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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    This show is an old friend. It was one of my first high quality soundboard tapes. Yesterday I listened to the Moore audience of the PITB. It's a fun listen if you haven't heard it. Some notes:
    * I like the audience noise on this one. They have a serious case of the clappity-claps during the singing, but blessedly quiet down for the jam.
    * Donna's wail is a lot more lovable on the audience tapes, as others have mentioned. Heck, half of the audience joins in the wail!
    *Sounds like fireworks just as the jam begins. The crowd loves it but the band doesn't miss a beat. How times have changed. I suppose nowadays fireworks might end a concert.
    *There's some random talking during the quiet middle section, but it sounds kinda cool, in a way. Someone tries to catch the attention of "Chino".
    *You can hear the audience really light up as the band goes in for the final kill of the jam!

    Audience tapes can be a little rough, but they can be a lot of fun, too.

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    Yep, great show and we hit this one not too long ago. Always worth another listen. It is in the normal rotation at my house. I just listened to it again last week. Fun show.

    Keep them coming!

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    Best ever?

    I think the Europe 72 material is the Dead at their peak. 1969 & 1970 still another peak.

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    Top of their game Dead.

    Reading reviews I see a lot of referring to 9/27 & 9/28 in best of terms.
    Also as favorites of Dick, so there's that.
    Latvala!
    I need to listen to 9/27 again, surprisingly it has not been a POD yet and It's been awhile since I've sat down with it.
    But 9/28 holy moly, that's some good stuff.
    No need for me to do some kind of blow by blow, it's all there, you heard it. Awesome!
    We were talking about why it hasn't been released. And I can only assume it's due to the missing bits. Missing opener, vocals in Loser, end of IKYR, and supposedly there's a cut in The Other One? I didn't hear it, I guess Charlie Miller was saying the same thing, if you heard it, point it out.

    September '72 epic stuff huh Bob T?
    BTW we saw you boogying but couldn't get down there, too high!
    What a place the Stanley Theater, "a plushy vaudeville palace with an enormous curved balcony", heading into disrepair. Just the kind of place for the Dead.

    Great reviews of these shows in the liner notes of DiP V11 and the Taper's Compendium as well as Archive.org.

    Best of '72? Best Ever? What do you all think?
    (Edit: Note - the above are comments I read in regard to these two shows, I'm not feeling it, but am curious of your alls input, if "your alls" is a word, which it's not..)
    Veneta is hard to unseat. But I'm always happy to look for a contender.
    (Another Edit: So come one come all, who's got a show that unseats Veneta?!?!)

    Well that was fun! I could spend a day or two or three on that show. And now I kind of want to put on 9/27/72 and of course 9/28/75's name is getting tossed around like a rag doll.
    What's a Deadicated fan supposed to do?!?

    I guess I'll get back Truckin' on...

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    Bobby T - That 9/28/75 Lindley Meadows show from is one of my favorites as well. Jerry had the fuzz turned up nice and loud - sounded great on Help / Slipknot!

    Oroborous - KISS was also my first show, 1979 Dynasty Tour, 7 yrs old. Missed them 2 years earlier in their prime. Oh well - I didn't realize it at the time.

    Bluecrow - I'm checking out a few tunes from A Stay at The Stanley 9/28/72. Good call. I noticed Jerry go off on the St. Stephen theme for quite a bit during Greatest Story Ever Told. I'm now melting into 9/28's highly renowned Other One....

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    Hey I know I'm doing the virtual Sep 72 tour

    But totally forgot about 9/28/75....... One of my favorites from 30 Trips...... Wore out this tape back in the day!!! Happy 45 th birthday to the kid that was born there that day!!!! bob t

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    Pretty sweet line up of pre Dead shows Oroborous. Kiss, The Eagles, Tull, Clapton. Love the bag of goodies. Great stuff.

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    Kiss with the Rockets opening. A little over a year before the Dead? (What a difference at that age a year makes!!)
    Barely 15, GA, we children were surrounded by BIG, dudes and we got crushed near the front so I think moved back a bit? In our and our parents naïveté we had paper shopping bag with snacks....obviously that didn’t last long on the GA floor with that mob! Hilarious.
    Not sure of order, but also Big Summerfest: Fleetwood Mac, Foreigner, Bob Welch, and Pablo Cruise at first stadium show, Jethro Tull with Uriah Heap opening, Supertramp (I think it was that year?) Eagles, and maybe that year Clapton with Muddy Waters opening! ???.....
    So those and a steady stream of tall tales and tapes for over a year and I was over ready to finally catch the Dead, which was so completely awesome and different that, well here we are 40+ years later still talking about them!
    Thanks for sharing, I love the stories! My favorite part of this.

    EDIT: Lake G was sweet!

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    Hey Oroborous, the Vikes, yes, new year same old story. 0-3 is not the way to start the year. We will see. I know one thing for sure, they won't win the Superbowl this year.

    I don't remember the lawn expansion, sorry. Only made it into the pavilion seats one year. Too bad it was Steely Dan in 1996 (and it was a great show) and not the Dead.

    Always loved driving to Lake Geneva during the day.. We needed that especially in 88 with the drought that summer.

    Yes, not sure why they played in the Domes. They were never good for concerts.

    My first concert by the way was Billy Joel, the Glass Houses Tour in I think 81 or 82 at the St. Paul Civic Center. My Dad took me and a buddy. That was wild and I remember my Dad telling us some guys were smoking pot in the audience.

    What was your first concert?

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    Wow, 6/30/95, 7/8&9/95, Alpine 86, 7/2/86, Hampton 86, Hampton 87, and 7/4/86 (think I’m in that video)...
    You guys been busy, my minds eye try’s to go where your leading but I’m slow and can’t keep up lol.
    I’ve been like a mental ping pong ball jumpin around in my head lol.
    Unfortunately most of those shows are mostly a blur! But except the “last” shows and 7/2/86, feel like most were good!
    Though sounds like I need to revisit 7/8&9/95?

    STRIDER: add to that fine book list the GOAT, Candace Brightman!

    DEADVIKES: great origins story! I too was barely 16 the first time, though I had been thoroughly indoctrinated by hardcore older DH’s for a good year before I was finally able to see/feel “it” live, in all its glory. I’d also seen several other concerts too, but like tripping or gettin some, there is no apt description to begin to accurately convey that first live Dead experience! Truly a band beyond description. You are so right about 86 Alpine though. Won’t say night and day, but the differences between 86 and 87 were very noticeable. Was 87 the year they expanded and steepened the lawn?
    Anyway, seeing those 2 for your 2nd and third show was fortunate. Remember hearing a tape of the Metrodome and it sounded just as bad as the Carrier dome. Ironically, the SBs are actually good from those shows, but the live sound was horrible. Unfortunately that whole 86 summer tour, hell ALL of 86 was a insane shroom fog, but I remember really digging it there and the shows. My memory is that Riverbend blew me away, one of those you had to be there. I think the only time we ever got good seats from GDTS? Definitely the only time we got inside seats for an Amp show.

    Though I felt like at the time they had crested another little wave after 85 and recall moments of head scratching, I was at the age where I was as all in as I could reasonably be, so had 14 shows in by the time JG fell ill. Often wonder how the year would have played out otherwise, but of course time off was what was needed. Often think they should have taken another hiatus in there somewhere (92?) It seemed to work wonders in 75.

    EDIT: DV, what’s up with the Vikes! The little I’ve seen I feel like their way better than their record but they seem to keep finding a way to lose GO Vikes!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 01/03/2021 - 16:59

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I've been going through them the past few days, rearranged my office at home for the start of the year. I have to say for no reason I have only listened to the 2017 Felt Forum 12/6/71 disc only once when I received it. This year's Jai Alai Fronton bonus disc I have played the most, the 2 December 69 Bonus Discs, the July 76 Orpehum, and Academy of Music.. Bob t

Listening to these two shows back to back contrasts dare I say two of the better DS's ever performed, classics in their respective years.

Winterland is so relaxed.. notes and chord progressions fall into place peacefully, all perfectly timed, seemingly unhurried with lots of space for everyone to stretch out. .. even the usually post apocalyptic part has an unrushed melodic peaceful quality to it. So relaxed. Then a moving transition into a wonderfully emotive Morning Dew. Wowwow stuff.

The Fillmore version is energetic and purposeful. Every note and chord progression is laid out to bare with much forethought and exactness. Aggressive, purposeful and on time. It isn't until after the first verse until they relax and the second jam proceeds.. and by then they are out of the cosmos and in strange territories.. they reel us back in good time for St Stephen/The Eleven/Lovelight. Powerful with purpose.

A tale of two Dark Stars, and two of the great ones at that. What a great sequence of shows to listen to back to back. What a great juxtaposition of the two great Dark Star jams.

Many thanks for those that suggested these two shows get listened to. ok.. Back to your normally scheduled Dark Star / Morning Dew, as you were.

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Submitted by prmtyms on Sun, 01/03/2021 - 22:04

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This is the best Pick of all of them. These performances of "Deal," "The Music Never Stopped," "Eyes," and "Scarlet/Fire" are true highlights in the career of a great band.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 01/04/2021 - 06:18

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Jim , that’s both hilarious and brilliant. I think I just had my best laugh of the new year.
Who writes this stuff?

“Searchlight casting for faults in the clouds of delusion”

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/04/2021 - 09:55

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....how about Portland 6.12.80. The Mt. St. Helen's eruption show. Fire On The Mountain y'all.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1980/06/12
Alabama Getaway ->
Promised Land
Peggy-O
El Paso
Brown-Eyed women
Far From Me
Althea
Lost Sailor ->
Saint Of Circumstance ->
Deal
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Drumz ->
Scarlet Begonias ->
Fire On The Mountain ->
Estimated Prophet ->
Drumz ->
Space ->
Not Fade Away ->
Black Peter ->
Around & Around ->
Good Lovin'
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Johnny B. Goode
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I wonder if Mary E checks these out from time to time.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Mon, 01/04/2021 - 12:26

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Whooo hoooo!!!

For those of you who are unfamiliar with 71, let the good Doc show you the way! A few years ago, I took him up on his incredibly generous offer for some 71 goodness, and I am so glad that I did! 1971 is a top-shelf year for me now, thanks in large part to that kind man! It might not be everyone's "cup of tea," but who really likes tea? It's more like a shot of bourbon!

Welcome back, brother! I look forward to reading your thoughts and learning of / rediscovering more 71 gems!

Now, 6/12/80 - sounds right up my alley! Oh, look, I'd already favorited VGuy's suggested recording (the Miller transfer) on Archive! Nice!

Peace

They should give him his own page. It would be much easier to follow and keep track of.

Something like they did with Blairs Golden Road and David Dodds Greatest Stories Ever Told.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 01/04/2021 - 17:33

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Not really any different than Bolo’s Pick Of The Day page.

And considering that Doc provided photos from Jai-Alai for the release, he probably deserves to get a page devoted to his favorite year.

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 03:30

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yes 71 is a very good year between primal dead and the best era 72-74 and is nnow well documented with the final shows at Fillmore East, 3 shows from the Capitol Port Chester, Albuquerque, Ann Arbor, Chicago, San Diego, Hollywood, and the unforgettable Skull and roses. I wishyou all a happy new year. and maybe have a cup of tea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9pLpREHh10

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 06:46

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Yo Doc! Looking forward to some 1971.

Figure I'll start with a question you might have some info on.

Do you know if the rest of 1/21/71 SBD is around?

So far I've come across the last 3 songs of Set 1.

But curious if you have any input on that show and if the rest of the SBD exists / circulates?

Feels like a Reddit AMA with Doc '71!

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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 07:46

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I didn't have this in stock!!! I downloaded both copies off the archive. Both may have problems with order and label. I will investigate. I too will be looking to Doc's reply to you about 1/21.

Once again glad to get info about "things" here.

I thought I had ALL the shows!

It's like the old Doctor Who's, you think you have them all and bam! Some joe from katmandu finds an old copy of some lost show. (or they animate them! Hard to imagine Jerry animated :-) )

Okay, I will throw out a show from 8/6/82 at the St. Paul Civic Center. There is good recording available. I have it going now. Nice New Minglewood Blues, Bob goes with it is tea right here in Minneapolis. I can tell you the St. Paul natives at that show didn't care for that.

If any of you check it out, let me know.

Stay well.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 07:52

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Always happy to turn someone on to a show!

Yeah, this Freeborn Hall show flies under the radar, probably due to the lack of SBD.

I don't think I say this very often but, Great Around And Around!
That tune, Cumberland & Casey Jones SBD tracks float around out there.
But I haven't been able to locate anymore of the SBD.
For 1971, the Audience is pretty darn good.
TIFTOO is smoking.
And check out the poster for this show!

Tight Pigpen Artwork.

And I hear you on collecting the Dead.
Just when you think you're done, they pull you back in!

Good Stuff.

I don't think they played this twice that night, this looks like filler of some sort, perhaps from the same show???

Somebody should be able to clear this up for us.. or should I fire up the John Deere and find out what happened to the soundboard master reels while I am at it

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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 08:13

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RIP to Claude Bolling. Jazz pianist, tell truth I didn't know he was still alive, but that 75 album for piano & flute is great!

Dave Rock & 45's.
A short while back 45's were talked about and i think you mentioned Elvis & Do the Clam, I think?.?.

Anyway went thru all old 45's and I actually have 3 Elvis 45's from the early 60's, in the full print and picture sleeves.

Do the Clam/You'll Be Gone (off the "Girl Happy" LP)
Ask Me/Ain't That Loving You Baby (off the "Roustabout" LP)
Blue Christmas/Wooden Heart (both by "Popular Request")

Bought by my brother in about 63/64,,,, cost 66 cents. Today, highest asking price 25 bucks. Good return on investment? I will say the damn things are pretty damn mint, they've been their paper sleeves in a 45 record box (yes the type you'd take to a sock hop), only played a handful of times since bought!!!

I'd tell ya about my Grand Funk Railroad 45, in gold plastic, in a picture sleeve, with the band members looking out a hotel window,,,,, but that would be a third thing.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 08:23

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Do the Double take.
One is from the Audience and the other is the SBD filler.

It appears they tacked on the Around And Around, Cumberland & Casey Jones SBD at the end ;)
Track listings are one off for songs after Set 1 Casey Jones

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 10:51

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Dennis-I think it was Blue Hawaii I mentioned-but the three Elvis singles you have eclipse that one by some distance. I can remember The Cramps covering "Do the Clam" on the Date With Elvis tour around 1986.

Grand Funk Railroad too - my sole record of theirs back in the day was the "Do The Locomotion" single. I wasn't too impressed, I have to say, and it took about 40 years before I got something else by them-the so called Red Album. Much more like it!

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Submitted by bolo24 on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 11:01

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Heard through a friend that I've been reported as AWOL around here. Sorry.

We had a COVID outbreak up here at the North Pole, the elves went on strike, the Mrs. left me for the Tooth Fairy, and Dancer, Vixen and Blitzen all had food poisoning on Christmas Eve, so I wasn't able to make my complete rounds - missed Madagascar and Lithuania. Needless to say, a crappy way to cap off a crappy year. On to 2021!

Glad to see y'all keeping the embers stoked around here. I'm a bit behind on the picks, only missed the last 26 or so.

To commemorate Doc's emergence from hibernation and his love of all things 1971, here's a video pick for sometime this week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWbzmRBU6Lg&list=RDKWbzmRBU6Lg&start_ra…

Cheers and keep smiling!

Good to see you back in the mix Bolo. Looking forward to hearing about the next boxset.

Now it is time for Oroborous to check in.

I am digging this 82 show!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 16:26

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Looking for a Chateau
21 Tunes and a Morning Dew..

Funny.. Carlo asked about older videos on the other thread the day after I watched Festival express.. then this post. Chateau d' HerouvilIe is my favorite 'older' video. What a quirky, cool event captured on decent film.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 17:24

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Will make it easier to access by having a bookmark to it.

A window to a better year with the dumpster fire in the rear view mirror.

....give Doc a page.
I'll upvote the shit out of it.
Good to hear from you Bolo. Peace. This psychedelic corner of the internet helped me last year quite a bit.

He's done the work an is willing to post it here. It would be eminently more useful if it had its own place to live instead of buried somewhere.

If it had to live on an existing thread, probably better here than Dave's picks, but we would be listening to a lot of '71 (not that that's a bad thing). For what it's worth I was listening to Road Trips Volume 1 Number 3, Summer '71. A complete coincidinks.

Still, I vote for a separate thread.

I might have to check out January 6, 1978 today.

laryngitis and voice is gone by Deal but Jerry focuses his powers into his guitar playing.

Look at that Set 2.

Think I gotta dust this one off.

Yes, it certainly is nice to be back in San Bernardino...

PS - I'll try and circle back to 8/6/82 wasn't able to fit that in yesterday.
Love some August '82, August 1st Zoo show & 8/3 Starlight Theatre show are worth a nice trip back too.
Too Much, really man, too much!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 06:40

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Sounds like another great way to grow the community! Of course, that is if the Good Doctor is up for it :)

Peace

EDIT: 1/6/78 - The first Larynjerry show? FIERCE Truckin'! Terrible Bob joke, spacey Playin'! This show has everything, except Jerry singing in set 2 :) Good pick!

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Submitted by unkle sam on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 07:59

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Let the Doc have a page of his own, we need 71 Dead highlighted and the good doctor has the goods. Hey Bolo, long time...... what's happenin' Daverock, that Red lp is the best Grand funk out there, also, closer to home and the survival lp are also good ones. Happy new year all, thank you Georgia for putting the final nail in the coffin, now, onward 2021, let's make it the best year ever.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 10:53

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Yes! Give the good doctor his own page for everything '71.

And while we're at it, maybe drag this forum into the 18th century and allow anyone to start a topic, like 99% of all message boards. 😜

Unkle Sam-yes, that Red Album is great. Grand Funk were a bit of an unknown quantity in mid 70s Britain-but if we had come across them in 1973, they would have been right up there with Purple, Sabbath, Uriah Heep etc in my circle. Pity they never toured here - to my knowledge.

2/14/68 is also hotter than hell. The energy the Dead put out at that time was phenomenal.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 14:40

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Not really sure what you mean??

You can post anything you want on any of these threads, but most of us come here for music and the Dead. I will stress most of us.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 17:28

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I have a feeling the next box will be coming in the next week. I stress that it is only an inkling and not an insider info technique to become popular. P.S.- "It came to me in a dream." That's a George carlin quote. Ha!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 18:36

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Sweet Carlo, what is it going to be?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 18:37

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Lemieux mentioned the 2021 box in yesterday's "Today in Grateful Dead History."

Spoiler alert..
He said he was very excited about this years Box, and that it is very special.

Well, that certainly narrows it down.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 19:49

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No clue. It has been a while since the 76' box. I want it to be an ark box like a lot of you dudes keep hinting at. Dave's ark.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 21:37

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Okay, that makes at least two of us, I am very excited as well Jim.

Of course............

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 04:59

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Given what's going on in the world, maybe we could do with something that has a bit of fire power.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 05:56

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Ark Ark..

Actually... wouldn't it be nice and a good time for one of those surprises.. an OLD master freed from the tyranny of the vault that is magically restored to a sound quality that far exceeds the versions that circulate. I don't care so much what show.. just release one of those treasures that we know must exist in an obscure, rarely visited shelf in the vault.

(ark.. arkark. ark)

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 06:51

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I have it on very good authority the new box will be a dozen shows Dennis has been to.

Good enough for Dennis, good enough for me! Can't wait!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 08:37

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I hope we get a big 1969 box ,10 shows. or the complete Winterland Oct. 1974 run with audio and video, that sells out in minutes.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 09:50

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I mean on most message boards a member can create a new topic, like a "Doc's '71" thread, and anyone can go in there are read about that topic and post like we do here. The difference here is that only admin can start a new thread, and they are ostensibly about whatever a new release is, but soon veer off in various directions. So we have 3 threads going that cover everything instead of more focused discussion in purposefully created threads.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 10:07

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Yes, that makes sense. I get it, but I don't think they will loosen the strings on this site anytime soon.

Billy, yes the 74 Winterland complete box would be unreal, just don't know if they would do it since the work they did in 2005-2006 with the Movie and the Soundtrack.

But we can hope.

I am sticking with a 1980 box release for this year.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 10:57

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What'll it be..

Any picks today?
If not I'll catch up on 8/6/82.
8/1/82 is worth a re-visit for any and all '82 lovers out there, non-lovers might enjoy it too.

Meanwhile..
Box set anticipation fun. I'd be hip to hear about a box set.
I was so off with my guess on Dave's final pick, not sure it's worth it for me to speculate.
That being said, the Pac NW tour of '68 especially if there was some uncirculating stuff, would tickle me to no end.
Or whatever hasn't been released from November '72.
But.. I hope whatever it is, it's budget minded :)

I guess time will tell. Something to look forward to.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 11:51

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Okay, 8/1/82, I will hit it up this afternoon. After the great St. Paul Civic Center show of 8/6/82, looking forward to checking your suggestion out. Thanks.