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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    8.20.87 starts with Addams Family Tuning....

    ....tis the time of the season.

  • The Good Ole G…
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    Park City '87 here we come

    Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

    Start digging out that Vault Avalanche BlueCrow or grab your favorite relisten app.

    We're heading to Utah 8/20/87 to party with you!

  • DeadVikes
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    81 and Today's Pick

    Thanks for the recommendations guys, I will add them to my ever growing list. Yes, the recordings! What could have been, but it looks like Miller has done some good work.

    8/20/87 looks like a winner to me. I definitely want to check this one out.

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    1981 & Today's Pick

    1981 is totally worth checking out.

    February Uptown shows are fun.
    I might need to revisit March.
    May is killer, the band is hot and the shows are hot. 5/6/81 is a good example of what you can find there.
    Starting with the 4/25/81 acoustic Benefit sans Phil, every show rolling through 5/22/81 acoustic Benefit is in my opinion worth hearing / owning.
    Then the July shows are real good too, especially 7/4.
    Greek shows in September also deserve a nod.
    2nd European tour of the year is hit or miss and the recordings def have issues like Jim was saying, but 10/16 is an all time Wowser.
    And then December has some good stuff. In particular 12/3 and the NYE run with 12/26, 12/27 & 12/31 as stand outs.

    I dig '81. And really had fun collecting that year as I wasn't that familiar with it prior to that.
    There are a lot of those killer hidden gems of the 1980s in there.
    So yeah, if you liked yesterday's pick, which I was digging, then dig in!
    Lotsa good stuff.

    Speaking of... on the GD Hour today we've got.. wait for it..
    3/13/81
    Big slinky Shakedown to start it off. Nice

    Alright, you all making me want to stay in '81 all day.

    Or is it time to head to Utah and groove to 8/20/87?

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    Deadvikes, 81

    Lots of good 81 out there.
    Try 3-9-81, that is a good sounding recording, and I love the Deep Elem.

    Also, I assume that you are aware that there is video of 3-28-81, if not check it out on YouTube.

    Feb 81 Chicago
    Rainbow Theater (or is it Theatre?), London

    There is plenty from 81 available for release.

    Edit:
    Jim makes a good point about audio quality, and I haven’t listened to those shows in a while so they may sound better in my memory than they do in your reality.

    Just imagine where we would be today if the band had dumped Healy and kept Betty.......

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    Much better than Dave's 20. Completely agree. 81 is a weird year, the recordings are so spotty. DiP 13 is a diamond in the rough that year and it's no wonder it was culled to be one of the early Dicks Picks. The European tours in particular just don't convey to great sounding concert recordings which is a shame because on a whole the two tours were hot.

    Clearly Dave's #20 was picked more because it was a reel and not a cassette master, at least if you compare to all the other factors. There were hotter shows that year. It seems to be viewed by many as one of the weakest of the Dave's Picks series. DiP 13 on the other hand is hot.

    81 was midway through the downward slide of the cassette mastered recordings. I know there are a lot of fans of the Ultra Mixes Dan was doing. It's great if you like them, I wish I was so patient.. but I miss the crisp sounding, high fidelity boards. We lost them for whatever reasons with Healy at the wheel. The 80's would be a different beast altogether if they were better recorded. My opinion, not to be confused with fact.

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    5/6/81, Dick's 13

    I really like this show and the sound quality is really good. I haven't listened to this complete show in a long time. This is pre HDCD. I think this show is better than the other 81 release, Dave's 20, December 81.
    I haven't spent much time with 81 shows but I think I need to. I believe they performed close to 90 shows in 81 and you rarely hear people talk about 81.

    Check it out if you haven't listened in a while, several highlights. He's Gone Caution Jam is sweet. Really like this Wharf Rat. Oh and the secret bonus tracks!

    Would be interested to hear your thoughts of 81? There is a lot of material.

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    Ever wonder... question 10/20/74

    Hey everyone.... just finishing up listening to the last Winterland show from October 74. Has anyone ever heard why they played Half Step, after the first encore of Johnny B Goode.... They go right into We Bid You Goodnight right at the end of Half Step... Just curious. Seems random considering it could have been the "last" show... Overthinking in Rhode Island...

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    Missed that one.. and I could have caught it, I was in the neighborhood (sort of). Caught red rocks and telluride though. Had a blast.. My sister got married that year so I had to head East, that could be what curtailed my adventure. I can't for the life of me think of why I would have missed that one. I'd love to see it get cleaned up, the board sounds better to me than Hartford does. ..but what do I know.

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    a lot of great shows in '87. Park City is one of those great shows. I saw Red Rocks, then Tempe, before heading back east. I think a lot of folks skipped Park City and went to Cali, as Park City really doesn't ever get mentioned in talk of that little western tour. What ever source for that tape was super sweet spot in terms of its energy, fullness, and sense of being right up front - in my "memory" best sounding '87 tape i had back in the day by a bit. I'd have to pull it out from the vault, set up a cassette player, for an A/B with uploaded sources. That part of the vault is sort of avalanched in right now, but still thinking its an FOB, possibly source 4 on relisten, but really don't know. listened to that yesterday(?) and now again, and its seems mighty fine.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Well, Keith's last and Brent's first show that this band is still Truckin'

Pretty amazed at how quick Brent assimilates into the band, but then again Keith did that too.
Musicians!

If you listen to the 4/19/79 rehearsals, it sounds to me like the band is stoked to be playing and changing things up. Lotsa clowning around and jamming.

And 4/22 is solid. Killer Other One and yeah that Passenger is on fire.

Might have to dust off DaP V23 on it's anniversary and head down to Eugene ala '78.

Unless somebody got another Pick to kick.

When's that DaP V37 shipping... should be soon, no?

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Yes, GOGD, we are a week out from the released on date of next Friday. Given how the shipping went last year, I won't predict when we will receive it. I am hoping by next Friday, but not counting on it. I would think Dave's video will be released next Friday when the individual copies go on sale.

Let's do Dave's 23, it is a great release.

Stay well.

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....i just listened to this show the other day, but I'm game for a revisit.

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Roy Neary - [contemplating the lump shape]

Sweet!
I don't think I've given this much play since I got it.
Maybe a quick once through.

I should probably watch Close Encounters again.
Don't think I've seen that since I was a kid.

Thanks VGuy for taking one for the team and DeadVikes for the refresh on the new release deets, getting excited!

I'm in. Getting a late start, but taking an unplanned half day from work and loading up the truck for an adventure. We have good temps and good snow, heading for the backcountry for a day of solitude, music and unbelievable scenery.. plus I will be getting a good workout which is hard to do in the winter of covid. If I see another person where I am going, it would surprise me.

Good thing and thanks to you guys.. I will have some good tunes (and more than a healthy buzz)

Be good all.

One last comment.. it's refreshing how we just breezed through the last show with Keith/Donna and the first show with Brent without anyone making some ridiculous or offensive comment. Productive and sane comments about two great periods of Grateful Dead music.. and no one caught there hair on fire and no one stunk up the room in stupid incendiary comments.

Thanks all.

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Mark me down for it. (I’m down with it) the new expression must have been born from the older.
Waiting to add to the discussion when the 50th anniversary of the Capitol Theater shows roll around. I hope those will be Picks of the Day next month.

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I had the incredibly good fortune to be there

I still have a piece of paper I wrote on after the show. it reads:

I WAS THERE
MAGIC STRUCK!
7/13/84
Documented!
I WAS BEYOND
I SAW!

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Proudfoot, I was there too, what a blast!

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Plangent/Norman, for sure, but let’s get the multi-tracks out! Those capital shows are a good example of how (FOR ME) good multi track sources take shows I wouldn’t necessarily consider, and make them go toos!

CARLO: 😀

Yassss....release it ALL!

GOGD: it’s called practice, that and being enthused! That was alooonnng show! You could tell they were itching to play, but seems like anytime they rehearsed regularly, good things happened. I was at Vince’s first show and was surprised how integrated he already was. All three had what?...a month to learn enough to do gigs....yeah, that’s called practice!

DV: hey, as long as it arrives...

JIM: so it was you up in NW merry land who got the magic ticket!...this is just your cover story for disappearing!
But before you go buying that Elmondo-grosso water bed, barko lounger with magic fingers, and the Jensen turntable with the Pickering cartridge, or the leather bond edition of the entire playboy collection featuring Hugh Hefner.....shmuck....with that kinda cash you could probably buy the vault! Just saying....; )

7/13/84: yeah really need that, 12/31/81, 1/10/79, and 1/20/79......but I’m sure no tapes : (

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.....I stopped Eugene and going with Proudfoot's pick.

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Great 1st set. The only reason I can think that this show hasnt been released, is because they are saving it for a Greek Box set, because this show should have been released along time ago. I dosed at this show and washed it down with a bottle of Bergungdy, that was the progam back then. On to set two.

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Sounds just as good as it did 37 years ago, Im glad I was there. The show pretty much speaks for itself, it was definitely fun. Great pick Proudfoot.

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I finished McArthur Court, I should be able to squeak in at least the first set of 7/13/84.

Ha.. no, OroB. I do not have the magic ticket, but I know the town the ticket was purchased at quite well. It wasn't far away from where I went to college. Back then it was a dry on Sunday county (that changed decades ago), but we used to go to this rundown bar in Lonaconing called Truly's. If you knew the secret word they would sell you beer on Sundays. It is a tiny, dirt poor town in the Appalachians. If you blink.. you will miss it and the people there have been dirt poor ever since they shut down the coal mines about 100 years ago.

My mind is spinning knowing someone that was more than likely way below the poverty line is now walking around town with 3/4 of a Billion Dollars in folding money in their wallet.

My advice.. don't spend it all in once place.. or better yet, Californy is the place you aught to be so load up the truck and move to Beverly (Hills that is..)

Edit: For anyone with interest, some history. Look for The Big Vein, and for VGuy, it's got a Cumberland (or two)..
http://www.miningartifacts.org/Maryland-Mines.html

Lot a poor man got the Cumberland Blues..

...who mentioned Stockhausen, but I have got a few albums authored by him. Of the music I have got "Gesang Der Junglinge" is the most startling. Quite scary if you are feeling sensitive.

I actually saw him live once. He made the single most offensive comment I think I have ever heard at a live concert. And I speak as one who saw numerous punk gigs between 1976-1978. People seemed initially stunned , then started booing. It was an odd concert all round - the music off one of his albums-"Hymnen" was played.

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If you like vocal music I would recommend ‘Stimmung’. A fascinating piece for six voices.

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On the DVD ‘Dawn of the Grateful Dead’ TC says that he and Phil were into Stockhausen.

I always thought Seastones, more than most electronic music recorded by rocks groups that I have heard, seemed to be influenced by Stockhausen. And lest we forget, he was on the cover of Sergeant Pepper.

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....I'm playing Dave's 24 Berkeley 8.25.72. Dive on in. The waters fine.

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I finally just did 3/20/92. Was @ but hadn’t gotten around to it, or much of boxilla...
I remember this being a good show and it was ; )

1/22/78: hadn’t heard this one pretty much since it came out. Played it a ton then as I was home liquidating the folks estate for 2 months and only had limited number of shows with me. Yeah, that show helped me through many a long day!

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Love that release!!
Was just swimming in another excellent Other One meltdown from 7-1-73 Universal Amphitheatre -
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1973/07/01.
Earlier this morning was listening to some Stockhausen. New to me and I was blown away at how completely out there it was. 1950s??!!

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I was lucky to start a new job in the middle of December. So busy being a new guy and learning the ropes!!! I did listen to 2/22/74 Winterland and the 7/13/84 show but only set II... I have to agree they missed the boat by releasing 2/24/74 as a stand alone.. Bob t

....it delivered.
That Friend Of The Devil is pure butter.
Congrats on the new gig Bob T. You sound positive, so now I do too.
First measurable rain occurred yesterday in Vegas since 4.20.20. It was a welcome deluge.
Makes sense. Snow flurries forecast next week.
Cold Rain and SNOW!!! Lol

I am a big fan of this show. I listen to it a lot and it never disappoints. This was part of the ABCD transaction as well as the three previous nights. Black Peter, Birdsong and Truckin never disappoint in 1972. Nice work Vguy!
Good to hear from you Bob t and congrats on your new gig. Did you tell your new employer you need time to listen to the Dead?

Hopefully next week we will all see a new show in the mailbox.

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Great show from start to finish, very enjoyable. My brother went to 8/24/72. This whole run would have made a nice box set.. Great pick!

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(which is not beneath me).

Stolen from the other thread (the subscription page?). It's doc inspired. I see no reason not to let the sun shine on the 50th anniversary of this date in GD history.

1-24-71 Seattle Center Arena

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Jim, I going to check it out, it might have to be tomorrow morning. Looks like a short show or some of the material is missing.

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is on archive

Full show

I think it is one long set

Good playing

Satisfying like a good pizza

50 years ago today here in Seattle

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Cool show, Pig Pen sounds really strong. Because of the two drummers, I don't associate this with being a show from 1971, since most of 1971 they only had one drummer.. Cool pick.

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Looks like there isn't a show up for today yet. There's been a good amount of '79 lately, and I propose continuing the Brent era party with a fall show at a long time favorite venue, the Spectrum.

https://archive.org/details/gd79-11-06.sbd.miller.29735.flac16

This one is noteworthy to me because of Phil's relative volume in the mix.

This was Road Trips 1.1 that i missed on the first go around. I'm hoping to pick it up from Real Gone when they re-release it.

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second set

the first two tracks are sstteellllaarr

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Okay Slow Dog, let's get that one going. Thanks for the pick.

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Perhaps my favorite 79 show...definitely my favorite one released!

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After enjoying 10 1 and 14 94 i got out 6 13. Pretty paint by numbers, but with a nice Terrapin and Morning Dew.

Space went on a bit too long, to be honest

I for one like the 94 sound. Show intensity varies, of course.

27 years ago....SHEETMON.

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There was something magical happening 53 years ago in Seattle.

Epic Alligator

1/26/68 is worth a spin.

Would have loved listening to these shows with Dick Latvala!

Anybody got a line on Dick talking about the PNW '68 shows shoot it over.
He had to have something to say about them.

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I could easily do this show today... but I am not seeing any versions that circulate.

Did some of this come through on the found 8 track bonus material on the 2/14/68 Road Trips??

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My disc says 1 22 68, not 26

As does archive, after a quick look

fwiw

Eagles is still there...I drive past it every so often

and I dreeeeeeam...

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They played there and some (all??) of it was recorded on early multi-track 8 Track tapes. It would be wild if any of this surfaced in a full show format.

Or, since GOGD is the only known person to have 1/26, he must be the one sitting on these master reels.

Cough them up GOGD, rumor has it an angry mob is gathering at the Piggly Wiggly's down the street.. They want your tapes, give them to us before it's too late. We need more 1968!

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Listen to... this :)

Yeah, I forgot that show circulates as 1/22/68, I thought the date had been changed in the listings.
There's speculation around the date and they've always been confusing.
I'm pretty sure those shows happened on 1/26 & 1/27/68 based on the posters that exist.

So 1/22 or 1/26/68, give it a spin. Alligator!

And... no missing master reels.
However, I'll tell ya a story....
My kid's friend's Dad (say that a bunch) saw the show on 2/4/68 in Ashland that doesn't circulate.
Can't even imagine Ashland in 1968 with the GOGD!
Must've been a riot.

Super small town at the base of Mt. Ashland & it still felt like it was off the map in 1995ish.
I used to live next to the College campus back in the mid '90s.
It was an awesome party house and it's there that I threw the biggest Halloween Rager ever one year!!
It was off the hook, this guy fell off the roof a riot broke out.
Ashland had a party vortex going on, probably still does.
Ah youth.
Good times, great oldies.

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What a cool show, start to finish. This one should definitely be an official release. 3rd Dark Star, 1st China 🐱 ever. Excellent pick GOGD, I've never heard this one before. I would love to see the whole The Great Northwest Tour released, I know people say that not all the tapes are there, but the only people that really know are the people that work in the vault, so hopefully these tapes will all show up as other tapes have that were supposed to be missing. Again, killer show, all the releases from 1968 have been compete knockouts.

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BTK - one of my favorites!
Stoked to turn you on to it.
Agree that the PNW '68 tour would be a cool release.
I'm partial to '68.

As for the tapes in the vault, I'm pretty sure what circulates came from the "Honeymoon Tapes".
Which, if you don't already know about, I'll tell you.
Lay it on me.
From what I've read, the tapes were swiped from Gans' hotel room while he was on his honeymoon.
I believe Gans had made copies of them from the Vault to review for the show.
And that's how they began to circulate.
Happy to hear otherwise, or more deets if anybody has them.
But that's what I heard / read.

I always liked that story. Not because of the theft, but just because I find it interesting how these tapes get out.

Anyway, Glad you got to hear it BTK, that pick was for you!

Nice show Slow Dog. A lot of great shows in 79 and some not so hot. .....
Always interesting to hear those early versions of Easy To Love You. Man, Brent's voice went through a lot of changes throughout the years.

And the sound quality on this one is fantastic. Love it.