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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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March 7, 2023 - 8:03am

#1251

Oroborous

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Onward

Hmmm, thought I did 2/23/70?
Well, I’m onto 3/31/73 at the moment, so I’ll have to check the above out later…

3/30/73 was a mixed bag. 1st set pretty 73 status quo, but unfortunately the recording wasn’t very good.
Second set (Eaton/Miller) sounded much better, and like the spring shows we’ve checked out the second set brings the goods! Besides the awesome Truckin jams, Eyes etc, these GSET have been smoking on this tour.
Not a bad show, but perhaps not top shelf.
EDIT: day late and a dollar short…looks like upgraded version mislabeled as 9/30/73.

This 3/31 sounds better and exhibiting nice energy from the start! (So far).

3/27/93: enjoyed. Not a bad show. Long/short I had sorta wrote 93 off, but I’ve heard about a half dozen now that have all been good, if not top shelf, which is fine. Hey, they all can’t be “the best”!
I got the Boxilla music only addition in 2018 in the midst of a shit storm I’ll never forget. I did manage to get it all ripped, but still haven’t heard them all, most, but not all. This show was one of them, so it was nice to finally check it out. Nice Bucket Bertha open, but Same Thing kinda brings it down for me. Never really liked this song no matter who did it, I guess I like the Bands version off of Jericho, and I guess it was a needed change from some of the blues tunes Bob beat to death! Really fast PEGGY O. Ons that plod too much aren’t great, but too fast doesn’t seem to work for this song? Good Jane, like Broken Arrow, but Phil’s trying to hard: I’ve heard better for sure. Fun Lucy, but as someone posted recently elsewhere, it’s like a different song. I don’t mind, and it’s a good version. Decent Cassidy followed by the last Casey Jones, which reminds me, what happened to Casey Janes? Love the tie dye bra, thanks again!
CJ not a burner, but fun surprise none the less.
Second set highlights include an Eyes opener, nice Days Between, OMSN closer, IFTL, which i used to think was a tad short and cheesy for a “real” encore, but years later it’s kinda fun. Jer sounds like he’s having a good show and the pinnacle has to be the Sweet Comes A Time which shows he could still bring it on occasion!
Don’t know the year well or well enough to really compare but would say I liked this one but perhaps not as much as the excellent show from 3/17/93, or 3/24/93 which was a nice VGUY POTD, but better than 9/13/93, which of course is on Dave’s list lol. Buckeye and Boo fah fa low are decent, and I remember thinking the RT from Cal X was a nice surprise. So like most years, there’s always something, just gotta poke around!
March 5, 2023 - 6:53pm

#1252

bluecrow

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2/23/70 Austin

Wowza- A beautiful, "gentle respite in the oasis of Austin" to quote Rockthing from a few pages back. Another acoustic set jewel from early '70. very very sweet. that Me and My Uncle reminds me of Other Ones 8/29/2000 Fiddlers Green when Bobby brought out the acoustic for MAMU (> Ripple) and I really really dug it and thought wow that's the energy and sound forMAMU that was missing all those years. LIttle Sadie, Black Peter, Seasons of the Heart, Uncle Johns. Love it.
March 5, 2023 - 5:23am

#1253

rockthing

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Yeah, Maine is pretty much…

Yeah, Maine is pretty much Alaska when it comes to those tapes. Those could alll go together nicely. The thought definitely crossed my mind.

From what I remember, I don't see the Alasaka high... school tape needs anything . Just got get it!.
March 5, 2023 - 1:25am

#1254

Forensicdoceleven

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All generalizations are false, including this one……

Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Winterland March 5 1972 (American Indian Benefit)

There is a charm about the forbidden that makes it unspeakably desirable. This is not forbidden to you. That being said, I’m not saying you SHOULD listen to this. In fact, I’m not even saying you COULD listen to this. Because, frankly, this is one tough listen!!

First of all, it’s very “incomplete”, with extensive audience patches, including almost half of the first set. Second, the soundboard portion sounds like, well, like it’s been stomped on.

And speaking of “incomplete”, the second set seems incredibly short, although it does have some cool jamming in the Good Lovin’. Is there a reel missing?

With so many good 1972 recordings, what happened with this one? Perhaps it shall be a “returned reels” release one day…………

The right word may be effective, but no word was ever as effective as a rightly timed pause….

Rock on,

Doc
When your friends begin to flatter you on how young you look, it's a sure sign you're getting old…..
March 4, 2023 - 8:03pm

#1255

bluecrow

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so my pick

of the last hour was the KPFA marathon - Dark Star > Jack Straw > Sing Me Back Home (9/10/72)

holymotherofgoodness
March 4, 2023 - 6:24pm

#1256

DeadVikes

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Alaska 1980

I would think the cassette masters with Plangent would be pretty good.
They sure sounded great with the MSG Box.

I will check out 3/30/73 tomorrow OB.

Hopefully repeats are okay. Not sure where I was during that period, asleep at the wheel, most likely.
March 4, 2023 - 3:12pm

#1257

Oroborous

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Grateful Day eh!

After groovin on the 83 Greek shows last couple daze, hit 4/17/83, 3/3/71, and currently doing highlights from 11/18/78…

Tomorrow thinking bout 3/30/73, with 9/27/93 extra credit!
That oughta be an interesting juxtaposition.

Greek 83:
Solid WE! Starts out good, but seems to get better as they go. The shows I’ve heard from there seem to do that?
Second night, second set seemed the peak to me, but I enjoyed them all, and all were solid!

4/17/83: hadn’t heard this one in a loonngg time. They definitely come ready to rock, but occasionally their unbridled enthusiasm leads to some slop. H/SF illustrates this as their smoking, but not tight on the transitions etc. Now sometimes you can hear them let off the gas or hesitate slightly when that occurs, not here, mere speed bump that does not wan their enthusiasm a bit lol. The SS tunes are fun, but more loose than I even remember.
An enjoyable show, but I wouldn’t call it top tear? I can perhaps see why Dave didn’t pick this one.
Still think tour kudos go to Providence, Morgantown, Hampton, Binghamton, and of course the Dap Rectum show.

3/3/71: one of the ten or so outta the whole year I didn’t hit in 2021, so good to check that box.
Recording starts out great, inconsistent in other spots. Always dig a good HTH, and it’s fun to hear the still evolving new stuff.

11/18/78: checked the Bible and it was noted as a BC POTD and after my listen I considered it good.
Rehashing some highlights as we speak, and yes Mick, we need more cowbell! Hey, any of you Headphone folks out there catch what all the hubbub after Heart of Me between Billy and ?…, several FUs etc and other unmentionable comments…at first I thought it was serious, but upon review maybe their joking around. At one point you can hear several voices tossing FUs around lol.
That sequence BC digs is mos def the peak of this one, good sheet Mon!
Onward!

Oh, Alaska, dug that run in 2020. Would be nice as part of 1980 super box!
Hey, might only be so many left, I say let’s start stocking up and don’t be stingy with the shows boss!

ISTSHOW: never done any eBay or online stuff, just a Dino I guess lol.
Does look like there’s some reasonable choices, but…I’ve done some black market pickups via uncle Jeffry just cause it’s easy and hopefully reliable, but the prices are usually higher. Figure if some kind soul can burn me 1, 4, and especially 7, I can prolly afford 14, 15, 20 on the black market. That’d give me at least copies of all, with officials from 13 onward…someday : )

Ok, think I’m caught up? How bout Jimbo, things settling down for ya yet?

Continuing with my unheard spring 73, hoping to hit 3/30/73 from good ole Crotchfester mañana with a 3/27/93 dip into extra credit!
March 4, 2023 - 10:10am

#1258

Forensicdoceleven

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Nobody is accidentally in Alaska....

Hey rockers!!

Just finished 3 autopsies. Just another day at work..........

Not a huge fan of 1980, but those Alaska shows would make a fine box set. Maybe they could squeeze Lewiston in there somehow, Maine is sorta like Alaska, yes????

Rock on,

Doc
When performing an autopsy, even the most inveterate spiritualist would have to question where the soul is........
March 4, 2023 - 9:38am

#1259

icecrmcnkd

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Baked Alaska Box

What would be people’s preference, Plangentized cassette masters only, or matrix them like 11-30-80?

I’m not sure what I would want. Plangentizing the cassette masters may make them sound pretty good by themselves. Adding a little audience might help, might not.
Maybe Dave/Rhino should give us a song from the tour in each form and let us vote.
Box artwork could be Alaskan art, similar to what was done for the PNW Box.

I liked that run of shows. Sometimes it sounded like December 79, sometimes like Fall 80.
March 4, 2023 - 9:11am

#1260

1stshow70878

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Thanks DV

A second follow up reply now in PM to you.
Cheers

Lots to catch up on here on POTD. Good thing as it's snowing again. Six out of the last eight days so far. Not much accumulation here at 5800 ft. but the San Juans look gorgeous. My buddy in Crested Butte has had 100 inches just in January, and 280 inches for the season as of Feb 28. Should help greatly with the severe drought. And March used to be our snowiest month. We'll see.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Brent & Keith

Well, Keith's last and Brent's first show that this band is still Truckin'

Pretty amazed at how quick Brent assimilates into the band, but then again Keith did that too.
Musicians!

If you listen to the 4/19/79 rehearsals, it sounds to me like the band is stoked to be playing and changing things up. Lotsa clowning around and jamming.

And 4/22 is solid. Killer Other One and yeah that Passenger is on fire.

Might have to dust off DaP V23 on it's anniversary and head down to Eugene ala '78.

Unless somebody got another Pick to kick.

When's that DaP V37 shipping... should be soon, no?

Dave's 37

Yes, GOGD, we are a week out from the released on date of next Friday. Given how the shipping went last year, I won't predict when we will receive it. I am hoping by next Friday, but not counting on it. I would think Dave's video will be released next Friday when the individual copies go on sale.

Let's do Dave's 23, it is a great release.

Stay well.

Eugene 1.22.78....

....i just listened to this show the other day, but I'm game for a revisit.

This means something. This is important.

Roy Neary - [contemplating the lump shape]

Sweet!
I don't think I've given this much play since I got it.
Maybe a quick once through.

I should probably watch Close Encounters again.
Don't think I've seen that since I was a kid.

Thanks VGuy for taking one for the team and DeadVikes for the refresh on the new release deets, getting excited!

Twist my arm...

I'm in. Getting a late start, but taking an unplanned half day from work and loading up the truck for an adventure. We have good temps and good snow, heading for the backcountry for a day of solitude, music and unbelievable scenery.. plus I will be getting a good workout which is hard to do in the winter of covid. If I see another person where I am going, it would surprise me.

Good thing and thanks to you guys.. I will have some good tunes (and more than a healthy buzz)

Be good all.

One last comment.. it's refreshing how we just breezed through the last show with Keith/Donna and the first show with Brent without anyone making some ridiculous or offensive comment. Productive and sane comments about two great periods of Grateful Dead music.. and no one caught there hair on fire and no one stunk up the room in stupid incendiary comments.

Thanks all.

1/22/78

Mark me down for it. (I’m down with it) the new expression must have been born from the older.
Waiting to add to the discussion when the 50th anniversary of the Capitol Theater shows roll around. I hope those will be Picks of the Day next month.

my first pick of the day is 7/13/84

I had the incredibly good fortune to be there

I still have a piece of paper I wrote on after the show. it reads:

I WAS THERE
MAGIC STRUCK!
7/13/84
Documented!
I WAS BEYOND
I SAW!

7/13/84

Proudfoot, I was there too, what a blast!

Misc replies

Plangent/Norman, for sure, but let’s get the multi-tracks out! Those capital shows are a good example of how (FOR ME) good multi track sources take shows I wouldn’t necessarily consider, and make them go toos!

CARLO: 😀

Yassss....release it ALL!

GOGD: it’s called practice, that and being enthused! That was alooonnng show! You could tell they were itching to play, but seems like anytime they rehearsed regularly, good things happened. I was at Vince’s first show and was surprised how integrated he already was. All three had what?...a month to learn enough to do gigs....yeah, that’s called practice!

DV: hey, as long as it arrives...

JIM: so it was you up in NW merry land who got the magic ticket!...this is just your cover story for disappearing!
But before you go buying that Elmondo-grosso water bed, barko lounger with magic fingers, and the Jensen turntable with the Pickering cartridge, or the leather bond edition of the entire playboy collection featuring Hugh Hefner.....shmuck....with that kinda cash you could probably buy the vault! Just saying....; )

7/13/84: yeah really need that, 12/31/81, 1/10/79, and 1/20/79......but I’m sure no tapes : (

Abort, abort....

.....I stopped Eugene and going with Proudfoot's pick.

If pronouncing my b's as v's makes me sound Russian....

....then soviet.

7/13/84. 1st set

Great 1st set. The only reason I can think that this show hasnt been released, is because they are saving it for a Greek Box set, because this show should have been released along time ago. I dosed at this show and washed it down with a bottle of Bergungdy, that was the progam back then. On to set two.

7/13/84 2nd set

Sounds just as good as it did 37 years ago, Im glad I was there. The show pretty much speaks for itself, it was definitely fun. Great pick Proudfoot.

7/13/84 and my Magic Ticket

I finished McArthur Court, I should be able to squeak in at least the first set of 7/13/84.

Ha.. no, OroB. I do not have the magic ticket, but I know the town the ticket was purchased at quite well. It wasn't far away from where I went to college. Back then it was a dry on Sunday county (that changed decades ago), but we used to go to this rundown bar in Lonaconing called Truly's. If you knew the secret word they would sell you beer on Sundays. It is a tiny, dirt poor town in the Appalachians. If you blink.. you will miss it and the people there have been dirt poor ever since they shut down the coal mines about 100 years ago.

My mind is spinning knowing someone that was more than likely way below the poverty line is now walking around town with 3/4 of a Billion Dollars in folding money in their wallet.

My advice.. don't spend it all in once place.. or better yet, Californy is the place you aught to be so load up the truck and move to Beverly (Hills that is..)

Edit: For anyone with interest, some history. Look for The Big Vein, and for VGuy, it's got a Cumberland (or two)..
http://www.miningartifacts.org/Maryland-Mines.html

Lot a poor man got the Cumberland Blues..

Who was it that mentioned Stockhausen?

I had my virgin listen just now

Woooow man...

It wasn't me..

...who mentioned Stockhausen, but I have got a few albums authored by him. Of the music I have got "Gesang Der Junglinge" is the most startling. Quite scary if you are feeling sensitive.

I actually saw him live once. He made the single most offensive comment I think I have ever heard at a live concert. And I speak as one who saw numerous punk gigs between 1976-1978. People seemed initially stunned , then started booing. It was an odd concert all round - the music off one of his albums-"Hymnen" was played.

Stockhausen

If you like vocal music I would recommend ‘Stimmung’. A fascinating piece for six voices.

Stockhausen

On the DVD ‘Dawn of the Grateful Dead’ TC says that he and Phil were into Stockhausen.

I called up stockhausen on youtube

and gesang der junglinge came up first

I heard elements of Zappa, Revolution 9, and Seastones in there

Gesang der junglinge

Bear in mind that this piece is from 1955 - 56.

Stockhausen-Beatles-Dead

I always thought Seastones, more than most electronic music recorded by rocks groups that I have heard, seemed to be influenced by Stockhausen. And lest we forget, he was on the cover of Sergeant Pepper.

Pick of the Day

Pick of the Day?

Who has one for today?

You still out there Bob t?

Pick....

....I'm playing Dave's 24 Berkeley 8.25.72. Dive on in. The waters fine.

Should Hit the Spot

That one's sure to please.

Today

I finally just did 3/20/92. Was @ but hadn’t gotten around to it, or much of boxilla...
I remember this being a good show and it was ; )

1/22/78: hadn’t heard this one pretty much since it came out. Played it a ton then as I was home liquidating the folks estate for 2 months and only had limited number of shows with me. Yeah, that show helped me through many a long day!

Berkeley - Roses for Breakfast - 8-25-72

Love that release!!
Was just swimming in another excellent Other One meltdown from 7-1-73 Universal Amphitheatre -
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1973/07/01.
Earlier this morning was listening to some Stockhausen. New to me and I was blown away at how completely out there it was. 1950s??!!

Berkeley Community 72

On it Vguy. Thanks.

Thanks Deadvikes still here

I was lucky to start a new job in the middle of December. So busy being a new guy and learning the ropes!!! I did listen to 2/22/74 Winterland and the 7/13/84 show but only set II... I have to agree they missed the boat by releasing 2/24/74 as a stand alone.. Bob t

Berkeley Community down the hatch....

....it delivered.
That Friend Of The Devil is pure butter.
Congrats on the new gig Bob T. You sound positive, so now I do too.
First measurable rain occurred yesterday in Vegas since 4.20.20. It was a welcome deluge.
Makes sense. Snow flurries forecast next week.
Cold Rain and SNOW!!! Lol

Dave's 24

I am a big fan of this show. I listen to it a lot and it never disappoints. This was part of the ABCD transaction as well as the three previous nights. Black Peter, Birdsong and Truckin never disappoint in 1972. Nice work Vguy!
Good to hear from you Bob t and congrats on your new gig. Did you tell your new employer you need time to listen to the Dead?

Hopefully next week we will all see a new show in the mailbox.

8/25/72

Great show from start to finish, very enjoyable. My brother went to 8/24/72. This whole run would have made a nice box set.. Great pick!

Shamelessly Stolen

(which is not beneath me).

Stolen from the other thread (the subscription page?). It's doc inspired. I see no reason not to let the sun shine on the 50th anniversary of this date in GD history.

1-24-71 Seattle Center Arena

There is no 1.24.71 in my DeadBase....

There is a 1.25 though.

1/24/71

Jim, I going to check it out, it might have to be tomorrow morning. Looks like a short show or some of the material is missing.

1 24 71

is on archive

Full show

I think it is one long set

Good playing

Satisfying like a good pizza

50 years ago today here in Seattle

1/24/71

Cool show, Pig Pen sounds really strong. Because of the two drummers, I don't associate this with being a show from 1971, since most of 1971 they only had one drummer.. Cool pick.

11-6-79

Looks like there isn't a show up for today yet. There's been a good amount of '79 lately, and I propose continuing the Brent era party with a fall show at a long time favorite venue, the Spectrum.

https://archive.org/details/gd79-11-06.sbd.miller.29735.flac16

This one is noteworthy to me because of Phil's relative volume in the mix.

This was Road Trips 1.1 that i missed on the first go around. I'm hoping to pick it up from Real Gone when they re-release it.

11 6 79

second set

the first two tracks are sstteellllaarr

11/6/79

Okay Slow Dog, let's get that one going. Thanks for the pick.

11/6/79

Perhaps my favorite 79 show...definitely my favorite one released!

6 13 94

After enjoying 10 1 and 14 94 i got out 6 13. Pretty paint by numbers, but with a nice Terrapin and Morning Dew.

Space went on a bit too long, to be honest

I for one like the 94 sound. Show intensity varies, of course.

27 years ago....SHEETMON.

Eagles Auditorium

There was something magical happening 53 years ago in Seattle.

Epic Alligator

1/26/68 is worth a spin.

Would have loved listening to these shows with Dick Latvala!

Anybody got a line on Dick talking about the PNW '68 shows shoot it over.
He had to have something to say about them.

1/26/68

I could easily do this show today... but I am not seeing any versions that circulate.

Did some of this come through on the found 8 track bonus material on the 2/14/68 Road Trips??

Eagles 68

My disc says 1 22 68, not 26

As does archive, after a quick look

fwiw

Eagles is still there...I drive past it every so often

and I dreeeeeeam...

Eagle

They played there and some (all??) of it was recorded on early multi-track 8 Track tapes. It would be wild if any of this surfaced in a full show format.

Or, since GOGD is the only known person to have 1/26, he must be the one sitting on these master reels.

Cough them up GOGD, rumor has it an angry mob is gathering at the Piggly Wiggly's down the street.. They want your tapes, give them to us before it's too late. We need more 1968!

If you get confused...

Listen to... this :)

Yeah, I forgot that show circulates as 1/22/68, I thought the date had been changed in the listings.
There's speculation around the date and they've always been confusing.
I'm pretty sure those shows happened on 1/26 & 1/27/68 based on the posters that exist.

So 1/22 or 1/26/68, give it a spin. Alligator!

And... no missing master reels.
However, I'll tell ya a story....
My kid's friend's Dad (say that a bunch) saw the show on 2/4/68 in Ashland that doesn't circulate.
Can't even imagine Ashland in 1968 with the GOGD!
Must've been a riot.

Super small town at the base of Mt. Ashland & it still felt like it was off the map in 1995ish.
I used to live next to the College campus back in the mid '90s.
It was an awesome party house and it's there that I threw the biggest Halloween Rager ever one year!!
It was off the hook, this guy fell off the roof a riot broke out.
Ashland had a party vortex going on, probably still does.
Ah youth.
Good times, great oldies.

I'm going to forgo the '68 pick....

....and back track to Doc's January 1971 recommendations. Playing ketchup.

1/22/68. WOW!

What a cool show, start to finish. This one should definitely be an official release. 3rd Dark Star, 1st China 🐱 ever. Excellent pick GOGD, I've never heard this one before. I would love to see the whole The Great Northwest Tour released, I know people say that not all the tapes are there, but the only people that really know are the people that work in the vault, so hopefully these tapes will all show up as other tapes have that were supposed to be missing. Again, killer show, all the releases from 1968 have been compete knockouts.

The Quick & The Dead '68

BTK - one of my favorites!
Stoked to turn you on to it.
Agree that the PNW '68 tour would be a cool release.
I'm partial to '68.

As for the tapes in the vault, I'm pretty sure what circulates came from the "Honeymoon Tapes".
Which, if you don't already know about, I'll tell you.
Lay it on me.
From what I've read, the tapes were swiped from Gans' hotel room while he was on his honeymoon.
I believe Gans had made copies of them from the Vault to review for the show.
And that's how they began to circulate.
Happy to hear otherwise, or more deets if anybody has them.
But that's what I heard / read.

I always liked that story. Not because of the theft, but just because I find it interesting how these tapes get out.

Anyway, Glad you got to hear it BTK, that pick was for you!

11/6/79

Nice show Slow Dog. A lot of great shows in 79 and some not so hot. .....
Always interesting to hear those early versions of Easy To Love You. Man, Brent's voice went through a lot of changes throughout the years.

And the sound quality on this one is fantastic. Love it.