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    Yes, it was listening to 8/13/75 on vinyl yesterday - it does sound really good. I have Two From The Vaults on vinyl, but not Three - I've been on the verge of getting it for some time.

    While we are on the subject, I wondered what the quality of the vinyl was like on your copy of Daves 2 ?On the first few sides, every now and again there is a loud crackle type noise on a song. It's over immediately, but then reappears a few songs later - and again disappears a soon as I've registered it. The last few sides are fine all the way through.

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    And the remastered version sounds spectacular as well.

    I will have to get it going on Thursday.

    Don't forget Milking the Turkey.

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    If you don’t have it,
    8-13-75 vinyl sounds pretty good and I don’t think it’s even 180 g.

    Just occured to me that I have all 3 FTV’s on vinyl.
    Nice!

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    Purely by chance, I found myself listening to the Great American Music Hall show from 8/13/75 today- without realising it was it's anniversary. I'm not pulling your leg here. As everyone knows, it is a great and unique show. If I was compiling my best 10 or 15 shows, I would make room for this one. It's a level playing field of excellence from the opening HSF triumvirate through to U.S Blues.

    I also love the closing "Blues For Allah" which is so off the wall it's in a category of it's own. Seems more weird in the way "What's Become Of The Baby" was than anything else in their repertoire. Shame they didn't do more with it in the later years. It would have been perfect for Egypt.

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    Hard to beat these shows, Firstshow.

    Such an interesting little tour and then to end up at Red Rocks. What a box. Looking forward to more 78 in September!

    The Dead always made it a priority to play in MN for most of the late 70s to 1989- Then never again. And not in my second home state WI.

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    Trying to compare the July 7th & 8th, 1978 shows is like trying to pick your favorite child (or grandchild for some of us). Both shows have that crazy energy and all out playing that often characterizes last shows of a tour. And that follow up Aug 30-31, 1978 (Hey Dave! Release the hounds!) was the just exactly perfect style having just come from the studio for Shakedown Street. Quite a different beast altogether but no less satisfying. Finishing up 7-7 this morning at Dead volume and loving it. That NFA with a Nobody's twist in the middle is the stuff!
    Cheers

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    Yes OB, the place is great and good size on the inside. First paid concert for me in a long time. Great to be back.

    Nice list of multiple encores.
    Deadbase is incorrect, 7/17/89 had a double encore, We bid you Goodnight and JBG. We were there.

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    Place looks cool DV. Bigger looking than you’d think?
    From outside, reminds me of old Syracuse War Memorial Aud.
    Glad you dug it! Sounds like first time back to live music? Nice!

    Multiple/encores? Ok, I’ll play lol
    4/12/83
    6/21/84 (3)
    6/24/84
    6/27/85
    7/1/85
    6/28/86
    6/29/86
    6/22/87
    6/25/88
    4/3/89
    7/17/89 DB says only 1?
    6/6/92
    7/1/92
    7/9/95

    Ahhh, Good ole summer tour!

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    We made it to the show at The Armory in Minneapolis on Friday night. Big thanks to all for the nudge in the right direction.

    Went on StubHub on Thursday night and bought two tickets on the floor in row 20 for $125 for the two of us. No brainer at that point.

    What a venue, so much fun. We had a blast. Maybe 8,000 people. Sound was great. Huge bars surround the full length of the venue. Really cool, no waiting. Band was outstanding. So great to see a band live again. The anticipation, the living in the moment and being around all kinds of different people.
    Teschedi and Trucks definitely know how to deliver live. Would love to see them again and can't wait to get back to the Armory.

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    Just did 7-8-78 on tape (my earliest copy of the show from 1996 taken from an Italian boot CD on Red Robin label that cost my buddy $70! The sound is raw and unfiltered SBD and amazing) on July 16 to keep the cassette deck lubed, so I will defer to the 7-7-78 show from the box which has one of BC's favorite 1st sets. I heard some of the 7-7 show from the parking lot as I had to work and got there late with no ticket and no plan. Long story short I got chased out by security and ended being needed as a spare driver when my posse came out after the show. But I did have a ticket for the next night. Nothin' like jumpin' in with both feet!
    Cheers

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Tight, cuz I'm digging this 8/6/82 as we speak :)

This set 1 is real good, awesome Bird Song!

8/1/82 Highlights = End of Set 1 China > Rider and Set 2. Dig that Playin > Iko > Playin > Lost > Saint > D > Space > Wheel > Playin Reprise > Black Peter.
That's what I'm talking about boyz!

Also atmosphere of playing at a Zoo, that must've been fun. Who's got stories?

I really like '82.

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I zipped you a pm

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I'm not seeing it?

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I only sent the one you responded to in the pm. I'll let you know more when I check out the blu-ray.

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Cool man.

Yeah, it looks dope, keep me posted.

Thanks Carlo!

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Oroborous, check your PM.

Yes, 10/20/84 is a high energy show, especially the Jack Straw. I might have brought this up on this page in the early days.. I forget. If we get on an 84 terror, I really like Augusta from 30 trips.

Another Angry Jack Straw is Providence '85. The first set is high energy and worth checking out.
https://archive.org/details/gd1985-04-04.149449.sbd.miller.clugston.fla…

I'm hip October '84 is good stuff.
Miller dropped an upgrade of this show in late November 2020 sourced from Dick Latvala & Rob Eaton so I've been meaning to check this out again.
So many upgrades!!

Personally love '84, and the playing in late '84 really starts to pick up.
I believe it was around this time the band confronted Jerry and expressed concern.
To my ear, shows from around this time have new purpose.
These October shows and say a show like 11/3/84. Off the hook.
Jerry was stubborn, I'm sure if confronted he would be like.. fuck you, I'll show you fuckers.

Anyhow, this is all just speculation I keep in my head (mostly, unless asked, or posting here on this forum:).
Always been curious about the timeline.
But we know Jerry got busted in Golden Gate Park on January 18, 1985 so that was rock bottom (at least for the 80s). And that's why, again IMO, that 1985 is so killer.

But that's another story for another time and I digress.
We're talking October 1984 here.

Meanwhile, in another galaxy a little more than a couple of years before this...
8/6/82 Good Call Deadvikes, I dug that!
I need to get 8/3/82 in for a revisit.
Between 7/31, 8/1 and 8/3... 8/3 is up there as a contender for best show.
7/31 is hard to beat.
Might have to do that too.

But another time.
For now 10/20/84 here we come.
As soon as I finish this show I was at 33 years ago on 6/20/88 which just got a nice little upgrade this morning :)

Life is good in GD world.
But..
You say you want a Revolution?
Well you know,
We'd all love to see your plan.

PS - I love how you guys call this Angry Jack Straw. Nice...

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I too was at the Carrier Dome,,, Jack and Shakedown got plus 2 from our records!

Looking up my 10/20 show and Jim mentioning 11/3,,, I realized the 10/27-11/3 stand at Berkeley, would make a fine box set. The entire 84 fall tour was hot, but a stand like that would cover the whole catalog (kinda), but be a good snapshot of that period. I don't follow what or what not is in the vault, but miller had soundboards of 10/20, my copy sounds pretty damn good. So I'll assume the Berkeley run was recorded.

sidebar - Good Old Grateful,,,, I smiled quietly to myself when I read "But we know Jerry got busted in Golden Gate Park on January 18, 1985 so that was rock bottom (at least for the 80s). "

..... I would have thought coma was rock bottom,,,, but that's just me! :-)

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Yo Dennis :)
I always felt that the Coma was like rebirth.
Started a second life.
I'm sure it sucked going through it though!
But at the time of the Coma Jer was stubbornly trying to get his shit together.
Jerry describes it like a full on trip, alien plasma stuff.

Amazing how descriptive he was not only in his guitar playing and singing but at the art of conversation.
Every conversation I've heard of his is almost as fascinating as his playing.

Not many folks like that.
I once heard this theory, about how certain people have almost like gravitational pull and that they bring people into their orbit and magic sparks out from that rotational pull and the effect of the connection. I think it was using Diane Sawyer as the example. Wish I could remember where I heard it, mighta been on Oprah :)
Anyhow.. I feel like Jerry was like that.

I'm not getting a lot done this morning, but my mind is having some far out thoughts.

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Dennis you're right about the Berkeley run, I can't remember the consistency of the performances, it's pretty rough and ragged I think, but hot.

Tapes are spotty. Not sure the whole Vault story, but what circulates has got issues:
10/27/84 partial SBD circulates
10/28/84 partial SBD circulates / but Lemieux played it all on Taper’s
10/30/84 partial SBD circulates
10/31/84 SBD
11/02/84 SBD
11/03/84 SBD

Got any cool stories about the Carrier Dome?

I really should start doing something, I woke up early and have been obsessively collecting Grateful Dead upgrades and posting comments. But... yeah might need to do something else.

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This is a great show as well, GOGD. What is about this part of 1982 that seems to rock and the recordings are really good? The playing isn't perfect, but it still rocks. 1984, I will check it out later today.

I was never a big fan of the 1982 RT release from the Spectrum. Might have to check it out again and see if my opinion has changed at all.

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Yeah, late July & early August '82 is hot.
I dug 8/6 too. We gotta circle back and get 8/3/82 in here soon.
8/7, 8/8 & 8/10 are all epic Dead I cut my teeth on BITD.

In regards to that Road Trips release, the real hot stuff is on the Bonus IMO 4/5 is the better show, but I think there's issues with the tape in the Vault as SBD doesn't circulate minus what was released. But the Audience is worth checking out the whole show, cuz it's good!

Good stuff.

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Does seem to be some aggression in this here Jack Straw!

Everybody... Move Back.

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Carrier Dome...such conflicting memories. The place sucked and the sound was worse but all 3 shows we saw there were good. It was about a 2.5-3 hour drive back then and and the NYS nazis were harsh on I-90 around those parts so some freak had the awesome idea to hire a charter bus. Can’t remember how much but for like 10-20 bucks? You had your ride and a keg on the bus and no parking hassles etc...might as well travel the elegant way! Needless to say a good time was had by all!
So much so that we did it again 83! Can’t remember why we didn’t do it for 10/20/84.....but at that point I’m living in this old beat up farm house just out the edge of town with my band mates, which got dubbed the House of Blue Lights.
This was because we had several McIntosh power amps, a blue outside light by the door, and because of this awesome song by Crowbar that we psychedelicised. Most freaks around knew if the blue light was on, the party was happening! Needless to say we went through a lot of blue lights LOL!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0RK0A3vK21M

So I’m living the hippie dream: no car, bunch of hairy smelly dudes all living together in this cheap, drafty old house, little furniture, but huge stereos, with little or no money, and what little there was always went to “supplies”, beer, and when possible more equipment. My rent share was $85 bucks, but in the winter it often cost double that for the damn gas bill. Even keeping the temp around 55-60 might get us a $400-500 dollar gas bill! For food I worked at a Italian restaurant so ate for free at least when I was there, the rest of the time? Scrounged...
So typical for the times, when 10/20 came around I had a ticket, some red sweethearts, and no money.
I was barely dressed and outta the shower when my cousins came round in the granny mobile: an old giant Buick centurion that you could fit like ten people in lol.
Oh, ya need gas money, stick out your tounge lol, oh, you guys gettin beer, let me pitch in, stick out your tongue...
Eventually we’re almost there but need a pit stop so stop at the last rest area before we get to Syracuse.
Hmmmm, I’m hungry, who needs a hit? Lol, well funny now I guess but kinda crazy, as It only took me like five minutes to play Johnny apple seed and made about 75 people happy while also obtaining the desperately needed means to eat, drink, and see Jerry! A true symbiotic relationship as a former boss would say LOL.
Like most I don’t remember too much, but do remember my house mate buddy and I doing a lot of hysterical laughing at this show, like when Bobs going on about bug eyed folks up front etc, well to us that was the funniest damn thing we ever heard!
This is the beauty of Relisten/archive: that now, all these years later, I can hear great quality recordings of these shows and contrary to what I remember, their pretty good.
As GOGD would say we truly are living in a great time to be a DH!
Oh, from what I recall the 82 Jack was smokin’ too.

LOL, I’ll see your drug bust, and raise ya a diabetic coma!

OB - That's good stuff.

The House of Blue Lights. Might As Well.

We're on a roll here today Yos!

JimInMD 8/6/82 -
Highlights - Bird Song, Lazy Lightning > Supplication, Jam after Saint, Space > Truckin’, Baby Blue.
Brent is the all star, his playing is killer through out.
Worth a visit.

BTW this 10/20/84 is on old DL's radar, Shakedown> Sampson was part of 30 days in 2017.
And he's played tasty cuts from 10/14, 15, 28, 31, 11/2 & 3.

I gotta bail.. :)

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Jim, give me what you're smoking!

I need to have that frame of reference...

8/3/82 TLMD is sounding good, I couldn't resist starting out with that track today.

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RT 2.4 5/26/93 cuz I’ve never heard it and it’s fresh outta the wrapper!
Snuck in the extra stuff from 5/27 last night and have just enough time to do 5/26before football.
The 27th stuff was decent. The shakedown starts out sorta plodding, but JG immediately steps it up, good sign!
Some of his vocals like High Time are a bit ruff, but that doesn’t bother me as much as some folks. So far I’d say it’s better than I would of thought in the past, but they’ve definitely lost some of their hutzpah by this point in time.
I’ve never listened to much past 91 so far. I think I’m ready to check out what little official stuff is out, and perhaps the remaining shows I was at but haven’t heard yet....really interested in the 91 Richfield run, (the fornicating with whales run), as I seem to recall someone (GOGD?) saying they were good? I honestly don’t remember much about the shows Cept I liked em....and the extra curricular stuff ; )

I’ve been REALLY burned out on dead, well, more like life in general, so I’m thinking what’s the best palate cleanse of all and still be playing dead....the 90s as it’s really the last frontier for me. So I think I might hang out there for a bit, but I have checked out some of the fun here and will continue.
The 8/6/82 was a nice change and yes GOGD it is nicely Brentcentric, also did most of the New Years Pepsi challenge (didn’t get first 2 sets of 78 in). Went deep on 89, 90 and that fun set 3 from 82 on video. Actually saw all of 81 and 82 on vid for first time. The jam in the 72 show was “primo” lol. 69 was fine, and quite the weird set list. At first I thought they were a tad wobbly, but they eventually entrain nicely. 76 of course is top shelf, but I forgot how awesome that playing is!

Also, weirdly, lol, is that a word? been really linked some how with that 12/6/73 Dark Star since that popped up. It’s like the one thing that really seems to release me and let’s me go to the happy place? The past month I’ve listened to very little dead, but that DS kept popping up?

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OB - I dig switching it up.

Let's see if the following holds true..

"what’s widely considered to be one of the best versions of Playing In The Band since 1974."
- Taper's Section from 3/14/17

I'm down to go there.

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I dug it as I do all weirdness, but imho that’s hyperbole....thinking that 88 (Laguana Seca?) just one off the top of head, or even that 12/31/76, there’s more....but it was a Bobbie dazzler just the same.
More thoughts coming, but I think I need to call 911 first after the finish of the Bills game....I’m too old for that shite...their like the dead, always kinda flying by the seat of their pants!

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Yeah, I'm not feeling that comparison.. at all.

It's good, but it's good for '93.

Def 12/31/76 slays this bad boy.

But it's fun and always good to hear quality jams in these later shows.

Dec '92 through early '93, there's some gold in them there hills.

Can't help you with the Bills or getting old, but I feel your pain bro!

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Checking out this show from 6/20/91. There is a great recording from Pearson and Healy, transfered by Miller. Also, this was released as Download Series #11. This was a hot period!

I am really digging it and there is a Maggie's Farm and Birdsong.

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Done with my morning ski, lunch and coffee.. and was just checking in to see if there was a pick..

I'm all in, and agree with dvikes.

Edit: Nice little show, really hit the spot. Great recording and an interesting setlist. A Throwing Stones sandwich? Get outa here...

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What direction is the wind blowing.. any preferences, any shows in the queue?

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10/24/79 Springfield Civic is on my relisten list.

Wanna go?

EDIT - There's X Factor in this Scarlet > Fire! :)

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Yes, sounds like a winner to me. Thanks.
Edit. I am not seeing a full show available for 10/24/79?

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forgot about that, I'll splain...

Set 1 SBD (didn't circulate till 2019 and first couple songs are Audience patch, but a good Audience!) -
https://archive.org/details/gd1979-10-24.148162.s1.sbd.flac16

Set 2 SBD -
https://archive.org/details/gd1979-10-24.sbd.miller.97440.sbeok.flac16

New Source by GEMS popped up today of both sets, but I think Miller's are slight bit better on quick review -
https://archive.org/details/gd1979-10-24.151424.sbd.gems.flac16

Haven't looked on relisten yet.
Sorry if that's complicated.

DL played Scarlet > Fire on 30 Days 2019 btw.

PS - If you like Audience, this Audience is super fun, listen to them clapping during Scarlet.. it's almost like being there?
https://archive.org/details/gd79-10-24.senn.munder.13298.sbeok.shnf

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Hell yeah! I think I have made it known around these parts before, but Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods, period.

Looking forward to listening once school is done for the day! Only three more hours to go...

Peace

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Hey Teacher, Leave Those Kids Alone!

Couldn't resist.

This one's for you Otis.

Now if you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding!
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

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I listened to the first set, it's ok, nothing to really write home about. Garcia's guitar playing sounds good, Weir sounds into it, Garcia is having a little trouble with the lyrics, the drummers are popping. If I was there getting high I'm sure I would be having the time of my life, but I think there are much better shows in 1979 then this one, 2/17/79, 4/22/79 and all the year end shows at the Oakland Auditorium come to mind. What the the heck, if you dig it you dig it, if you don't you dont

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Ah ha! Objective listening skills, that's a good thing in a Dead Head.

Give that Set 2 a spin and I'll be interested to hear your take.

Honestly I can't remember much about this show, I just was checking it out to compare a new source that popped up.
First show on a hot tour.
I was hearing some X factor peaking out in that Scarlet > Fire.
Had to pause it up and attend to biz, but am looking forward to rest of Set 2.

But yeah, totally interested in hearing what peeps think.

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You know, I think Garcia"s guitar playing sounds great throughout this whole show. I like where he forgets the words in Terrapin and he plays over it for a bit then comes back to the singing when he remembers the words.. I'm not a big fan of audience tapes, so I'm sure I would enjoy this one more if it was a sounboard. I don't think if I was sitting around drinking beer and bbqing , that this show would be on the playlist even if it was a soundboard, like 12/26/79, and 12/28/79 would be. This show for me is a one and done.

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Kennedy assassination
Landing on the moon
Fall of the Berlin Wall
January 6, 2021

Keep up the good work here friends. I’ll return February 18th fifty years after being at the Capitol Theater.

I agree, this is not the place for politics.

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Looks like Source 6 of 7 updated November 20, 2019 is set 1
and Source 5 of 7 updated July 28, 2017 is set 2.

If that helps.

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Thanks Man.

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Dont forget the horrible station night club fire. Just Terrible.

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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Just felt like slipping that one in.

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Harold Macmillan, one of our mid-20 century Prime Ministers supposedly said ‘History dear boy, it’s just one damned thing after another’.

Lets repeat some good history today.. something old, something epic. Any takers?

Something our special guests will approve.

2/13 and 2/14/1970 perhaps? Or older, 9/3/67? Somebody please help and weigh in.

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Let's do this show, what a killer, from TIFTOO to VLB its just a stomper

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....what's wrong with Hard To Handle and Morning Dew? JK. You are correct.