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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Hi Five!

    Nice one Jim, I got a kick out of that :)

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    Re: Never Had Such a Good Time

    ....sorry, I couldn't resist.

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    Did jya have a good time?

    Wow, meeting Pigpen.
    That's a keeper for sure.

    Strider do you recall your impression of the difference between the Gymnasium vibe and the Fillmore East or what you were thinking about the scene in comparison?
    EDIT: Mind Meld Bro!! I see you were just discussing this in your post below 1 minute before I posted this question.
    Diff vibe from the city. I'm thinking FE vibe had to be intense!

    Also I wonder if that tape Charlie-O was playing came from the SBD that the Sound Crew made?

    Thanks for sharing man, Great Story!

    In regards to 10/31/70 tape, the Taper's Compendium mentions the following:
    Bobby going into "a tirade against some nameless soundman. After Pigpen threatens to rip off the head of the aforementioned sound engineer and defecate in it, the problems seem to get resolved, thereby saving the show from a decline into fecal ultraviolence." - Haha, I love that line.... (Shout Out - Nice work Paul Bodenham & Taper's Compendium Crew!)

    However, I don't hear that anywhere on the "tapes" I've got or the sources on Archive.org.
    Supposedly it happened after Cosmic Charlie. Anybody got that / hear that on "tape"?

    It might be the case where the source mentioned in Taper's Compendium isn't in digital circulation, but now I'm curious what's going on there. If anybody has info on that, let me know as I was looking forward to hearing that all day and darn it, I'm not hearing that anywhere.

    Started listening to 2/18/71, it's sounding good friends. Strider was that your next show?
    EDIT: Scratch that question you were at all 4 nights at the Cap in November '70. You Lucky Dog You!!!

    Alright, well this is probably long enough as I spent some time already today on... 30 Days of the Dead!
    Guessed it, if you can call searching through other versions and comparing a guess.
    Do people actually just remember the version upon hearing it, or how does that work for you all?
    I remember the first year just thinking how in the world do these heads know this shit?!?!?
    Now.. I might be there. Is that a good thing? Not sure.

    Anyhow, if you read this far, thanks for visiting and I hope you have a wonderful day!
    Go play Dead.
    I'm gonna finish up 2/18/71 today and might have to do it all over again.
    Good stuff!

    PS - if this wasn't so long already I would've talked a bit about 1977-10-29 - Sounded ripping / Might As Well is a power house version and the energy seems to stay there, but I was distracted and didn't finish. And 1980 Warfield / Radio City Reels, 2 Track & Multi-Track but it'd all be speculation.

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    Listened to 10/31/70 NRPS early show yesterday. Early show Dead last night with full moon. Viola into Cumberland rocks. Second set this morning at 420 am with coffee, full moon. Today is Todos Santos , All Saints Day or Day of the Dead. Fifty years ago at Pritchard Gym at S.U.N.Y. I remember it took a long time before they opened the doors for the late show. There was a very large crowd at the gym entrance. Nevertheless way less intense than in the city for a Dead show. Sometime after 11pm they finally let everyone in for free, they did not collect tickets. As NRPS was around midnight the late show Dead set was technically November 1, Day of the Dead.

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    Great times.. wish I was there. Thanks for sharing. The closest I got to a New Years show was 11/1 once. Oh well.

    I did finally get through a quite uninterrupted listen of Dekalb. A high energy show with flawless transitions. Still far from my favorite from '77, but it is a great show. Perhaps I am just splitting hairs.

    I will say this, this is one of those shows you really need to play loud, from Might As Well to the end.

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    Strider, very cool story meeting Pig Pen. You saw the Grateful Dead at their peak, 1970, their greatest year as far as I'm concerned.

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    Happy Halloween all. Pretty cool Dennis, sounds like a blast. I never made it to a Halloween show.

    Yes, GOGD, I watched the Preshow with DL.
    I think Jim had some comments on this as well last night....
    What a drag, they recorded over some of the master reels for Brent's solo stuff. What a bummer.
    They used two 16 track to record the whole run.
    Per DL there is definitely material available, fair amount, half or more, but not complete shows. DL stated a multi track box release is not necessarily feasible.
    So this stinks.

    He did mention they still have the mixdown tapes and the sound is okay.

    Could they make a box set from mixdown tapes?

    Seemed to me that the Warfield Radio City box is a long shot at best. They looked into it in the early 2000s and we are sitting here in late 2020.

    Thank god they didn't record over other tapes. We have had some unbelievable releases.

    Stay well out there.

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    DaP 36 was a no show.

    Happy Halloween Dead Freaks!

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    10/31/1970 last live Viola Lee Blues!

    Fifty years ago this time I had arrived at Stony Brook by hitchhiking from the panhandle, of Connect over the Throggs Neck Bridge and out the Island to S.U.N.Y. First time seeing the Dead away from the Fillmore. 1970 rural Long Island would have been a different world from now.
    Charlie from Brooklyn was numero uno Dead Freak in those days. I met him before the Halloween shows at the student union. He was playing a cassette he made the night before on a high end recorder, boom box. To my memory that was the first Dead tape I ever heard aside from records. Vintage Dead and then Historic Dead were considered like bootlegs.
    I recently listened to the complete night from 10/31/70 during the last full moon October 1, same time as breaking a four month Ganga fast. It was blissfull. Otherworldly. NRPS was great with Garcia on pedal steel. Relisten ing now. I easily bought tickets for the two shows. Although everyone was let in free for late show around midnight. I vaguely recall being on Gymnasium floor for early show. Late show was on the top bleacher on the end closest to the stage not 80’ away. One light projection man had a wizard get up with a pointed hat. Pigpen wore a psychedelic fireman’s hat, (for a few songs)each section was painted a different day-glow color.
    After the late show ended (3am or later?) I left the Building out the exits behind the stage. Met Pigpen in passing as he was getting in his limo as I was funneled down the police barricade right behind him. I told him thanks, he asked me “did jya have a good time?” , to which I replied. “Definitely!”, . Pig;”that’s good”. My one time meeting the man.
    Afterward vaguely remember catching a ride in a Dodge Challenger that drove close to a 100 mph. Over the dawn Troggs Neck Bridge with no traffic. Dropped off in New Rochelle , got on a train for the last stretch. Home by 8am.
    The Viola Lee Blues into Cumberland Blues is so excellent.! Happy Halloween

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    Just scored 5-9-77 vinyl at a local shop, $125 + tax.
    There were 2 copies, another guy was there at the same time and grabbed the other.

    Sounds awesome, but the curse of vinyl means that you have to flip the record after Slipknot!

    DaP 36 is ‘in transit by post office’, so fingers are crossed that it comes today.
    AB50 is also supposed to arrive today.

    Good thing clocks turn back tonight, I’ll need that extra hour for listening if in fact all the CD’s show up.
    Not sure if I’ll get in the Halloween anniversary listens, I’ve heard them all many times and the new arrivals may have to come first. We’ll see how things play out tonight.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:23

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History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

- Mark Twain

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:15

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Good show, I don't think it comes up to level of the Feb/March Fillmore West shows, but enjoyable for sure. Funny, as I listen to this I enjoyed Garcia's guitar playing , just the guitar playing, from yesterday's show 10/24/79, just as much as I enjoy his guitar playing from this show, 4/21/69. Anyway, great pick.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!?!

Well, I suppose I went just for the "pudding" yesterday, as I only listened to Set 2, but I did enjoy what I heard. I agree with those who point out that this is not the strongest show of the tour, but I just love this period, and I enjoyed the whole 2nd set. Flaming hot Fire, and even with the vocal flubs in Terrapin, the rest of the set flows nicely. Strong Wharf Rat too! I'm a fan of good sounding AUDs too, and this one certainly does sound pretty sweet.

4/21/69 - the first night of the Ark. I think I might cherry-pick this one with a few songs from set 1 (TOO Suite) and most of set 2 (I'll probably skip a good portion of Lovelight... currently ducking to avoid the tomatoes! :) I do LOVE Sitting On Top of the World!

Almost to hump day!

Peace

No tomatoes from me.

I appreciate Lovelight more as time passes, but it can get repetitive and....

Now the ones i have heard from march 68 and earlier bounce more instead of drag, which is a good thing

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 17:31

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I tend to love any dead that lasts long. Like pitb - lovelight - eyes - smokestack - alligator - and all that great stuff that you can listen to while partying or sex or both together. I know.... way too much info.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:51

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Wait a second Carlo, sex and the Dead. Okay, that cracked me up.

Wait a second honey, listen to this transition into I Know you Rider!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:57

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"Giddy-up." Like kramer would say.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:01

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Carlo, LOL, reminds me of when George was trying to have it all: sex, pastrami, AND the Yankees all at the same time!

69 no doubt is fine. Sitting on Top always welcome. But another in the “have to be in the mood” LL camp, but that doesn’t mean ya gotta throw grease! ; ) Did Viola seem a little underwhelming, or was that just me?

Did Ready or Not afterwards. Really digging this 90s stuff, well, not so much the Vince tunes....

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:31

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Since we just did the first night at the Ark, I was thinking we can mix the ying and the yang with some 1/10/79 from Nassau Coliseum. Honestly, one of my favorite second sets ever, and that speaks volumes. Pre Drums is a powerhouse.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:32

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Okay Josh, looks like a Dr. Bob Wagner audience recording for this show. I will check it out this afternoon. Thanks for the pick.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 07:24

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Nice pick JOSHBYTHEBAY

That Set 2 is always fun to listen too and it really hit the spot yesterday!
Enjoyed that.

I was struck by a few things as I usually am when I listen to this show.
First off the amazing recording by Dr. Bob!
Recording technique & equipment had some major advancement between say '73-'79.
Jerry sings "Sweet Susie” in Loser, that makes it for me.
Love how that Head on tape figures out it's gonna be Dark Star and you can hear the stoke!
Space was still an odd occurrence.

The reviewer in Taper's Compendium was at these shows and he was saying that rumors before the show were that they'd played Dark Star & St. Stephen recently. But he didn't really believe them because rumors were so wild back then.

Reading that I was struck thinking about it. Having grown up essentially always listening and loving 12/31/78 and considering it an upper echelon GD show and legendary. It's crazy to think of a time when Ten days after that show no one knew the set list, what happened or the songs played!

Simpler times... Fun to think about.
Golden age for information now (and misinformation too).

You're still here?!?

Well alright then, the other thing I was struck by...
The reviewer states the hotter show played was the next night 1/11/79

I gotta test that theory today as nothing on this setlist sticks out to me and I really don't recall listening to it often.

See what this show does for my memory.
Good Sugaree to start.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 21:33

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Looking at 9/6/1980 for tommorow's pick. Some of you were at this show, I have never heard it, but the story behind the show seems interesting. Last show before the Warfield.

Yes, do I think 1980 is still lost in space, (per Oroborous), absolutely!

Is it time for more? Let's hope. Giving this one a go.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 05:30

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Looks like DeadVikes has picked 9/6/80, which is a show I have never heard before either. Sounds like a pretty awesome day up in Maine! LOOOONNNG show, interesting setlist, let's do it!

I did a little fishing around the ol' Archive - there are a lot of copies of this one - and I picked two sources that sound pretty good. The first is a SBD/AUD Matrix, mastered by good man Charlie Miller:

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.sbd_aud.miller.25560.sbeok.shnf/…

The second is a straight AUD (looks to be a Jim Wise recording). In the quick sound comparison I did (a few minutes of China Cat, Shakedown, and Mexicali,) I think it sounds a little brighter overall, more bass, better balance, etc., though there is a bit of tape warble (at least I heard it on Mexicali...):

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.wise.unknown.322.sbeok.shnf/gd80…

On both copies the vocals, particularly Jerry's, sound pretty distant. If anyone knows of or finds a better source, please let me know!

Happy listening, HAPPY FRIDAY, and stay safe out there!

Peace

I'm in.. thanks dvikes.

I haven't listened to this show in forever and a day. I'm through the first set and still fumbling for the best version.

Anyway.. even though we just listened to a 79 this feels like a nice change of pace and hits the spot. I don't listen to a ton of 1980. I listened to the deadset centric shows to death decades ago and as much as I love the acoustic material, when I am in the mood, it's awesome but I must admit I like the electric edge.

Lately.. it's the Nov Dec run from 1980 that I find myself hitting the most.

Be kind folks.. it's Happy Friday where I sit. Been working a bit more than usual lately, planning on how to optimize my day. I should finish this show before my day is done, I might switch things up for Friday part 2.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:33

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Otis and Jim,

I listen through Relisten via my Sonos. The version I am listening to is a SBD/Aud, which was the first choice on the list. The vocals sound really clear as well as the rest of the band.
This definitely is not a new polished copy, imagine if it was?
Future release?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:44

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Great pick Dead Vikes. Well this certainly is a long show, and it starts out with great versions of Alabama/Greatest Story, the Dead are full of energy. Then they do a killer version of Sugaree. After a great 3 song start they play 7 songs that are very pedestrian and not much to write home about, Garcia's guitar playing sounds good on these songs but other than that, time to head to the beer garden and have a few beers. They get their energy back that they showed in the 1st 3 songs and end the 1st set with really great versions of China/Rider and Promised Land. Notes, not to fond of Brent's synthesizer playing on Alabama, Weirs slide playing on Little Red Rooster, not very enjoyable. Garcia's slide playing on Little Red Rooster is what always made the Dead's version cool, Weirs singing is ok, but pales in comparison to HowlinWolf.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:02

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Okay, so the recording goes to the audience portion at China Cat and there is a drop off for sure. Hope it goes back.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:30

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Fantastic choice. I love this show. I think it may be the best show from '80 that i've heard, but maybe because this aud is so good. Thanks Jim Wise!

Can't wait to listen to this show again. Lemieux, if you're follow this adventure we've been having over the last year so so, please put this show at the top of your list for release. 🤞

Edit: That Fox show from Atlanta (11-30-80) that was Dave's #8 was a very fine '80 show too.

Looking good Winthorpe!
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one? Love me some 80 Dead. Saw excellent show on 9/2, and we have the under the radar DL shows in between....
1/10/79: this one I’ve heard for the obvious reasons plus it’s a cousin to my first show 10 days later. Really dug this one. Is that TMNS set closer a rager er what? Did 1/11/79 too, but that one didn’t resonate as much, though I was busy...
Gonna try and get to some more 90s released stuff this weekend.
Happy Friday!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 12:26

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Killer 2nd set, I give it a 10 out of 10, excellent from.start to finish. Great choice Dead Vikes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:44

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I ended up listening to the soundboard for Set I and the Jim Wise for Set II. I wonder what happened to the rest of the board? In any case.. a nice palate cleanser and a hot show from a great year.

What's on tap today? Did we do 2/22/74 yet? I'm contemplating that one.. if we did that how about 2/23.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 09:18

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was listening to this early Dec. - 1st set ends with Death Don't Have No Mercy
1st set only (Charlie Miller / Sir Mick hands on) - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=103821 (tracking is off)
full show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=88884

and for tomorrow maybe head next door to Oregon State 1/17/70 - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/17

be well everybody - it may seem a ways off but spring is coming

I both have not listened to this before and do not have it in my electronic world.. I had this show confused with the Download Series #2 show, which was apparently just one set two days later, with a show in the middle (Oregon State University in Corvallis).

I am going with the Charlie Miller first set and the droncit?? version I cobbled together with the second set. The sound is nice.. if I have time I am going to do this one and the next two nights (Corvallis and the Digital Download Series 2 from the same venue).

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 10:48

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Great show! Thanks to vguy for the write ups, if I’d a been a little older that’s the kind of place I’d of gone the extra to get there. Always loved the outta the way venues. Bet the vibe was pretty chill. Oxford was fun, but I’m guessing way bigger/crazier then Lewiston.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 13:22

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...."plays a golden string fiddle to a double E waterfall over my back. Move it!!" Fuck yeah Jerry! Him getting all excited and shit makes me get all excited and shit.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:57

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Great pick, it would definitely be on my bbq and beer drinking list.

Move it!! (ha - hadn't caught that)

Both 1/16 and 1/17 kick heavy. Listened through the two again today. Sweet mix of Live Dead era and Working Man's. Sound quality overall is very good to excellent - a few drop outs but still totally satisfying. First time around that Death Don't came as a total and emotional surprise as I hadn't really scoped the set list. Not expecting 'cause its '70 - my aging deadbase shows its a second to last before the long hiatus. Among fine detail that caught my ear in the larger 1/16 excellence was some of that early Mickey percussion. Just now the 1/17 Dark Star > Stephen > Eleven was all systems go go go.
The Download Series is the one major gap in my "officially released" collection. Wasn't in the position to take advantage of at the time. Didn't even know about 1/18 being part of that. Need to revisit that series.
I think the Hawaii shows from following week were up here not too long ago but its been awhile since personally dived in so will head there soon. Looking forward to Fox Theatre - 2/6/70 (DaP 6) - one of my favorites. The whole 50th for Working Mans and American Beauty really got me going on this era.
Edit - didn't mention the cut to 1/16 Cumberland cause I didn't want that "small" negative to define it . . . . : )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 18:51

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Adding 1/17 only makes it better. These seem to be releasable shows, they might have to address the cuts somehow. Someone's singing is overly loud and off key in Cumberland too.., I think Bobby's. Perhaps his voice broke the tape like the shriek voice broke glass in that old Memorex commercial.

Good choice I had not heard these before. Nice Dark Star too.

Jim, you mentioned 2/22/74, yesterday. Let me know when you want to hit this one up? It is a three set monster.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 10:38

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I'm ready.. any time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 11:10

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Good call on this one Jim, I have it going.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 12:28

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....twist my arm.
Lmao. Jerry blowing the US Blues lyrics right out of the gate. Gotta love it. It's part of the charm.
"We're all confused. What's to lose."
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 22:01

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I forgot how good the PITB was from this show. I was in a great situation to listen today.. and about a third of the way into this song I felt it was ho, hum.. Another three minutes and I realized how wrong I was and good this Playing is..

Is this the first flirtations with Slipknot!? I forget if they played with the theme in '73 or not.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/18/2021 - 07:45

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....Cal Expo 8.5.89.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/08/05
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One More Saturday Night
Cold Rain & Snow
We Can Run
Stagger Lee
Memphis blues
Row jimmy
Let It Grow
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Hey Pocky Way ->
Playin' In The Band ->
I Know Your Rider ->
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Standing On The Moon ->
Throwing Stones ->
Not Fade Away
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US Blues
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Features a OMSN and CR&S one two punch opener and a stand alone Rider.
I was lucky enough to be present and accounted for at this run.