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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1281
    DeadVikes
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    Hey Bluecrow, not sure if we ever listened to this show from the Uptown Theater in Chicago, 11/18/78?
    I have it going now, sounding good so far. I still have 78 on my brain.

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    Oh, my. My 1973 homework is…

    Oh, my. My 1973 homework is cut out for me. A(nother) very weak period for me.

    What can I listen to immediately?*

    I can cue up 2/28, 3/24 (Oh yeah, that's a good one! Looks like I snagged a Betty reel before the dark times)... Heart marks from He's Gone all the way through Sing Me Back Home. Another in the first set for Playin', and 5 stars for the Loser that precedes it. Nothing else is marked, but a first set Stella Blue? Sure!

    Getting into summer/fall, 7/28, 7/31, 8/1, 9/8, 9/17, or 12/4 and I actually have Dicks Picks Vol. 1, for a change. lol :-)
    Some of those I really haven't listened to much. Roosevelt Stadium seems to have had some mojo, but I think I only listened to Jerry's birthday show for the first time last year, and then probably only once.

    *Btw, my Internet was down for 24hrs yesterday. First there was electrical work being done on the building, so no power from 9 to 5! Then, they managed to screw up the phone lines and couldn't get it fixed until well after 9am this morning. So glad I don't depend on Spotify! lol... or streaming from the Archive ;-)

    I had a taste of that mind bending Playin > Wharf Rat > Playin' from 6/8/74 last Sunday, which must be somewhere in the ballpark of the 73 scene we're about to get into. I can't even remember when that had been Pick of the Day.

    Sorry, my listening notes are now way out of sequence as I'm trying to keep pace.

    In the meantime I have been thoroughly obsessed with the 2/22/69 Dreambowl. That was a fantastic pic.
    It's almost been on repeat. Someone needs to make a meme with the (apparently) famous guy on TV getting more and more blown away in each picture. Cool. early '69 show... An acoustic set! ...Mountains of the Moon, too... Mountains of the Moon sequeing into an interplanetary Darks Star... back to back with The Other One!!!!! Mind blown.

    Whole show is excellent. Many many thanks for the "liberating" experience, too.

    Also, RE QC at Deadville... I discovered last year that nugs net has 16b441 downloads of a ton of official albums, some not even available for download here. Shipping kills me, so even though I love physical media, I go for data. Anyway, even some of the downloads have had some dodgy editing or sonic anomalies. I gave nugs a FYI, but they said that's how the data comes and they aren't cleared to mess with it.

    I had the 11/30/80 Fox Theater 2nd set in my music player while I was out yesterday. Lovely, lovely Ship of Fools. Brilliant Playin' into drums into, not quite space, it almost sounds pre-composed, but I kept hearing these Uncle John's Band hints, then it ended up being The Wheel and for a while I thought I was losing my mind, but then they finally get to UJB to close the show. Although I was listening while mainly focussed on work, there were a few points were I wondered if someone ought to make a loud noise because it seemed as if the band was about to doze off. Super mellow mood, which has its merits. Not knockin' a laid back show.

    The real revalation, though, was the 2/19/71 recommendation, which I finally listened through last night.

    2/18 will always be like a favorite sweater or comfort food. However, I can see why you might say the19th is stronger. The 18th is definitely a bit tentative by comparison, what with all of the new songs and Mickey leaving the band, it would be. Although the first part of the 19th didn't really jump out at me, possibly, psychologically, I could have been a bit standoff-ish knowing this show was challenging one of the most nostalgic tapes from my meagre old collection. However, right away it struck me how different the feeling of the new tunes were even though they had only debuted the night before.

    By the time they hit China/Rider on the 19th, though, they seem full of confidence and it sounds like they have found their feet with the new/old lineup. This tune is grooving hard.

    The main thing that struck me about this show was how much it is a Pigpen showcase. Pig is always on it, but the band is rockin' hard behind him on every number from the gritty It Hurts Me Too, to Good Lovin', and beyond. This may be the heaviest Easy Wind I've ever heard. It may be the somewhat gnarly sound quality of the Vadnais transferred audience reel that really adds a welcome taste of foreboding evil to all of Pigs tunes. Probably it's the comparatively sparse arrangements that allow the listener to take a quick breath and really find themselves inside the song. I don't know. Caveat: I did tweak the EQ a bit, but the jury is still out about whether my adjustments improved the sound or not. lol.

    Anyway, just wanted to get out that note about how f'n heavy the Pig tunes are on 2/19. Really felt it.

    Thanks again, everyone!

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    it had been a long time since I'd spun 2/22/69 from 30 trips. everything you'd expect from a show from that time. really enjoyed it and will revisit fairly soon as is my want with shows that tickle my fancy. thanks Doc! on a side note, the one technical difficulty with that listen is that there is something about those discs that my external disc drive (LG M-Disc) really didn't care for. at one point it flat out quit reading Disc 1, something I've never had happen, and while it didn't quit during Disc 2, at several points towards the end it made noises that I've never heard from it before that seemed like the electronic equivalent of an old man wheezing up a hill who was barely going to make it (or maybe not!) this isn't disc rot, its something in how the discs were manufactured i'm guessing. from time to time I've had various weird issues with playability of discs from the GD folks that I've never experienced with any other CDs I've bought. it's very odd. And on the QC issue, I recently pulled out a disc from the Giants box to play it for the first time and there was a big splotch of an opaque light gray liquid on the playing surface, sorta looked like white out except for the gray color. i have never seen anything like it CD-wise and i haven't the faintest idea what the hell it could be or how it could have gotten there. I have a CS request in with Dr. Rhino -we'll see what happens.

    DV - 4/24/78 (DaP 7) was a show that had never really resonated with me - not when it was first issued, and not on subsequent revisits. And I've really gotten into the other released shows from that tour, Nashville and William and Mary. Well, finally got my head properly calibrated and my ears on straight and had an excellent listen. And then I spun it again. Full speed ahead Spring '78 Jerry and the Wolf with that excellent Betty sound. Thank you for suggesting that one.

    Now on maybe my third run through past few days of 2/23/74 (DaP 42). It sounds freaking fantastic! All of it! Blowing my mind! Nothing left to do but smile smile smile!! (Yeah I'm really digging it.) Still haven't cued up the next night, cause I keep getting distracted by all the other good stuff. Maybe tomorrow.

    Gonna have to visit those shows from late February, that one from Austin and Doc's most recent POTD from the Family Dog.

    Take care folks. And great to hear from you Rocktihng!. Rock on!!

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    I’ve enjoyed them all so far DV, but maybe it’s me, some seem to sorta plod for a awhile before they pick up steam in the second set. Recordings were inconsistent too…but?…maybe it was me, as Jim just said so we’ll, sometimes set and setting can have as much influence as the music itself! I actually got to sit a relax and listen to most, a couple I had on while doing household stuff, but I don’t think thats it?
    I’ve always been a huge fan of fall/winter 73, one of my personal top tours, and I purposefully haven’t dug into summer 73 too much as you’d think we’d get some of those sooner than later, but until I got the spring 73 Dave’s, I knew nothing about that tour. 21 With 21, I was a tad nonplused at first, probably just hung up on no Dark Star or other head noise nonsense, but it’s grown on me a lot since. That whole jam sequence is superb, and I’ll take a HCSS anytime!
    16 is one of my favorite Dave’s, so much so I purchased a copy off the black market! 32s good, actually need to listen to that as I’m not as familiar as I should be. I haven’t gotten to Crotchfester or Bu faf a lo yet…
    Every show has a nice big jam sequence, many killer 73 Eyes, a couple ridiculous PITB, some good HCSS, and the Dark Stars and accompanying jams etc, so worth it even just to check those out. Sorry to be so vague but it’s all kinda a blur. As I say, all very similar: relaxed with mostly good playing, until the big jam goes through the roof, rinse and repeat…lol.
    So far, I think the February shows are a bit more to my liking?

    Spring 78: of the dozen and a half or so on this tour, I think I’ve hit 10 so far. Some of the Beatty’s are spectacular and this tour took me by surprise. Getting the big blown away surprise of 4/15 (DaP 37) opened up that flood gate as the only official release I have is 37. I had no clue about this tour before, so yeah, big surprise!
    Hoping Realgone spits out Dicks 18 and that I can get disc copies of the other 2 Dave’s as long/short I don’t do files…actually might try to get 15 off the black market as sometimes those aren’t too outrageously expensive. Didn’t get subs until 21, but since I have a few others, thinking someday I’ll try to get real copies of the few missing so I’ll have 13 onward, with hopefully copies of the rest. I have at least copies of all but 5.
    I still think, partly due to the fine Beatty’s that there’s a potential for a spring 78 box, but maybe not enough interest for that?
    Awright, gotta head to the mine, staycation is over for now : (

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    Hello, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Family Dog At The Great Highway, February 28, 1970

    As a matter of self-preservation, a man needs good friends or ardent enemies, for the former instruct him and the latter take him to task……

    In November, we were teased with the Little Sadie and Black Peter, so we know that an excellent recording is in the vault. As far as early 1970 goes, the “big guns” of the Fillmores get most of the love, respect, and recognition, but this Family Dog run has some doggone good music!

    Call it a Lovelight sandwich, a grateful buffet with something for almost everybody. Electric/acoustic, grease, jams, old and new, all laid out as if on a platter. Dig in and enjoy!!!

    Those who have virtue always in their mouths, and neglect it in practice, are like a harp, which emits a sound pleasing to others, while itself is insensible of the music…..

    Rock on!

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    Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad…..

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    Nashville v Normal

    mmmm..... I might have to compare and contrast. It went down in my ever changing mind that Normal was, well it has that Scarlet Fire & Terrapin into drumz.. but Nashville had a crisper sound and better separation between the instruments, plus a really good Peggy-O and Estimated Eyes. Both shows have a good Lovin', but full disclosure the Bobby GL's never did it for me, too formulaic and his rants did not come across as genuine as Pigs. So a little hotter v better sound. But don't consider this an analysis, my listens tend to be more influenced by focus and frankly my mood and receptiveness.

    I did both all 73 shows consecutively years ago and '78 through May.. but I am always doing stuff so I don't have the rabbit ears of OB and Rock Thing; their attention to detail is most appreciated and enjoyable to take in. Plus.. I'd gladly pay the price of an IMax theatre experience to listen to a show in casa Oroborous just to take in his personal, home edition Wall of Sound. I forked out big bucks 20 years ago for my system but it pales in comparison.

    As for March '73, I walked away big on Philly and Baltimore but Boston Garden did not register and in hindsight it's hot, hot, hot. When I weigh on a show, it's an opinion at a point of time that can be bribed by party favors and mood for the day. A mortal flaw.. first world problems.

    So I am to revisit 4/78. I think I need to work a little less and live a little more. I pulled down the new 2/17/73, that's on my list. I'd like to take in some Fall and Winter '73. A compare and contrast of the last two shows of the year perhaps.. Did Dick pick the right show for DiP1? Inquiring ears want to know.

    I'd like to contribute more.. but it's been a challenging year full of distractions. Summer is coming, so there's that.

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    You don't have #7 OB? We need to change that, I think you would really like this show.

    I will definitely go back and listen to #37 again. I know I had it up within the last couple of months.

    I did listen to #15 from Nashville over the weekend and I don't think Bob was happy with the first set, "That's it, we quit" Good show and the sound quality is as good as #7. Nice Estimated Eyes and Wharf Rat.

    Do you have any recommendations from your recent tour of March 73?

    I mean, this is a hot period. What a tour this is. More from this tour would be welcomed.

    Slow day on the site.

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    Continuing on with 73:
    3/16/73
    3/19/73
    3/21/73
    3/22/73
    2/22/69
    Plus miscellaneous spins of DaP 45
    Now playing 3/27/83, followed by 2/23/70.
    Don’t have Dave’s 7, one of 5 I don’t have copies of…
    Hmmm, that’s a bold statement DV as DaP 37 blew me away.
    Perhaps because I was not expecting it to be and sound as good as it was?
    Every show I’ve heard so far from this tour is good, highly recommend 4/11 and 4/16 too!

    Agree, like DaP 13 better than DaP 42.

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    Haven't listened to this show in a couple of years and wow, I think I like it even more now. A+ on sound quality and both sets deliver high energy Dead. Love the NFA, Black Peter, Around and Around and close it out with Werewolves of London. I went back and read the liner notes again and low and behold, they were written by Blair Jackson. Since I have 78 on my brain, I think I will check out Dave's 15 from 4/22 in Nashville. Of the three released from this time period 4/24 seems to be the top dog in my book. The William and Mary show is good, not great. On to Nashville.

    Hope you all have a great weekend.

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    You cats are already on to 1973. I'm still savoring the gentle respite in the oasis of Austin.

    Death don't have no mercy, but there's always time for lunch.
    Thanks for reminding me of LL. I need to see if I can get reinstated over there.

    Grateful Dead Live at The Auditorium, Austin, Tejas on 1970-02-23
    Harpur College was another of my heavy, heavy rotation tapes back in the day, along with the 2/18/71 Capitol Theater show I've already mentioned numerous times. Both were massive inspirations. For what seems in hindsight like a fairly significant period of time, if it wasn't one of those, it was Reckoning.

    I Know You Rider: Lovin' the energy and grit of this Rider. It's almost angst.

    High Time: This is a song! It's a pretty weird song, too, and after attempting it several times, myself, I must say it isn't surprising it wasn't played often. Damn, it's hard to sing. I submitted a completely deconstructed version of this for the February Dead Covers Project a few years back. I made a point of not revisiting to the original before recording, just going off memory and some notes left in an old binder of songs. I'm sure the ever-growing defenders of canon were thinking, "You ain't doin' it right if you ain't readin' it off a teleprompter." It was an "interpretation". Lol.

    Dire Wolf: What a lyric. An electric version, no less. Pretty mellow electric set, almost acoustic.

    Yellow Dog Joke… ah… well way to go for completely screwing up the joke, Bobby… actually, I'm not sure I've ever heard him make it all the way to the punch line. We should all heed Jerry's advice and "Don't encourage him." Everything was so light and positive in these days. Phil could be a bit surly, as we've already heard in this tape.

    Monkey and the Engineer: This was a standard in my old folk-rock duo. My partner played it and I just followed along. I'd have to start from scratch to figure out how to play it again. Such good stories in these tunes.

    Little Sadie: Nice. This wasn't on the Harpur College tape or Reckoning. Another dark story. I don't see how they could possibly be breaking strings playing such gentle music.

    Me and My Uncle: I don't recall hearing an acoustic version. It's a great song and works in any format. At this point everyone hadn't already heard it a million times. Imagine that!

    Black Peter: One of my favourite tunes ever. Doesn't get much darker than a song from the point of view of a death bed. Started doing this one myself occasionally a few years ago, but I always need a cheat sheet for the bridge. Nothing repeats. There are some interesting mnemonic connections between the chords and the words that help. Just have to sit down and do my homework. Ahh… yeah, Pig sittin' in nicely on the organ. This song needs a really delicate hand, but the organ adds a nice little gospel flavour. If only Pig coulda added just a touch more flair to his playing to fill in some lines before Jerry takes his solo. Pig's got the tone.

    Seasons of the Heart: Never heard this before. Great pick! Thanks.

    Uncle Johns: Have heard this one a few times. 😉

    Not Fade Away: I'm gonna call the union! The Galactic Rock'n'Roll Union! That needs to be a band name, or a song, or something! Crazy to think this tune was in their set their entire career. Some good ol' primal energy here. Jerry's "wild" tone. He must've had the amplifier turned WAY up, cause it sounds like he's not in the mix at all. His guitar is just being picked up by a vocal mic, or something. Basically, no drums, either. I can't keep track of which guitars he was playing in the early years. He seemed to play whatever was available after giving up the Starfire. Sounds kind of like a Stratocaster, The Graham Nash Strat, perhaps? Alligator did not come on the scene until later, if I recall correctly. This tone has even more of a stereotypical Stratocaster sound than Alligator, which retained very little Fender electronics by the time it gets heard on Europe '72. Anyone? Oh, cool call and response with Pig. TC has already left at this point? I need to get my timelines straight. Bobby diggin' in with some soulfully aggressive singing, rather than simply aggressive.

    Mason's Children: I can't recall ever hearing this, either. The name comes up often, but it's not on anything I've listened to regularly. Again, thanks for this pick! As you say, not exactly high-energy stuff, but some very rare pieces here. Always appreciate the chance to learn something new about this fascinating family.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 02/11/2021 - 09:04

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I don't own this one.
At first I thought Bolo was talking about Steppin Out by Joe Jackson.

I am with you GOGD, I am also interested in hearing about the different mix from the box set.

Almost finished with 2/9/73. What a show. Always love to hear first versions of songs, Eyes of the World, fantastic. Love the HCS, Truckin.
Would be a fantastic show to release.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 02/11/2021 - 12:08

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Well I'm on Hurts Me Too on Disc 1 and this is def a fine sounding CD!

I haven't gone back and forth and compared the two mixes in real time.
But since I was curious I poked around.. cause, you just gotta poke around.

And here's some info from Deadessays.blogspot.com -
Let’s not forget that big chunks of this tour previously appeared on the archival releases Hundred Year Hall (released in 1995), Steppin’ Out (a compilation of songs recorded on this tour in England, released in 2002), and Rockin’ the Rhein (released in 2004). Also, the box set The Golden Road (released in 2001) and the later individual re-issue of Europe ’72 contained bonus tracks from the tour. Astute listeners will notice that the mixes on these earlier releases is much more refined in terms of dynamics, equalization, reverb, and other sonic niceties than it is on the 2011 box. Keith Godchaux in particular receives more attention to detail on the older mixes. On the 2011 mixes, there is even a distortion issue with the vocals on every show up to the first Paris show (5/3/72) that then pretty much clears up for the rest of the box. Obviously the mixing budget for Europe ’72: The Complete Recordings did not allow for the “extravagance” of the earlier, higher-fidelity mixes.

So we've got some Astute Listeners here!

Any other details folks got about the mixes and the difference in the source material used I'd love to hear about.

But based on what I'm reading the mixes for the previous releases were more enhanced and higher-fidelity due to the production time and budget that the Dead had to work with, or probably should say Jeffrey had to work with.

While I'd heard this mentioned, I've never fully explored it. So therefore.. I did not know that.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Thu, 02/11/2021 - 12:13

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Won't have my copy at hand for a couple days. Thinking back a bit earlier even and just how fantastic Hundred Year Hall was. Its been a long long while since I've listened to that, but if memory serves one of the gifts was how inspired Keith's playing was as part of the whole. While the Steamer Trunk was a holy grail release, I remember thinking what the heck where is Keith a lot of the time, and it turned out that Norman had intentionally mixed him down, at times he seemed barely audible. Not that I don't love listening to shows from the trunk but there is a bit of a sigh as to certain mix choices.
That 17000 y/o conch shell is an amazing story. To be able to hear that sound!! The NPR story from yesterday also had a brief sequence from a repro of bird bone flute that was even older - so pretty.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 02/11/2021 - 17:31

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Half-assing it on the E72 sound quality.
But look at who manages the Vault.....
No surprise that they wouldn’t give due respect to an epic tour, but still had no qualms about charging people like they had given due respect.

Of course, don’t forget that the band did a little overdubbing.

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-europe-72-overdubs-guest-pos…

Hey, at least they didn't record over the tapes after they released E72 like they did with the Warfield/Radio City run.

The box was mixed by Norman from the original multi tracks, they used Plagent Processes and Glasser mastered it
I always thought the sound quality was unbelievably good and can't believe how lucky we are that they released it.

Anyway, I have heard the complaints about Keith in the mix before and I think there is actually some text from Norman on this, explaining it.

Anyway, you should check out Norman's explanation of mastering and mixing in the bonus footage from the The Grateful Dead Movie, interesting stuff.

I hope the next box, whatever it is, comes out soon .

Bluecrow, lucky bastard!

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Submitted by bolo24 on Thu, 02/11/2021 - 18:47

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The overwhelming majority of concert attendees for the E72 tour had never seen the Dead in person before.

Can you imagine the looks on their faces after that insane "Caution?"

Minds blown, faces melted.

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Submitted by Jack Baller on Thu, 02/11/2021 - 19:48

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Not to change the subject, but thanks to everyone here for reminding us about the fantastic anniversaries we have this month.

Too much working and lurking, not enough time to chip in. Did Maples Pavilion the other day without prompting, and appreciate the reminder about today.

Forensic Doc, I trust that you are going on sabbatical from your job for the month of April? You will be one even busier man then.

And kudos to LedDed for the post of the year on the other thread. I received #24584/25000, sound quality is brutal.

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Was at the Henry J. Kaiser Auditorium in Oakland for the amazing five night run in February 1986 that included the two nights with the Neville Brothers. The jam session on the night of the 11th with the Nevilles was the most exciting guest jam from the Brent era I had the pleasure to see, and hear and feel. I sing the body electric. Apologies to Walt Whitman.
I’m gonna have to listen to 2/12/86 tonight.
Will have to visit 4/24/72 over the weekend.
Weather forecast for the Southwest, Cold Rain and Snow.

Gotta drive 300 some miles today through it, but boy do we need it. pretty much never say no to moisture out here.

A favorite version is 7/7/78 - my first tape way back when was "by chance" one of the greatest audience recordings I've ever heard. You are THERE(!!) for that first show at Red Rocks - lightning in a bottle. 1st set is my favorite post-hiatus - absolutely smoking. As most here know, Cold Rain starts Set II - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1978/07/07/cold-rain-snow?source=914…

Have a great day everybody. Onward.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 02/12/2021 - 07:49

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Got some.

VGuy: You might want to start with 2/11/89, not knocking 2/12 (there's a Willie & The Hand Jive after all) but 2/11 is smoking!! (or maybe that was me.. na, na.. it's smoking too.)

BlueCrow: 7/7/78 huh? Might have to dust that off after I visit this Janis Joplin set from 2/12/69.
What a night at the Fillmore East 52 years ago.
The 2nd night of the GOGD opening up for Janis and her new band and their NY debut.
Some cool video snippets float around out there from 2/11/69 when 60 minutes came to interview her, wonder if CBS has all the source footage that was shot that night?
Highly unlikely, but I can't help to think about it..

And, wow Steppin' Out sounds dope!
A great compilation and I'm glad I finally gave that a spin.
Melted Brits must've been everywhere.
Nice pick BOLO, did you get to rock the big speakers?

Good times and great oldies.
Happy Friday.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/12/2021 - 09:50

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Like Ostrich racing on landfills. I'm going with April 71 box.... Not the whole month... but Manhattan Center shows... Princeton... etc... Have a good weekend everyone... Don't forget tomorrow has a nice anniversary show with nice "pop" during Dark Star.... Bob t

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Submitted by bolo24 on Fri, 02/12/2021 - 14:45

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Yes, indeed. Cranked up the big system yesterday, garnering a few puzzled looks from folks walking around the hood. They don't know what they're missing!

Downside? I have to replace a couple cracked windows. And the dog has given me the 24 hour stink-eye.

Still worth it.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/12/2021 - 15:56

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Daves 40 will be Gainesfreakinville

no wait...Daves 39 will be Gainesville, and Daves 40 will be something gargantuan from 1968.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/12/2021 - 20:28

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....I hear it's got a raging Doin' That Rag.
Edit to GOGD. I was present at the 2.11.89 Forum show. I said before and I'll say again, that show was the most lit show I attended. I was a psychedelic mess. Cheers. Thank God we booked a room right across the parking lot.
People lit fireworks down the hallways. At least I think they did. Who knows. Our room door was open all morning lol.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 06:34

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VGuy - Oops I got my wires crossed, I had been talking about 2/11/86 with Strider, so when I saw your post, I was thinking / referring to '86 and typed '89. That all being said, now you make me want to check out Feb '89 shows.
Def check out 2/11/86 when you get some free time. Trippy!

Bolo - Nice! And what's a little stink eye from a dog and the neighbors compared to hours of audio bliss?!?!
Dig that compilation and glad you mentioned it, def worth having in the ol collection.

BobT - Where's the clue?

Alright, snowy day in Oregon. Starting off with some Don't Hang Off the Balcony and My Dog Has No Nose, Crazy Fingers > Supplication > High Time, boy oh boy.
I bet you all can guess the show?

And happy Anniversary 2/13/70, 51 years ago the Dead played one of their greatest shows ever!!
I think I'll have to fire up that Dark Star > TIFTOO at the very least.

What else we listening to?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 08:33

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Why are you up so early on a Saturday?
I’m 3 hours ahead of you and you still got up before me.
Well, technically I got up before you, let my dog out to pee, then went back to bed.

I guess you are like a kid on Christmas morning, so excited you can’t sleep, got to get started on a Saturday full of GOGD.

Think I’ll start with your recommendation of 2-13-70.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 08:35

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It insists that a mailbox is a parking meter.
Wouldn’t let me pass the test until I selected the mailbox.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 09:03

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Bolo's/Schroedinger's Clue.

starting the morning with Steppin Out.

Those Feb '89 Forum shows look awfully interesting. All sorts of goodness those nights but I mean a Set II Monkey and the Engineer??!! along with Dire Wolf?!!

Of course 2/13 needs a spin.

Still need to get the ABB Bears Sonic Journals.

A whole lot more cold rain and snow forecast.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 09:13

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Haha...
I'm a morning person in my older age for sure.

It's like Christmas every morning when you're a GD Freak!

Did the Dark Star > TIFTOO > TOYLL out of respect.

It's a trip, made me think of something.

My first GD mentor, who I barely knew, sure did know what he was doing.

I mighta told this story before, but.. fuck it.
My friend Kevin's older brother flipped me my first 3 bootlegs.
We were in high school & he was home from college and having a rager Keg party.
So we were so stoked to be hanging and partying with all these college age guys and gals.
I remember they seemed so grown up.. and Joe (I think that was his name) had racks of tapes.
They were blasting GOGD, it was awesome.

I got to talking to Joe, and told him I'd just started getting into the Dead and was curious about all the tapes.
He asked "What are you into?"
At the time I was super interested in Psychedelics and finding the best music to trip to.
I'd heard about "Space" so I said, you got anything with a lot of Space?
He looked at me curiously...
You want a lot of "Space", huh?

Anyhow, he flipped me the tapes with the caveat "Never sell them, only share".

2/13/70 = Dark Star one side TIFTOO other side 60 minute tape?
4/29/71
2/09/73

Nice picks Joe!
Still 3 of my favorite shows.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 11:16

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5/31/80: well I didn’t peak, so I didn’t realize that the Miller SB version I picked was only second set. So as I was doing some PW etc I started to think “WTF?, did they play the second set first lol, no wonder Proudfoot said not to peak”
So I didn’t hear the first set but did really enjoy that second set. This is the kinda thing I’m looking for here, these off the path chestnuts that might never listen to unless someone you hang with turns you on.
Like those 86 shows too. Though I think I might of had the 11th? If it wasn’t such a hassle I’d drag the tapes out.
Didn’t get to those, but I should. I’ve had this thing with 86? Can’t really describe it but don’t feel drawn? I guess if I could remember the Hampton/Philly run I’d have a better feeling, but unfortunately I don’t remember much. Like of all the blurred and forgotten memories, that spring run is like a black hole...probably too many veggies, but I can’t even remember what it was I dropped? Can’t remember much about tapes from 86 either, which probably means I wasn’t that into them? Probably binged out all that year on 85 tapes, like TOGA! (I hear ya GOGD!)
Remember a little more about the 5 summer 86 shows I saw which were mostly good with Riverbend leaving a smoking crater, but Akron I don’t recall much, except meh, and just sorta getting Altamonte fear vibe from like smoking tires etc on the way in...I think? LOL (actually have listened to all those and non are as bad as I thought)

FED 89: now these I’ve always been meaning to check out as I recall my cousin (might of been at?) said they were good? I’d love to hear more about this run from anyone who was there...though sounds like VGUY was in similar condition as me at those spring 86 shows ; )

2/9/73: ok, did this one yesterday. Never been that blown away by this one, I mean it’s basically a sound test.
I’m sure part of my lack of sparkle is because of the shitty tape I had and the fact that I wasn’t ready for the more jazzy 72-74 stuff. I know what tapes I had from that era back then were never very good so I think that had something to do with a lot of BS first impression/pre-conceived notions I acquired, idiot!
Yeah I lived for like raging late seventies/early eighties then, but I digress.
So as I’d not heard it in a long time figured it was time. Now, it’s a good 73 show, and I can understand how some folks are really into “first version shows” etc, so there’s the historical element,....I guess I’m trying to say that it’s a good show, but I’d wish there was more big 73 type jams, and I can think of a half dozen other 73s just off the top of my pointy little head that I’d rather see get them”treatment”.
But hey, that’s just me...glad I heard though, Eyes definitely interesting!

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 13:24

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2/10 at 12:27....Bolo says I got a dollar and a quarter to kick things off..... Pigpen rap during Princeton Good Lovin from April 71..... I'm reaching but at that time he posted it I thought i solved the mystery of the sphinx...... ha ha Bob t

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 16:48

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Ok, folks, your in for a treat now as Boo is one of my oldest show buddies. We were pretty inseparable for years back in the bad ole daze; band mates, house mates, roadie/tech work together, and all around looking for trouble aka Neil and Jack, or more like the 2 lead characters in the movie the Stoned Age, a must see for anyone growing up in the late seventies/early eighties. Like Dazed and Confused only better!
Yeah, the two of us on here, hee-hee, “look out Cleveland” part of our “act” was me being a dumb ass, and ole Boo letting me know it! LOL Miss ya Buddy! So glad ya made it!
EDIT: oh yeah, and the shroom powder, that was Hershey, remember, I lost my shit in Hershey! Lol.
We’re we together on spring 86? One tour I remember nothing, cept a couple of the breakouts...

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 22:20

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What a gem

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 05:15

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Now you’re talkin!
Happy Valentines Day. I almost wrote Ballantine. Anyone remember olde Ballantine XXX Ale.
2/14/86 GD concert was fun, not near as exciting as 2/11,12/86 nights with the Neville Brothers. But I still had an awesome time. I’d say check it if it moves you.
Four days until the 50th anniversary of 2/18/71. I’m searching those those foggy ruins of time with a searchlight casting for faults in the clouds of delusion.
Read the final writing of Kerouac, “After me the deluge”.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 06:22

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You can't take my mind and leave...

I think it's a good day to listen to the Valentines -
https://archive.org/details/valentines1995-02-14.mtx.miller.117207.flac…

Cream Puff War 1995 smokes

Happy Valentine's Day

BobT - I never would've noticed that as a clue! Was it Bolo?!?!
'71 would make sense as a release after all that was 50 years ago.

OB - Check out 7/6/86 Beginning of Set 2 for some under the radar '86. It smokes!
SBD doesn't circulate, but DL put that portion on Taper's Section and brought it to my attention.
(SBD portion had a lot of drop outs that I messed around with and patched)
It doesn't look like much on paper, but its' real good.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 09:00

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The Viola filler on the RT release is the same Viola that is included in the Origins free download.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 11:58

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We do not know where the rose comes from.
Rose fossils 32,000,000 years old have been found in Colorado and Oregon.
- Annotated Lyrics by David Dodd

And when the day had ended, with rainbow colors blended, their minds remained unbended.
- Jerry Garcia

Jerry's second stab at song writing is pretty damn good if you ask me. But, I liked his first stab too.

1968 at the Carousel must've been a hoot.
Burn down the Fillmore, gas the Avalon.
We respectfully dedicate this set to the memory of Neal Cassady

BTW the Annotated Lyrics by David Dodd is next level GD scholar stuff.
I'm impressed with all these smart Dead Heads < One word or Two?

Good Times.

.....Mrs. Vguy gifted it to me one Christmas past. Read it to her in bed a few times. Gave her AND I a new appreciation of the words.
Grate stuff.
Now. Onto my annual listening of 2.14.68. Cuddling up in a comfortable blanket of some Primal Dead.

thank you for the r3ference to 7 6 86

Very nice. I listened today via archive on phone while refiling and selecting shows.
StoC thru Stella

86 is an oddball year. There are plenty of gems. Since it was only a partial year due to Garcia illness, maybe it gets unfairly shunned.

2 14 86
3 21 86
3 27 86
3 28 86
4 3 86
4 19 86
4 21 86 "stehwehstehwehstehwehstehweh..."
5 3 86
7 7 86 Satisfaction

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 14:02

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Proudfoot - Oh Yeah, You Betcha! (Think Fargo accent)
Glad you checked that out and dug it.
That 7/6 really surprised me, DL put it on the Taper's Section and I was way stoked on it.
There's some stuff in them thar hills, a fun year to mine. There's some fools gold too!!

VGuy - Ahhh, that's awesome.
I really enjoy pulling that book out and exploring it when the thought strikes me.
It's not my type of read it cover to cover style book, but when I do pick it up and go there, I'm always glad I did.
And it's so well done.
Way to go David Dodd, impressive work!

This '68 Carousel is too much!
That Alligator > Caution...
I grew up wondering what show that was from, it sounds like an epic good time.
Nice send off for Cowboy Neal.

GOGD; thanks fir the 7/6/86 reference. I’m not doing Dead today but it’s on my list!
86 needs some intrepid traveling for sure...I know I liked 86 in 86 lol, but through the years it’s fallen through the cracks. Not remembering spring tour doesn’t help. I know I finally gave those shows a superficial listen on a job sight a couple years ago, but I really need to give them a better look. Still haven’t gotten to the Boxilla show either.

2/14/68: RT 2.2, one of my most sought shows I don’t have yet. Waiting for Real Gone to hurry up and redo it. They were moving along pretty well at first, probably 4 a year like Dave’s. Then, a couple years ago, they slowed way down...maybe they had to slow down because rhino thought they were competing with DaPs?
Anyway, been digging the RT 2.4 show from 93 much more then I would have thought. Hopefully sooner than later 2.3, from 74 will be out, since this is another highly anticipated one, hell all of volume 2 is!
So I’ve purposely not listened to 2/14/68 YET, so I’m hopeful they’ll put that out ASAP this year...until then think that ketchup song...”antici-pa-a-tion, is making me wait”

BALLANTINE ALE: ah that brings back some memories...don’t recall my impressions about drinking it, probably cause back then it was most once’s for the dollar..but since my initial reaction is not recoil, perhaps it wasn’t too bad?
But I do fondly recall my pops often giving me 2 dollars to ride my bike down the street to the convenience store so I could get him a sixer of either Gobel or Ballentine, often on sale for 99c a sixer, in the back of the store in a giant pyramid with big sorta starburst price sign, and a pack of smokes (25 or 30c?) which left me a nice little bounty to buy baseball cards etc for the trouble. I’d toss the beer and smokes in my basket and rush home so I could find out if I got anything good! Must of been quite the sight!
Hey it was a much different time and the manager/staff knew me and my pops and stuff like that happened back then.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 15:43

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Killer show.. Garcia's first show back.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 15:49

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....Irvine.
The girls were pretty. That was my first takeaway. I was 16. Sue me.
Didn't revisit the Dead until July '87. Was still in heavy metal mode then. Not an excuse. Just facts.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 18:29

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2/14/68, truly a relic of the psychedelic. Have not listened in three years as I did for its 50th anniversary .
But right now I’m traveling back 35 years ago to 2/14/86. Earlier today I glanced at my bulletin board and there was my ticket from that night! Took that as a sign I better relisten and report back.
As I had been given a backstage pass from Brian Williams who was an assistant to John Cutler I brought an old Japanese poet friend Nanao Sakaki (January 1, 1923 - December 22, 2008) who had been visiting up at Kiskadee outside of Nevada City. I got in early and got a couple seats on the left side close to the stage , of course being the Kaiser, just off the main floor. Right now I’m finishing out the first set. As it had been raining cats and dogs and mountain lions and coyotes the Dead played several songs referencing those elements . What strikes me about this run of Dead shows is how tight they were. Let it Grow was so tight, or like the Sun Ra album title it was “bad and beautiful “. I did go back stage at the end of the first set to grab Bobby Petersen to step out front so he could meet Nanao . I believe I had a signed copy of Nanao’s book Real Play that we gave to Bobby. That was the last time I saw Bobby Petersen who died the following January 1987.
So second set they opened with Keep on Growin the Derek and the Dominos song. Last time played. Listening to it now it sounds alright and better. I remember Nanao commenting on the Kaiser Auditorium being like a giant space ship. Boy howdy. Nanao was a true free spirit who loved spirits and smoking ganga. Now listening to Lost Sailor. I don’t believe I’ve listened to this concert in over 30 years. Oh yeah I recorded every night of this run with my Sony D-5 by patching in with other tapers. I’ve got those tapes still. Some on metal tape and others Maxell 2S. I have no idea how they may sound now. Decomposing further I reckon . Was going to pass on listening to this show but then finding the old ticket changed my mind. Sure don’t know what I’m going for but I’m gonna go for it for sure. Drums and space really impressed Nanao who many times was the life of the party at drum jams in Taos County in the 80s. Of course Bobby Petersen and Laird Grant lived in the Taos area off and on in the 60s and 70s. Laird at New Buffalo and Morning Star and Bobby up on Lama Mountain. I didn’t move to New Mexico until 1982 so was a late comer. You could say early 80s was the tail end of the old hippie days. Depends on who you talk to I suppose. I met Nanao in Zuni December 7th 1980. I had traveled there with a WW2 Navajo veteran (communications Sargent) but I digress.
Terrapin sounds awesome at this time. Calling on the elements. Keeping it real. I get goosebumps hearing this show. My God time flies. Anyone who had the opportunity to see the Grateful Dead live even once (and got it) was quite fortunate. I think about the youngest Deadheads (10-11-12?) at some Dead shows in 95 who really became intrigued who may live to 95-101? What 2080? 2085? Who will be the last living Deadhead who actually saw the real Grateful Dead (1995 cutoff thank you) It will perhaps be something like the last Civil War veteran alive or the last WW 1 veteran alive.
Back to 2/14/86, space sounding expansive. Echos from the stars. ( today from Mars?) Left a smoking crater like my mind was blown away. So here it is Valentines Day 2021. My mind is blown. But I will reiterate from another time, to keep your memory sharp, try not to smoke too much herb and drink too much. Exercise, clean diet ( freedom of choice ) good water. Good friends, love of family, lust for life , rise before dawn, greet the sun, give thanks for another day.
Ah yes , Wharf Rat, old man down by the docks of the city. I got no dime but I got some time to hear his story.
So go out and do some good dear readers. Glad I could share this story.
“I’ll get up and fly away, fly away!”
“The compass always points to Terrapin”

Yuck, yuck, get it...? ; )
Strider, sweet post, nice vibe, nice memories, I’m going to have to look at that run. I feel like a had a couple sets from that run, but who knows...tight ya say? That’s interesting cause though I recall liking most/all the shows from that year my recollection is they could be intense, fiery, weird, but occasionally sloppy. But I’m learning that many of my memories are no longer relative lol.
So I think I need to go there...buy the ticket...

VGUY: girls, girls, girls!
Wow interesting set...I was @ those Spectrum shows, and I remember Hand jive sorta but that’s about it for that one....dooooaaahhh, stupid memory! Kinda bums me out I don’t recall such a fun set, or maybe I’m just fortunate I’ve seen so much over the years that it all rolls into one....am I the Victim or the crime?

EDIT: trying to remember now what year/show (86/87?) we saw at the Rectum where they had double booked the venue; WW wrestling followed by the GD....surreal as the meat heads, actually, I remember lots of children with nervous looking Dads LOL, but they had to make their way out through a large, anxious , aaa, “primed” crowd of Dead Heads! Actually very smooth but definitely interesting! Can’t remember what time the band started, but I know we were there well after midnight...Road crew must of loved that shit!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 02/15/2021 - 07:04

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Yes, I am going to put this one on today, thanks for the pick Bob t.

We need a box announcement soon. It has been 12 months since the last one and I am freezing my ass off up here.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 02/15/2021 - 08:01

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Strider - thanks for sharing that story. Just pulled some of Nanao's poetry off the shelf. Traveling with me this week.

2-15-73 this evening hopefully. A fairly early and much loved tape.

Memories of my parents watching Jackie Gleason on a little black and white TV.

And still more Cold Rain and Snow - long day ahead. Be safe everybody.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 02/15/2021 - 08:30

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