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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1461
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    Refresh & Vikings

    I need to hit refresh before I post..

    I had not read OB's post when I referenced Vikings Fan. I didn't mean to be contrary regarding that show, but re-reading both, I don't think we were that far off. Perhaps I have a bit of nostalgia for this as it was one of the early Dicks Picks (#10 I think), and I got this before I accidentally overdosed on '77. Must have had too much too fast.

    Anyway, I think all is pretty much ok with the world. I have to admit I am not the most careful poster, sometimes we just post what we are feeling at the moment. I still have a bit of ketchup to do but I am making progress.

    Note to self, top off the tank in dad's car when you borrow it to see shows and drive young attractive hipsters all over gods creation in search of good times and good tunes. Sorry Dad!

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    What do you mean…

    …I’m not a fan!
    I bet I been somewhat of a VIKS fan since before you were born lol.
    Back in the sixties I was a huge Alan Page fan #88.
    Like Ralphy with his Red Ryder I wanted nothing more than the Super Bowl addition Chefs Vikings electric football set.
    And though the VIKS lost the SB, they always won on my game!
    Good I loved that toy, wonder what happened too it, must of been traumatic lol.

    Glad to hear BCs mending and Jim’s feeling more like his ole self. Sure some winter activities will help that when applicable. Hopefully DV got the snow rake and has that roof all cleared off.

    Cumberland: one time headquarters of G Washington himself.
    That first step at lovers leap looks like a real doozie!

    12/19/69: think I might sneak that one in today, perhaps start 2/21/82 or hit mañana if the situation allows.

    Ok, back into the mine, just needed to poke my head out for a sec…
    ONWARD

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    Glad im nit a colts fan

    33 point lead blown

    Imagine the locker room after...the flight home...

    At least it wasnt a super bowl, colters

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    Looking at 2/21/82 Pauly Pavilion for today. I don't think we have hit this one yet.

    Jim, I don't think OB is a Vikings fan, at least not yet.

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    ...and who doesn't love a good Cumberland? Truth be told, I lived in the city of Cumberland for a few months at some point in the 80's. It was cheap and I was poor boy struggling to finish my undergrad. It cost me $250 to split a house for the semester. Make good money five dollars a day.....

    I learned how to rock climb in a little crag off Wills Creek at a spot called Lovers Leap. Another fine Cumberland memory. It's worth a google search, a little Appalachian folklore, and a real pretty spot worth pulling off the freeway as you drive by. The original story of Lovers Leap appeared in the Cumberland Evening Times May 18th, 1881. An Appalachian coal town if ever there was one.

    As for 12/19, I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first of the acoustic sets that would become standard the following year. I'm digging into it as I write this. Y'all be good.

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    an interesting story

    thanks Doc for shining a light on another fine sixty-nine show!! anything acoustic, especially those early days is to be treasured. magic afoot.

    also, a belated thank you for that fun oddity contest with 12/2/71. A new-to-me awesome show and always fun to try solve a puzzle. I will admit that the Brokedown/Black Peter oddity was something that I probably wouldn't have gotten in 100 years, but how did I miss that Smokestack/Lovelight??

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    Space is to place as eternity is to time……..

    Fine early morning, rockers!!

    Pick Of The Day: Fillmore Auditorium, December 19 1969

    I think the universe is pure geometry - basically, a beautiful shape twisting around and dancing over space-time. Sorta like the Grateful Dead……

    Because Phil is stuck somewhere, Garcia and Bobby Ace regale ya with some old favorites, as once the tall skinny fella arrives they’ll play loud and all that. Who could complain about Monkey And The Engineer-Little Sadie-Long Black Limousine-I've Been All Around This World---before we get to the twisted electric journey through musical space-time?!!

    And such a journey!! Something for all tastes---rockin’, rare Mason’s, soulful Black Peter, greasy Hard To Handle, Bobby Ace trying to tell a joke, a Cumberland even JimInMD could maybe love, another shot of greasy gooey jammy goodness with Good Lovin’, all wonderfully topped off with a closing sweet suite of That’s It For The Other One/Uncle John’s Band-Turn On Your Lovelight.

    The esteemed Mr Miller’s remaster, recently unleased on us, is very, very nice. And while there are a couple of short audience patches, in this case---as in many others---it’s OK if it’s not exactly perfect………….

    Rock on!!!

    Doc
    We need to broaden our sympathies both in space and time - and perceive ourselves as part of a long heritage, and stewards for an immense future……

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    12/29/77 - really strong, tight, driving show start to end. Like 1st show, this had sort of fallen by the wayside for no apparent reason. With Jim on this re China>Rider. Seems very well played to me. While it is the first version post 1974, in some sense it's not really a full "return" because they don't play it again for over a year until 2/3/79 Indianapolis when they brought it back for a few shows at the very tail end of the Godchaux era and it was in the rotation again from there on out. 12/29/77 China>Rider is a stand alone - there would seem to be a story somewhere as to why it was played this night. And yes, Jerry had returned to the Wolf in Fall '77, so no Travis Bean China>Riders.

    BTW - that 2/3/79 Indy show has a smoking Scarlet>Fire to open Set II (only source circulating is audience.) Despite the CW, there is a whole lot that I like from those last months, late '78 into '79, of Keith and Donna with the band.

    And a big thank you to everyone for the healing vibes. So far so good I think. Baby steps.

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    I guess that all depends on where we are now and where we were before?

    mmm 12/29/77. Where to begin? I believe we are close to the return of the Wolf, correct? Oh.. and that Playin'>China>Rider>China Doll>Playin. Holy cow. Taking a step back, a historic and great show, if for no other reason look to the ferocity of Jerry's Guitar. Second.. and I hate to disagree ever so slightly with our dear friend and Vikings fan, I hold that China Rider with high regard. The transition is smooth as silk, subtle but ever so classic.

    I know not the politics of the GD, but I believe this is the show where Jerry began playing the transitional parts Bobby used to, that early tension release passage from familiar to God knows where. I hold this particular passage in quite high regard, again no harm in intended. Perhaps my passion is partly because thank goodness it's back.. but wait for it.. it was forever and and a day before it would return for good.. in the classic GD fashion. Sort of like Dark Star, but not quite.

    Anyway, no slight intended, I believe we can all agree this was an historic show. Not quite exactly the Return of the Wolf, but that is how I remember this show. Welcomed ferocity. One of my favorite 1977 shows.

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    Pheww, where we’re we?

    Wow, what a couple daze!
    I never watch sports all day but damn if that’s not bout the only thing I did yesterday lol
    VIKS with the biggest comeback in NFL history previously held by da Bills!
    I remember where and who I was with that day, but I’ll spare ya the tale lol

    12/29/77: had never heard this one, mostly because saving it for if/when Realgone brings it back. One of only 3 I don’t have. But I threw it on at work Friday and enjoyed it though it seemed perhaps underwhelming for a 77?
    Probably just my listen…
    Good first set, Hot Sugaree stood out, always dig a Sunrise and the second set sequence with the serpentine Playin interweaved with the fine but perhaps not mighty return of China/Rider. Ooo, and China Doll in there too!
    Glad I finally heard it and not getting “full” listen if/when Realgone spits it out I can still get a good “first” listen in.

    9/7/85: after several false starts at work I gave up and finally sat down with it late Friday.
    I have a tape of this I got under weird circumstances. After 86? Rich stadium show (long/short) I ended up giving this gal a lift to the rainbow gathering down in Allegheny State park in Pensitucky. Thought she was only going to much closer NYS park, but by the ticket, take the ride, and I couldn’t just leave her off in the middle of no where in the middle of the night. So for her profound gratitude at my “miracle”…she gave me a second set tape of this show.
    Best part was when I returned home at dawn with an empty tank and pops waiting to use that car to go to work lol.
    Like I say, long story lol
    But I hadn’t heard this show in many years so glad I got to it.
    After all the pre game shenanigans (must of been wild waiting/tripping and then that!)
    Fairly rocking first set including a OMSN closer which I always loved in in that spot, or for an opener!
    Nice Shakedown>Crazy Fingers>Samson. Followed by a nice sequence including the fun first Hey Jude finale, though some of the transitions are a little ruff, but capped off by a sweet Comes a Time. Bob brings her home with an 85 Lovelight and we get an always welcome JBG/Baby Blue dbl encore!
    Unfortunately I guess your not allowed to mention 85 without some mention of “Jerry’s voice” so I’d say he sounds pretty dern good for the most part, definitely comparatively to 85 and perhaps overall?
    Though I was fortunate to experience many post GD Rocks shows, alas I never made it for the real deal. And as usual, you can almost feel the rocks vibe here. Definitely worth a check out. Oh, I went with a nice Chapel matrix!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:23

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History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

- Mark Twain

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:15

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Good show, I don't think it comes up to level of the Feb/March Fillmore West shows, but enjoyable for sure. Funny, as I listen to this I enjoyed Garcia's guitar playing , just the guitar playing, from yesterday's show 10/24/79, just as much as I enjoy his guitar playing from this show, 4/21/69. Anyway, great pick.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!?!

Well, I suppose I went just for the "pudding" yesterday, as I only listened to Set 2, but I did enjoy what I heard. I agree with those who point out that this is not the strongest show of the tour, but I just love this period, and I enjoyed the whole 2nd set. Flaming hot Fire, and even with the vocal flubs in Terrapin, the rest of the set flows nicely. Strong Wharf Rat too! I'm a fan of good sounding AUDs too, and this one certainly does sound pretty sweet.

4/21/69 - the first night of the Ark. I think I might cherry-pick this one with a few songs from set 1 (TOO Suite) and most of set 2 (I'll probably skip a good portion of Lovelight... currently ducking to avoid the tomatoes! :) I do LOVE Sitting On Top of the World!

Almost to hump day!

Peace

No tomatoes from me.

I appreciate Lovelight more as time passes, but it can get repetitive and....

Now the ones i have heard from march 68 and earlier bounce more instead of drag, which is a good thing

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 17:31

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I tend to love any dead that lasts long. Like pitb - lovelight - eyes - smokestack - alligator - and all that great stuff that you can listen to while partying or sex or both together. I know.... way too much info.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:51

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Wait a second Carlo, sex and the Dead. Okay, that cracked me up.

Wait a second honey, listen to this transition into I Know you Rider!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:57

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"Giddy-up." Like kramer would say.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:01

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Carlo, LOL, reminds me of when George was trying to have it all: sex, pastrami, AND the Yankees all at the same time!

69 no doubt is fine. Sitting on Top always welcome. But another in the “have to be in the mood” LL camp, but that doesn’t mean ya gotta throw grease! ; ) Did Viola seem a little underwhelming, or was that just me?

Did Ready or Not afterwards. Really digging this 90s stuff, well, not so much the Vince tunes....

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:31

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Since we just did the first night at the Ark, I was thinking we can mix the ying and the yang with some 1/10/79 from Nassau Coliseum. Honestly, one of my favorite second sets ever, and that speaks volumes. Pre Drums is a powerhouse.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:32

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Okay Josh, looks like a Dr. Bob Wagner audience recording for this show. I will check it out this afternoon. Thanks for the pick.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 07:24

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Nice pick JOSHBYTHEBAY

That Set 2 is always fun to listen too and it really hit the spot yesterday!
Enjoyed that.

I was struck by a few things as I usually am when I listen to this show.
First off the amazing recording by Dr. Bob!
Recording technique & equipment had some major advancement between say '73-'79.
Jerry sings "Sweet Susie” in Loser, that makes it for me.
Love how that Head on tape figures out it's gonna be Dark Star and you can hear the stoke!
Space was still an odd occurrence.

The reviewer in Taper's Compendium was at these shows and he was saying that rumors before the show were that they'd played Dark Star & St. Stephen recently. But he didn't really believe them because rumors were so wild back then.

Reading that I was struck thinking about it. Having grown up essentially always listening and loving 12/31/78 and considering it an upper echelon GD show and legendary. It's crazy to think of a time when Ten days after that show no one knew the set list, what happened or the songs played!

Simpler times... Fun to think about.
Golden age for information now (and misinformation too).

You're still here?!?

Well alright then, the other thing I was struck by...
The reviewer states the hotter show played was the next night 1/11/79

I gotta test that theory today as nothing on this setlist sticks out to me and I really don't recall listening to it often.

See what this show does for my memory.
Good Sugaree to start.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 21:33

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Looking at 9/6/1980 for tommorow's pick. Some of you were at this show, I have never heard it, but the story behind the show seems interesting. Last show before the Warfield.

Yes, do I think 1980 is still lost in space, (per Oroborous), absolutely!

Is it time for more? Let's hope. Giving this one a go.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 05:30

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Looks like DeadVikes has picked 9/6/80, which is a show I have never heard before either. Sounds like a pretty awesome day up in Maine! LOOOONNNG show, interesting setlist, let's do it!

I did a little fishing around the ol' Archive - there are a lot of copies of this one - and I picked two sources that sound pretty good. The first is a SBD/AUD Matrix, mastered by good man Charlie Miller:

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.sbd_aud.miller.25560.sbeok.shnf/…

The second is a straight AUD (looks to be a Jim Wise recording). In the quick sound comparison I did (a few minutes of China Cat, Shakedown, and Mexicali,) I think it sounds a little brighter overall, more bass, better balance, etc., though there is a bit of tape warble (at least I heard it on Mexicali...):

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.wise.unknown.322.sbeok.shnf/gd80…

On both copies the vocals, particularly Jerry's, sound pretty distant. If anyone knows of or finds a better source, please let me know!

Happy listening, HAPPY FRIDAY, and stay safe out there!

Peace

I'm in.. thanks dvikes.

I haven't listened to this show in forever and a day. I'm through the first set and still fumbling for the best version.

Anyway.. even though we just listened to a 79 this feels like a nice change of pace and hits the spot. I don't listen to a ton of 1980. I listened to the deadset centric shows to death decades ago and as much as I love the acoustic material, when I am in the mood, it's awesome but I must admit I like the electric edge.

Lately.. it's the Nov Dec run from 1980 that I find myself hitting the most.

Be kind folks.. it's Happy Friday where I sit. Been working a bit more than usual lately, planning on how to optimize my day. I should finish this show before my day is done, I might switch things up for Friday part 2.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:33

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Otis and Jim,

I listen through Relisten via my Sonos. The version I am listening to is a SBD/Aud, which was the first choice on the list. The vocals sound really clear as well as the rest of the band.
This definitely is not a new polished copy, imagine if it was?
Future release?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:44

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Great pick Dead Vikes. Well this certainly is a long show, and it starts out with great versions of Alabama/Greatest Story, the Dead are full of energy. Then they do a killer version of Sugaree. After a great 3 song start they play 7 songs that are very pedestrian and not much to write home about, Garcia's guitar playing sounds good on these songs but other than that, time to head to the beer garden and have a few beers. They get their energy back that they showed in the 1st 3 songs and end the 1st set with really great versions of China/Rider and Promised Land. Notes, not to fond of Brent's synthesizer playing on Alabama, Weirs slide playing on Little Red Rooster, not very enjoyable. Garcia's slide playing on Little Red Rooster is what always made the Dead's version cool, Weirs singing is ok, but pales in comparison to HowlinWolf.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:02

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Okay, so the recording goes to the audience portion at China Cat and there is a drop off for sure. Hope it goes back.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:30

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Fantastic choice. I love this show. I think it may be the best show from '80 that i've heard, but maybe because this aud is so good. Thanks Jim Wise!

Can't wait to listen to this show again. Lemieux, if you're follow this adventure we've been having over the last year so so, please put this show at the top of your list for release. 🤞

Edit: That Fox show from Atlanta (11-30-80) that was Dave's #8 was a very fine '80 show too.

Looking good Winthorpe!
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one? Love me some 80 Dead. Saw excellent show on 9/2, and we have the under the radar DL shows in between....
1/10/79: this one I’ve heard for the obvious reasons plus it’s a cousin to my first show 10 days later. Really dug this one. Is that TMNS set closer a rager er what? Did 1/11/79 too, but that one didn’t resonate as much, though I was busy...
Gonna try and get to some more 90s released stuff this weekend.
Happy Friday!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 12:26

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Killer 2nd set, I give it a 10 out of 10, excellent from.start to finish. Great choice Dead Vikes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:44

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I ended up listening to the soundboard for Set I and the Jim Wise for Set II. I wonder what happened to the rest of the board? In any case.. a nice palate cleanser and a hot show from a great year.

What's on tap today? Did we do 2/22/74 yet? I'm contemplating that one.. if we did that how about 2/23.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 09:18

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was listening to this early Dec. - 1st set ends with Death Don't Have No Mercy
1st set only (Charlie Miller / Sir Mick hands on) - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=103821 (tracking is off)
full show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=88884

and for tomorrow maybe head next door to Oregon State 1/17/70 - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/17

be well everybody - it may seem a ways off but spring is coming

I both have not listened to this before and do not have it in my electronic world.. I had this show confused with the Download Series #2 show, which was apparently just one set two days later, with a show in the middle (Oregon State University in Corvallis).

I am going with the Charlie Miller first set and the droncit?? version I cobbled together with the second set. The sound is nice.. if I have time I am going to do this one and the next two nights (Corvallis and the Digital Download Series 2 from the same venue).

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 10:48

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Great show! Thanks to vguy for the write ups, if I’d a been a little older that’s the kind of place I’d of gone the extra to get there. Always loved the outta the way venues. Bet the vibe was pretty chill. Oxford was fun, but I’m guessing way bigger/crazier then Lewiston.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 13:22

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...."plays a golden string fiddle to a double E waterfall over my back. Move it!!" Fuck yeah Jerry! Him getting all excited and shit makes me get all excited and shit.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:57

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Great pick, it would definitely be on my bbq and beer drinking list.

Move it!! (ha - hadn't caught that)

Both 1/16 and 1/17 kick heavy. Listened through the two again today. Sweet mix of Live Dead era and Working Man's. Sound quality overall is very good to excellent - a few drop outs but still totally satisfying. First time around that Death Don't came as a total and emotional surprise as I hadn't really scoped the set list. Not expecting 'cause its '70 - my aging deadbase shows its a second to last before the long hiatus. Among fine detail that caught my ear in the larger 1/16 excellence was some of that early Mickey percussion. Just now the 1/17 Dark Star > Stephen > Eleven was all systems go go go.
The Download Series is the one major gap in my "officially released" collection. Wasn't in the position to take advantage of at the time. Didn't even know about 1/18 being part of that. Need to revisit that series.
I think the Hawaii shows from following week were up here not too long ago but its been awhile since personally dived in so will head there soon. Looking forward to Fox Theatre - 2/6/70 (DaP 6) - one of my favorites. The whole 50th for Working Mans and American Beauty really got me going on this era.
Edit - didn't mention the cut to 1/16 Cumberland cause I didn't want that "small" negative to define it . . . . : )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 18:51

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Adding 1/17 only makes it better. These seem to be releasable shows, they might have to address the cuts somehow. Someone's singing is overly loud and off key in Cumberland too.., I think Bobby's. Perhaps his voice broke the tape like the shriek voice broke glass in that old Memorex commercial.

Good choice I had not heard these before. Nice Dark Star too.

Jim, you mentioned 2/22/74, yesterday. Let me know when you want to hit this one up? It is a three set monster.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 10:38

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I'm ready.. any time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 11:10

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Good call on this one Jim, I have it going.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 12:28

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....twist my arm.
Lmao. Jerry blowing the US Blues lyrics right out of the gate. Gotta love it. It's part of the charm.
"We're all confused. What's to lose."
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 22:01

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I forgot how good the PITB was from this show. I was in a great situation to listen today.. and about a third of the way into this song I felt it was ho, hum.. Another three minutes and I realized how wrong I was and good this Playing is..

Is this the first flirtations with Slipknot!? I forget if they played with the theme in '73 or not.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/18/2021 - 07:45

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....Cal Expo 8.5.89.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/08/05
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One More Saturday Night
Cold Rain & Snow
We Can Run
Stagger Lee
Memphis blues
Row jimmy
Let It Grow
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Hey Pocky Way ->
Playin' In The Band ->
I Know Your Rider ->
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Standing On The Moon ->
Throwing Stones ->
Not Fade Away
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US Blues
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Features a OMSN and CR&S one two punch opener and a stand alone Rider.
I was lucky enough to be present and accounted for at this run.