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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #4281
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    GD tractor beam/3rd eye

    That's what got me for sure!

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    Wowsa! Thank You Bluecrow!

    Man I haven’t been hit with the ole GD tractor Beam/third eye in ???...
    This last Dave’s: The BFF Phil show, was similar in that I had no expectations and for whatever reason I really clicked with it. But this is on a different level...
    It’s so funny since I wrote 93 off years ago because of, ...well, basically too lazy and closed minded! I saw only one show 6/13/93, that I thought was perhaps the worse show I’d seen (it wasn’t!) 28 years later, arm chair psychologist I’d say life was changing as it will do, and I needed justification for letting go of such an important/prominent part of my life for so long?
    Well fug all that now as hopefully we’ve been able to lose that dogma and go furthur!
    Also think being much older now, the more relaxed feel that was often the MO of the last era, is now a plus, whereas then only in my thirties, I was accustomed to the more balls to the walls 80s energy, ya know “too much of everything is just enough”, and thus often felt non plussed? Or, more precise: my perception/reference has changed with age...

    And 93 seems to be a good example, as I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the shows I’ve heard recently, especially this one! From the sweet Shakedown opener, nice Wang Dang, sure not 83 bad ass, but still fine and not just the same old, same old Bob tunes. A nice Lazy River, which makes me think to our recent plunge into the Port Chester run that made me realize how when they were breaking out new tunes over the years, the JG ones always seemed more together and gelled quicker than Bobs...lol
    Desolation was/is always a top Dylan or Dead song for me. Though perhaps it lacks the verve of an 89 version, it’s still fine. Decent Ramble On, and then to me, a huge energy drop with Eternity, Still sorta on the fence with this one? Guess I haven’t spent enough time with it yet? Wonder if it would resonate better if it didn’t plod so much? Guess that’s what I remember NOT liking about late era shows; the plodding sometimes...(one thing I don’t like about D&C sometimes)
    But it’s played ok, and followed by a decent set closing Liberty...
    Picasso Moon, for the rocking second set opener. Not sure I ever fully grasped the lyrics to this one, but always liked the flavor and energy. Dig any tunes that let JG rip!
    Crazy Fingers, always a personal favorite, even if not always tight. Perhaps the fragility/delicateness of it makes it prone to occasional turbulence? Perhaps just a litmus test for how together JG and/or the band was on any given occasion? But JG seems on tonight and we get a nice sequence thru Playing and eventually a short but Sweet Dark Star. This devolves nicely into another of those lysergic 90s Drumzzz, with perhaps the biggest surprise (for me) of the final of only 3 ever 2 Soldiers Jam. Like BC said this whole sequence through TOO and sliding into a sweet Days Between is an emotional playground that only the GD could provide.
    This song resonated with me from day one, another instint Hunter/Garcia masterpiece, and though not perfect, another great rendition that once again got this old Sod all choked up!
    NOTE: I also thought “Cabin Boy” in the jam, but was so intrigued I looked it up in Deadbase 10&50 which listed it as the 2 Soldiers jam, which upon further review makes sense. Performed only twice before on 9/22/87 and 9/12/90.
    After a decent Good Lovin’ another big Smile/wow moment with LSD, no not that ; )
    Now I knew it was coming, but since I’m not sure I’ve heard them do it before, (ok, good part of being old/forgetful, I can enjoy movies and shit like I’ve never seen/heard before lol.), really dug it! So Cool, now really bummed I didn’t get to see it : (
    Perhaps that was part of why I became disillusioned in the later years; I was hearing about then playing Dark Stars, and Here Comes SS, and Lucy etc, and after many years of lucking out, all I was getting were what seemed like endless; Sambas, Eternity’s, and harumph, Loooonnngggg, Waaaaaayyyys, wasn’t big on Corina then either. But as I say, thankfully I’m more open to MOST of that now (Sorry Vince...)
    So yeah, after over forty years it’s still nice to get shown the light....! And THAT, to me, is the beauty of this board. To go where not many have gone before, AND find the Golden Yummies!!
    Mission accomplished!
    So big THANKS (again ; ) to Bluecrow!

    Not sure I’ll get to Alaska today? (but another curiosity that hasn’t been sniffed yet)... Lovey’s home so we’re listening to “other” stuff, like some L.S.D. inspired Beatles! No not that! ; )
    Until next time me amigos!

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    It was in this behind the scenes video that Justin Kreutzman shot during The Dead rehearsals.

    That Weir, he's funny!

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    when did Bob say THAT?

    yikes.

    Good way to get a cymbal frisbeed to the head.

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    What has three legs and an asshole on top?

    Either one of those drum stools behind me.

    Hahaha.. Good one Bob.

    Happy Friday!

    PS - Nothing personal drummers, Bob said it.

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    A little Alaska in 1980 sounds good. Let's do it Vguy.

    Good stuff Jim. Hopefully, soon we can all get back to living and making more good stories.

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    First, Alaska is fine with me.

    Next, tales from golden nitrous canister:

    One day in either the late 80's or the early 90's.. we found ourselves waking up early to climb the Middle Teton in Jackson Hole. It's really more of a hard core hike, no roped climbing, but with over 6,000 feet of vertical from the car to the top, planning to go up and down in a single day.. it was a big-en, much of it meandering up and down talus slopes which can and did munch up our footwear, my shoes were shredded by the end of the day.

    Anyway.. and I'm pretty sure this part was my idea.. we decided to bring some party favors for the summit, which included a healthy number of those little nitrous canisters and one of those little balloon screw on thingies. So there were were at just under 13,000 feet having been pretty close to sea level just days earlier giddy with nitrous running through our veins huddled in some contrived stance to escape the wind and ice pellets that were pelting us in the face procrastinating the long hike (slide) down. Now Nitrous can have a wicked effect at these altitudes, it was all we could do to not fall off the mountain.. but it was a giddy high time full of laughter and stories that I will never forget. Somewhere there are pictures commemorating the event (which proved difficult to explain when my parents got a hold of the pics). We left at 4:30 in the morning and got back to the car well after dark to a car with a dead battery. Thank god it was a stick shift so we could push start it. What a grand adventure that was. At one point well into the afternoon still climbing up.. someone asked our fearless leader how much further, his reply.. I'm not sure. Both the other times we did this we all took acid. We knew we were in for a long day.

    Believe it or not, this tale ties neatly into everyone's favorite fun band.. we were on a cross country climbing trip that culminated with a successful attempt at Devil's Tower and we had an off day in the Tetons with nothing planned. Climbing the Grand Teton was a bit more than we had in us so we were going to play it by ear and do something not quite so difficult.

    One of my previous college roommates was rumored to be living in Jackson Hole and I really wanted to hook up with him, so I tried to look him up in the phone book to no avail.. (remember public phones when they used to have these thick phone books wired to the booth). So we got in the night before were were just walking around town checking things out. There was this bar and grilled called the Mangey Moose.. so we stroll by thinking to grab a beer or whatever and we hear the unmistakable sound of a Dead cover band, so we immediately head in. After about a half hour this guy grabs me on the shoulder, my old roommate.. and he puts us all up in the house he was renting (floor and sofa space), takes off the next day and was our tour guide for the hike.

    Just a small detour on a side street and we are back to talking about everyone's favorite fun band, the Grateful Dead. What a small world where you can run into someone you used to be close to but have not contacted in years and randomly run into him 2,000 miles away from home. I bet many of us have similar stories.. we are everywhere!

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    You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose....

    ....but you can't pick your friends nose. May I suggest 6.20.80 as today's pick?
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1980/06/20

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    Glad folks enjoyed this. The Handsome Cabin Boy Jam > Other One > Days Between sequence is so emotionally powerful for me, really unlike anything else in the Dead canon in how it resonates. Jerry sliding into the Midi tones during Handsome Cabin Boy is so over the top dreamlike beautiful. And then that Days Between . . . . All of this a portal into a fantastical world.

    Weekend incoming. On the road today. Be safe. Onward!

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    Thanks for the pick Bluecrow. Nice sounding recording. Definitely a different vibe in 1993. Lazy River Road is great.
    Not the rocking Wang Dang Doodle of say 1990.
    When you are the greatest touring band of all time, you wonder what Phil, Bob and the rest of the crew thought of the last few years?
    I used to read a lot of books about the Dead in the 80s. Might be time to look into some more recent offerings. One thing for sure, Bob loved to tour.
    Would love to have the opportunity to See Dead and Co soon.

    Would also love to see some Shoreline shows released. They always seemed to play nice and loose there.

    Everybody hang loose.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:23

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History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

- Mark Twain

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:15

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Good show, I don't think it comes up to level of the Feb/March Fillmore West shows, but enjoyable for sure. Funny, as I listen to this I enjoyed Garcia's guitar playing , just the guitar playing, from yesterday's show 10/24/79, just as much as I enjoy his guitar playing from this show, 4/21/69. Anyway, great pick.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!?!

Well, I suppose I went just for the "pudding" yesterday, as I only listened to Set 2, but I did enjoy what I heard. I agree with those who point out that this is not the strongest show of the tour, but I just love this period, and I enjoyed the whole 2nd set. Flaming hot Fire, and even with the vocal flubs in Terrapin, the rest of the set flows nicely. Strong Wharf Rat too! I'm a fan of good sounding AUDs too, and this one certainly does sound pretty sweet.

4/21/69 - the first night of the Ark. I think I might cherry-pick this one with a few songs from set 1 (TOO Suite) and most of set 2 (I'll probably skip a good portion of Lovelight... currently ducking to avoid the tomatoes! :) I do LOVE Sitting On Top of the World!

Almost to hump day!

Peace

No tomatoes from me.

I appreciate Lovelight more as time passes, but it can get repetitive and....

Now the ones i have heard from march 68 and earlier bounce more instead of drag, which is a good thing

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 17:31

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I tend to love any dead that lasts long. Like pitb - lovelight - eyes - smokestack - alligator - and all that great stuff that you can listen to while partying or sex or both together. I know.... way too much info.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:51

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Wait a second Carlo, sex and the Dead. Okay, that cracked me up.

Wait a second honey, listen to this transition into I Know you Rider!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:57

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"Giddy-up." Like kramer would say.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:01

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Carlo, LOL, reminds me of when George was trying to have it all: sex, pastrami, AND the Yankees all at the same time!

69 no doubt is fine. Sitting on Top always welcome. But another in the “have to be in the mood” LL camp, but that doesn’t mean ya gotta throw grease! ; ) Did Viola seem a little underwhelming, or was that just me?

Did Ready or Not afterwards. Really digging this 90s stuff, well, not so much the Vince tunes....

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:31

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Since we just did the first night at the Ark, I was thinking we can mix the ying and the yang with some 1/10/79 from Nassau Coliseum. Honestly, one of my favorite second sets ever, and that speaks volumes. Pre Drums is a powerhouse.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:32

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Okay Josh, looks like a Dr. Bob Wagner audience recording for this show. I will check it out this afternoon. Thanks for the pick.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 07:24

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Nice pick JOSHBYTHEBAY

That Set 2 is always fun to listen too and it really hit the spot yesterday!
Enjoyed that.

I was struck by a few things as I usually am when I listen to this show.
First off the amazing recording by Dr. Bob!
Recording technique & equipment had some major advancement between say '73-'79.
Jerry sings "Sweet Susie” in Loser, that makes it for me.
Love how that Head on tape figures out it's gonna be Dark Star and you can hear the stoke!
Space was still an odd occurrence.

The reviewer in Taper's Compendium was at these shows and he was saying that rumors before the show were that they'd played Dark Star & St. Stephen recently. But he didn't really believe them because rumors were so wild back then.

Reading that I was struck thinking about it. Having grown up essentially always listening and loving 12/31/78 and considering it an upper echelon GD show and legendary. It's crazy to think of a time when Ten days after that show no one knew the set list, what happened or the songs played!

Simpler times... Fun to think about.
Golden age for information now (and misinformation too).

You're still here?!?

Well alright then, the other thing I was struck by...
The reviewer states the hotter show played was the next night 1/11/79

I gotta test that theory today as nothing on this setlist sticks out to me and I really don't recall listening to it often.

See what this show does for my memory.
Good Sugaree to start.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 21:33

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Looking at 9/6/1980 for tommorow's pick. Some of you were at this show, I have never heard it, but the story behind the show seems interesting. Last show before the Warfield.

Yes, do I think 1980 is still lost in space, (per Oroborous), absolutely!

Is it time for more? Let's hope. Giving this one a go.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 05:30

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Looks like DeadVikes has picked 9/6/80, which is a show I have never heard before either. Sounds like a pretty awesome day up in Maine! LOOOONNNG show, interesting setlist, let's do it!

I did a little fishing around the ol' Archive - there are a lot of copies of this one - and I picked two sources that sound pretty good. The first is a SBD/AUD Matrix, mastered by good man Charlie Miller:

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.sbd_aud.miller.25560.sbeok.shnf/…

The second is a straight AUD (looks to be a Jim Wise recording). In the quick sound comparison I did (a few minutes of China Cat, Shakedown, and Mexicali,) I think it sounds a little brighter overall, more bass, better balance, etc., though there is a bit of tape warble (at least I heard it on Mexicali...):

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.wise.unknown.322.sbeok.shnf/gd80…

On both copies the vocals, particularly Jerry's, sound pretty distant. If anyone knows of or finds a better source, please let me know!

Happy listening, HAPPY FRIDAY, and stay safe out there!

Peace

I'm in.. thanks dvikes.

I haven't listened to this show in forever and a day. I'm through the first set and still fumbling for the best version.

Anyway.. even though we just listened to a 79 this feels like a nice change of pace and hits the spot. I don't listen to a ton of 1980. I listened to the deadset centric shows to death decades ago and as much as I love the acoustic material, when I am in the mood, it's awesome but I must admit I like the electric edge.

Lately.. it's the Nov Dec run from 1980 that I find myself hitting the most.

Be kind folks.. it's Happy Friday where I sit. Been working a bit more than usual lately, planning on how to optimize my day. I should finish this show before my day is done, I might switch things up for Friday part 2.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:33

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Otis and Jim,

I listen through Relisten via my Sonos. The version I am listening to is a SBD/Aud, which was the first choice on the list. The vocals sound really clear as well as the rest of the band.
This definitely is not a new polished copy, imagine if it was?
Future release?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:44

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Great pick Dead Vikes. Well this certainly is a long show, and it starts out with great versions of Alabama/Greatest Story, the Dead are full of energy. Then they do a killer version of Sugaree. After a great 3 song start they play 7 songs that are very pedestrian and not much to write home about, Garcia's guitar playing sounds good on these songs but other than that, time to head to the beer garden and have a few beers. They get their energy back that they showed in the 1st 3 songs and end the 1st set with really great versions of China/Rider and Promised Land. Notes, not to fond of Brent's synthesizer playing on Alabama, Weirs slide playing on Little Red Rooster, not very enjoyable. Garcia's slide playing on Little Red Rooster is what always made the Dead's version cool, Weirs singing is ok, but pales in comparison to HowlinWolf.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:02

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Okay, so the recording goes to the audience portion at China Cat and there is a drop off for sure. Hope it goes back.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:30

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Fantastic choice. I love this show. I think it may be the best show from '80 that i've heard, but maybe because this aud is so good. Thanks Jim Wise!

Can't wait to listen to this show again. Lemieux, if you're follow this adventure we've been having over the last year so so, please put this show at the top of your list for release. 🤞

Edit: That Fox show from Atlanta (11-30-80) that was Dave's #8 was a very fine '80 show too.

Looking good Winthorpe!
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one? Love me some 80 Dead. Saw excellent show on 9/2, and we have the under the radar DL shows in between....
1/10/79: this one I’ve heard for the obvious reasons plus it’s a cousin to my first show 10 days later. Really dug this one. Is that TMNS set closer a rager er what? Did 1/11/79 too, but that one didn’t resonate as much, though I was busy...
Gonna try and get to some more 90s released stuff this weekend.
Happy Friday!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 12:26

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Killer 2nd set, I give it a 10 out of 10, excellent from.start to finish. Great choice Dead Vikes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:44

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I ended up listening to the soundboard for Set I and the Jim Wise for Set II. I wonder what happened to the rest of the board? In any case.. a nice palate cleanser and a hot show from a great year.

What's on tap today? Did we do 2/22/74 yet? I'm contemplating that one.. if we did that how about 2/23.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 09:18

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was listening to this early Dec. - 1st set ends with Death Don't Have No Mercy
1st set only (Charlie Miller / Sir Mick hands on) - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=103821 (tracking is off)
full show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=88884

and for tomorrow maybe head next door to Oregon State 1/17/70 - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/17

be well everybody - it may seem a ways off but spring is coming

I both have not listened to this before and do not have it in my electronic world.. I had this show confused with the Download Series #2 show, which was apparently just one set two days later, with a show in the middle (Oregon State University in Corvallis).

I am going with the Charlie Miller first set and the droncit?? version I cobbled together with the second set. The sound is nice.. if I have time I am going to do this one and the next two nights (Corvallis and the Digital Download Series 2 from the same venue).

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 10:48

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Great show! Thanks to vguy for the write ups, if I’d a been a little older that’s the kind of place I’d of gone the extra to get there. Always loved the outta the way venues. Bet the vibe was pretty chill. Oxford was fun, but I’m guessing way bigger/crazier then Lewiston.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 13:22

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...."plays a golden string fiddle to a double E waterfall over my back. Move it!!" Fuck yeah Jerry! Him getting all excited and shit makes me get all excited and shit.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:57

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Great pick, it would definitely be on my bbq and beer drinking list.

Move it!! (ha - hadn't caught that)

Both 1/16 and 1/17 kick heavy. Listened through the two again today. Sweet mix of Live Dead era and Working Man's. Sound quality overall is very good to excellent - a few drop outs but still totally satisfying. First time around that Death Don't came as a total and emotional surprise as I hadn't really scoped the set list. Not expecting 'cause its '70 - my aging deadbase shows its a second to last before the long hiatus. Among fine detail that caught my ear in the larger 1/16 excellence was some of that early Mickey percussion. Just now the 1/17 Dark Star > Stephen > Eleven was all systems go go go.
The Download Series is the one major gap in my "officially released" collection. Wasn't in the position to take advantage of at the time. Didn't even know about 1/18 being part of that. Need to revisit that series.
I think the Hawaii shows from following week were up here not too long ago but its been awhile since personally dived in so will head there soon. Looking forward to Fox Theatre - 2/6/70 (DaP 6) - one of my favorites. The whole 50th for Working Mans and American Beauty really got me going on this era.
Edit - didn't mention the cut to 1/16 Cumberland cause I didn't want that "small" negative to define it . . . . : )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 18:51

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Adding 1/17 only makes it better. These seem to be releasable shows, they might have to address the cuts somehow. Someone's singing is overly loud and off key in Cumberland too.., I think Bobby's. Perhaps his voice broke the tape like the shriek voice broke glass in that old Memorex commercial.

Good choice I had not heard these before. Nice Dark Star too.

Jim, you mentioned 2/22/74, yesterday. Let me know when you want to hit this one up? It is a three set monster.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 10:38

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I'm ready.. any time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 11:10

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Good call on this one Jim, I have it going.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 12:28

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....twist my arm.
Lmao. Jerry blowing the US Blues lyrics right out of the gate. Gotta love it. It's part of the charm.
"We're all confused. What's to lose."
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 22:01

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I forgot how good the PITB was from this show. I was in a great situation to listen today.. and about a third of the way into this song I felt it was ho, hum.. Another three minutes and I realized how wrong I was and good this Playing is..

Is this the first flirtations with Slipknot!? I forget if they played with the theme in '73 or not.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/18/2021 - 07:45

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....Cal Expo 8.5.89.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/08/05
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One More Saturday Night
Cold Rain & Snow
We Can Run
Stagger Lee
Memphis blues
Row jimmy
Let It Grow
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Hey Pocky Way ->
Playin' In The Band ->
I Know Your Rider ->
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Standing On The Moon ->
Throwing Stones ->
Not Fade Away
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US Blues
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Features a OMSN and CR&S one two punch opener and a stand alone Rider.
I was lucky enough to be present and accounted for at this run.