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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • #711
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    Re: Gretsch 64

    I think with the right writing we could turn this into a hit miniseries. We might have to clean up the language around the f-hole discussion.. or we could get the guys from South Park involved and just go with it.

    Edit: Woody Harrelson as HendrixFreak? Vin Diesel??

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    F holes

    Lol

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    Gretsch 64

    Sounds like a humdinger ! Mine are Japanese reissues that I got second hand trading in other guitars. They sound tremendous-but they aren't easiest guitars to play either. Not for widdling at the 15th fret anyway. They do like to fight back. Even changing the strings is a work of art-I need both hands, a foot and my chin. Well worth the effort, though.

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    RFK Stadium 6/10/73

    Taper's section has a few songs today from this unreleased show. I still have my hopes up for this to be let out of the vault someday.

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    The Gretsch story....

    You might well wonder what a poor boy like me is doing with a 1964 Gretsch 6120... if it was perfect, it'd be worth many thousands. Alas it is not, but the tone is so vintage and so cool that I ended up with the righteous end of a bargain. Here's the short story on how I came to possess it.

    Co-worker sees me playing my acoustic on lunch break, as I picked up the guitar for the first time about a dozen years ago. She says her husband's brother passed away, left a closet of stuff, including a guitar. Could I find out what it is and what it's worth? Inside the original case sits this unplayable, heavily altered Gretsch. I look it up. Take it to a luthier. The original tuning pegs were swapped out. The original pickups replaced by Fender soapbars. The "kill" switch is disconnected. The scratch plate is missing. And the former owner had -- very carefully -- cut out the painted f-holes so that this beast had become a true hollow body. But the Bigsby tailpiece is intact and original. Neck in excellent shape. Not worth much in that state. Guesstimate of $1000 to make it playable but too expensive to fully restore and the f-holes could never be restored. Maybe worth $1000, as is.

    I tell my co-worker the info I'd gleaned. I instinctively knew this guitar could sound killer, so I offered her $1000 and said I'd invest $1000 to make it playable. And that once it was playable, I'd treasure it til the end of my days. It was mine. I put in the $1000 and my luthier restored vintage/remake Gretsch pickups, ensured that tone and volume pots worked and reinstalled a new Gretsch pickguard. I traded the original case for most of that work. I didn't need or want a "collectible," I wanted that vintage tone!

    Frankly, at first, it was a difficult guitar to play, as I'd just started developing technique. Over the past 10 years though, I've managed to get good enough to play rhythm, lead and fingerpick on that baby. The cut-out f-holes create a feedback hazard/opportunity. If one punches a boost pedal (I use a Tube Screamer) and/or add wah and turn the guitar and its open f-holes towards my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe tube amp, this thing starts to roar like a jet plane and that ... sound .... can be manipulated, of course. So this beast is fun and dangerous and a prized instrument to own and play.

    I could care less what it might be "worth," because this Rube Goldberg-son-of-a-gun is as close as I'll ever get to a full-on Gretsch 6120. I've got the tone of a rare and otherwise unobtainable instrument.

    Yeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you catch my drift.

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    fwiw

    yesterday I stop to get gas while listening to 11/3/84

    the pump stops at 19.84

    I get in the car, and the clock reads 11:03

    hmm...

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    Nice collection!

    Hendrixfreak- but the 1964 6120 Gretsch would be the pick of the crop for me. Beautiful guitars - mine-I got a duo jet as well as the one pictured - sound superb. I am very ham fisted, but the response from the bass strings is amazing if I can put a run together using a thumb and finger pick. A fender champ and Memphis Sun Delay pedal completes the picture. I'm getting a quiff on just thinking about it.
    The one I play most though is a steel bodied National tuned to Open G or D and played with a brass or glass bottleneck.

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    Re: Apogee

    You have an excellent memory HF. I do remember that conversation, it was hilarious. It's sort of got a religious spin to it, and I have never let my mashed potatoes touch my pork chops again.. why risk it, they could be right.

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    I’m still going with Kezar 73...probably lives near the top of many’s wish list, would probably fit right, and it’s a ABCD return...gotta say I’m down with a fall 72 box if/when we’re given the chance!

    EDIT: mashed taters/pork chops?? Bummer, I missed out on that, that sounds like some Seinfeld shit!

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    Geek speak and the return of Carl

    Yaaasssss beerrryy interesting!
    Just to be clear, I was only critiquing a certain statement, not what era someone considers best. I would never consider doing that. And forced to do so, I’d probably pick that tour as the pinnacle though I think they had several over the years.
    I’m torn about his sound as those Alembic modified Tube only powered Twin Reverbs, slightly pushed into overdrive is pure, glorious, old school R&R at its finest. I can picture Doc drooling at the thought. But the same Twin with the pre out into the Mc2300 was a perfect paring with 3 or 4 JBL K then later E series speakers. I had this same set up BITD (unfortunately I couldn’t play for shit lol) you could get that shit loud and clean or just the right touch of distortion. Heavy ass rig to truck though, aaaaa the hubris of youth! Like who the fuck would do all that for bar gigs lol.
    So I can’t pick a best JG sound, I like both a lot, but I agree that E72 was a top era for he and the band!

    HF, I never liked or understood having to have so many axes on stage. I know Keef does a lot of weird tunings but still...that’s part of what I was saying was give JG damn near anything, and he still can get a good sound. Think of that video BTK showed us from the Sweetwater with Sammy Hagar et el. Or I saw some Latin music awards or show or something from probably the nineties? He has his guitar but plugs into like Los Lobos or ? but just a basic rig or something and he just rips! I never liked taking more than 1 axe, sometimes I’d have to take 2; one electric bass, one acoustic electric bass only cause the music needed it...

    JIM; hhmmmmmmm the grenades definitely have potential, just not sure how the damn HOA would feel about it?
    As much as I’d probably enjoy the flame thrower better, and it would be gentler on the old hearing than the explosives, I think we already get enough fire around these parts ; ) I can’t remember the name, but I researched the perfect water pistol; long, accurate range, with enough power to get their attention but not enough to kill em, with no leakage, something I guess that is a problem with many water guns.....but unfortunately it’s several hundred dollars for one on the black market....hey, just had a thought! Perhaps Bolo has access to some high end black ops gear? Aaaaa, of course then he’d probably have to kill us?

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
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Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

It’s difficult to know when pre-orders will be sent out. My unreliable memory tells me that dead.net said they had changed their system and would be sending pre-orders out ahead of the release date and I think a few lucky people got #36 before the release date. Previously, the sets weren’t sent out until the release date itself (29 Jan).
The rate determining step isn’t the dispatch it’s the delivery handling. I got an email telling me that #36 had been sent, but in reality it didn’t move for another 7 days and took a lot longer to get to me. I, at least, was lucky enough to get the delivery. I believe a few people are still waiting. Of course, times are strange at the moment so glitches in the systems must be expected. I’m confident it will be worth the wait.

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Submitted by musicnow on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 07:43

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Ark! Ark! I've been wishing for that release for a while, much like most here I'm sure. Here's to a miracle!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 07:45

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I'll call your unreliable memory and

What were we talking about? ah... 1/13 and 1/14/1970, The Grateful Goddamn Dead.. (oops, I got ahead of my skis. I'm a month early for the FE shows, either that or I have a very rotten memory)

Ark Ark.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 09:13

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I have the greatest memory in the history of humanity. Of course, I can prove this by letting you all know that......the tea cart I used to have is, Could I please have extra cheese on that, I need to know what the GVWR on that vehicle is, how many limbs are there in a box of Devonshire pub malt liquor, excuse me, I was talking here, Tuesday is the name of my nike shoes. I would like to pick up my order at 3:33, check on the hog all purple.

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:53

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They used to say that smoking led to memory loss. It wasn't all good news - there were supposed to be negative side effects as well. But I can't remember what they were.

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 09:02

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1) I think it's safe to say that if we don't receive a shipping confirmation by next week same time then it is safe to assume that DaP 37 will come out around the time or after the official release (1/29), which is a bit disappointing but not the end of the world

2) IDK what happened but it seems like every other person here had an issue with DaP 36, myself only receiving it in the latter half of December. However, as Dennis pointed out, paying for a download and not even being able to download it is a travesty in and of itself. Let's hope this year we can at least get a more consistent and smoother rollout of their products, especially with a box set down the line this year

3) Ark box set seems criminally late considering how great some of the recordings on the archive are. I'm also curious as to whether we'll see a Vince era release sometime this year. By this point in the DiP series, we had 3 seperate Vince Era shows (DiP 9, 17 & 27) which are all excellent shows from excellent tours. Same goes for the Road Trips (Vol 2 No 1 & Vol 2 No 4) and Download Series (11). Maybe they seem to think that with the standalone release of 6/17/91 and Ready or Not that they don't need to delve further into this era but some shows are just bananas, my personal highlights being shows such as 12/12/90 (just awesome), 9/22/91 (killer shakedown), 5/5/91 (H>S>F), and 3/17/93 (First Lucy in the Sky). Something from '91 would be really appreciated by me personally.

Anyways, thanks for listening to my TedTalk

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 10:13

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12/16/92

quite a contrast to 3/18/67

working from home has given me the chance to listen to a lot of GD (albeit usually on lower volume...c'est la vie).

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:39

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is "sold out." See the Store page.

That's a first, no? And has anyone heard Dave say what number of subs are available versus ala carte?

Not important, just curious, as always.

Lookin' for that fall '72 box preorder sometime in May. When it is warm and many have been vaccinated. Gotta have something to look forward to!

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Submitted by simonrob on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:52

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As Colin Gould said some 70 posts back:

"Every year people come on and ask why the subscription button doesn’t work. This is because they have missed the deadline. If you want to subscribe for the 2021 DaP series then you have until 11:59PM PST Friday 8th January."

I always thought that was something of a self fulfilling prophecy. In fact, I seem to remember eating more crap in my early drinking days than when I smoked-late night curries and all that. Maybe a difference in American and British stoner culture.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 06:08

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Alcohol gives you the munchies more than weed for sure. Ever checked out that open till 3 am college convenience store after the bars close? If you look closely you can sometimes see drunk college students taking that radioactive nacho cheese sauce intravenously... including the pickled jalapenos.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 08:52

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After going whole-hog on the Dead for a while before the holidays, I'm taking a little break. I started a "serious" run-through of the entire Spring '90, so will pick that up again when I resume my GD listening. Boy, those shows were well-recorded, and the band was ON. I have also decided to try some streaming, so have trial memberships going in Qobuz and Tidal Hi-Fi. Man, a fledgling Deadhead could sure do worse than to pay $150/year to stream EVERY GD release in CD (or better) quality. :-O

So I'll present a Last Five Listened To, and a Last Five Read

Listened To:
Bach--Violin Sonatas and Partitias; Christian Tetzlaff
Shostakovich String Quartets--Pacifica Quartet
Debussy Solo Piano Works--Jean-Efflam Bavouzet
Joni Mitchell--Archives, Vol. 1: The Early Years
Anthony Braxton--Three Compositions in New Jazz

Last Five Read:
All the Light We Cannot See--Anthony Doerr
Their Eyes Were Watching God--Zora Neale Hurston
The God of Small Things--Arundhati Roy
The Kitchen God's Wife--Amy Tan
American Gods--Neil Gaiman (hmmm . . . don't know why so many "God" books!)

Currently working on Anti-Intellectualism in American Life by Richard Hofstadter (written in 1963!) and Thomas Pynchon's novel V. I think that latter book was recommended by someone here. I may abandon it if I don't start "getting it" soon.

Be well, do good work, and keep in touch . . .

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Submitted by unkle sam on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 08:53

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RIP as another one of my heroes leaves us. Vanilla Fudge, Cactus and Beck, Bogart and Appice. Met him once when he was with Cactus, very cool guy and had a wicked sense of humor.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 09:06

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so many odd things going on
started in 2020
but daily, weird and terrible and great things are happening
twas ever thus I suppose
but man

if you have an idle 3 hours, I will tell you all about it

GD at the moment: RT 79 disc 2

"do everything that's in you, you feel to be your part"

Injecting anything you don't have to on the basis of medical advice is insane. There were people round here injecting alcohol a while back. I heard of someone suggesting injecting disinfectant last year, too. Crazy.

Reminds me of my old joke about the man injecting curry powder. I went round to help, but by the time I got there it was too late-he had already gone into a korma (coma). Sorry if you've heard it before.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 11:07

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Boogie With Canned Heat
Green Line-Steve Marcus
Laughing Stock-Talk Talk
Blue World-John Coltrane
Electric Tonic-Medeski, Martin & Wood

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 12:04

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So does anyone have info on whether 4/4, 4/5, and/or 4/6 are in the Vault?

Looks like a wild three nights and only a month after the Live/Dead shows.

I guess we'll know in two weeks if Dave L. will tease anything about this year's goodies when he goes superlative over the upcoming April '78 show. (As you well know) I'm betting on a (6) show box from fall '72, 18 discs, $200.

Where do I get these detailed fantasies? C'mon, bein' a shut-in for 10 months tends to hatch all kinds of ideas.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 13:32

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Nothing surprises me anymore. Remember a few years ago when kids thought it was cool to eat laundry detergent?

Then came the alcohol enema. Becasue of course, the whole point is not to socialize with friends and loosen up a bit, its to proceed straight to blackout drunk as quickly as possible, and the upshot must be that you already have your pants down.

Its not a big leap to mainlining some mushrooms. I prefer shiitakes myself. After all, who has 45 minutes to wait for the drugs to come on? We are truly in the age of instant gratification.

Daverock, great one! That's V-guy worthy. 🤣

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 10:51

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Another great under the radar player. Saw him at my first Bobby show: Bobby and the Midnights at the infamous Kleinhans Music hall on Election Day 1980....still have newspaper clipping with headline “Weir Wins by a landslide”..
Besides his personal talents, Jeff Beck has always had a knack for finding awesome Bass Players!

As far as weird drug fetishes,I’ll stick with Ibogaine ; )

EDIT: Slow Dog, once again you’ve made me laugh and smile! Thanks!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:07

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Okeefe centre
8 4 67
8 5 67

Only a few GD tracks, but they are niiiiice

The discs I have also have Jefferson Airplane

After psychedelijizzin' with the GD, JA sounds lame. Just saying.

Addendum at 9
JA i do like bless its pointed little head
And most of JA takes off
and Baxters

Jorma and Jack were kkeeyy to their sound

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 20:07

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I believe the two partial shows were the first segments I pulled down from archive.org when I first stumbled upon it. I forget the reason, I think someone was hyping this.. perhaps Gans, I forget. The subject matter I remember.. the growth during this period and their ability to improvise. How different these shows were compared to their last.. and how rewarding the risks they were taking musically turned out to be.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 04:11

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Talking of hot 67...the above's concert at The Roundhouse was on television over Christmas, and I got round to watching it last night. I was at this show, and loved it to pieces, but I wasn't sure how well it would translate to a recording. I needn't have worried. It opens with an incredible sonic punch-Interstellar Overdrive-Astronomy Domine-Lucifer Sam. The kind of mad clatter that Pink Floyd jettisoned as the 70s wore on, all powered along by Nick Mason's high energy drumming. It sounds amazing. Looks as though its available on blu ray/dvd/cd, too.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 07:17

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Jorma turned 80 less than a month ago. These guys are true monsters. Saw them back in the '70s and ;pretty much every opportunity for the next 45 years. No idea how many shows, probably in the dozens. Lifers. Them and me (in a small way). Jack would actually leave the ground at times during their sets. When they got into their hard core electric jams, they still had the goods. True masters at acoustic and electric blues and rock idioms.

I had tickets for my other two favorite working bands -- Los Lobos and Tedeschi and Trucks -- but, well, you know.

Okay, lost my focus on the future for a moment, thinking back to nearly one year ago when Jack and Jorma rocked the Boulder Theater. Now looking forward again, won't mention "2020" ......

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 17:24

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Completely agree.. these guys are the real deal.

I forget the first time I saw Hot Tuna, but it was not in the '70's.. these guys are the real deal and every time I have seen them has been more than worth the effort. Add in NRPS and you have a nearly perfect trifecta of great bands you must see perform live.

Especially Jorma, they guy can pick.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 17:43

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guested on 11 20 70

I am not a big fan of guests with the GD, but 11 20 70 is an exception

Check out Fat Angel on Blessitspointedlittlehead

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