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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Who Shot the Water Buffalo is a great book by Ken Babbs. The title has a funny twist , double meaning. Any of us old time wild land firefighters knows what it refers to. Once they get to that point in the book.
    Pick of the day. I have been staying on the 50th anniversaries of 1971 Dead shows since January. Otherwise taking a break from Grateful Dead music. Kind of like smoking ganga all the time. The effect may become lack luster. As was said in the old days, “space your trips”. Although yesterday I did watch the black & white video of Robert Hunter sitting in with the Garcia Band 1980 at the New Jersey Capitol Theater. Tiger Rose “where the children play ringolevio”.
    Speaking of books, “Ringolevio” by Emmett Grogan was one of Jerry Garcia’s favorite books.
    On the subject of the mountain west states. Ironic that the people who lost the most , true Natives and in the case of Montana where I lived from 1975-1981 the Blackfeet treated me the best. Very similar here in New Mexico where I’ve lived most of my life. But respect has to be earned and that doesn’t happen overnight.
    As an old professor Joseph E. Brown who taught Native American Studies at the University of Montana used to finish his class by saying, “Be of good heart”.

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    To Mr JG. Hope yer digging the jam...

    STRIDER: thanks for the tales, always a pleasure!
    Your Yale description let’s us be there, instead of in our mind.

    Interesting show. CM SB Audio started out less than stellar but was pretty good bye and bye...
    Really dug the Dark Star, perhaps the spaciest of the year so far?
    Perhaps this show is a slight step back from some of the earlier beasts, but it’s another solid, very enjoyable 71!

    4/12/83: glad you liked it DV. This one goes under the radar, which is a shame, as I think it hangs with most any other on the tour. Among other highlights, forgot about that sweet Rat!
    Of course I’m big time biased on this one;
    - My 10th show
    - front row between Phil and Bob (closer to Phil)
    - first show tripping (purple dot I believe, had beautiful death experience)
    - first time seeing new, awesome varilights etc
    - first time hearing, awesome new Meyers PA
    - first time seeing/hearing Phil’s new awesome Modulus 6 string bass (perhaps new Bob guitar?)
    - first Help/Slip/Franks, which besides slight early vocal hiccup was awesome
    - first (I think?) NFA fadeaway/chant to end, then Mickey came back out and they quietly pick back up and fade back into for encore NFA, followed by sweet Baby Blue!
    One of those shows that even after the lights came up nobody moved right away, many still doing the chant! The kind of night where it appeared like A LOT of people were tripping, total 10k mind meld, gives me shivers to recall....

    BABS memoir, bet that’ll be interesting!
    Loved Last Go around, and that bus one, but don’t have Water Buffalo?
    Guess we’ll have to talk to Santa about some books...

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    I listened to the complete July 31, 1971 yesterday late afternoon and into the the night. Aside from my copy of Road Trips that is only part of that Dead show I had never heard the complete concert since being there 50 years ago. There was a fresh new sound that brought a flood of memories during last nights listen. First a couple quick corrections. I mentioned Pigpen stepping out in front during the third song. Obviously he was playing the Hammond B3 organ while singing Mr Charlie. Another correction is from reading the notes of Blair Jackson in Dead Base 50. Blair states that the audience rushed the stage during the first song Truckin’ but it was indeed the third song, Mr Charlie when people poured on to the grass in front of the band. My friend Danno who I have stayed in touch with for over 50 years also correlates that sequence of events. Practically nobody danced during the first two songs. It was as if it was a high school dance where hardly anyone was wanting to be the first up and dancing.
    On a side note the best writers involved in the history of the Grateful Dead in my biased opinion are Blair Jackson, David Gans and Dennis McNally. I have to include Rosie McGee in that mix as combined writer and photographer who was there from the beginning (or damn close) of course add in the books by Jerilyn Lee Brandelius (GD family album) , Phil Lesh (Searching for the Sound) , any of the books written by Mickey Hart ( Song Catchers my favorite) Bill Kreutzmann’s book with ghost writer Benjy Eisen. Must include John Barlow autobiography. So much for book reviews
    What struck me about 7/31/71 was the high energy that comes through. Jerry is candid as in effervescent, both singing, playing and commentary with the audience.
    Another aspect I remember was the moon was out, and I looked this up on the internet, it was waxing gibbous at 60% illumination.
    Another important note, my old school classmate and friend Missy Infante attended her first Dead show that night. I mention her to honor her memory as she passed on in recent years.
    So those are some of the flashes I can remember from Yale Bowl, July 31, 1971.
    This was at a time when I was earning money cutting oak for firewood. It was how I paid for my first trip to the Bay Area a few days later to visit my sister who was living in Sausalito. That trip included my first two west coast Dead shows that were at the Berkeley Community Theater mid August and then hitchhiking to Oregon to visit my brother and his wife who were spending the summer living in a tipi 35 miles southeast of Eugene. But that’s a whole other story.
    Yale Bowl Grateful Dead was an amazing night.
    Jerry Garcia would have been 79 today. Also, today Ramblin’ Jack Elliot turns 90.
    “ Rollin with my baby down by the San Francisco Bay”.

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    That is cool Strider. I will have to check that Ken Babbs book out. Gunther your kid is waiting for you at the Kiddie corral.

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    I do remember I might have been the only person dancing for the first song 50 years ago. Up for Truckin’. Sugaree was a first. Then Pigpen brought the house down.
    My old friends Mr Jimmy, Theresa and Dan were also there. Same three friends also at Veneta a year later. Speaking of Veneta, Ken Babbs’ memoirs to be published later this year. Ken Babbs was central to the Veneta performance, not GJ or the so called “pole guy”. Had historians taken time to learn about the gentleman on top of the douglas fir they may have discovered how he was central to many of the mind manifesting discoveries of the old original hippie days of western Oregon. As were more than a few assorted players, movers and shakers, from several different camps, school's or philosophies.
    V-Guy, here here on Santa Fe 1983. Maybe my favorite two Dead shows I attended through the 80s. Part of the reason being I lived north of Taos and it was all down-hill from there.
    Down hill with Jean-Claude Killy, Goin’ South with Jack Nicholson .

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    Still working my way through 4/12/83 and it is sounding good so far. Will need to to finish up tomorrow and then on to Yale Bowl, 7/31/71. If memory serves a chunk of this is on RT1. 3...

    If Doc is the King of 71, Oroborous is the sage of 83. Looking forward to your take and everyone else's on #39.
    Did I hear correctly from Dave that Norman used Plangent for this release?

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    I'm all in Strider. Good call.

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    Right On Strider!

    I was literally just looking at my Deadbase and thinking it was time for ole Doc to illuminate us again, and now that we know you were there it makes it’s that much more fun!

    Oh Great Doctor, where out thou?
    Oh, I was looking back at my spring 83 notes after the announcement, and totally agree with what the wise one recently stated: Providence was top shelf fo sho!

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    Another 50 coming up. That was my first outdoor Grateful Dead concert. I used to think it was Hard to Handle when the audience rushed the stage. Looking at the set list it had to have been Mr Charlie as I know it was the third song when Pigpen stepped out in front and electricity (allegorical) burst forth to the crowd. I also remember being down in front of the stage when they played Dark Star / Bird Song.
    Highly recommended for a listen tomorrow.

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    Looks like mines scheduled for Tuesday, we shall see?
    Interestingly received notice, but took a few days for tracking to kick in...

    Hopefully DV yours will just magically show up this WE!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 06:42

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Well, Keith's last and Brent's first show that this band is still Truckin'

Pretty amazed at how quick Brent assimilates into the band, but then again Keith did that too.
Musicians!

If you listen to the 4/19/79 rehearsals, it sounds to me like the band is stoked to be playing and changing things up. Lotsa clowning around and jamming.

And 4/22 is solid. Killer Other One and yeah that Passenger is on fire.

Might have to dust off DaP V23 on it's anniversary and head down to Eugene ala '78.

Unless somebody got another Pick to kick.

When's that DaP V37 shipping... should be soon, no?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 07:16

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Yes, GOGD, we are a week out from the released on date of next Friday. Given how the shipping went last year, I won't predict when we will receive it. I am hoping by next Friday, but not counting on it. I would think Dave's video will be released next Friday when the individual copies go on sale.

Let's do Dave's 23, it is a great release.

Stay well.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 07:16

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....i just listened to this show the other day, but I'm game for a revisit.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 07:46

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Roy Neary - [contemplating the lump shape]

Sweet!
I don't think I've given this much play since I got it.
Maybe a quick once through.

I should probably watch Close Encounters again.
Don't think I've seen that since I was a kid.

Thanks VGuy for taking one for the team and DeadVikes for the refresh on the new release deets, getting excited!

I'm in. Getting a late start, but taking an unplanned half day from work and loading up the truck for an adventure. We have good temps and good snow, heading for the backcountry for a day of solitude, music and unbelievable scenery.. plus I will be getting a good workout which is hard to do in the winter of covid. If I see another person where I am going, it would surprise me.

Good thing and thanks to you guys.. I will have some good tunes (and more than a healthy buzz)

Be good all.

One last comment.. it's refreshing how we just breezed through the last show with Keith/Donna and the first show with Brent without anyone making some ridiculous or offensive comment. Productive and sane comments about two great periods of Grateful Dead music.. and no one caught there hair on fire and no one stunk up the room in stupid incendiary comments.

Thanks all.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 08:30

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Mark me down for it. (I’m down with it) the new expression must have been born from the older.
Waiting to add to the discussion when the 50th anniversary of the Capitol Theater shows roll around. I hope those will be Picks of the Day next month.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 08:42

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I had the incredibly good fortune to be there

I still have a piece of paper I wrote on after the show. it reads:

I WAS THERE
MAGIC STRUCK!
7/13/84
Documented!
I WAS BEYOND
I SAW!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 08:55

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Proudfoot, I was there too, what a blast!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 09:12

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Plangent/Norman, for sure, but let’s get the multi-tracks out! Those capital shows are a good example of how (FOR ME) good multi track sources take shows I wouldn’t necessarily consider, and make them go toos!

CARLO: 😀

Yassss....release it ALL!

GOGD: it’s called practice, that and being enthused! That was alooonnng show! You could tell they were itching to play, but seems like anytime they rehearsed regularly, good things happened. I was at Vince’s first show and was surprised how integrated he already was. All three had what?...a month to learn enough to do gigs....yeah, that’s called practice!

DV: hey, as long as it arrives...

JIM: so it was you up in NW merry land who got the magic ticket!...this is just your cover story for disappearing!
But before you go buying that Elmondo-grosso water bed, barko lounger with magic fingers, and the Jensen turntable with the Pickering cartridge, or the leather bond edition of the entire playboy collection featuring Hugh Hefner.....shmuck....with that kinda cash you could probably buy the vault! Just saying....; )

7/13/84: yeah really need that, 12/31/81, 1/10/79, and 1/20/79......but I’m sure no tapes : (

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 09:38

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.....I stopped Eugene and going with Proudfoot's pick.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 11:44

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Great 1st set. The only reason I can think that this show hasnt been released, is because they are saving it for a Greek Box set, because this show should have been released along time ago. I dosed at this show and washed it down with a bottle of Bergungdy, that was the progam back then. On to set two.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 14:48

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Sounds just as good as it did 37 years ago, Im glad I was there. The show pretty much speaks for itself, it was definitely fun. Great pick Proudfoot.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 01/22/2021 - 15:09

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I finished McArthur Court, I should be able to squeak in at least the first set of 7/13/84.

Ha.. no, OroB. I do not have the magic ticket, but I know the town the ticket was purchased at quite well. It wasn't far away from where I went to college. Back then it was a dry on Sunday county (that changed decades ago), but we used to go to this rundown bar in Lonaconing called Truly's. If you knew the secret word they would sell you beer on Sundays. It is a tiny, dirt poor town in the Appalachians. If you blink.. you will miss it and the people there have been dirt poor ever since they shut down the coal mines about 100 years ago.

My mind is spinning knowing someone that was more than likely way below the poverty line is now walking around town with 3/4 of a Billion Dollars in folding money in their wallet.

My advice.. don't spend it all in once place.. or better yet, Californy is the place you aught to be so load up the truck and move to Beverly (Hills that is..)

Edit: For anyone with interest, some history. Look for The Big Vein, and for VGuy, it's got a Cumberland (or two)..
http://www.miningartifacts.org/Maryland-Mines.html

Lot a poor man got the Cumberland Blues..

...who mentioned Stockhausen, but I have got a few albums authored by him. Of the music I have got "Gesang Der Junglinge" is the most startling. Quite scary if you are feeling sensitive.

I actually saw him live once. He made the single most offensive comment I think I have ever heard at a live concert. And I speak as one who saw numerous punk gigs between 1976-1978. People seemed initially stunned , then started booing. It was an odd concert all round - the music off one of his albums-"Hymnen" was played.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 01/23/2021 - 04:18

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If you like vocal music I would recommend ‘Stimmung’. A fascinating piece for six voices.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 01/23/2021 - 07:41

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On the DVD ‘Dawn of the Grateful Dead’ TC says that he and Phil were into Stockhausen.

I always thought Seastones, more than most electronic music recorded by rocks groups that I have heard, seemed to be influenced by Stockhausen. And lest we forget, he was on the cover of Sergeant Pepper.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/23/2021 - 11:43

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....I'm playing Dave's 24 Berkeley 8.25.72. Dive on in. The waters fine.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/23/2021 - 12:19

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I finally just did 3/20/92. Was @ but hadn’t gotten around to it, or much of boxilla...
I remember this being a good show and it was ; )

1/22/78: hadn’t heard this one pretty much since it came out. Played it a ton then as I was home liquidating the folks estate for 2 months and only had limited number of shows with me. Yeah, that show helped me through many a long day!

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 01/23/2021 - 14:12

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I was lucky to start a new job in the middle of December. So busy being a new guy and learning the ropes!!! I did listen to 2/22/74 Winterland and the 7/13/84 show but only set II... I have to agree they missed the boat by releasing 2/24/74 as a stand alone.. Bob t

....it delivered.
That Friend Of The Devil is pure butter.
Congrats on the new gig Bob T. You sound positive, so now I do too.
First measurable rain occurred yesterday in Vegas since 4.20.20. It was a welcome deluge.
Makes sense. Snow flurries forecast next week.
Cold Rain and SNOW!!! Lol

I am a big fan of this show. I listen to it a lot and it never disappoints. This was part of the ABCD transaction as well as the three previous nights. Black Peter, Birdsong and Truckin never disappoint in 1972. Nice work Vguy!
Good to hear from you Bob t and congrats on your new gig. Did you tell your new employer you need time to listen to the Dead?

Hopefully next week we will all see a new show in the mailbox.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 01/24/2021 - 06:24

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Great show from start to finish, very enjoyable. My brother went to 8/24/72. This whole run would have made a nice box set.. Great pick!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/24/2021 - 11:50

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(which is not beneath me).

Stolen from the other thread (the subscription page?). It's doc inspired. I see no reason not to let the sun shine on the 50th anniversary of this date in GD history.

1-24-71 Seattle Center Arena

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/24/2021 - 16:37

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Jim, I going to check it out, it might have to be tomorrow morning. Looks like a short show or some of the material is missing.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 01/24/2021 - 17:36

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is on archive

Full show

I think it is one long set

Good playing

Satisfying like a good pizza

50 years ago today here in Seattle

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 01/25/2021 - 08:51

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Cool show, Pig Pen sounds really strong. Because of the two drummers, I don't associate this with being a show from 1971, since most of 1971 they only had one drummer.. Cool pick.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Mon, 01/25/2021 - 10:43

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Looks like there isn't a show up for today yet. There's been a good amount of '79 lately, and I propose continuing the Brent era party with a fall show at a long time favorite venue, the Spectrum.

https://archive.org/details/gd79-11-06.sbd.miller.29735.flac16

This one is noteworthy to me because of Phil's relative volume in the mix.

This was Road Trips 1.1 that i missed on the first go around. I'm hoping to pick it up from Real Gone when they re-release it.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 01/25/2021 - 11:09

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second set

the first two tracks are sstteellllaarr

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 01/25/2021 - 12:19

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Okay Slow Dog, let's get that one going. Thanks for the pick.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 01/25/2021 - 14:09

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Perhaps my favorite 79 show...definitely my favorite one released!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 01/25/2021 - 20:04

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After enjoying 10 1 and 14 94 i got out 6 13. Pretty paint by numbers, but with a nice Terrapin and Morning Dew.

Space went on a bit too long, to be honest

I for one like the 94 sound. Show intensity varies, of course.

27 years ago....SHEETMON.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 01/26/2021 - 06:28

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There was something magical happening 53 years ago in Seattle.

Epic Alligator

1/26/68 is worth a spin.

Would have loved listening to these shows with Dick Latvala!

Anybody got a line on Dick talking about the PNW '68 shows shoot it over.
He had to have something to say about them.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 01/26/2021 - 06:50

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I could easily do this show today... but I am not seeing any versions that circulate.

Did some of this come through on the found 8 track bonus material on the 2/14/68 Road Trips??

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 01/26/2021 - 07:19

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My disc says 1 22 68, not 26

As does archive, after a quick look

fwiw

Eagles is still there...I drive past it every so often

and I dreeeeeeam...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 01/26/2021 - 08:35

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They played there and some (all??) of it was recorded on early multi-track 8 Track tapes. It would be wild if any of this surfaced in a full show format.

Or, since GOGD is the only known person to have 1/26, he must be the one sitting on these master reels.

Cough them up GOGD, rumor has it an angry mob is gathering at the Piggly Wiggly's down the street.. They want your tapes, give them to us before it's too late. We need more 1968!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 01/26/2021 - 09:00

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Listen to... this :)

Yeah, I forgot that show circulates as 1/22/68, I thought the date had been changed in the listings.
There's speculation around the date and they've always been confusing.
I'm pretty sure those shows happened on 1/26 & 1/27/68 based on the posters that exist.

So 1/22 or 1/26/68, give it a spin. Alligator!

And... no missing master reels.
However, I'll tell ya a story....
My kid's friend's Dad (say that a bunch) saw the show on 2/4/68 in Ashland that doesn't circulate.
Can't even imagine Ashland in 1968 with the GOGD!
Must've been a riot.

Super small town at the base of Mt. Ashland & it still felt like it was off the map in 1995ish.
I used to live next to the College campus back in the mid '90s.
It was an awesome party house and it's there that I threw the biggest Halloween Rager ever one year!!
It was off the hook, this guy fell off the roof a riot broke out.
Ashland had a party vortex going on, probably still does.
Ah youth.
Good times, great oldies.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/26/2021 - 12:43

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What a cool show, start to finish. This one should definitely be an official release. 3rd Dark Star, 1st China 🐱 ever. Excellent pick GOGD, I've never heard this one before. I would love to see the whole The Great Northwest Tour released, I know people say that not all the tapes are there, but the only people that really know are the people that work in the vault, so hopefully these tapes will all show up as other tapes have that were supposed to be missing. Again, killer show, all the releases from 1968 have been compete knockouts.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 01/26/2021 - 13:00

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BTK - one of my favorites!
Stoked to turn you on to it.
Agree that the PNW '68 tour would be a cool release.
I'm partial to '68.

As for the tapes in the vault, I'm pretty sure what circulates came from the "Honeymoon Tapes".
Which, if you don't already know about, I'll tell you.
Lay it on me.
From what I've read, the tapes were swiped from Gans' hotel room while he was on his honeymoon.
I believe Gans had made copies of them from the Vault to review for the show.
And that's how they began to circulate.
Happy to hear otherwise, or more deets if anybody has them.
But that's what I heard / read.

I always liked that story. Not because of the theft, but just because I find it interesting how these tapes get out.

Anyway, Glad you got to hear it BTK, that pick was for you!

Nice show Slow Dog. A lot of great shows in 79 and some not so hot. .....
Always interesting to hear those early versions of Easy To Love You. Man, Brent's voice went through a lot of changes throughout the years.

And the sound quality on this one is fantastic. Love it.