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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

    David Lemieux
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    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • #821
    Vguy72
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    Meanwhile....

    ....AC/DC just put out a new record.
    My amp goes to 11.

  • #822
    icecrmcnkd
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    Steady supply of releases

    Yes dreading.

    Keep ‘em coming Dave and gang.

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    I own a music store business. I don't know if you're interested in the mechanics of business, but trust me when I say this business model is the absolute best way to ensure we, as fans, get a steady supply of 4 Dave's Picks a year, 1 or 2 box sets, and all of the special features like 50th anniversary editions that have incredible multi track concerts attached to them. Having stock of every release laying around for 10 years means they don't have budget for all the goodies I mentioned. It could mean the difference between 4 Dave's Picks a year and maybe only 2. Maybe only a box set every other year. Trust me on this. You have to move product to stay within budget, whether you're a small business or a segment of a large business like Warner. It's the same concept behind retail stores having periods of time where merchandise is available at a lower "Sale" price. They don't do that because they're nice. They do that to move product and stay in budget. Offering the series up as a subscription works for them because it allows them to project sales in the long term. They offer up the bonus disc to ensure they know exactly how big their core"Dead Base" is. The scales of supply and demand have a lot of factors involved, and the limited edition model plus the bonus disc incentive keeps them in business selling Grateful Dead music and us happy listening to it.

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    I don't know...is it a question of inappropriately feeling entitled? I see it as just wanting to know what's for sale so I can make a decision as to whether I want to buy it or not. I just don't get why they can't announce a shows date before its released, so that those as want it can buy it, and this as don't...don't. No other band I like does all this. It feels like I have to join some sort of club to get shows-and I am not by any means a joiner.

    On the vinyl front-Dicks Picks 26 is a mind blower. And I have only just realised that the encore for one of the shows-4/26/69-Viola Lee Blues-is included in The Phil Zone, but is not on Dicks Picks. Its only taken me 18 years..

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    Subs

    I doubt this will happen with the increased run, but you never know. If they sell a lot of subs they will pull the subs so that they have a few thousand to sell a la cart. Happened a couple years ago subs ended before the end of December.

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    Just so happens I still have the email announcements

    12-30-19

    We're thrilled to announce that we've just locked in Dave's Picks Vol. 34, the second release in the Dave's Picks series of 2020, and it's a mighty powerful show: the complete performance from June 23, 1974, at Miami's Jai-Alai Fronton.

    1-6-20

    This is it! There are only two days left to become a 2020 Dave's Picks subscriber. Subscriptions will come to end on Wednesday, January 8th at 11:59 PM PST.
    DAVE'S PICKS 2020 SUBSCRIPTION BENEFITS
    Four Limited Edition, Numbered Releases
    Dave's Picks 33: 10/29/77 Dekalb, IL
    Dave's Picks 34: 6/23/74 Miami, FL
    Dave's Picks 35 & 36 To Be Revealed!
    Highly Collectible Bonus Disc - nearly 80 minutes of music from 6/22/74

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    Thanks gentlemen, and I use that term loosely....

    Right, we're waiting for the subscriptions to close, THEN Dave will talk #38 and make those who failed to sub gnash their teeth. (He said "gnash"...) I'm perennially looking forward to something to look forward to, so if # 38 be epic, let it be known!

    Wilfred T: On the robot front, think about it. At least in fiction and movies, they DO make mistakes, often malevolent ones, and that's when the "fun" begins. Think about the problems the astronaut "Dave" had, once "Hal" didn't like what "Dave" was doing in 2001: A Space Odyssey. (Edit: Wait! "Dave"???)

    On the foot front, my first-ever broken bones, at age 63+, and with two elderly family members seemingly on the cusp of surviving covid, I ain't bitchin', though I've had to switch gears. Lots of reading and delving into the veritable pile of new music CDs on my coffee table.

    Carry on...

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    Nothing has changed with ala carte sales

    Except that they go on sale the day that the release is ‘released’ to the subscribers. Thus, an attempt to deflect the criticisms from some subscribers that happens with every release when people who buy ala carte receive their copy before some subscribers receive their copy.

    It doesn’t change demand. A hot show will sell out at the same rate whether the arbitrary day is a ‘pre-sale’ day or a ‘release’ day.

    It’s amazing how many people complain that they have been cheated, scammed, and/or mislead with these releases that they feel they are so rightfully entitled to, and how dare GD/Rhino/Dave do anything other than cater directly to these people.

    Failed or delayed delivery, damaged product, wrong resolution download, etc are legitimate complaints and should be promptly fixed by a competent customer service office (which Rhino apparently no longer has).
    But GD/Rhino does not have to apologize for setting the terms for which they sell their product.

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    No more pre orders

    Another under hand technique to manipulate people. Along with the early bird bribe, the bonus disc and the limited amount of discs available for stand alone orders. Liking so much of the music, its always tempting to go along with it. But its seems more tempting this year to wave two fingers at them, and opt out.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JukZBGgv8I

    Time to leap into a worthwhile memory...

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
October 2020

Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 17:17

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Sweet, yeah so I guess the Collection I have is from 2003 Criterion Collections (got em from the library).

Sounds like they've up their game for the 2017 & 2020 versions.

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 03:17

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That's an incredible clip - thanks for posting that. No wonder Jimi Hendrix burned his guitar having to follow that ! I'll go and have a look on Amazon and see if that 50th Anniversary is available here in England. Hopefully it is-and it would also be good if it included some Quicksilver.

I've just had a look, and I presume the blu ray 2017 release is the one with the Dead in it. Its a two disc set-but it doesn't mention The Dead in Amazons description of what's included.

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Submitted by musicnow on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 08:13

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Hey Proudfoot! I was at that show. Only have a copy on cassette. How did you get it on disc? I've been hoping for a release someday.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 08:34

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Philly 8-05-74...what a show...the China -> Rider melted my socks down...blasting on the headphones so my Honey won't say turn it down....Ha...thank you Charlie Miller...

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 08:39

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10-20-84 was released last November on the Bittorent sites by Charlie Miller...great sounding board...

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 09:24

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@DaveRock, I believe based on what I'm discovering (after Carlo13 turned me on to it) that the 2017 Monterey Blue Ray has a 9 minute edit of the Grateful Dead at Monterey Pop which they state was - "the entirety of what the film crew shot” according to the disc menu.

Good review of that collection in comparison to previous releases here - https://criterioncast.com/reviews/blu-ray-reviews/complete-monterey-pop…

But Carlo13 mentioned that the Blu Ray version states that there's a 15 minute version of their performance on this release, which he's currently waiting to receive.

@Carlo13, did I get that right? We're excited for you to get that puppy, but probably not as excited as you are :)

EDITED with some corrections provided by @Carlo 13.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 11:34

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It's kind of confusing but the 2017 50th anniversary blu-ray edition is 3 disk with the 15 min. version of viola. and there is no 2020 version. The most up to date one which does have quicksilver messenger service by the way Daverock, is the 2017- 3 disk box.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 12:07

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Thanks Man for the further clarification. I'm trying to get it right :)
They definitely make it hard to tell what's what.
I guess you'd need to do that to keep selling material that's been released multiple times since it's creation 53 years ago.

Speaking of...
Anybody on here have that 50th Anniversary Woodstock monster box?
Curious about that St. Stephen :)

Good Stuff.

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Submitted by cjm on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 05:34

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I've got that monster box. St. Stephen sounds typical for 1969 but it's very short because after the "wishing well" verse they transition very smoothly into Mama Tried, also well played. After that, it sounds to me like they're getting ready for High Time, but maybe not, I'm not too good at guessing these things, but instead there is 11 minutes of stage banter.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 06:43

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Thanks for the Info!

I'm curious if what was released has the small splice in the beginning of the Stephen track that seems to exist in all the circulating SBDs.

I've got the SBD but would love to compare what was released in the 50th collection and in particular St. Stephen.

Would love to get a copy of their set from that release if you want to trade.

I'm sure I'd have something cool to offer or lmk if you're looking for something in particular.

LMK if you'd be interested

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Submitted by pkb on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 08:02

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Any chance you can link this in a DM? I checked bt.etree.org and couldn't located it.

I just got the 2017 3-BluRay version and already had the 2009 2-BluRay version.
The 2009 version has an ‘Outtakes’ bonus material on the same disc as the main movie. It does not have Viola.
The 2017 version has the Outtakes separately on a third disc. It has Viola and it’s about 9 minutes long. The disc also has other bands that aren’t included in the 2009 Outtakes, but it seems to be snippets. Steve Miller was added, a total of 3-4 minutes, fragments of 2 songs.
Also added was 4 songs of Tiny Tim performed in the Green Room of the festival.

So, if you already have the 2009 version, the only real addition in the 2017 version that matters is Viola. And it’s pretty cool, but you can see it on YouTube.
If there is an audio upgrade, then that might be worth getting the 2017 version. Otherwise they, so far, seem almost the same.
I haven’t checked the movie yet, or Hendrix/Otis which is disc 2 of both releases.
A remastering to 4K video is meaningless compared to 1080p because the source film is not high res.
But, an audio upgrade of Hendrix, along with the addition of Viola, would make it worthwhile to get the 2017 version even if you have the 2009 version.
If you don’t have any version, then get the 2017 version. The movie is a great historical time capsule.

Checking the 2017 Outtakes disc menu:
Day 2: Steve Miller and Moby Grape were added.
Day 3: GD added.
Hunt Club added - this is the festival Green Room with Tiny Tim singing.

Just compared the video quality of The Byrds between the 2009 and 2017 versions and it looks identical.
Hopefully there is a noticeable audio upgrade of Hendrix, otherwise the 2017 version just seems like a cash grab.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 09:08

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who brought VLB to the GD.

A great jamming vehicle.

BWAAAAAAA!!!!!!....buh buh buh buhbuhbuh buh buh buh buuuh buh

:)))

Check out 11/10/67

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 11:20

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Bam, I'm hip now.
I think that's what I needed to know.

Hey I sent you a PM.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 13:36

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I should have clarified:

Which band member first said, "hey guys, we should do this song called Viola Lee Blues"

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 14:03

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It was probaly Jerry as I am sure from his earlier pickin' days he would've been aware of Gus Cannon's work which also included Minglewood, Big Railroad Blues etc

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 19:24

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Went to pick up 3 donuts today; I get to the counter, lady tells me the couple in front of me paid for a dozen donuts for me; didn't know them may never see them again. There are some very fine and kind people in this world.
In case you're wondering, it happened at Rolling Pin Delicious Donuts, in San Bruno, Ca. highly recommended if you're in the area. Donut ease me in.

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 19:57

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BROOOO ROLLING PIN = KING OF THE SOUTH BAY
Once every month I get me and my family a couple dozen donut holes they're literally the best

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 01/09/2021 - 22:26

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Ice cream confirmed the Monterey fiasco. 9 min. Viola. The new version has much less plastic packaging which is good. I would recommend buying the new version. The jimi hendrix motherlode is worth the entire purchase. Janis and big brother are almost too good to be true. Jimi playing wild thing almost brings tears to the eyes. I wish I could copy it for you but dont have the means.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 01/10/2021 - 04:48

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maybe naps took care of you, but here is a copy

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 01/10/2021 - 06:29

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Thanks Man, I'm glad you got it!

Yeah, I'd say Janis and Jimi and The Who stole the show, maybe throw Ravi & Otis in there as well.

The event that made Pop into Rock

I really enjoy the included audio commentary and the 1987 Pete Townsend interview.

Some day I'll see those fully restored nine minutes until then there's always YouTube.

I'll either have to decide to step up to BluRay or get invited to a Monterey Pop viewing party ;)

But big thanks to you and ConeKid for letting me know exactly what's out there, because I've been curious about that for awhile!

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Sun, 01/10/2021 - 07:21

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You can also do a 1 week free trial to the the Criterion channel(Roku has it), the extended Monterey is in there; along with some great other flicks.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 01/10/2021 - 11:01

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Going off memory from when I last saw it, Country Joe and the Fish were the trippiest. Not much doubt that the doors of perception were open there.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 01/10/2021 - 11:34

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Hopefully Dave & co. will release a stand alone release this year like the two acoustic Warfield shows, or 4/18/70 Family Dog show they released a couple of years ago. I would like to see 6/27/69 or 10/31/69 released as stand alone releases, both cool shows.

This live footage of the Dead from Monterey is Sweet!

By far the best live footage available of the band from this year.
(Not saying that much as there's very little)

Had YouTube stuff for years but quality is rough. The official release quality is the best yet. (duh)

Big Thanks to Carlo13, IceCrmCnKd & Cousins Of The… for letting me know about this source.

Free trial at the Criterion Channel recommended.
Check out the boys in this formative stage of their career if you're into that kind of stuff.
And if not.. well?!?!

Plus you can watch all of the Monterey Pop Festival and bonus stuff.

Way Stoked!!

You all rock, made my day, keep up the good work.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 01/11/2021 - 00:13

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Proudfoot, they play a great version of Golden Road on 3/18/67 at Winterland, they only played it live 3 times. 3/18/67 is a great show and I would think a great release. Great copy on the Archive.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 01/11/2021 - 07:25

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Pretty sure the 5/5/67 date is incorrect.
I believe it's being attributed to 9/29/67 Straight Theater at this point.
There's some pretty dope blog posts about this tape and the dating of it at DeadEssays blog (I think?)

So we've got the 3/18/67 version and the thought to be 9/29/67 version.. which would make it plausible that this song got a bunch more plays than we have on tape.
1967 is a black hole for tapes.
Most under represented year?

Just goes to show how important Bear's role was in recording the Dead.
I think we can thank him as the reason we're all here today.
Thanks Bear!

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 01/11/2021 - 08:35

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I think "Same Thing" with Pig on vocals is on So Many Roads set -- excellent sound, do I recall Jer on slide?

Let's have it!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 01/11/2021 - 09:40

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the disc i have (labelled 5/5/67) has The Golden Road into New Potato Caboose (with Bobby saying at the start of NPC something like, "this one's for Lahklin")

"everybody say, 'PRIMATE'!"

9/29/67 I recall Mickey saying it was his first show with them, and "we really did play Alligator for 2 hours!"

That's my memory, at least

Yeah, you'd probably dig the thinking behind dating that show as 9/29/67.

A lot of the thought process is based on that comment by Bob and the Dance, Dance, Dance comment.

It's kinda fascinating to a geek like me.

I'll have to look for the link.
* "I'll tell you exactly what's going on up here so nobody has to wonder anymore." - Jerry
"Lay it on me." - Bob
"We're Stalling.." - Jerry
* My favorite banter ever.

In the meantime 3/18/67 is always worth listening to again!

Enjoy :)

EDIT - Links -
DeadEssays - http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2018/06/1967-show-list.html
Here's what they say -
This tape circulates dated “5/5/67;” there is one drummer. Deadbase 50 suggests this tape comes from 6/15/67, but 9/29 is the likeliest date: Weir dedicates a song to (Chandler) Laughlin, who’d just gotten out of prison on a drug bust and been hired as a DJ by KMPX; Weir also alludes to the ‘drop out and dance’ poster.

That links to LIA's research in regards to this show and their comments are here -
http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2009/08/1967-dead-tapes.html?showComment…

IMO LIA's research and logic is solid, dude is my hero. So thorough.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 01/11/2021 - 10:40

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9/29/67

I was 3.5 year old boy somewhere in the Midwest.

TOTALLY oblivious to the GD, of course.

2/25/66 (labelled as such) happened when I was TWO freakin' years old.

Wow.

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Mon, 01/11/2021 - 20:16

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Anyone have any idea for when they'll begin shipping this for pre-orders? Just curious cause dead net = snail mail at this point. Other than that, we REALLY need an Ark Box Set *love the Viola Lee from 4/21* and MUCH LOVE!

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