it gives an interesting view into the band at this stage of the game. Fascinating. BTW Dark Star out of Space on 6/8/92 is worth visiting!

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Thanks for the kind words!

Just for clarification, I am listening to 12/16/78 Nashville - 12/17 is Fox Theater - though they both have "From the Heart of Me." The Bobby interview is at the end of the Fox theater show too. This Nashville show is nice! It seems I prefer fall/winter 78 to winter/spring 78...

After this, I might just join you and Bob for a little palaver in Tampa 73 :)

Peace

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Good to hear from you Otis. Yes, this year has been a huge challenge for sure. My 11 year old daughter in middle school is having the virtual learning blues. Not too much fun looking at your Chromebook all day in Google Meets. Just hoping to survive this crap and see better days on the other side.

Anyway, thanks for the 78 pick. I will check it out. Last weekend I pulled out From Egypt with Love. There is some really good music on that release from October 78 at Winterland. And the bonus disc with If I had the world to give, is really good, love this version.

Stay well out there.

Haven't heard from Bob t for a while? And of course Bolo.

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Roger 12/16/78 not 12/17. Funny I mixed up the dates of 12/17/92 & 12/16/92 yesterday. I meant to say 12/16/92 is really good, but said 12/17.

Trippy!

Good stuff.

BTW - 12/18/73 is sounding good. Check out that GSET! Some epic Phil Bombs.
Getting ready for some WRS > Dark Star > Eyes this afternoon.
Might have to wait until 4:20ish
Happy Friday All!