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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

    David Lemieux
    October 2020

    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • JimInMD
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    I Subscribed, I expect I will for the foreseeable future

    Not blind loyalty, I really like the music. Even the 'lesser' shows get occasional, usually pleasant relistens, there's usually a nugget or thee of truth in there somewhere. My advice, pony up for the early bird pricing and let the chips fall where they may. Easy breezy.

    We all should feel free to express our opinions, all views are welcome. It would make for a more enjoyable read if we can find a way to get our point across without slashing and burning the entire forest. It stinks in here.., or as my French teacher Mrs. Feldman used to say, "c'est odeur affreuse"

    Their business model is their business, our choice is to buy or not.. I don't think there is much we can write in these forums that will influence their short or long term decision making. Sales and purchase behavior are what they pay attention to. In almost all cases the music is already out there for free, ready to be enjoyed without much effort at all so you rarely have to buy physical product to listen and enjoy. I fully support their efforts to clean up, preserve and restore the now mostly ancient recordings and make them as good as they can be. These mastered recordings are part of an important historical record. The Band and Rhino have a responsibility to clean them up and preserve them to the best extent they can. This likely means the next ten releases will not be the next ten you want released, more like the ten that best fit this purpose.., in the end it will even out and those ten shows will get released. If that takes a cento out of my pocket each year, I'd call that a bargain.

    Where were we again..
    We are really due for a '69, fall '72 or a fall/summer '73. These are prime candidates for the second release slot of the year and offer bonus disc potential. In another month or so we will get news on #38. My guess is it's going to be a smoker.

  • daverock
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    Snafu

    I would hope no one would send you hate mail for expressing an opinion. Your truth isn't my truth, but that's no cause for concern.

  • snafu
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    What's a circle jerk antifa?

    Well for those that need an explanation.... while antifa is certainly not a joke in my usage that's what I used it as. Circle jerk, yea I can see why the couple of dozen it refers would claim ignorance. As far as being harsh, not nice etc. Huh? The circle I was referring to were the same people who abuse and accuse the people who give us so much pleasure of heinous corrupt actions including the following making money, designing a business plan that allows us to enjoy so much etc.
    Dreading I'm sorry if you took any flak for stating the econ 101 basics. But me well someone needs to speak the truth clearly. Now you haters can start the obscene pms

  • Gratefulhan
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    Happy Life Day!

    For those that may know its Life Day today...
    I am going to go for the Jammy Trinity of 11/17/71, 11/17/72, and 11/17/73. I may cap it off with both of the 11/17/78 affairs. Finally 11/17 happens in 1985, so I may add that to the mix as I do have that 85 affliction. It may take me a few days to get through it all but its worth it.

    Also has anyone listened to the 30 Day of Dead selection for today? Its got a bommin' Shakedown.

  • Oxford 88
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    Nice to see the era- wars…

    Nice to see the era- wars have calmed... Onto the business model! Love you all, miss the banter... It's all about the music, right?

  • Maine Dave
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    Once upon a time...

    Once upon a time I went to a concert. I don't remember the band but they were really good. I bought a ticket and --check this crazy shit out -- I didn't even know what songs they were going to play ahead of time. Trippy, right? So then I went to the venue and they turned down the lights and the band came out and they had their instruments and everything and the crowd started yelling and then it was like, wait, wait, what song are they playing? We don't even know yet! And then they played a song and then when they finished that one they started playing another one and they didn't even announce what all the others were going to be even then. They just started playing it. You'd probably recognize which song I mean, it's the one with the guitar solo.

    So anyway... the whole concert was like that, it was like, here's another song now. And they didn't announce a single one beforehand. Try wrapping your head around that! My mind was seriously blown. But the thing is... it was kind of fun, you know? I mean, I liked the band, pretty much, so even if every single song wasn't their best one, there was still a pretty good chance that I would dig it, or a part of it at least.

    That was the only concert I went to that was all crazy and backwards like that. All the others were normal -- you know, like when I went to buy the ticket, they provided a set list, in order, of all the songs they would play, before I handed over the money. So, I knew exactly what I would be getting, which is obviously way better and way more fun, because it sucks all the spontaneity and surprise out of the experience of hearing music, which is after all the whole point. So I'm glad that most of the time, I had all my musical experiences curated for me beforehand, because it meant that I never had to listen to something unexpected. 'Cause man, I hate that.

    Hey, has anyone heard Green Lung? Great pagan-metal stoner rockers from the UK. Cheesy as hell and super fun.

  • hendrixfreak
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    Whining wins, readers lose...

    With all the unmitigated crap-ola on our plates today, some few have to turn this site into a bitch-fest about the subscription model? Seriously? It's been the model for years. Do we have to return to the most basic logic of adulthood? If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you like to take a chance on which shows will be released, then buy it. At ~$7 per disc for well-curated shows -- some hit, some miss -- it's not a big deal either way. Personally, I'm not totally stoked over DaPs 35, 36 and 37, but I'm supporting the vault release program and looking long term for more killer shows from my own sweet spots. But the whining here is the definition of buzz kill.

    Looking forward to GarciaLive 15, Jimi on Maui and a stack of Petty, Prine, Jennings, and Dylan. And the news on DaP 38, whatever it will be.

  • Crow Told Me
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    I remember when the Antifa Babies opened ...

    ... for the Circle Jerks at the Mabuhay. Great show, till the Babies’ singer bit his tongue off, somebody pulled the fire alarm, and all the sprinklers went off and ruined my toilet paper dog collar. But I digress.

    Let me see if I can figure out exactly what the complaint is here.

    After lengthy consideration, some proactive data mining cybermetrics, and a long talk with my cat, I have concluded the problem is that some people feel like Dave should announce ALL of the shows as soon as the “early bird” deal is announced so that could make a more informed decision. That’s not a totally unreasonable thing to ask, but I can think of a couple reasons why maybe the DP folks don’t do it that way.

    Maybe it’s not practical for them to plan that far ahead: auditioning tapes, reviewing sound quality, and everything else that goes into choosing a show for release takes time, and it’s not like they’ve got dozens of people working round the clock on this. Or maybe they just like being able to keep their options open as they listen to buyer feedback: like, say, if they get a lot of people saying they don’t like having so much audience noise in a given release, maybe they would reconsider plans for another one like it? You gotta remember: this is small operation, serving a niche market.

    I mean, they’re not just doing this to be dicks. And it’s not like they’re making a huge fortune off it. I would suspect that the profit from selling roughly 20k CD sets is probably just enough to employ a couple people to keep the series going. You’re enough of a fan to want the whole series sight unseen? You get the best deal. You want only to cherry pick only the shows you want? You pay a little more, but you still get what you want. You’re not interested in any of ‘em? You pay nothing. It all seems fair to me.

  • Colin Gould
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    What's A "Circle Jerk Antifa Baby?"

    UNKLE SAM

    Is it a cousin conceived by an unusual form of artificial insemination?

    What I struggle to understand is how being called an anti-fascist became a term of abuse.

    I like the subscription model and I’m sure it’s good for the company as well since it means that they get a large amount of their money upfront so they know the releases are viable. If they had to wait to see how each disc sold then they would, I’m believe, put out fewer shows.

  • unkle sam
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    what's a "circle jerk antifa baby?"

    wow, those are some harsh comments coming from some here. it's ok, breath, take a step back, breath. On a funny note, did you hear the one about the women in DC last weekend, they were screaming something about antifa and one woman asked another "who is antifa?" the other answered "I don't know, but they sure don't like her." wonka wonka wonka. Some folks just can't turn the page.
    I don't have a problem with the subs, especially the early bird special. Great name, early bird special, the early bird gets the special limited edition one time only never to be seen again only you and 22,000 others will have it disc. Gotta love that. ;)
    There have been a few Dave's I haven't been real fond of, but I still love the Grateful Dead and anything that has Jerry going up and down the frets and Phil thumping and Bobby cheesing and Micky and Billy keeping the beat is just fine with me. Thank you for still releasing these shows, they have kept me sane for a little while longer although lately things seem to be getting a bit weird. I haven't left the house except for groceries and dope for 8 months so I too have gotten weirder. But it's ok, take a step back, breath ...

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
October 2020

Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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Shipped early to arrive on time, arrived on time (Saturday the 30th). Hopefully, they will be able to beat their record of one successful launch in a row. Decent show, superb sound and production, I'm ok with the extended tracks adding a nice selection of songs to compliment the full show release. I saw shows in this era, so it is in my enjoyable period/line up. I do like the earlier stuff and as a subscriber, if they have to toss in a 80's show to balance a searing early performance, that's ok. Hopefully 21 is gonna be a good year as someone once said

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Who are the sunshine daydreamers?
And do you know those people listed on the cool tea pot? You designed that?
The only reason I ask because my main hang, band/house mate and all around side kick back in the day is listed on there! Curious to know if he was there?
Really need to look that mofo up...

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Nice design and cool graphics. Good story too, thanks Jeff.

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Hey Uroborous,

I've still got contact info for some of the Sunshine Daydreamers. PM me if you'd like to try to reconnect with someone.

Below is the copy from the former homepage of the Sunshine Daydreamers in 2015. We banded together to try to find tickets before FTW, and had a blast in the process. Later we hooked up in Chicago between/during shows. Many of us still stay in touch and gather at Dead & Co shows when we can (remember LIVE CONCERTS? Those were the days. May they return soon!):

"Strangers stopping strangers, just to shake their (virtual) hand.  

We’ve been searching for miracles for our needy, sharing spreadsheets, gossiping, singing and dancin’ while counting down the days ’til our Pic-A-Nic at FTW. There’ll be fireworks, calliopes, clowns and celebration. At last count we’re 36 friends from 14 states and provinces

We are Deadheads . . . we are everywhere . . . and WE MISS JERRY! Thanks to DEAD.NET you can also follow our antics on our BLOG. Hope to see you at the Fountain! And don’t forget to keep your BUZZ on!!!"

I meant to share the link to the SSDD mug since mugs came up here today, but somehow posted the teapot instead. Teapot!? Haa! Here's the mug: https://www.zazzle.com/sunshine_daydreamers_chicago_15_mug-168939428841… . The Zazzle thought-police made me strip out some of the GD imagery from the original designs I did, but we made t-shirts with the full-tilt versions.

Onward.

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Thanks guys!
JS, from poking around on that page I’m guessing BOO469 is my buddy!
I’ll PM ya and perhaps you have email info....
He and I were band/house mates wayyyy back when at the House of Blue Lights and roadied, played music and saw many shows together BITD.
Thanks, again!
Your always doing nice stuff!

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Thanks Guys!
I poked around on that page and BOO469 has got to be him...
JS, I sent ya a PM. Hopefully you have a email address...
He was my main sidekick BITD...er, I was probably the sidekick LOL...
We were roadies; (he got me the gig working production at 7/1/92), band mates (in several bands), housemates, and saw too many shows too count over the years...

It’d be cool if we could get him here so he can lampoon me for all y’all’s entertainment lol ; )

EDIT: Dooaahh! Sorry, weird? Posted but didn’t show so I redid and now both? Oooppss

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It's says Fire is from Greek '86. It's actually from Ventura '85. Opened with OMSN.

On another page, it’s interesting, interviewers kind of a trip.
I had to laugh though when JG starts downplaying the drugs, especially knowing what all he was up to during this time; working on the movie etc...
Thanks Vguy and/or who ever posted elsewhere, cool interview.

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My Dap is sitting waiting for USPS in Bethlehem Pa.

Why don't you just charge another four dollars for sub's and let UPS finish the delivery? They go past my house everyday anyway.

Thank you.

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Thanks for posting this link to the, I think, 76 Garcia Interview Vguy.

Garcia was so cool. And his legacy lives on That interviewer talked a little too much. But always interesting to hear Jerry' thoughts on several topics. Including the death of his mother and how he had unfinished business with her that he never got to. Man, I feel that and when they are gone, that is it, they are gone..... Okay, back to more positive thoughts.

Stay well out there.

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Tales of the weird.. The first strange thing is Jerry drinking water from a chalice like glass.. the catholic twist during break got me thinking, and there is a really weird twist. The interviewer was a priest. Didn't know Jerry was an alter boy (as was I for a bit in second grade). Read through the comments, there's a dark side but not from Jerry for a change. Can't speak to what might or might not have happened.. but the accusations are sordid. Probably explains why this interview was buried for so long.

Still, very cool interview once you get past the potentially creepy ex-priest.

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....it is indeed '76.
And I was also an altar boy from age 10-13. Got to ring those bells.
My priests and monsignor were very cool. Raised Catholic.
Some questions Garcia had to answer were deep. But thats what one gets when one agrees to be interviewed.
Cue cards be damned.
I'm a Zappa novice, but Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar was pulled from the ether.
Astounding!!

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“We’re the Don Quixote’s of rock and roll”
Truly beatific!

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What a fucking drag , interviewer had a dark past. Read after watching video.
Jerry was brilliant at least.
“All religions have dark corners” i remember from a PBS special on world religions that was aired two months after 9/11.

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Tossing a little bone. There are a more than a few celebrity posters here...

Carlos is of course Carlos Santana, I think he still lives in NCal, but he rarely invites me over anymore and quit answering my PMs. Something about restraining order...

Billythekid is of course Billy K, currently living in Kuai, Hawaii.

Bolo is believed to be either Edward Snowden or D. B. Cooper, whereabouts unknown.

We all know who David Lemieux and Bob Weir are, no point in calling them out.

Hope that helps......

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I believe Snowden and Cooper are the same person.

Oh, and don't forget me. I had a tv show in the late 50's and still enjoy a comic strip detailing my daily life with Mom, Dad & Good Old Mr Wilson.

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LOL...what was the dogs name?

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It depends which Dennis the Menace you are talking about. The US version has, according to Wikipedia, a dog called Ruff (and a cat called Hot Dog). The UK version from ‘The Beano’ comic has a dog called Gnasher. Amazingly, the two characters were created at the same time separated by the Atlantic.

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Hey Dave! I'm still waiting on 36. I know it's weird out there, but my music shop fights through and honors it's debts

Ex- long time subscriber

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I am innocently wondering if the shipping snafus are attributable to the messed up state of USPS, Dead.net or a some combination of both.

I am truly feeling for those that are still waiting. I hope you eventually come to get the sets which are rightfully yours.

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I really can't believe I have to make this comment. This is the fourth time I have been given the Dave's Picks subscription as a gift, and the first time I have to say something. For some reason, after purchasing the subscription in early November, for some unknown reason it was refunded months later with no indication or explanation given. It wasn't even noticed by us for another month, and by this point, and even if it was noticed immediately, the subscription was already sold out. How is this a good way to do business? After all this, we were given a boilerplate excuse and 15% percent off our next purchase, like that would make up for missing out on four previously unreleased live dead shows. It has pretty much ensured that I will never purchase another single thing from dead.net. It wouldn't be so bad if they had even attempted to explain WHY this had happened in the first place, but they'd rather lose someone who has been loyally purchasing merch from for a decade. We are very disappointed, with no explanation, or email given; we were not even sure what the refund was, until it was finally figured out that this was a refund for our dave's picks subscription. It took active sleuthing to even figure out this was what the refund was for. This is unacceptable, when we purchased this subscription in good faith, a print out was given as a present to someone, and then it was refunded with zero communication.

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Apologies if this is the wrong thread but I note that some subscribers have not received Dave's Picks 36. I did manage to get that one. However my copies of Dave's Picks 33 and Dave's Picks 35 went missing in action and I've not heard anything back from the store despite me sending them the details of the shipping notification / invoices that they were looking for. I appreciate that international shipping was a problem at the height of the pandemic but I am stuck having paid for 4 release but I've only received 2.

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get the attention of someone to help with this ?

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