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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • proudfoot
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    one slight relocation of a letter, and you have a completely different meaning.

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    wait, is this the Jeopardy board?

    Are you now, or have you ever been a robot?

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    Giving the release a first, casual listen. Using When Push Comes to Shove to get me mentally settled in for a date tonight.... been quite a few years since I've done this!

    So a closer listen will have to wait until the weekend (but I did catch a perfectly placed Phil bomb in Row Jimmy).

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    ....you make an excellent point; I see what you did there.

    We'll need to get Jimmy's word on this once he has consumed the sauce and reports back.

    Sixtus

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    So this is an audience recording made at the mixing board instead of the taper’s section?

  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    I had a chance to listen to the first show through my stereo system last night. Usually I listen through headphones, so it was harder to gauge the sound quality, but i still got a good handle on the show overall.

    Midnight Hour - Great surprise to open the show and the crowd loved it. According to Deadbase they played this about 30 times, with half from 66-71 and the other half scattered about from -'82-'93, but 7 times in '85. Bobby gets the vocal chords stretched out early.

    Cold Rain - The crowd is clearly pumped to see and hear Jerry and he gets a big cheer for his first tune and his first and second solos. This is one of my favorites and its well played.

    CC Rider - In the standard position. I can hear Phil's bass well and Brent has a nice solo about halfway in. The energy level is still up until

    Row Jimmy - kid of plods. I was never a huge fan of this tune, but its pretty well played.

    Esau/Push Comes to Shove - gets the crowd back into it. Two newer tunes both played well and the energy level rebounds. Jerry has to nail the lyrics on PCtS for a good version, and he does it pretty well here. Not as good a version as 7-12-87, which is the best i've heard them play the tune. Always great to hear Esau.

    Desolation Row - Well played and sung and it moves by pretty fast given how many words are in it. For my money, no version will ever touch the Dylan studio cut, with Bloomfield's fills and Dylan's delivery, but Bobby does the tune justice.

    Bird Song - Nice jamming here. Solid non-72 Bird Song.

    Promised Land - Promised Land is Promised Land.

    I got a beer and took a wiz during set break. No lines was nice. The dog was in my seat but I asked him nicely and he moved.

    China/Rider - Always welcome. I prefer '73-'74 but this was nice and smooth.

    LLR - I really like this tune and this version stood out to me. The pace was a little faster than usual and the song was very well played. Good solos. Good bobby vocal embellishments.

    He's Gone - Crowd was into this one. Nice placement and playing.

    Drums -> Space - Drums was pretty uneventful for the first half. I can get into a good drums but this one didn't really do it for me, at least until the second half. Space was perfunctory.

    Miracle - Well played. Short and to the point.

    Black Peter - Crowd was into this one, along with He's Gone the crowd was feeling this, given Jerry's comeback. Always nice to hear this tune in place of Warf Rat or Stella.

    Around/Good Lovin - Double dose of Bobby to close out the second set. Good energy and playing.

    Quinn - Great encore.

    I think the crowd noise really added to the good vibe of the show. The more I hear '87 the more i like it. I'm happy to have this show. Ill revisit along with the Giant's stadium show and the Sept 18 MSG 30 trips show.

    Show packaging is nice. The 4th disk has a proper home. They didn't try to jam the disc in the usual format Dave's picks - they redesigned it for 4 discs. One might expect this, but given some of the customer service snags we've seen over the years, it wasn't a guarantee. Solid late 80s Hartford hippy pics and a Lemieux narrative rounds out the accotrements. And I suppose i'd be remiss to not mention the pic of the 3-26 setlist at the end of the booklet, which I hope was scribbled by an offspring of the band or crew, but fear could be the handiwork of one of the band members themselves.

    On to 3-27!

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    I do a lot of audio recording and post-show mixing for a live band, and I'd like to respond to a few comments about the audio. One person said with certainty that unrelated audience noise was patched-in (like a laugh track - LOL), others not happy that the audience noise is so high.

    I can tell you that it's not that easy to manipulate the audience noise itself. I haven't gotten the release so I haven't read the liner notes, but I'm guessing they "matrixed" this mix from the soundboard and a separate audience taper recording. "Matrix" means they sync up the two recordings so you get the best qualities of both recordings. Soundboards tend to have great vocals, keys and drums, but the recordings tend to be very bland, with keys and vocals much higher in the mix (since the guitars' stage amps are already blaring). But when you add in the audience recording to balance out the instruments (pulling the guitars forward in the mix and adding room ambience), you're necessarily adding audience noise as well... you can't suppress it.

    The exception to the "soundboards usually don't sound great" is, of course, Betty's mixes from the 70's, but that's because she was NOT mixing the room sound/PA. Her husband was doing that. Betty ran a parallel board and mixed to the headphones only, balancing the instruments perfectly and then adding reverb to make it sound like a big hall (listen to Cornell where she admits she was a little generous with the reverb - think Jerry's vocals on Scarlet>Fire).

    The 80's recordings didn't have the benefit of Betty's parallel board, which is why 80's sbd's by themselves generally sound, um.... "not as good as the 70's Betty shows". (Spacebro may disagree, which is fine - respect)

    So basically the point is that the audience is likely that loud because they were focused on balancing the sources to get the music (regardless of the audience bleed thru) sounding as presentable as possible. I agree that made the audience a little louder then I'd like - kinda distracting. This is why we should all say a little thank you to Betty Cantor Jackson every night before we go to bed.

    EDIT - I just re-read JimInMD's comment. He said Healy would use an audience mic and add that to the room mix DURING the show... I may be wrong Jim but my understanding is that the matrix (or "ultramix") recordings were created after the show so they didn't sound like sh__ on playback. I'd be shocked if they were feeding the audience mics back into the PA - that would invite feedback, echo, and time-blur headaches. But I could be wrong.

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  • Oroborous
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    A true matrix is using a soundboard recording and a mic recording and blending them to compensate for the inherent idiosyncrasies in both. If it’s done well it’s awesome, if not.....

  • DeadAreMyDealers
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    When you say a "PA recording…

    When you say a "PA recording" does that mean Healy recorded the sound coming over-the-air just like any taper? It does sound that way. Why would he do that if he was at the soundboard and could have just recorded the mix directly and then patch in the audience levels to his liking?

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Yes.. you are not losing your mind.. there must have been an error or mishap at some point in the supply chain and there apparently more than a few who have not received their DaP 36's yet. My guess is that they are having more made.

Send a PM to MaryE. That's probably your best advice. I bet they make you whole hopefully soon.

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I too have not received my DaP36. I had an address change, notified customer service a month+ ago that I hadn't received it. Still nothing. Any help appreciated (Marye?)

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Happy New Year everyone.

I once received the Treasure Trove of soundboards from one of the good guys here, and there was so much on it and I had so many commercial releases to still go through that it took me a long time to really get into them.

Then a couple of years ago, I don't know if you remember a guy on here known as wjonjd - he used to be a regular but I guess has moved on. Anyway, he once wrote the following to me about 12/31/72, which I just dug out of email archives by doing a search on the show date:

The Truckin'-Other One-Morning Dew sequence has to be one of the greatest jams of absolute all time. Simply fuckin' mind blowing. I remember turning on someone to the Dead in school, lending him that tape. A couple of days later he asked me, "Where does that come from? Where do you think the inspiration to keep creating like that comes from?"

So of course I immediately queued it up, and what I wouldn't do to have a Full Norman copy of the show. It's been my favorite New Year's Eve show ever since, with Cow Palace '76 coming in as a close second.

Since DaP36 only tied the DP series, shouldn't DaP37 be celebrated as much as #36 since it's the tie-breaker?

What about a mirror image release?

DaP36 = 4 CDs / 2 shows / '87 = '78 \ 2 shows \ 4 CDs = DaP37...in the video for #37, Dave L. seemed to be unusually vague and a little giddy as far as the bonus material. It would be a great way to start the 10th year!

Or has this been announced already? If so sorry.

I hope all are well.

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Yes, KF.. Wonjonjd was last seen digging a tunnel 37 feet below the vault in a last ditch, vain attempt to free the master reels for 6/9&10/73 RFK. On the bright side, I hear ZuckFun has escaped and is laying low in an undisclosed location. Many thanks to whoever freed him.

Rumor has it wjon has been enslaved by Rhino and answers customer service calls 19 hours a day.

Sad. Someone needs to tell his wife and kids his hardship was not in vain.

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Surprise appearance of Tom Constanten as an interviewee in the documentary "Rebirth of the King" about Elvis Presley in Las Vegas. Again shown on Brit T.V. over Christmas.

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DaveStrange - The "mirror image" release for #37 won't happen, because the bonus disc is for the second release of the year, which will be #38 ( 9/8/73 Nassau Coliseum). The extra material is an hour + from the previous night, Sept. 9th. I listened to my audience recording of that show the day before they announced what #38 was going to contain, and it's a stellar show!

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I think it would be similar to last year: #s 33 & 35 were 3 disc releases, #34 had the bonus disc and #36 was 2 shows. This year could be #37 is 2 shows, #38 would have the bonus disc, and #s 39 & 40 would be 3 disc releases.

I realize this would only occur for milestone releases like #s 36 & 37, and in the future for DaP100 (!) if the series is still going. I know the odds for another 2 show release are mighty slim, but you can always hope, wish and dream right?

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With about 90 min from another show on this tour, likely to be announced in the video, which should come out around next Friday or thereabouts. Glad there's filler, been annoyed at 2 of the '78 DaPs having very short 2nd discs and no filler, with plenty of good material laying there for use. But filler is also very good because it sometimes produces some of the best material of a release. I just finished my first complete listen to DaP 35 and I'm very thankful for the filler from the night before. I found it to be the best part of the release, the Scarlet Fire was good, too, but the filler is pretty darn good. Being a beggar does prevent me from being a chooser as well as I'm hoping the filler on DaP 37 is not from 4/12/78, which was surely the best thing to ever happen in that pit of hell Cameron Indoor Stadium, and that that show is released in its entireity since I imagine it was part of the returned Bettys. That should be several years worth of DaPs down the road before hitting April '78 again, 3 is pretty high already and no Fall 1972 since DaP 11 and Hofheinz were released in 2014, but hope that Duke show can come out sometime, it is spectacular. Incredible energy, as evidenced in the video on the youtubes https://youtu.be/I_zD1_J5eYs Not every day you see Jerry doing Townshend-like windmills. Though if anybody else witnessed Jerry doing windmills at other shows, I'd love to hear about it.

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:'(

On Vol 35 they printed my address and phone number wrong... only got that one b/c I happened to run into the mailman wandering in the neighborhood looking for where to deliver it (I'm a westerner in China.. and he wandered up to me asking if I knew the person with the foreign name...). He said it was the third time they sent him out to deliver it...

I know it's old hat to complain about their shipping services.. but come on guys...

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Does anyone know why I have received another copy of Dave's 36? It arrived in the mail yesterday with no shipping notification. On the back of it, where the edition numbers are usually listed, it says "Hindsight is 2020 limited edition: 92/300". I haven't actually listened to it yet but it looks exactly the same as the first one I got.

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I’m running out of patience after emailing four or five different email addresses (Dr. Rhino, wig, etc.) for the past five months now about a missing Dave’s 36. I have yet to even receive a “we received your email.” But yet they are allowed to continue selling product? Any ideas on how I can rectify this?

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I received mine Friday from the 300 run. I am really enjoying this right now, as times have been tough, and the matrix sound I like. The mix has brought my spirit up, so I won't dwell on the service. Billfgrady it was sent without notice, so you should be getting yours any day.

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I finally got to listen to the first show (yeah, I'm way late, I know). I was floored! Once you get past the obligatory 80's fodder like "Push Comes To Shove" and "My Brother Esau", it is SOLID throughout. Even Looks Like Rain is tolerable. Gee, who knew? As always, go Brent!

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