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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • #801
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    I Subscribed, I expect I will for the foreseeable future

    Not blind loyalty, I really like the music. Even the 'lesser' shows get occasional, usually pleasant relistens, there's usually a nugget or thee of truth in there somewhere. My advice, pony up for the early bird pricing and let the chips fall where they may. Easy breezy.

    We all should feel free to express our opinions, all views are welcome. It would make for a more enjoyable read if we can find a way to get our point across without slashing and burning the entire forest. It stinks in here.., or as my French teacher Mrs. Feldman used to say, "c'est odeur affreuse"

    Their business model is their business, our choice is to buy or not.. I don't think there is much we can write in these forums that will influence their short or long term decision making. Sales and purchase behavior are what they pay attention to. In almost all cases the music is already out there for free, ready to be enjoyed without much effort at all so you rarely have to buy physical product to listen and enjoy. I fully support their efforts to clean up, preserve and restore the now mostly ancient recordings and make them as good as they can be. These mastered recordings are part of an important historical record. The Band and Rhino have a responsibility to clean them up and preserve them to the best extent they can. This likely means the next ten releases will not be the next ten you want released, more like the ten that best fit this purpose.., in the end it will even out and those ten shows will get released. If that takes a cento out of my pocket each year, I'd call that a bargain.

    Where were we again..
    We are really due for a '69, fall '72 or a fall/summer '73. These are prime candidates for the second release slot of the year and offer bonus disc potential. In another month or so we will get news on #38. My guess is it's going to be a smoker.

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    Snafu

    I would hope no one would send you hate mail for expressing an opinion. Your truth isn't my truth, but that's no cause for concern.

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    What's a circle jerk antifa?

    Well for those that need an explanation.... while antifa is certainly not a joke in my usage that's what I used it as. Circle jerk, yea I can see why the couple of dozen it refers would claim ignorance. As far as being harsh, not nice etc. Huh? The circle I was referring to were the same people who abuse and accuse the people who give us so much pleasure of heinous corrupt actions including the following making money, designing a business plan that allows us to enjoy so much etc.
    Dreading I'm sorry if you took any flak for stating the econ 101 basics. But me well someone needs to speak the truth clearly. Now you haters can start the obscene pms

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    Happy Life Day!

    For those that may know its Life Day today...
    I am going to go for the Jammy Trinity of 11/17/71, 11/17/72, and 11/17/73. I may cap it off with both of the 11/17/78 affairs. Finally 11/17 happens in 1985, so I may add that to the mix as I do have that 85 affliction. It may take me a few days to get through it all but its worth it.

    Also has anyone listened to the 30 Day of Dead selection for today? Its got a bommin' Shakedown.

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    Nice to see the era- wars…

    Nice to see the era- wars have calmed... Onto the business model! Love you all, miss the banter... It's all about the music, right?

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    Once upon a time...

    Once upon a time I went to a concert. I don't remember the band but they were really good. I bought a ticket and --check this crazy shit out -- I didn't even know what songs they were going to play ahead of time. Trippy, right? So then I went to the venue and they turned down the lights and the band came out and they had their instruments and everything and the crowd started yelling and then it was like, wait, wait, what song are they playing? We don't even know yet! And then they played a song and then when they finished that one they started playing another one and they didn't even announce what all the others were going to be even then. They just started playing it. You'd probably recognize which song I mean, it's the one with the guitar solo.

    So anyway... the whole concert was like that, it was like, here's another song now. And they didn't announce a single one beforehand. Try wrapping your head around that! My mind was seriously blown. But the thing is... it was kind of fun, you know? I mean, I liked the band, pretty much, so even if every single song wasn't their best one, there was still a pretty good chance that I would dig it, or a part of it at least.

    That was the only concert I went to that was all crazy and backwards like that. All the others were normal -- you know, like when I went to buy the ticket, they provided a set list, in order, of all the songs they would play, before I handed over the money. So, I knew exactly what I would be getting, which is obviously way better and way more fun, because it sucks all the spontaneity and surprise out of the experience of hearing music, which is after all the whole point. So I'm glad that most of the time, I had all my musical experiences curated for me beforehand, because it meant that I never had to listen to something unexpected. 'Cause man, I hate that.

    Hey, has anyone heard Green Lung? Great pagan-metal stoner rockers from the UK. Cheesy as hell and super fun.

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    Whining wins, readers lose...

    With all the unmitigated crap-ola on our plates today, some few have to turn this site into a bitch-fest about the subscription model? Seriously? It's been the model for years. Do we have to return to the most basic logic of adulthood? If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you like to take a chance on which shows will be released, then buy it. At ~$7 per disc for well-curated shows -- some hit, some miss -- it's not a big deal either way. Personally, I'm not totally stoked over DaPs 35, 36 and 37, but I'm supporting the vault release program and looking long term for more killer shows from my own sweet spots. But the whining here is the definition of buzz kill.

    Looking forward to GarciaLive 15, Jimi on Maui and a stack of Petty, Prine, Jennings, and Dylan. And the news on DaP 38, whatever it will be.

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    I remember when the Antifa Babies opened ...

    ... for the Circle Jerks at the Mabuhay. Great show, till the Babies’ singer bit his tongue off, somebody pulled the fire alarm, and all the sprinklers went off and ruined my toilet paper dog collar. But I digress.

    Let me see if I can figure out exactly what the complaint is here.

    After lengthy consideration, some proactive data mining cybermetrics, and a long talk with my cat, I have concluded the problem is that some people feel like Dave should announce ALL of the shows as soon as the “early bird” deal is announced so that could make a more informed decision. That’s not a totally unreasonable thing to ask, but I can think of a couple reasons why maybe the DP folks don’t do it that way.

    Maybe it’s not practical for them to plan that far ahead: auditioning tapes, reviewing sound quality, and everything else that goes into choosing a show for release takes time, and it’s not like they’ve got dozens of people working round the clock on this. Or maybe they just like being able to keep their options open as they listen to buyer feedback: like, say, if they get a lot of people saying they don’t like having so much audience noise in a given release, maybe they would reconsider plans for another one like it? You gotta remember: this is small operation, serving a niche market.

    I mean, they’re not just doing this to be dicks. And it’s not like they’re making a huge fortune off it. I would suspect that the profit from selling roughly 20k CD sets is probably just enough to employ a couple people to keep the series going. You’re enough of a fan to want the whole series sight unseen? You get the best deal. You want only to cherry pick only the shows you want? You pay a little more, but you still get what you want. You’re not interested in any of ‘em? You pay nothing. It all seems fair to me.

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    What's A "Circle Jerk Antifa Baby?"

    UNKLE SAM

    Is it a cousin conceived by an unusual form of artificial insemination?

    What I struggle to understand is how being called an anti-fascist became a term of abuse.

    I like the subscription model and I’m sure it’s good for the company as well since it means that they get a large amount of their money upfront so they know the releases are viable. If they had to wait to see how each disc sold then they would, I’m believe, put out fewer shows.

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    what's a "circle jerk antifa baby?"

    wow, those are some harsh comments coming from some here. it's ok, breath, take a step back, breath. On a funny note, did you hear the one about the women in DC last weekend, they were screaming something about antifa and one woman asked another "who is antifa?" the other answered "I don't know, but they sure don't like her." wonka wonka wonka. Some folks just can't turn the page.
    I don't have a problem with the subs, especially the early bird special. Great name, early bird special, the early bird gets the special limited edition one time only never to be seen again only you and 22,000 others will have it disc. Gotta love that. ;)
    There have been a few Dave's I haven't been real fond of, but I still love the Grateful Dead and anything that has Jerry going up and down the frets and Phil thumping and Bobby cheesing and Micky and Billy keeping the beat is just fine with me. Thank you for still releasing these shows, they have kept me sane for a little while longer although lately things seem to be getting a bit weird. I haven't left the house except for groceries and dope for 8 months so I too have gotten weirder. But it's ok, take a step back, breath ...

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 08:06

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Blurting out "Hell Fire!" to everything the wife sez -- there's the match that'll ignite the covid-dry tinder! But what a way to go! Living alone, I occasionally talk to myself, of course. Lately, after I make a comment, I blurt out "You don't say" in a bad faux British accent. Sometimes I accuse myself of being a "twat-head." Cracks me up. (Fearful of what's next!)

And here's to the poster whose wife pulled a bag of shrooms from the storage box. It's a sign! I had to stifle an impulse to rip apart the boxes in my basement... Not to worry, I know where the stash is, and as soon as this broken leg heals completely in about 5 more weeks, I'm strapping on the shrooms and the snowshoes and hitting Kenosha Pass for a little peace overlooking South Park (the real one).

Cheers to all. gonna livestream some NRPS and Pigpen songs tomorrow night because I can.

Here's to 2021 and the incoming 9-8-73. My seventh show to see full or partial release.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 12:45

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GTFO.

really?

Bummer. I read this as I listen to the GD perform Death Don't Have No Mercy at an Acid Test

I have Dark Star etc.

Not a fan of guest artists...David Crosby plays on Dark Star etc. Oh well. Not too bad.

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Submitted by Wolfnap on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 16:30

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 I'm new here. Don't know where else to ask this question. I've emailed customer service several times,with no answer. I want to subscribe to Dave's picks 2021. It includes free domestic shipping. But when I go to purchase it a $11.99 shipping charge is added. Does anyone know how to resolve this, or how to get a reply from customer service?

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Submitted by Wolfnap on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 16:41

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Ok, scrolling further back I see others have asked about this shipping issue also. It appears this is still an unresolved issue. Do I just pay the shipping and hope it's resolved later?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 17:22

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The subscription period will probably close soon.
Best to subscribe now and argue the shipping fee later.
Also, you missed the Early Bird pricing. Watch for that next year, no reason to pay full price.

Here’s the info from the 10/23 email.

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EARLY BIRD SUBS WILL END ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2020 AT 11:59PM PT.
DAVE'S PICKS SUBSCRIPTION BENEFITS
Four Limited Edition, Numbered Releases
Highly Collectible Bonus Disc
Free Domestic Shipping
Delivered Throughout The Year
Early Bird Pricing - $99.98
A savings of over $25.00 over purchasing a la carte

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 17:55

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Sub. Now. You
will not regret it.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 19:46

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I happened to have played Fire Up+ a few days ago. It had been years since my last listen.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 19:59

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That cd brings back lots of memories of youth.

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Submitted by Wolfnap on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 21:18

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Ok. Thanks all for the advice/info. I'll probably do the sub anyway.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 12/30/2020 - 23:26

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WOLFNAP

The other date to note is January 8th. This is when the subscription window closes. The closing date was mentioned in the email from earlier in December when they announced DaP #38.

Billy - I think this was one of the few you didn't see-but I wonder if this stands out as a great show, New Tears (or Years I typed tears by accident) or not. I always enjoy it as much as any Fall 72 show. The other New Years shows do have a feeling of "you had to be there" a bit, just going off the recordings.

My cd copy of New Years 1972 also includes the sets by The Sons of Champlin-which I have never played, and the NRPS, which I played yesterday. I am not an expert on them by any means, but I liked this. Quite a long set for a support band-the second one at that-too. Must have been a great night out all in.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 09:04

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I notice that the two links to the subscription from the home page are currently giving a 404 Page not found error. It is still accessible from the STORE/DAVE PICKS route. Perhaps they’re fixing the domestic shipping problem?

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Submitted by nitecat on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 11:15

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Today is my first show anniversary. I went to Winterland with my friend and his older brothers on 12/31/71 and had a great time. I got on the bus seriously after 2 shows at the Berkeley Community Theater in August 1972. After that, I attended every New Year's the band played: 72, 76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90, and the last GD New Year's performance, 1991. It became quite a tradition. As time went on, in the later 80's I shared these rituals with 20 good friends on the floor near the front. We snuck in champagne and I always had great anticipation for the NY countdown when the balloons would drop, the band would begin playing, I hugged my friends, kissed my girlfriend, and we all sipped champagne. Now on New Year's, I miss this great ritual.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 12:03

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1/29/1967

Wowie Zowie

Sound quality will keep some away, but woooow...that Grateful Dead energy is hot

I wish wish wish a whole lotta shows from 65-68 had high quality recordings

I truly love this band

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Submitted by carlo13 on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 17:20

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I'm sucking down some potato vodka dirty martinis. I know this is a 'who gives a shit' post but I cant find anything else to say. Happy new years in a few hours.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 17:40

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Carlo, I like your spirit..

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 18:03

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I’m just focusing on 16oz cans of Bell’s Bright White.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 18:05

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The dumpster fire will still be raging tomorrow morning/afternoon when we crawl out of bed.

But for now, it’s 12-31-78 Winterland.
Just finished Blues Brothers, now on to GOGD.

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Submitted by nitecat on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 18:20

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Champagne and Bob's stream, then 12/31/78 or 12/3187.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 12/31/2020 - 22:35

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Proves I am not the only derelict.

Sparkling Santa Rosa Pinot (rose) at midnight, a couple Imperial Stouts before.. a Dogs Head and a glass of scotch and 12/31/78 right now... for as long as I can stay awake.

And some legal weed, thanks to those above.

Happy New Year to all of you. A rainbow of fun in the middle of the shitstorm that was 2020. Many thanks for just being yourselves..

As you were.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Fri, 01/01/2021 - 02:25

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Yo! Rockers!!

Doc here,

Yes I have come out of hibernation, because it is the golden anniversary of that great great Grateful Dead year 1971. To honor, commemorate, and celebrate that year, I will be offering any and all 1971 recordings to any and all that are interested. No limits. You can ask now, you can ask on the anniversary of any shows, or you can ask at any time up to and including midnight on December 31, 2021. After that, only the Shadow knows………….

Friends, I understand that 1971 is not everybody’s cup of Grateful Dead kool-aid. Perhaps you know little about it, maybe want to dabble, merely poke around, or heaven forbid go all in. Let Doc be your guide. Haven’t led anybody astray for decades……

I will also be posting, on the show anniversaries, comments, recaps, and opinions on every 1971 show. That’s right, you have to put up with my rants, raves, and ramblings for an entire year!!! And, for any & all interested, the “1971 Project” is almost completed, and available upon request……

You know where to find me,

Doc
One may understand the cosmos, but never the ego; the self is more distant than any star……………

My only NYE show...last minute decision...flew early morning from LAX to Oakland...scored a miracle ticket thanks to the genorosity of a new met friend who bought two from a scalper and gifted me the second tix...I tried to pay him and he said no, enjoy...and I did...I had a ten foot square tarp in my bag o' tricks and used it to keep the drizzle and rain off of me while in line...it was gladly held up by folks on the edge while it was needed for a bit...never had a peyote brunch before but it seemed to work just fine...after the show waited for the BART to go back to the airport...the SF side was packed with all kinds of craziness going on...after awhile it was quiet and strange, finally the Airport BART arrived and I was at the airport after a quick walk from the BART station...People later told me I shoudn't have done that walk through a dicey part of town but I guess the road trip godz keep an eye out for fools...was backhome in LA by 10:00 AM or so...had the obligatory menudo my Sis had made and dozed off and on with Bowl games on TV...fuzzy day indeed...

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 01/01/2021 - 08:25

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Here's the thing: whatever fate bestowed upon that band -- Constanten gone, Mickey gone, Pig starting to get sick -- they played their music with gusto, no matter the band lineup.

Also, Nappyrags, if you get a chance, check out 12-26-81. Perhaps not much of a setlist on paper (though there IS a Candyman, Jer sings Big Boss Man and Phil leads an Eleven jam), but played with gusto. Marye said she attended. Like many heads "stuck" in the Rockies with no dough, I never did catch a hometown show, though I did get to a Phil & Friends show (my favorite lineup, the Quintet) at the Warfield at some point.

I too wish to be optimistic and the trend lines point toward a better year. But as the fly in the ointment, we've got a rough slog ahead for many moons. I'll weigh that weird measurement, "normalcy," when we're back rockin' together at live shows.

"We can share the women, we can share the wine"............

I've got a feeling twenty-one
Is going to be a good year
Especially if you and me
See it in together
So you think twenty-one
Is going to be a good year
It could be good for me and her
But you and her, no never
I had no reason
To be over optimistic
But somehow when you smiled
I can brave bad weather
What about the boy?
What about the boy?
What about the boy?
He saw it all
You didn't hear it, you didn't see it
You won't say nothing to no one
Ever in your life, you never heard it
Oh, how absurd it, all seems without any proof
You didn't hear it, you didn't see it
You never heard it not a word of it
You won't say nothing to no one
Never tell a soul, what you know is the truth
I've got a feeling twenty-one
Is going to be a good year
Especially if you and me
See it in together
I've got a feeling twenty-one
Is going to be a good year
Especially if you and me
See it in together
I had no reason
To be over optimistic
But somehow when you smiled
I can brave bad weather
What about the boy?

Billy - nice one. Over 90 years old, that recording. Just goes to show that quality shines through the years.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 01/01/2021 - 17:47

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I was wondering if there are any quality 67'-69' live shows with video? I was thinking of an ark box with a video supplement similar to the giants box but obviously not as high quality but more like super-8. Any video from this time is better then nothing.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 01/01/2021 - 19:37

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Look up 1968 columbia university

May 1968

About...20 minutes or so

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Sat, 01/02/2021 - 07:52

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You need the Bear Family A Shot in The Dark - Nashville Jumps box set; killer post-WWII blues and R&B, including the first BB King's recordings, Guitar Slim, Cecil Gant, and the best version ever of You Belong To Me by Helen Foster.
There's one on Ebay right now for $140, good price.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 01/02/2021 - 14:46

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Mucho thanks for the tip...will look into that release...

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 01/03/2021 - 04:36

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Is there no end to the amount of great undiscovered music out there? Yes, there is no end.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sun, 01/03/2021 - 10:30

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Those of a certain age should remember Gerry and the Pacemakers, one of the Liverpool groups in the early 60’s. Liverpool soccer fans still have ‘You’ll never walk alone’ as their theme song.

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