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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #3821
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    What a great show Jim. Recording is fantastic. They Love Each Other really stood out to me. Love it when when a show does that. Peggy O, Cumberland. That Feel Like a Stranger Franklins is hot. Like that finish and the Brokendown encore is solid. But, the strangest part of the show was that Raven Space. What the hell was that?? My god, my dog went nuts when that came on.

    Keep it moving forward.

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    LOL, this is why I love this place!
    Personally I love Desolation Row, but that certainly doesn’t mean you have to lol.
    Those 89 versions are sick. Or any that Jerry’s “on”...
    Man that is a lot of lyrics...how can Bob usually do well with this one but constantly mess up Trucking, lol, and Promised Land! Bet it has to do with where the vowels/consonants fall relative to timing and playing at the same time etc. Unfortunately I can’t remember where, maybe Relix book? But read an interview recently with Hunter discussing just how difficult it is to write so the singer can sing/breathe right etc.. Rockthing,.bet that’s why your having trouble in the same spot...

    Gonna hit up 4/21/71 just cause, “buy the ticket, take the ride”. Actually almost to the final stretch of the April madness.
    Hit up both those 88 shows yesterday and enjoyed both. 88 is another under radar year that needs more love.

    4/19/82. Been a big fan since I got the tape back then, perhaps even more so the previous night.
    Wasn’t sure I’d have time but the Mrs works late tonight so maybe if it’s on YouTube....I thought I saw some of this there once?
    So one step done and another begun...hup, hup, vamonos!

    Oh, ps, hey Vguy I think Striders trying to take away your class clown/site jokester title ; )
    Keep em coming boys! Not enough smiling or laughter “in this world of trouble, we got ta....”

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    JIMINMD: 4/19/82: Helluva first show. Wow. I had an hour drive each way to my work site today, so nearly got through the whole thing in the car. I'd just made it up to the most blatant Other One tease that turned into Truckin' when I got home. So much good happening from start to finish, but that Raven Space is fantastic. Not sure how I missed this one, considering it's my wife's birthday, and a few years ago I made a point of checking to see what shows landed on her birthday. Got stuck up in Orono, I guess. :P Only wish I'd not been driving so I could've listened with more attention and taken more notes about specific hot and not spots. All I know is, I wish I could say that was /my/ first show. I think I'm gonna be listening to this for a while.

    DEADVIKES: 9/15/88: Oh, yeah, I'm amazed they remembered the lyrics as well as they did, tbh, pulling songs out of nowhere on stage that way, well before the teleprompters became practical. It happens. I get it. Usually I have a laugh over it, 'cause sometimes it's the imperfections that are most endearing. I guess Desolation just doesn't appeal to me as much the other tunes in the set, or other Bobby tunes for that matter, so that missed lyric right at the climax of the 12 minute rendition of the song sort of added insult to injury, so to speak. lol. I guess Casanova was just being punished for going to Desolation Row. ;) On my first listen it kind of stood out as one of the few points in the show that weren't pedal to the metal. Don't get me wrong. I love it when Jer brings it waaay down with one of his dramatic ballads, and I love Bobby's role in the band. I know some people who're like, "I only listen to Jerry Band 'cause I can't stand Bob," but I totally do not get that.

    Normally I like the stretched out tunes, but I also dig the hot and tight atmosphere circa '87/'88. So many different approaches over the years. That's what keeps it fun.

    Speaking of flubbed lyrics, There's a line in Promised Land, "Right away I bought me a through train ticket right across Mississippi clean" that I've heard Bobby miss on multiple recordings. The reason I bring this up is that whenever I try to sing that song, I always forget the exact same line. Has Bobby hypnotized me?!

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    Agree Strider, this is a great 88 show and so representative of the time. Short show. Love these 2 source matrix recordings.
    Rockthing, flubbed lyrics is part of the charm and deal with the Dead and so is stretching out those songs. Desolation Row, that song is stuck in my craw. Love it. Might be because it reminds me of the late 80s and being a different dumb kid.

    Going to check out 4/19/82 today. Jim's first. Oh and this is Dan Healy's master soundboard recording.

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    JIMINMD: I'd imagine anyone who wasn't at the Pizza Parlour says they wish they'd seen'em sooner. :) Sorry I horned in with Maine when we were talking about (What's new in) Baltimore That sounds like a cool show. '82 is one of my weaker years, but I've been getting into several shows from that period over the past year, so I'm definitely curious. Now the queue.

    Currently diggin' on that 9/15/88 MSG gig. I was mistaken. It was another September MSG run that I'd spent time listening to. Sure never had heard this. Most of my '88 shows came from old tape trades several gens off the master, so this reminds me that maybe I should be looking to upgrade those. Steve Porter's Sennheiser ME80 pull appealed to me the most. Frequencies seemed most well-balanced. I always go for AUDs first and fall back on boards when it's slim pickins. This show, though. Man. Gimmie an E-N-E-R-G-Y! What's that spell? Great show. Grahme's first "Rock'n'Roll" is certainly noteworthy. Sugaree is rockin'! That's a song that I'm kinda used to feeling like it's draggin on a bit, but not this night. Wow. Desolation Row, otoh, kind of overstays its welcome a bit, and then Bobby flubs the climactic lyric. I love Dylan tunes, and obviously The Dead do too, but this song is rarely a highlight in a Dead show for me. All Along the Watchtower in the second set, however, really cooks. Jer could really rock some dirt in these later days, which makes the contrast with his wonderful clean playing in the early 70s a real treat, and also highlights how each era has its attractions. On the other hand, I prefer Crazy Fingers with Jerry's "silvery elf voice", but I'd never complain about getting a Crazy Fingers. Deal. This has got to be one of the band's most dependable numbers. Such a cool tune to begin with, but they always nail it. Good night for Bobby tunes, with both Cassidy and Playin'. I love how Phil seems to be the first to hint at going back to it during the jam out of Uncle John's. Pretty concise Drums/Space. The crowd clearly reacts to Brent's daughter coming on stage during I Will Take You Home. Interesting choice out of Space showing that Space wasn't all about melting face, but also creating some more gentle dream atmospheres, too. The Lovelight false ending is cool, like, in a James Brown throwing off his mantle kind of way. Bobby really strikes the right balance here delivering exuberant rather than psychotic. ;) They barely slow down at all. I'm not sure I've ever heard such a relentless show before. Nice call.

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    I listened to MSG and started breaking out in a cold sweat with wicked headache. No wait. That’s monosodium glutamate (MSG) . The FDA says is safe. Remains controversial.
    I did indeed listen to 9/15/88. Quite a good Dead show.

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    LOL, I’m confused? Whole lot of stuff bouncin’ round here...which is nice...so it’s 9/15/88, I think?
    If so, I think I’m going to tap 9/20 or what ever CMs fav is, and if time try some of the 15th...
    Curiosity is too strong not to.

    Did 4/17&18/71 yesterday. Both shows really resonated, cough, cough, 420, get it ; )
    But seriously both of these were really enjoyable. Perhaps just me or where my head was at, but the tapes sounded great, the set lists worked, and the band sounds tighter etc. Defiantly in my top five favs since I started on 3/24.

    Happy Belated Meester Jeeeemmyy! Hell of a first! I always felt like I lucked out, but that’s a pretty cool start...on a school night no less ; ) Hey we all started somewhere, why not with some nitrous raving lunatics blowing the roof off!

    74 Auds....that’s actually a good idea. As long as the tapes were done well, bet some of that sounds amazing?
    I’m sure the vocals sound way better than direct 2 channel....

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    LMFAO

    POmyD: I started set 2 of 4/30/77 on cassette last evening, and got to Good Lovin' by the time I arrived at work today.

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    ....too late.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:23

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History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

- Mark Twain

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:15

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Good show, I don't think it comes up to level of the Feb/March Fillmore West shows, but enjoyable for sure. Funny, as I listen to this I enjoyed Garcia's guitar playing , just the guitar playing, from yesterday's show 10/24/79, just as much as I enjoy his guitar playing from this show, 4/21/69. Anyway, great pick.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!?!

Well, I suppose I went just for the "pudding" yesterday, as I only listened to Set 2, but I did enjoy what I heard. I agree with those who point out that this is not the strongest show of the tour, but I just love this period, and I enjoyed the whole 2nd set. Flaming hot Fire, and even with the vocal flubs in Terrapin, the rest of the set flows nicely. Strong Wharf Rat too! I'm a fan of good sounding AUDs too, and this one certainly does sound pretty sweet.

4/21/69 - the first night of the Ark. I think I might cherry-pick this one with a few songs from set 1 (TOO Suite) and most of set 2 (I'll probably skip a good portion of Lovelight... currently ducking to avoid the tomatoes! :) I do LOVE Sitting On Top of the World!

Almost to hump day!

Peace

No tomatoes from me.

I appreciate Lovelight more as time passes, but it can get repetitive and....

Now the ones i have heard from march 68 and earlier bounce more instead of drag, which is a good thing

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 17:31

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I tend to love any dead that lasts long. Like pitb - lovelight - eyes - smokestack - alligator - and all that great stuff that you can listen to while partying or sex or both together. I know.... way too much info.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:51

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Wait a second Carlo, sex and the Dead. Okay, that cracked me up.

Wait a second honey, listen to this transition into I Know you Rider!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:57

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"Giddy-up." Like kramer would say.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:01

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Carlo, LOL, reminds me of when George was trying to have it all: sex, pastrami, AND the Yankees all at the same time!

69 no doubt is fine. Sitting on Top always welcome. But another in the “have to be in the mood” LL camp, but that doesn’t mean ya gotta throw grease! ; ) Did Viola seem a little underwhelming, or was that just me?

Did Ready or Not afterwards. Really digging this 90s stuff, well, not so much the Vince tunes....

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:31

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Since we just did the first night at the Ark, I was thinking we can mix the ying and the yang with some 1/10/79 from Nassau Coliseum. Honestly, one of my favorite second sets ever, and that speaks volumes. Pre Drums is a powerhouse.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:32

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Okay Josh, looks like a Dr. Bob Wagner audience recording for this show. I will check it out this afternoon. Thanks for the pick.

Everybody hang loose.

Nice pick JOSHBYTHEBAY

That Set 2 is always fun to listen too and it really hit the spot yesterday!
Enjoyed that.

I was struck by a few things as I usually am when I listen to this show.
First off the amazing recording by Dr. Bob!
Recording technique & equipment had some major advancement between say '73-'79.
Jerry sings "Sweet Susie” in Loser, that makes it for me.
Love how that Head on tape figures out it's gonna be Dark Star and you can hear the stoke!
Space was still an odd occurrence.

The reviewer in Taper's Compendium was at these shows and he was saying that rumors before the show were that they'd played Dark Star & St. Stephen recently. But he didn't really believe them because rumors were so wild back then.

Reading that I was struck thinking about it. Having grown up essentially always listening and loving 12/31/78 and considering it an upper echelon GD show and legendary. It's crazy to think of a time when Ten days after that show no one knew the set list, what happened or the songs played!

Simpler times... Fun to think about.
Golden age for information now (and misinformation too).

You're still here?!?

Well alright then, the other thing I was struck by...
The reviewer states the hotter show played was the next night 1/11/79

I gotta test that theory today as nothing on this setlist sticks out to me and I really don't recall listening to it often.

See what this show does for my memory.
Good Sugaree to start.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 21:33

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Looking at 9/6/1980 for tommorow's pick. Some of you were at this show, I have never heard it, but the story behind the show seems interesting. Last show before the Warfield.

Yes, do I think 1980 is still lost in space, (per Oroborous), absolutely!

Is it time for more? Let's hope. Giving this one a go.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 05:30

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Looks like DeadVikes has picked 9/6/80, which is a show I have never heard before either. Sounds like a pretty awesome day up in Maine! LOOOONNNG show, interesting setlist, let's do it!

I did a little fishing around the ol' Archive - there are a lot of copies of this one - and I picked two sources that sound pretty good. The first is a SBD/AUD Matrix, mastered by good man Charlie Miller:

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.sbd_aud.miller.25560.sbeok.shnf/…

The second is a straight AUD (looks to be a Jim Wise recording). In the quick sound comparison I did (a few minutes of China Cat, Shakedown, and Mexicali,) I think it sounds a little brighter overall, more bass, better balance, etc., though there is a bit of tape warble (at least I heard it on Mexicali...):

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.wise.unknown.322.sbeok.shnf/gd80…

On both copies the vocals, particularly Jerry's, sound pretty distant. If anyone knows of or finds a better source, please let me know!

Happy listening, HAPPY FRIDAY, and stay safe out there!

Peace

I'm in.. thanks dvikes.

I haven't listened to this show in forever and a day. I'm through the first set and still fumbling for the best version.

Anyway.. even though we just listened to a 79 this feels like a nice change of pace and hits the spot. I don't listen to a ton of 1980. I listened to the deadset centric shows to death decades ago and as much as I love the acoustic material, when I am in the mood, it's awesome but I must admit I like the electric edge.

Lately.. it's the Nov Dec run from 1980 that I find myself hitting the most.

Be kind folks.. it's Happy Friday where I sit. Been working a bit more than usual lately, planning on how to optimize my day. I should finish this show before my day is done, I might switch things up for Friday part 2.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:33

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Otis and Jim,

I listen through Relisten via my Sonos. The version I am listening to is a SBD/Aud, which was the first choice on the list. The vocals sound really clear as well as the rest of the band.
This definitely is not a new polished copy, imagine if it was?
Future release?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:44

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Great pick Dead Vikes. Well this certainly is a long show, and it starts out with great versions of Alabama/Greatest Story, the Dead are full of energy. Then they do a killer version of Sugaree. After a great 3 song start they play 7 songs that are very pedestrian and not much to write home about, Garcia's guitar playing sounds good on these songs but other than that, time to head to the beer garden and have a few beers. They get their energy back that they showed in the 1st 3 songs and end the 1st set with really great versions of China/Rider and Promised Land. Notes, not to fond of Brent's synthesizer playing on Alabama, Weirs slide playing on Little Red Rooster, not very enjoyable. Garcia's slide playing on Little Red Rooster is what always made the Dead's version cool, Weirs singing is ok, but pales in comparison to HowlinWolf.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:02

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Okay, so the recording goes to the audience portion at China Cat and there is a drop off for sure. Hope it goes back.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:30

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Fantastic choice. I love this show. I think it may be the best show from '80 that i've heard, but maybe because this aud is so good. Thanks Jim Wise!

Can't wait to listen to this show again. Lemieux, if you're follow this adventure we've been having over the last year so so, please put this show at the top of your list for release. 🤞

Edit: That Fox show from Atlanta (11-30-80) that was Dave's #8 was a very fine '80 show too.

Looking good Winthorpe!
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one? Love me some 80 Dead. Saw excellent show on 9/2, and we have the under the radar DL shows in between....
1/10/79: this one I’ve heard for the obvious reasons plus it’s a cousin to my first show 10 days later. Really dug this one. Is that TMNS set closer a rager er what? Did 1/11/79 too, but that one didn’t resonate as much, though I was busy...
Gonna try and get to some more 90s released stuff this weekend.
Happy Friday!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 12:26

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Killer 2nd set, I give it a 10 out of 10, excellent from.start to finish. Great choice Dead Vikes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:44

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I ended up listening to the soundboard for Set I and the Jim Wise for Set II. I wonder what happened to the rest of the board? In any case.. a nice palate cleanser and a hot show from a great year.

What's on tap today? Did we do 2/22/74 yet? I'm contemplating that one.. if we did that how about 2/23.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 09:18

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was listening to this early Dec. - 1st set ends with Death Don't Have No Mercy
1st set only (Charlie Miller / Sir Mick hands on) - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=103821 (tracking is off)
full show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=88884

and for tomorrow maybe head next door to Oregon State 1/17/70 - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/17

be well everybody - it may seem a ways off but spring is coming

I both have not listened to this before and do not have it in my electronic world.. I had this show confused with the Download Series #2 show, which was apparently just one set two days later, with a show in the middle (Oregon State University in Corvallis).

I am going with the Charlie Miller first set and the droncit?? version I cobbled together with the second set. The sound is nice.. if I have time I am going to do this one and the next two nights (Corvallis and the Digital Download Series 2 from the same venue).

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 10:48

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Great show! Thanks to vguy for the write ups, if I’d a been a little older that’s the kind of place I’d of gone the extra to get there. Always loved the outta the way venues. Bet the vibe was pretty chill. Oxford was fun, but I’m guessing way bigger/crazier then Lewiston.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 13:22

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...."plays a golden string fiddle to a double E waterfall over my back. Move it!!" Fuck yeah Jerry! Him getting all excited and shit makes me get all excited and shit.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:57

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Great pick, it would definitely be on my bbq and beer drinking list.

Move it!! (ha - hadn't caught that)

Both 1/16 and 1/17 kick heavy. Listened through the two again today. Sweet mix of Live Dead era and Working Man's. Sound quality overall is very good to excellent - a few drop outs but still totally satisfying. First time around that Death Don't came as a total and emotional surprise as I hadn't really scoped the set list. Not expecting 'cause its '70 - my aging deadbase shows its a second to last before the long hiatus. Among fine detail that caught my ear in the larger 1/16 excellence was some of that early Mickey percussion. Just now the 1/17 Dark Star > Stephen > Eleven was all systems go go go.
The Download Series is the one major gap in my "officially released" collection. Wasn't in the position to take advantage of at the time. Didn't even know about 1/18 being part of that. Need to revisit that series.
I think the Hawaii shows from following week were up here not too long ago but its been awhile since personally dived in so will head there soon. Looking forward to Fox Theatre - 2/6/70 (DaP 6) - one of my favorites. The whole 50th for Working Mans and American Beauty really got me going on this era.
Edit - didn't mention the cut to 1/16 Cumberland cause I didn't want that "small" negative to define it . . . . : )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 18:51

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Adding 1/17 only makes it better. These seem to be releasable shows, they might have to address the cuts somehow. Someone's singing is overly loud and off key in Cumberland too.., I think Bobby's. Perhaps his voice broke the tape like the shriek voice broke glass in that old Memorex commercial.

Good choice I had not heard these before. Nice Dark Star too.

Jim, you mentioned 2/22/74, yesterday. Let me know when you want to hit this one up? It is a three set monster.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 10:38

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I'm ready.. any time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 11:10

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Good call on this one Jim, I have it going.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 12:28

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....twist my arm.
Lmao. Jerry blowing the US Blues lyrics right out of the gate. Gotta love it. It's part of the charm.
"We're all confused. What's to lose."
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 22:01

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I forgot how good the PITB was from this show. I was in a great situation to listen today.. and about a third of the way into this song I felt it was ho, hum.. Another three minutes and I realized how wrong I was and good this Playing is..

Is this the first flirtations with Slipknot!? I forget if they played with the theme in '73 or not.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/18/2021 - 07:45

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....Cal Expo 8.5.89.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/08/05
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One More Saturday Night
Cold Rain & Snow
We Can Run
Stagger Lee
Memphis blues
Row jimmy
Let It Grow
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Hey Pocky Way ->
Playin' In The Band ->
I Know Your Rider ->
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Standing On The Moon ->
Throwing Stones ->
Not Fade Away
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US Blues
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Features a OMSN and CR&S one two punch opener and a stand alone Rider.
I was lucky enough to be present and accounted for at this run.