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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • JimInMD
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    Re: What's better 10/9 or 10/16

    Clearly the last one listened to is the better show.

  • unkle sam
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    dark stars, space, orange sunshine

    or anything else that will get you to that place :) Give me all the strangeness, weirdness, just out of this worldness that can transpire during a dark star or drums>space or Playin' in the Band, I love it all and in my opinion we need the weirdness that is the out of this world sounds coming out of these songs. This was and still is my favorite part of the shows, there is never a drums>space>Dark Star TOO that I don't like. I was at a show too with a newbie and she asked me what they were doing during space, I did not answer until after the show because I did not want to miss any part of it, later, I told her that what they were doing was the best part of the show. She did not understand to say the least. She later got "it" and is now a die hard space head.
    Just my opinion on another topic, 10-8 or 10-16? try 10/26, awesome dark star and just a fine show from Miami.

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    I've always loved this particular Dark Star from Europe 72. Very energetic and I love the dissonant chords Bobby adds near the end, which spins it off into Sugar Magnolia. Only the 2nd show of the tour, starting out strong.

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    E’72 Dark Stars are fabulous.... got both the guts and the grace.

    For the abstracted portions, I always keep in mind how those moments fit into the overall framework. Like before entry of the first verse when they are playing around with the basic chordal-rhythmic-melodic structure of the song without actually leaving it entirely behind. Or then afterward when they go freeform to search out new ground to stand upon. I actually find it helpful to have the time clocking on the TV so I can see where they are within the usual 30 minute structure. Keeps my listening focused. Otherwise it can be difficult to wrap my head around what went on between points A and B.

    Personal favorite is first night in Denmark. Probably the most accessible too. First 15 minutes is a beautiful, slow build up to the 'dark star crashes' verse. Second 15 minutes revolves around the formation and deconstruction of a thrilling Feeling Groovy jam that slightly hints at TOO. Quite simple really when broken apart. Perfectly played and very, very alive. Sugar Magnolia appropriately follows.

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    What's better? 10/9/89 vs 10/16/89

    Sorry if this is an old debate, but several of my friends and I recently listened to both of these shows and were trying to decide which night was better. Both are obvioulsy amazing shows. But i'll do this every few years, give or take, and I always go with 10/16/89. Two of my friends chose 10/9/89 and another said that 10/8/89 is better than both...Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own

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    Count me as one of the people who likes Drums/Space.

    I recorded video at FTW and made sure I got Space every night.

    https://youtu.be/Oswmu2IOPEk

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Shipping? Or just hanging out?

    Tracking shows that mine has been hanging out in Fontana, CA for 3 days.

  • fourwindsblow
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    That's a great story, Loved it!

    The crazier the better. Yes! haha

  • TimC722
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    Shipping

    @PKB, thanks! Now it shows everything. Hopefully coming Friday, just in time for the weekend.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Someone give Butch an orange sunshine

    Everything should make sense then.

    Those parts of Dark Star, Other One, MLBJ (6-28-74), some Playing in the Bands, are similar to what was called ‘Feedback’ in the 60’s.

    Generally, the crazier it gets the more I like it. Probably because as a teenager I listened excessively to early Pink Floyd and found that the longer and stranger a song was, the more I liked it. Then I went to my first GD show and Drums/Space along with long jams showed me that there was something better than Pink Floyd. I dove onto that bus and never looked back.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Still nothing in Skåne.
I have given up thinking it will arrive.
I am in touch with customer service and asking for a replacement copy.

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I have just been informed that the Swedish Postnord have returned my Daves to sender! No information when or why, and no attempt at communication from them. I have been chasing them constantly since it was sent from Brussels on 19 may since when no tracking updates.
I hope Dead net can send a replacement......
This is not the first time something from Dead Net/Rhino has not arrived. Not their fault, but I shall not be subscribing again. Too much hassle.

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Tried to post yesterday. System here unresponsive. (Usually that's my schtick...) Thought perhaps someone (Carlo3??) believed I went too far with that tame tale of twiddling. Had a story to tell. Forgot it.

Please resume your vulture-like waiting for ... yet another show.

So, one more DaP to go this year, which is usually something pretty sweet. Have we begun to speculate?

My entry is fall '72...................

I'm hoping for a '69 show as the final 2020 Dave's and then if we get a second box this year make it the '72 (STL) Fox box, ohh that'd be nice!

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It's a nightmare! Seems I'm the only one in Germany who has not received the CDs.
Wonder why this happens obviously only with deadnet/Rhino.
I'd ordered Garcia Vol. 13 on June 24 from the 'Big River' USA. Guess what? CD had been shipped on 2nd July and arrived on July 13.
Now 11 weeks waiting time for DaP 34.
I'm also waiting for DaP 33. After I received a shipping note on 30 Jan. I was in good hope. On 3rd April I checked status.
Surprise, surprise. Status said: processing! Customer service promised me to send a copy as soon as possible.
Repeatedly on June 23.
Next trip might be the WMD box, shipped July 10th. And I'm worrying what becomes of DaP 35.
I understand possible delays due to Covid 19, but as it has proved it can be done better.
The shipping time for the June '76 box was 6 weeks, but he box made it and it was acceptable.
I'm not sure if'll I ever buy or subscribe again.
Not a good day, Gerd
Dogon, check pm if you like

Huh, my posts from last night is gone, which is ok as I only was trying to see if it was just another board or all of Deadnet? I was ble to post, but not edit, then this AM it was all there, but now gone?

EROUPE DP 34: that’s crazy that y’all still are having problems getting 34? Murphy’s law too, it would have to be a killer 74.....have any of you tried contacting the Dr or Marye? Hope you receive yours one way or another, sooner than later.

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Thanks for your concern Oroborous. I havnt reached out to Marye, because this time the fault doesnt seem to lie with Deadnet, rather, their choice of shipping. Of course the Covid epidemic has slowed things down considerably, but we are also talking about the delays of the various links in the chain which should get Daves to me, and Postnord has also showed a remarkable level of incompetence. I have phoned them numerous times but they do not recognise the tracking number, today I didnt let them fob me off, and was then told it had been returned to sender!
Deadnet have assured me that they will send a replacement, but even if they can get their warehouse to issue it, its another 2 months till I have it my hand. If it comes, thats a big if!
Onward and upward

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Bummer, you folks across the pond have to be really dedicated just to get some new tunes!
Hopefully it’ll all work out and maybe someday they’ll figure a better alternative. It seems ridiculous in 2020 Covid or not that the “system” is so inefficient.

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Hey, I totally meant the "too much info" as a funny response to a funny situation. I'm no prude, believe me I've had my share of covert sex at the shows.

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Still no DaP 34 here too!
I'm really exhausted by the way they managed things! I have been shopping on the Deadnet for 25 years but the last 2 years have been a disaster! Just for the record...Last year I had to pay twice the price of the Pacific Northwest boxset due to some mysterious courier deposit costs, I contacted Deadnet and you know what...they didn't even answer me!
Obviously I don't buy boxes anymore, I don't want to throw money away
@Dogon
you're right when you say that there are many links in the chain of the delivery but it's not my job to investigate, my deal is with Deadnet/Rhino.
OK I'm out
Have a nice weekend Dead Freaks

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Dave said the next one would be a big one, maybe 5/26/73 Kezar, that's a big one.

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38 years ago today I was down in Ventura having a blast! The Dead put on a great show, they ended the first set with Truckin. I spent a lot of time in the beer garden that day. Crazy fun times had by all.

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Can anybody tell me how to get to Dave's 35 'Comments'? The links to 'Description', 'Product Details', 'Track Listing', and 'Comments' on the main 'Product Pages' no longer go anywhere. I was only able to get to this 'Comments' page because I have it bookmarked. I'm using Chrome. Same results on Firefox.

Am I missing something? – Wouldn't be the first time. . . Onward?

I can access it from the product page using my iPad. The other way is to click Community at the top of the home page, go to the bottom of the list and select Dead Store Products then scroll down the list, at the moment the DaP 35 comments are found on the second page of this list but will surely move up to be first page as more people comment. Then you can bookmark it. Alternately, wait until it appears in the last four posts shown at the bottom of the home page click there and bookmark it.
Hope this helps.

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Just as I was about to go into existential free-fall, you and another brother showed me a new way to Dave's 35 Comments. Thanks a ton! I still don't understand why I can't get to 'Comments' via the main 'Product' pages (I tried Dave's 34 & 35 and WMD). It didn't matter if I was using Chrome, Firefox or Safari on my MacBook Pro – the links on the main 'Product' pages don't work – all that loads is the product image, Listening Party, Dave's Backyard Chat and dead* links to 'Description', 'Product Details', 'Track Listing', and 'Comments'. And everything's normal on an iPad? Weird. . . Thanks again for the workaround! Onward, Jeff

* That's 'dead', not 'Dead' ;-)

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has anyone of you from Europe already received their copy of DaP34? because i'm still waiting. and the client support mailing agent or whatever wasn't helpful either, because he gave me a generic copypasta as an answer...

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The missing Europe CDs bugs me. I think (hope) they will get there eventually.
34 is monster good. Perhaps soon.... we hope.

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Most European copies were delivered in June. Mine arrived in the Netherlands on June 3. Many others in Europe received theirs later that month but Scandinavians, amongst others, have, in many cases, not been so lucky and are still waiting or have given up. I am afraid this offers little consolation to those still waiting.

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I don't know for the rest of Europe, but here in Belgium I am still waiting for my DaP 34. I did receive a tracking number but USPS's status hasn't moved since may 12th and any response to my inquiry from customer service hasn't yet showed up (worst part about the situation is that the DaP shipments do transit in Brussels!). And of course that kind of thing had to happen with the DaP that came with the bonus disc. So, even if Dead.net issued a replacement, would it come with said bonus disc?

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I will make sure to get my own copy. I and my husband spent time that day on the beach.

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...this release is getting pushed back to this Fall now Due to More Virus Condition Arose effecting final inspection quality control. I’m very grateful everyone envolved is keeping a close eye on All Details to this upcoming grateful release . Some primal 68’ dead awaits many turntables across the Gobe!
Have a grateful evening & weekend my brothers & sisters! Peace be with you all. I still enjoying WMD 50th and honestly the last 3 Dave’s picks in the series! It’s been a grateful 2020 for the Dave’s Picks series & bonus disc so far for this grateful DeadHead! I’m still going bonkers over #34! Lol ha ha! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Yeah I got that email too.

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Gave 6/11 another spin last night. What a wonderful show and a nice little box set.

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In case anybody reads this stuff any more....................

Miami was released six months ago. Still don't have the things promised to me by DL. Yup that's right, for six straight months not a soul has been at Rhino.

I deeply regret allowing TPTB to use those
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In case anybody reads this stuff any more....................

Miami was released six months ago. Still don't have the things promised to me by DL. Yup that's right, for six straight months not a soul has been at Rhino.

I deeply regret allowing TPTB to use those
pictures..............

Doc
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Doc, let me get this straight, you loaned the Grateful Dead pictures, they promised you stuff, you got nothing? What the@$%& is up with that? DL time to get with the program or get down the road. Now I see where their loyalties lie with them selves and money I guess. Shame and just not Dead like. Do the right thing Dave and Deadnet

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Well, finally got my stuff, not exactly what I asked for but it'll have to do. Better late than never, I suppose...........

Nothing left to discuss here, let's move on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Long time Dead listener. I've purchased Dead shows on and off through the years, but have missed the boat on many great shows officially released in recent years due to life's demands. Last item I purchased was "Get Shown the Light." I was wondering is there anywhere to buy sold out official Dead releases for a reasonable price anywhere? I get on eBay and about pass out when I see the prices listed for individual Dave's Picks. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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I often look on Discogs site to see if there are second hand box sets that I am looking for. I can't say I have ever bought a Dead show from them-and those I have looked at don't come cheap. But I have found bargains by other artists-so it's worth a look if you haven't checked them out before.

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Yes, it was available for $28.98 last Thursday.

9-8-73, -2-23-74, 11-2-69/12-26-69 still available.

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keep'em comin', more '74!
celebrating 50 years!!

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...thanks for passing on the photo's from Jai-Alai from your friend, just looking at them as I load up disc 1 for today's LET IT ROCK n roll show. Sending MANY healing VIBES your way!

PEACE ALL!
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This is kind of an odd question but I am wondering if anyone is aware of the existence of subscriber versions of this (with the bonus disc) that are NOT numbered? The reason I ask is because when this was released, my order got utterly lost en route, and so I contacted Dead.net for a replacement. IIRC, the title was already sold out, and yet I got a replacement with the subscriber bonus disc, which made me happy. I had been so anxious to hear an official version of these shows that by the time the replacement was sent, I had already obtained the digital audio files from what may or may not have been nefarious means.. So I kept my copy sealed. Then, lo and behold, months later my original order shows up at my door, and in one piece too!

But I've been hanging on to that replacement order for years now, and since times are especially tough in my house, I'm considering selling it for whatever the invisible hand of the market decides its worth. However, I can't discover whether or not it is a numbered copy without breaking the shrink wrap. So back to my question - are they any known *unnumbered* copies of this or any other DP entries that shipped with a bonus disc? I've also heard of people collecting the unnumbered / promo copies, which seems weird to me (it's not like promo vinyl where there are sound quality reasons to want a white-label promo).

On a related note, I received another unnumbered copy, this time DP 49, in February, and Dead.net replied to my inquiry in record time and sent out a replacement via FedEx lickity-split. I've also had a few vinyl orders that shipped out FedEx as the default lately. Good on them for (finally) upping their shipping game!

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