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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1301
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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

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    Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

    I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!

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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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    >DAVEROCK>

    "It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it."

    HAHAHA

    I'll be on the lookout for that CCR set. John Fogerty strikes me a somewhat difficult man. Brilliant songwriter and producer, though. Never get tired of Cosmo's Factory, in particular. Gotta get reacquainted with the first album. I recall it being more psychedelic.

    Got a trove of stuff to listen to after yesterday's catch up. Thanks!
    Not sure where I'll start, but probably with something that already has ID tags. lol.

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    There was a good cd of CCR's set that came out a couple of years ago. Apart from Hendrix, possibly my favourite set of the whole festival. "Lovelight" was included on a dvd as an extra, on one of the celebratory reissues of the festival. I don't think I'm being controversial when I say that it wasn't there finest hour. It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it.
    The Dark Star, I've just remembered, was included in the 6 cd 40th anniversary release of Woodstock, too. That's okay. But it's not a show I would suggest as a contender for an official release.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/30/2021 - 08:51

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I caught a few but missed most of the summer '85. I did get most of them on tape pretty quickly though. Riverbend, SPAC, Merriweather Hershey (Frost and Greeks?)..

Anyway, in 85 I was pretty hurting on funds and young.. but I caught a few. FF to the early 90's, grad school and my career unfortunately took root, so less shows. Things didn't really slow down until I began travelling less, post 2010. A few summers ago I decided to start going to some of those venues I missed.. saw Further, D&C and Phil in some of those venues.. Blossom, Riverbend, the Capitol, still trying to get to SPAC.

I really enjoyed Blossom, a really sweet outdoor shed and a great place to see shows. I bet those in attendance in the summer of '85 for the most part had a special time in a great venue.

I did pull down Blossom pretty early on when the Archive started housing shows, so I have listened to it a bit in the last ten years. Been a while though so this is a good refresher and a trip down memory lane.

Anyone else window shop GD venues of old? I especially love the quaint theatres they used to play in the 70's. One day I will do a little Europe tour and hit as many of the E72 tour as I can. Since I missed that tour, why not use it as an excuse to travel and take in a little history and culture.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/30/2021 - 10:19

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It’s funny how one ripple from no pebble tossed can suddenly open up such a wealth of memories and other threads...

DV: more like call of the Weird! ; )

BOBT: with the shout out to the hometown girl

GOGO: I feel ya, seeing 85 would of been nice, but 6/30/86 as a first show is pretty -#$&*& cool in my book. There were times I considered that perhaps my best show....I think now that was heavily situational, and you really had to be at that one...besides all the crazy zen barges and riverboats coinciding with the lyrics at EXACTLY the precise moment etc, and from what I recall it was like a DM zone after the show with perhaps more rockets and fire works zipping’ around, crazy energy, or maybe that was just us? LOL...another one that doesn’t fully illuminate itself on tape...awesome first show! and hey, much of my love for 85 comes from a huge convergence of age, tenure in the culture, venues, the scene at the time (perhaps the peak of how big and crazy it could get before it all went too far?) and of course the music.
So yeah, maybe you weren’t ready yet, or the cosmic shift hadn’t occurred? I’ve heard enough of these stories to think there’s something to some of that?
Dave talking about the 4/15/78 Passenger and about balls out almost jumping the tracks etc...that to me is 85 in a generalization. Sure sometimes there were wrecks and floundering, and yes JGs voice could at times sound like he had the worst cold ever, but what gets me is the danger, the excitement, the riding the edge, which as HST said no one really knows where the edge is except those who go over it.
Oh, that and they started bringing back some cool tunes which gave hope that they’d perhaps take back up more of their primitive form. Perhaps regress back to Dark Stars and big weirdness in general. Really liked their sound then too. It was yet another unique niche among all the years combined. It’s a shame it gets so little love.

BLOSSOM: shoulda, woulda, coulda....sigh...then again, that 2 day party in Toga might of been worth missing it?
It’s hard to decide looking back all these years?
A couple of my band/house mates went to Blossom and thought it was great. I only had the first set on tape and until I did the whole tour (4/28-7/13) last summer to celebrate the 35 anniversary, hadn’t heard the whole show. It was perhaps the biggest eye opener of the tour for me. Yeah, I knew good and well about several of the shows, but didn’t know how good Blossom was. My tape was a little too crispy so that mighta been a factor why I didn’t delve as much into it back then?

JIM/VENUES: it is cool to check out the old hallowed halls and venues. Furthur fest tour in 96 took us to several: the Gorge, Irvine, KC, Veneta, Park City, Phoenix etc that I’d not been to, and moving to Colorado brought Red Rocks, the Denver Philmore, Telluride, Rocky Grass and other cool places. Unfortunately still never been to the Greek or the Frost. Always thought Laguna Seca must of been fun?

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Old CD-R I burned more than 10 years ago.
Still plays so far, no disc rot.

OB - I dig what you're laying down. So cool we were both there all those years ago and here we are now..
wait, where are we?

And yeah 6/30/86 was a great first show.
All I can say is Gooney Bird!
It's been a helluva trip ever since, for sure :)

Ah... Maybe missing that Cryptical is what made me obsessively collect all this music.
'85 rules.
This 3/9/85 show is kicking butt too. China Cat > Cumberland.. Hot Damn!

I must give a shout out to 4/4/85, it was the first Brent Dead that I ever heard, and I love that show.
My GD mentors came back from that tour and popped in that tape and blew my mind.
Wait a minute, these guys are still touring?!?!
I gotta know more.

And yeah, I love me some venue research.
NY 1967-1971 is probably my favorite time frame for stories.
That scene was like no other from the sounds of things.

Am I right Strider?

Good times you all.
1985 is making my day!

PS - No Disc rot

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 01/30/2021 - 14:30

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Yaaaahooooooo!!!!!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 01/30/2021 - 15:07

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Yes

Dave, please hear my plea

Also, 80 and 81

There must some releaseable shows in there

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 01/31/2021 - 07:33

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Its audience but their is a good Rob B. and charlie miller source!!! If I remember good Playing sequence and a funky Scarlet Begonias. Enjoy the snow storm everyone... Bob t

Alright, I am going to check it out Bob t. Thanks for the pick.

Interested in what you all think of #37? Still no tracking here.

Stay well.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sun, 01/31/2021 - 09:26

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glad to give 7/21 a spin!

have been digging another not-so-well-known '74 show -
Olympia Halle, Munich - 9/14/74. I really really like the Usbourne matrix - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1974/09/14. nice balance and the audience adds some cool atmosphere in places. No board for first 4-1/2 songs but largely complete after that. Sweet well played show. Added bonus - a complete Seastones!! ; )
If folks aren't familiar with this show highly recommend.

folks in the snow zone have fun and stay safe. beautiful sunny day here on the mesas and in the hills of Ootah. no Dave's 37 or notice. its always a fresh shipping adventure with each release. Glad its already showing up on a few doorsteps.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 04:37

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This mini tour from Winter 78 has the amazing Uni-Dome Show.... There is a good Charlie Miller board on Internet Archive. This tour to me has a complete different feeling than April and May 78. No set yet in Rhode Island. Bob t

Uptown must be in the air as we begin some February magic :)

I was just talking about 1981 Uptown shows. (Who am I kidding, it was typing, not talking;)
Threw on the jam out of He's Gone from 2/26
Now I kinda want to listen to all of those.

But first!
I'm hip to some Uptown '78
BobT is back and on a roll.
'74 was fun yesterday.

EDIT - And look at those openers.. look familiar to anything coming in the mail?

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I'm a grandpa! Traveling this week to see our beautiful new granddaughter. And a grandson is due in April. Feeling particularly blessed today.

Speaking of happy, happy, joy, joy, I always liked seeing Jerry enjoying himself onstage. So, here's a link to one such occasion that many of you have probably seen before. An enjoyable hour, but if you just want to see the Jerry parts, he's in the intro, makes an appearance with Carlos Santana around the 13:25 mark, and with Ruben Blades around 48:24. The DVD had a bonus feature with Jerry and Carlos rehearsing - great stuff if you can find that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wh8E5SDG3I

And tomorrow is Groundhogs Day - life keeps getting better!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 15:27

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Congrats old man...will this be your first?
I wish I had grandkids....Boompa Pedro....”hey kid, pull my finger” hee-hee!
Yeah I wish I had grandkids but without having to have kids first ; )

Was decent, nice jam sequence, sound was a bit funny/distorted at times, but glad I heard it!
Doing 6/22/73 as extra credit...just cause I’m behind on this box and got sucked in by Kiethfans Shroder shreds Playing carrot....

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 19:09

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To you and your family!! Good news also makes my day!!! Bob t

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 07:53

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PROUDFOOT - I'm sorry to hear that's happening to you man. It's rough out there. Hang in there and just know we're here for you man. Everybody has to make tough choices in life, but some are harder than others. Choose well.

BTK mentioned some epic shows happening on this day in GD History (I know we don't do that here, just saying)
And yes Billy you are correct.
Listening to 2/2/69 as I type, fun hearing a young Jerry berate the crowd for being kinda lame. And then launching into a fairly blistering set of epic '69 Dead tunes. Ahh... those were the days.

As we've discussed a bit, the 68 PNW tour is a favorite.

It must've been in 1998, the Crystal Ballroom hosted a 30 year anniversary party and spun the tapes in the Ballroom real loud, and let peeps come and party.
It was pretty awesome.
The Crystal is an amazing venue and all refurbished and immaculate with a sprung dance floor that is so fun to move and groove upon.
I'm pretty sure Gans was there spinning the tapes.
At that time I hadn't heard them in quality like that if at all.
So it was mind blowing.
I was such a junior head at that time, in regards to knowledge and GD history. And my focus was entirely upon getting high and listening to music, so I did not take the opportunity to learn anything or meet anyone who knew stuff. But me and my friends sure had fun that night.
Shit, I don't even think I was using a computer yet.
Shortly after that I believe I got my first.
Darn you David Gans for being so much smarter than me!
And thank you for teaching me so much stuff about this band, you sir have been a guiding light to many good times.

And lets not forget that gem that DL released with 2/2/70, I need to refresh my memory on those tapes, but wasn't that just a partial SBD floating around before it's official release?
I love it when that happens.

Fun Memories.
Memories.
That was fun.

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...went with this today as I, still trying to get acquainted with this monster. Wow, awesome Dark Star (a, aren’t they all ; )
Think Phil was slipping in some King Solomon’s licks in there, and then this mofo 73 Eyes which seems like a 74! Holy cow, now slipping into a almost up beat China Doll...
Might try for extra credit with that 8/31/80 that folks be praising on another page...not sure I’ll have time as I think I need to go to the PO for 37 since I HAVE To go to THE “store” , then decontaminate after....shits still raging here due to bad combination of tourists and locals being too cavalier.....haven’t been anywhere in weeks, but when the going gets weird...

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 13:47

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lol...

perfect phrase for breaking the GD fast

LET IT GROW

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 16:05

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We've all been there, don't be hard on yourself.

Oroborous, way to go man.. get comfy in the PNW Box. I love it.. it's one of those pieces of music where I feel it's ok not to listen to each and every song. These are long shows and repeat listens of certain sections is not always required..

Been away a lot these last few days. ..so my listening was often determined by what was on my device at the time. Having a blast in the Mid Atlantic. Can't wait until fun can be had with people again god forbid crowds and amplifiers.. but making the best of here and now.

Be good all.. stay safe, stay warm.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 18:51

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Hey Oroborous, the PNW Box continues to get better at least to my ears after each listen. Let me know your thoughts after you listen to 6/26/73. What a show!

That Other One/Me and Bobby McGee to the Other One is wild!

Enjoyed the 78 show Bob t and the audience recording of the Hollywood Bowl, 74.
Stay well folks.
Still no tracking for this kid. Label created.....This is starting to remind of Dave's 36.☹️

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 06:26

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OB - I need to dust off that set again.
Feels like I get a release listen to it once and grok on how excellent it is..
And then dive into collecting a bunch of bootlegs and forget about the release.
Might be OCD.

If you all haven't checked out 2/2/70 in awhile, I highly recommend dusting that off.
Smoker!
Dark Star > St. Stephen > Mason's - That's just sick!
Good times.

I'm hoping my POD will be DaP V37 based on the tracking text I just got, says between 11:30-3:30.
I guess we'll see.

Starting off the day with some Ace Demos, I don't think I've listened to this all the way through.
I wonder what became of "Unknown Song"
I can't place it.
A little E Minor 7 9 Modal spin 4th uh uptempo bullshit

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 11:28

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...tip toeing through the tulips of the mighty PNW.
Didn't get to the extra credit show. Faulty time, and we all know time! and I had to listen to 6/24s disc three again, man that’s some good sheet...lol what the hey, gonna hit a few songs from 24th again today including the DS....😎

Received 37 last night, but Lovey’s working at home in my office today and I always try to give each new release (at least the first virginal listen) the full proper treatment listening via the big boy chair on the big system so that’ll have to wait until manana!
So since I can tell ole DV is itching for me to hit 6/26/73 (like I needed any prodding ; ) I guess will start with that. (After that DS again lol)

Actually starting to rain here, with supposedly snow later. As much as I’ve enjoyed the easy winter, we need it bad!.
It’s been sorta cold but one of the driest winters I can remember for the 22 years we’ve been up here. Crazy the East coast etc is getting pounded and we’ve not had shite this winter. That fire was close enough to get a person thinking last year so really hoping we have a wet spring.
Point being good day to work in the basement on the Theatre. Since I can now play stuff off the music server on upper level down on the basement system etc. it’ll be a perfect day to be in the pit, and a perfect day for a long 73 show!
Trying to get my Height layer in and LFE subs going. I have some B&W speakers laying around and an extra 5 channel Mac amp I was originally going to use for the master, so might just as well travel the elegant way eh!
Main reason I’m doing this is not so much for atmos (shitty format) or movies, but for music and concert videos etc. Auro 3D upconversion for stereo or fake surround sources can be magnificent!
It’s not some crazy surround deal with like one drum coming from each speaker, but a subtle but powerful use of the psychoacoustic space that when done right can make you feel more like your experiencing a live event. I’ve only used the 2D version so far on my 6.1 set up, so I’m really stoked to play dead videos or hell anything using the 3D set up.
Ssssssllllaaaappppp.......sorry, started geeking out there hurumph...
Yeah Jim I have been cheating a bit on some of these. Like only did the last 2 discs yesterday and cut some tunes off of the first one. I know you full show purists are looking at me funny, but I have to be careful I don’t get too burnt.....
Like Eecktar’s rule of relativity states “a little bit of something is better than all of nothing”
Onward!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 20:51

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Great Post Ouro.. Love the Tiny Tim reference. We must be close to the same age, because I remember when this guy was making the rounds on TV and pop culture.

So.. as a weird mind works and knowing there was a kinship between Wavy Gravy and Tiny Tim.. plus it's midnight.. I googled Tiny Tim on Acid (seemed logical to me). I somehow thought, surely Tiny dosed.. well, I was wrong but the search brought up the quite recent article by our beloved Blair Jackson. A fairly well researched piece (no surprise here), quite informative. I knew Tiny Tim was well versed in old music, but leave it to Blair to fill the gaps and keep it all interesting. I would not be surprised if there was a closer tie to the GD than Wavy Gravy, but the hour is getting late... save some fun for tomorrow.

Thanks Oroborous for leading me on this interesting tangent. ..at least interesting to me.

https://www.ukulelemag.com/stories/the-strange-and-improbable-rise-of-t…

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 06:32

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What's on tap for today.

Per Jim's suggestion yesterday I hit up Dave's #1. What a show. It never gets old to me.

Maybe we should take a look at the January 2017 Dave's release, #21? A little Boston Garden 73.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 09:05

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Did not know any of that about TT...I thought he was “acting”, trying to be that odd. Fug yeah, when the going gets weird lol. Glad I could help lol. Great article, miss his Dead stuff...
I guess for me a good day is when I throw something out there, especially if it’s weird, and it lands somewhere, and perhaps gets a little flow going. It fascinates me how/what little cues can trigger, especially with an older drug addled mind, all kinds of things that haven’t been thought of in a very long time etc.
Like Tiny Tim on TV as a lad>> Laugh In>> different characters etc>>other childhood sixties TV memories>> and on and on!
Funny I’m rehashing the weirdness from 6/26/73 TOO while watching TT videos lol. Yeah, hard to believe he never tripped. Fortunately/Unfortunately? ...gotta wonder what would of happened had he been around Owsley and the boys!
Ok, it’s time for new Dave’s, then maybe I’ll hit some of that 4/2/73. Ole DV knows just how to scratch under my collar, WOOF!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 17:47

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Hard to believe it has been four years since this gem came out. It never fails. Top three, in my book China-Rider, that transition is unreal. Stella Blue, man, Jerry reall is on fire. His guitar is so crisp in this recording.
Your house must rock with that sound system you have Oroborous!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 17:59

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Several weeks ago we were discussing the reissue of Monterey Pop on BluRay and the addition of GD Viola in the bonus material.
Also added was Tiny Tim hanging out in the Green Room for Monterey Pop (a tent actually), sitting at a table with a few people, and playing old songs.

Pretty bizarre

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Submitted by carlo13 on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 21:53

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This show is what most other shows try to measure up too. So to speak. Tiny Tim at Monterey was bizarre. He acts so tutti frutti.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 07:00

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It’s was either that or children!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 08:04

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Oroborous, Ha! Way cheaper your way.

Carlo, I agree. And #21 was recorded by Rex Jackson and I believe the first Dave's Picks with the tapes provided by ABCD LLC.

Okay, who has a pick for today?

Alright Vguy, looks interesting and there is a Wang Dang Doodle. On it. Thanks.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 08:53

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Cool, another weird little nugget you wouldn’t normally think of.
Gonna hit the 4/18/78 stuff again first...too stoned, too early, dug 37 in fine style but fell asleep during Pittsburg lol.
Then this and I still want to catch 4/2/73....yeeshk, better get busy!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 09:20

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Whoooah Nelly! Disc 3 of Dave's 21 (4/2/73) is one hell of a corker! Just off the top of my head (which is a lot less cluttered with hair these days,) I would have to say that this must be among the best single discs released in the whole series. Just gem after gem! I love when the madness of a jam winds down into "Bobby McGee" and the "Prelude>Eyes>China Doll" is exceptional. Wonderful stuff all around! Combine that with the greatness of discs one and two, and you have a TOP SHELF Dave's Pick!

Ok - 11/3/91? I think I will hook my new laptop up to my big boy stereo later today for some happy hour jams.

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 09:41

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Big River also captured my attention for the first time on this release.

Funny how things seep out of these releases even if you have listened to them dozens of times. But seriously, Big River was a wild and crazy jam on this night a couple months shy of 48 years ago. A practically flawless version.

Great pick VGuy

Check out 2-5-70 Dancing In The Street.
Listened to it while driving to work this morning, totally hit the spot.
I think it’s filler on 2-4-70 Family Dog which I was listening to yesterday in the car.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 21:03

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2/5/78 Uni-Dome Scarlet>Fire...... one of those combos, where I like every version!! This one is one of my favorites!! Another random listen today is 9/11/74.... Between the Playing in the Band,,, Phil and Ned (12 minutes or so into the 41 minutes, is basically the whole band, and then Ned stays on for the entire Eyes of the World.... So 23 minutes for the Playing in the Band to end Set I, the 41 minute Phil and Ned (25 minutes or so of just pure 74 bliss) followed by 31 minutes of Eyes with Ned sitting in.... 90 minutes and basically vocals for only 2 songs..... Really wish this whole show would have been released..... Have a good weekend... Bob t

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Submitted by deadshow72 on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 21:10

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Great to hear the boys' impromptu occasional banter several times throughout the show. To those who tend to poo poo First Sets, give this one a listen and you'll surely see the light! Dark Star>Wharf Rat>DarkStar>Me & My Uncle to close out, can it be? - YES, the FIRST SET.

Not quite through the Second Set just now, Question: was this Playin' In The Band the first time played?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 21:47

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Nice show Vguy. Sound quality on this one is A+. Fun to hear the guys with Fogarty. Born on the Bayou! Neal Young with Forever Young, nice surprise and Touch of Gray to end the show. Nice!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 06:13

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Pick-let of the day . . . .how about the partial second set from 2-19-73 - monster sequence and great sound. Like starting your day with some good, strong, fresh roasted coffee and a slice of homemade strawberry-rhubarb pie. Would love for the rest of this show to surface.

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1973/02/19 (Miller board)

Been awhile since I listened to 4/2/1973, need to cue that up for a deep listen.

Senator Oro - I think you mentioned Gimme Some Truth a few days ago. By chance last week was streaming Undercurrents Radio and they had a triple shot - Bless You, #9 Dream, Every Man Has A Woman That Loves Him. It all sounded amazing to me (just now the trumpet on Bless You!!) So I've been streaming parts of that compilation last little while - don't own any of Lennon's solo work. Really dig it.

edit - 11/3/91 somehow I've never listened to this. on it! and . . .

Onward!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 08:46

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Was the first live performance. I was there that night a few rows (4th or 5th) from the stage. Attended the following three nights also. Fifty years ago I refrained from smoking ganga for the three weeks leading up to that night. Was also jogging regularly and starting to clean up my diet. Smoked hash before the show. Almost got jumped/mugged hanging out at the side of the theater. Port Chester was also the home of Homelite Chainsaws. 1971, was also my first time to Oregon. Also the same year the film adaptation of the Ken Kesey great American novel “Sometimes A Great Notion” was released, with powerful performances by Henry Fonda as Henry Stamper and Paul Newman as Hank Stamper. One of my all time favorite books that I read my first time living in Oregon summer of 1972. I also loved the movie. “Never Give A Inch” (correct spelling from book and movie)

Hope you don't mind a question re personal history. Curious as to how you made the jump from NY to Oregon back in the day. Older brother? Solo on instinct? Seems like you were into the Dharma Bums trajectory a little?

Speaking of Gallup, a close friend of my parents was life-long in the railroad and when newly married was stationed there (ran the local operation?) for a few years back in late 50s early 60s i think. He spoke of it fondly, but I never really tried to get a deep history. He passed on a couple months ago - missed opportunity.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 11:27

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11/3/91: fun little show. Just exactly the kind of off the beaten path kinda nugget that I might never find if not for this forum, thanks Vguy!
4/2/73: been sort sneaking around this one last couple days. Unfortunately been distracted for most but had a ear to ear grin session after finally settling down, sitting down and melding with disc 3 as I was messing with the Theatre system, so listening with Auro 2D on a 6.1 channel system while tweaking my LFE sub. I used my old Bass cabinet with 2 15” JBL E140s in custom Hard Truckers style cabinet, powered by old Crest FA901 amp from my playing days. I’m also using my old Furman crossover as the bass management in my MX 123 pre-pro is a little disappointing for the price point, but it does sound real nice!
So I’ve had mixed results with movies and not been able to get things where I want, so figured I’d tweak with some good sounding Dead and see what happens lol.
Well started getting things real nice pushing those amps and by the time Casey Jones came round I’m grinning like a maniac and it’s loud but clean and still headroom and if- I- Could- just- squeeze- a, little- more- right- now as they kick into the finale crescendo, holy shit that’s.......what?....?....rut ro...oops, the misses (all ready in a fine mood lol) is now trying to get my attention from the top of the stairs and didn’t really hear/comprehend much except;
A) mommas pissed (which is never good), and
B) something about “things are literally bouncing up here!) LOL

Too funny, and to think my system I had after I moved back in my folks basement BITD was even louder!
Not sure how they put up with all that? Probably figured “hey, their doing what the love and at least their not out doing drugs!” LOL!!! yeah, we’re doing downstairs instead!
Shit need to do that again...when she’s at work would probably be a good thing ; )
For scientific purposes if nothing else; still don’t know what the threshold is for noticeable distortion, or the edge if you will....need to check some db levels too!

BC check PM

STRIDER; Great Notion, one of my all time favs, think I like that more than Cuckoos Nest...haven’t read that in decades, probably due cept it is a bit of a commitment...not sure I’ve heard Never Give An Inch title? From quick look it looks like same movie? Haven’t seen that in forever either, that I have time for! Wonder if I can find it?

Giving 4/2/73 disc three another run through, then? Maybe second pass on 4/15/78? Maybe I’ll give #36 a swirl as I haven’t had a chance to play this one as much as I normally would a new Dave’s...still itching for more 90s research too.
Recently poked around with 3/20/92 from Boxilla which I was fortunate to be at. I remember really liking this one live, and did again all these years later. So thinking next day or so hitting the next night since I’ve never heard that one either...thinking I might go in order and try and hit all my post 91 shows and the few official releases through till the end. Not all at once, but work whatever’s up next in line into the daily show flow.
Ok, sorry for the coffee rambles...
Onward!