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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #6231
    DeadVikes
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    I will check it out. Thanks for the pick.
    Lost power and internet for a little while here in MN. Back up and running.

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    Bob T is in too!
    And I agree words fail & often.

    Let’s do it you all.

    I’m gonna fire it up and Walk In The Sunshine, wonder why they never played that ;)

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    What the hey..

    Since no one else is bitting, shall we go, you and I through the transitive nightfall of Cleveland???
    Similar thought at the time: who is this guy? The tubes? I would come to feel like it was not the best fit....though, in some ways my feelings aboutVince have mellowed. Would be ok if I never heard Way to go
    Home again, but as a support musician he was good (yasss some of his sounds where lame but much of that was out of his hands).
    Still think they should have taken some time off like 74-75....look how well that worked out! Either after Brent passed, or after JGs 92 health problems. I know the tour was booked in 90, but sometime, someway the should have tkjen time and regrouped, imho, which means nothing of course 😉
    So 9/7/90?
    That’ll give me a chance to backup the mighty Ref 3....haven’t done so in gulp, perhaps a couple years....
    Many reasons, none good except my relationship with Murphy and because my UPS needs new batteries and power here often does weird things so I didn’t want to attempt huge backup (acquired a ton of stuff last couple years) without UPS etc...so streaming on the iPad while doing HD backup sounds like a plan Stan!
    Just us today?

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    I saw these two shows, Vince's first two... 9/8 had a really good second set. 9/7 I don't even know how to describe the feeling if that makes sense??? Brent had passed a little more than a month before... Bob t

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    You were wrong!
    Just kidding... kinda. ;)
    It was OK, in fact got real good for a bit, but I guess nothing is.. are you ready?
    Built To Last
    (Groan)

    Coffee is starting to work.
    OB: You saw this one?
    Cold Rain opener, 14 minute Bird Song & US Blues to close Set 1.
    Truckin' > Crazy Fingers > 17 Minute PITB
    My interest is kinda peaked to re-listen.

    Yo Vinnie!
    Saw them close to two months later and had kind of the same feeling, but so much had changed in my life, I wasn't sure if it was them or me, or both. And yeah, Hornsby was there and he added a lot of color, I don't even think I knew who Vince was or his name.. some guy from the Tubes.

    Ah the good ole days of no cell phones and dare I say it, no internet.
    At least for me, I was late to get into this here thing called the WWW, didn't begin to crack this nut until 1992ish.

    Good stuff.
    Shall we go? Into the early days of Vince? It's a Monday, what the hell..

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    @9/7/90...my recollection was It was generally good, perhaps a bit subdued? I specifically remember thinking it’s going to be ok....this guys not Kieth or Brent, but he’ll be ok, and more importantly you could tell the Band was going to be ok and they’d picked up right where they left off...

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    As it should be.

    A lot of Love going on in the Dead world in Jerry's memory, it was real cool to see and be a part of (virtually). Hats off to Rex Foundation for the shindig.

    I watched bits and pieces (mostly the interviews) on Daze Between throughout the week. I really enjoyed the bookend interviews with the photographers, starting with Rosie McGee and capping it off with Herbie Greene, Ed Perlstein, Bob Minkin, Jay Blakesberg & Susana Millman, that was really cool.

    Really Enjoyed the 8/7 & 8/8 Alpine '82 shows, thanks BlueCrow! And thanks for the follow up info, it's interesting that you point out that Phil & Cippolina were LOUD there at the shows, which does correlate with why they'd be quite on the PA tapes. When it's loud on the stage, it'll tend to be quite on the PA tape and, yeah that's what we have.

    I'd always favored the 8/8, but that PITB > D > S > Wheel > PITB > Morning Dew is a really great listen, and I played it a few times, it'll take you places. And Set 1 is too much! So yeah, good stuff there, Nice Pick(s)!

    8/6/71 the famous Houseboat Tapes, It'd be nice to see that show get the full show treatment as it's pretty darn good throughout and I'm not hearing issues with the tape, but is that one of those things where they only got a few reels back? Curious curious.

    Interesting how we had some back to back 2004 - 2005 releases, DiP V31, DiP V32 and DiP V35, great liner notes for V31 & V35. Good stuff you all!

    Oh and let's not forget DaP V35, I see it's a bit of a sore subject, but I dug what I heard on my first pass.

    Well, should I mention the elephant in the room?

    1 Vince Show listened to since April 16, 2020

    I read a review the other day about 9/7/90 after listening to Brent 7/21/90 Shakedown Stream, they're saying it's a good one. I can't remember.

    Anybody got a pick?

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    If you consider Tinley Park as a Chicago show, then Brent’s last there too.

    7-5-15 Days Between seemed especially trippy. Very good light show from my view.
    There’s a short clip of it at about the 41:00 minute mark of this video.

    https://youtu.be/Oswmu2IOPEk

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    July 9, 1995; final Grateful Dead concert.
    July 5, 2015; Fare Thee Well final concert.
    March 11, 2020 Bob Weir and Wolf Brothers last concert of the year.

    On the edge of your city you’ll see us and then
    We come with the dust and we go with the wind

    Pastures of Plenty / Woody Guthrie

    July 23, 1990 / Lest we forget Brent / There’s something about Chicago

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    8/9 - somehow forgot the import of the date until I saw Strider's post. in '95 I was just beginning a whole new life chapter in the southwest, one that continues to this day. 8/9/95 actually started out with some very beautiful Grateful Dead energy, that turned very spooky once we found out about Jerry's death at the end of the work day. By chance had been back in Chi-town in early July visiting family and had caught the 2 Soldier Field shows, totally unplanned, brother had extra tickets. Whole different scene/planet from what I'd experienced in Seattle that spring. Seattle was fun and very well played. Chicago was seriously heavy. But still never expected the news of his death. And yes Strider - the Days Between is an absolute masterpiece. First heard it on the GD hour that featured Landover '93 (at time didn't know that my brother was there.) Hair stood up on end, super eerie, emotionally charged from that first listen - it is always like that. It seemed like Hunter somehow was shown the future that lay before us. For me in some ways as emotionally powerful as any song he wrote. Brings me close to tears anytime I hear it, or really even think about it.

    8/8 - GOGD - Alpine 82 - I was in the cheap "seats" on the lawn, but by 2nd set against rail at back of the shed. i don't "think" I was full on smoking crater but it was getting awfully close. agog as this force of nature swept past us, just drinking it in. remember Zakir throwing a drum stick at Mickey as he walked onto stage. Cippolina was just suddenly "there" and Healy had him dialed up loud, no fooling around. I had zero clue who those guys were. The Satisfaction was unreal - Phil was at 11 both in terms of sound and energy. The Brokedown that followed is my all time favorite. Left that show with Phil's bass tattooed across my brain. That show took me to a whole new level.

    8/7 - Oro, so glad you enjoyed the rediscovery! I don't know much about Phil and instrument history, I figured it was more of Healy thing. At the time, 8/8 made a bigger impression, but a couple of years later I was gifted with a killer low gen of 8/7 with most 2nd set and show opener and that further opened the door as to how magical 8/7 was. i ended up calling that cassette "Sacred Alpine" and it got more play than any tape in my collection back in the day, and that's a LOT. turned a bunch of folks onto it.

    8/6 - that Palladium show is crazy good, and its got a smoking Cumberland! A dub of the legendary bootleg record highlighting the 2nd set was one of my earliest tapes from a pre-hiatus show - love love love the sound from that era. in terms of sources - a wealth of riches there - the Bertrando audience is fantastic and that's where I generally head (there now in fact!) i think it was the source for the bootleg record.

    The night of 8/9/95 ended up camping with a friend in a canyon up on Cedar Mesa. I remembered 2 dreams from that night. 1) Jerry playing solo acoustic guitar to about 20 of us in a small room (sort of like the Rambler Room.) He was overweight, sweating, and he was pouring himself into it, giving everything he had. 2) I was on a stage with the rest of the band (no Jerry) watching them perform. I have a clear picture of that scene to this day, I was stage left in the wings, it was dusk, outdoors, no backdrop, lighting was all soft violets and silver, Phil was closest but still a good ways distance. The stage was HUGE and there was something like 40 meters between band members, as in, nobody was close. The music was unearthly and beautiful, but what they were playing wasn't the Grateful Dead.

    Love you Jerry.

    Take care and stay safe everyone. Time for a cold one!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:23

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History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

- Mark Twain

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:15

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Good show, I don't think it comes up to level of the Feb/March Fillmore West shows, but enjoyable for sure. Funny, as I listen to this I enjoyed Garcia's guitar playing , just the guitar playing, from yesterday's show 10/24/79, just as much as I enjoy his guitar playing from this show, 4/21/69. Anyway, great pick.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!?!

Well, I suppose I went just for the "pudding" yesterday, as I only listened to Set 2, but I did enjoy what I heard. I agree with those who point out that this is not the strongest show of the tour, but I just love this period, and I enjoyed the whole 2nd set. Flaming hot Fire, and even with the vocal flubs in Terrapin, the rest of the set flows nicely. Strong Wharf Rat too! I'm a fan of good sounding AUDs too, and this one certainly does sound pretty sweet.

4/21/69 - the first night of the Ark. I think I might cherry-pick this one with a few songs from set 1 (TOO Suite) and most of set 2 (I'll probably skip a good portion of Lovelight... currently ducking to avoid the tomatoes! :) I do LOVE Sitting On Top of the World!

Almost to hump day!

Peace

No tomatoes from me.

I appreciate Lovelight more as time passes, but it can get repetitive and....

Now the ones i have heard from march 68 and earlier bounce more instead of drag, which is a good thing

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 17:31

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I tend to love any dead that lasts long. Like pitb - lovelight - eyes - smokestack - alligator - and all that great stuff that you can listen to while partying or sex or both together. I know.... way too much info.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:51

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Wait a second Carlo, sex and the Dead. Okay, that cracked me up.

Wait a second honey, listen to this transition into I Know you Rider!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:57

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"Giddy-up." Like kramer would say.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:01

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Carlo, LOL, reminds me of when George was trying to have it all: sex, pastrami, AND the Yankees all at the same time!

69 no doubt is fine. Sitting on Top always welcome. But another in the “have to be in the mood” LL camp, but that doesn’t mean ya gotta throw grease! ; ) Did Viola seem a little underwhelming, or was that just me?

Did Ready or Not afterwards. Really digging this 90s stuff, well, not so much the Vince tunes....

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:31

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Since we just did the first night at the Ark, I was thinking we can mix the ying and the yang with some 1/10/79 from Nassau Coliseum. Honestly, one of my favorite second sets ever, and that speaks volumes. Pre Drums is a powerhouse.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:32

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Okay Josh, looks like a Dr. Bob Wagner audience recording for this show. I will check it out this afternoon. Thanks for the pick.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 07:24

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Nice pick JOSHBYTHEBAY

That Set 2 is always fun to listen too and it really hit the spot yesterday!
Enjoyed that.

I was struck by a few things as I usually am when I listen to this show.
First off the amazing recording by Dr. Bob!
Recording technique & equipment had some major advancement between say '73-'79.
Jerry sings "Sweet Susie” in Loser, that makes it for me.
Love how that Head on tape figures out it's gonna be Dark Star and you can hear the stoke!
Space was still an odd occurrence.

The reviewer in Taper's Compendium was at these shows and he was saying that rumors before the show were that they'd played Dark Star & St. Stephen recently. But he didn't really believe them because rumors were so wild back then.

Reading that I was struck thinking about it. Having grown up essentially always listening and loving 12/31/78 and considering it an upper echelon GD show and legendary. It's crazy to think of a time when Ten days after that show no one knew the set list, what happened or the songs played!

Simpler times... Fun to think about.
Golden age for information now (and misinformation too).

You're still here?!?

Well alright then, the other thing I was struck by...
The reviewer states the hotter show played was the next night 1/11/79

I gotta test that theory today as nothing on this setlist sticks out to me and I really don't recall listening to it often.

See what this show does for my memory.
Good Sugaree to start.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 21:33

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Looking at 9/6/1980 for tommorow's pick. Some of you were at this show, I have never heard it, but the story behind the show seems interesting. Last show before the Warfield.

Yes, do I think 1980 is still lost in space, (per Oroborous), absolutely!

Is it time for more? Let's hope. Giving this one a go.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 05:30

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Looks like DeadVikes has picked 9/6/80, which is a show I have never heard before either. Sounds like a pretty awesome day up in Maine! LOOOONNNG show, interesting setlist, let's do it!

I did a little fishing around the ol' Archive - there are a lot of copies of this one - and I picked two sources that sound pretty good. The first is a SBD/AUD Matrix, mastered by good man Charlie Miller:

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.sbd_aud.miller.25560.sbeok.shnf/…

The second is a straight AUD (looks to be a Jim Wise recording). In the quick sound comparison I did (a few minutes of China Cat, Shakedown, and Mexicali,) I think it sounds a little brighter overall, more bass, better balance, etc., though there is a bit of tape warble (at least I heard it on Mexicali...):

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.wise.unknown.322.sbeok.shnf/gd80…

On both copies the vocals, particularly Jerry's, sound pretty distant. If anyone knows of or finds a better source, please let me know!

Happy listening, HAPPY FRIDAY, and stay safe out there!

Peace

I'm in.. thanks dvikes.

I haven't listened to this show in forever and a day. I'm through the first set and still fumbling for the best version.

Anyway.. even though we just listened to a 79 this feels like a nice change of pace and hits the spot. I don't listen to a ton of 1980. I listened to the deadset centric shows to death decades ago and as much as I love the acoustic material, when I am in the mood, it's awesome but I must admit I like the electric edge.

Lately.. it's the Nov Dec run from 1980 that I find myself hitting the most.

Be kind folks.. it's Happy Friday where I sit. Been working a bit more than usual lately, planning on how to optimize my day. I should finish this show before my day is done, I might switch things up for Friday part 2.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:33

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Otis and Jim,

I listen through Relisten via my Sonos. The version I am listening to is a SBD/Aud, which was the first choice on the list. The vocals sound really clear as well as the rest of the band.
This definitely is not a new polished copy, imagine if it was?
Future release?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:44

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Great pick Dead Vikes. Well this certainly is a long show, and it starts out with great versions of Alabama/Greatest Story, the Dead are full of energy. Then they do a killer version of Sugaree. After a great 3 song start they play 7 songs that are very pedestrian and not much to write home about, Garcia's guitar playing sounds good on these songs but other than that, time to head to the beer garden and have a few beers. They get their energy back that they showed in the 1st 3 songs and end the 1st set with really great versions of China/Rider and Promised Land. Notes, not to fond of Brent's synthesizer playing on Alabama, Weirs slide playing on Little Red Rooster, not very enjoyable. Garcia's slide playing on Little Red Rooster is what always made the Dead's version cool, Weirs singing is ok, but pales in comparison to HowlinWolf.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:02

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Okay, so the recording goes to the audience portion at China Cat and there is a drop off for sure. Hope it goes back.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:30

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Fantastic choice. I love this show. I think it may be the best show from '80 that i've heard, but maybe because this aud is so good. Thanks Jim Wise!

Can't wait to listen to this show again. Lemieux, if you're follow this adventure we've been having over the last year so so, please put this show at the top of your list for release. 🤞

Edit: That Fox show from Atlanta (11-30-80) that was Dave's #8 was a very fine '80 show too.

Looking good Winthorpe!
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one? Love me some 80 Dead. Saw excellent show on 9/2, and we have the under the radar DL shows in between....
1/10/79: this one I’ve heard for the obvious reasons plus it’s a cousin to my first show 10 days later. Really dug this one. Is that TMNS set closer a rager er what? Did 1/11/79 too, but that one didn’t resonate as much, though I was busy...
Gonna try and get to some more 90s released stuff this weekend.
Happy Friday!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 12:26

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Killer 2nd set, I give it a 10 out of 10, excellent from.start to finish. Great choice Dead Vikes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:44

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I ended up listening to the soundboard for Set I and the Jim Wise for Set II. I wonder what happened to the rest of the board? In any case.. a nice palate cleanser and a hot show from a great year.

What's on tap today? Did we do 2/22/74 yet? I'm contemplating that one.. if we did that how about 2/23.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 09:18

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was listening to this early Dec. - 1st set ends with Death Don't Have No Mercy
1st set only (Charlie Miller / Sir Mick hands on) - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=103821 (tracking is off)
full show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=88884

and for tomorrow maybe head next door to Oregon State 1/17/70 - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/17

be well everybody - it may seem a ways off but spring is coming

I both have not listened to this before and do not have it in my electronic world.. I had this show confused with the Download Series #2 show, which was apparently just one set two days later, with a show in the middle (Oregon State University in Corvallis).

I am going with the Charlie Miller first set and the droncit?? version I cobbled together with the second set. The sound is nice.. if I have time I am going to do this one and the next two nights (Corvallis and the Digital Download Series 2 from the same venue).

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 10:48

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Great show! Thanks to vguy for the write ups, if I’d a been a little older that’s the kind of place I’d of gone the extra to get there. Always loved the outta the way venues. Bet the vibe was pretty chill. Oxford was fun, but I’m guessing way bigger/crazier then Lewiston.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 13:22

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...."plays a golden string fiddle to a double E waterfall over my back. Move it!!" Fuck yeah Jerry! Him getting all excited and shit makes me get all excited and shit.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:57

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Great pick, it would definitely be on my bbq and beer drinking list.

Move it!! (ha - hadn't caught that)

Both 1/16 and 1/17 kick heavy. Listened through the two again today. Sweet mix of Live Dead era and Working Man's. Sound quality overall is very good to excellent - a few drop outs but still totally satisfying. First time around that Death Don't came as a total and emotional surprise as I hadn't really scoped the set list. Not expecting 'cause its '70 - my aging deadbase shows its a second to last before the long hiatus. Among fine detail that caught my ear in the larger 1/16 excellence was some of that early Mickey percussion. Just now the 1/17 Dark Star > Stephen > Eleven was all systems go go go.
The Download Series is the one major gap in my "officially released" collection. Wasn't in the position to take advantage of at the time. Didn't even know about 1/18 being part of that. Need to revisit that series.
I think the Hawaii shows from following week were up here not too long ago but its been awhile since personally dived in so will head there soon. Looking forward to Fox Theatre - 2/6/70 (DaP 6) - one of my favorites. The whole 50th for Working Mans and American Beauty really got me going on this era.
Edit - didn't mention the cut to 1/16 Cumberland cause I didn't want that "small" negative to define it . . . . : )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 18:51

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Adding 1/17 only makes it better. These seem to be releasable shows, they might have to address the cuts somehow. Someone's singing is overly loud and off key in Cumberland too.., I think Bobby's. Perhaps his voice broke the tape like the shriek voice broke glass in that old Memorex commercial.

Good choice I had not heard these before. Nice Dark Star too.

Jim, you mentioned 2/22/74, yesterday. Let me know when you want to hit this one up? It is a three set monster.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 10:38

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I'm ready.. any time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 11:10

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Good call on this one Jim, I have it going.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 12:28

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....twist my arm.
Lmao. Jerry blowing the US Blues lyrics right out of the gate. Gotta love it. It's part of the charm.
"We're all confused. What's to lose."
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 22:01

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I forgot how good the PITB was from this show. I was in a great situation to listen today.. and about a third of the way into this song I felt it was ho, hum.. Another three minutes and I realized how wrong I was and good this Playing is..

Is this the first flirtations with Slipknot!? I forget if they played with the theme in '73 or not.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/18/2021 - 07:45

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....Cal Expo 8.5.89.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/08/05
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One More Saturday Night
Cold Rain & Snow
We Can Run
Stagger Lee
Memphis blues
Row jimmy
Let It Grow
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Hey Pocky Way ->
Playin' In The Band ->
I Know Your Rider ->
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Standing On The Moon ->
Throwing Stones ->
Not Fade Away
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US Blues
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Features a OMSN and CR&S one two punch opener and a stand alone Rider.
I was lucky enough to be present and accounted for at this run.