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    Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

    The town crier's addendum:

    Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Thin
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    thx JimInMD

    Jim - thx for your empathy. I'm sure there's a logical explanation, but we've ALL been hearing about the cluster bomb that is customer service at Dead.net and they just don't seem to care enough to fix it.

    As for your comment "when your CD was returned it probably went back out to someone else that had their order completely flubbed up" - I agree that's a likely scenario, but that means they fixed one situation by screwing up someone else's order - mine. Then ignored my repeated requests to fix it for 3 months.

    Not worth all the aggravation. If you're taking my money but then make me fight tooth-and-nail to get the product, then you're not getting my money anymore.

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    I'm sort of in the same boat, thin. I'm not defending them and have about the same information as you (a black hole) but I get the feeling there are significant warehouse issues behind much of this. It's likely the right hand did not know what the left hand was doing and this Dave's Picks had something significant happen (thinking damage, theft or the like) so when your CD was returned it probably went back out to someone else that had their order completely flubbed up.

    Again not an excuse you are right to be frustrated and it's fine to voice that frustration here and let off some steam. You have my sympathy. They do read these threads, hopefully things will get better.

    I suspect there are more out there like Mike that are scratching their heads and pondering go forward options.

    Wishing everyone a good week.. the days are beginning to get longer and as much as I am enjoying a good winter here in the Mid Atlantic, I can begin to see and smell spring right around the corner. Hoping to get my #37 perhaps as soon as today.

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    Sun Ra Arkestra...

    ...have had some lineup changes in their long and storied career. They were still going up to 2020, after their inception round about 1956. Now under the direction of Marshall Allen, a joyfully anarchic sax player over 90 years old.

    I came across them by accident supporting the MC5 about 20 years ago. After the 5's set, the Arkestra returned to the stage and both bands made merry hell together. If the damned were screaming, it was impossible to hear them.

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    I wonder if Dave L. realizes that people are considering not subscribing again because the customer service is so poor?

  • Thin
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    "That Mike" - thx

    Thanks - I hear ya. I have SO much - like, everything. I certainly have enough where I can listen to tons of shows without being redundant. I've always re-upped my subs and gotten the boxes as a reflex/inertia, but I really don't NEED any more after this year's subscription expires. Lord knows I have enough to listen to, and have plenty of other hobbies to spend the money on. CDs are a fading format anyway.

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    An interesting entry. I’m thinking Miles Davis went through a lot of band members, too, many still producing great stuff.

    Thin - sorry about the cluster bomb at getting you your righteous numbered copy of DaP 36. I decided that after this year, I’ll likely not subscribe any more, way too many hassles at even getting a response. We’ve all dealt with a great many other retailers, and when something goes awry, they are great at taking responsibility and making it right. Besides, I love the Dead, but I have enough to last until I’m Dead, and there is a ton of other music out there. Good luck, I hope it comes soon.

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    Update on delinquent DaP36

    So after throwing my toys on this board (re: 3 months of non-responsive customer service), I received a few nice comments/advice (and other constructive thoughts) from y'all, and I sent an email to Dr. Rhino/customer service (in addition to my 3 previous mssgs to dead.net). Dr. Rhino responded "Unfortunately, our warehouse has run out of numbered replacement stock. We will now produce a small/limited-edition run of separately numbered replacement copies of Dave’s Picks Volume 36. We will email you with an update as soon as we have an estimate as to when your replacement shipment will go out."

    I appreciate that they are creating an un-numbered mini-run of these shows for people who didn't get 'em. But I find it insulting that 1) my returned disc "disappeared" - my name was on the package! You wouldn't NEED a 2nd run if you hadn't unwrapped my labeled package and given it to someone else! and 2) they seemed fine with me just not getting it until I made a public nuisance of myself! Alarming that an organization whose business acumen is the subject of college curricula reveal themselves to be so dismissive of their customers/fans who are bankrolling them. Though I am appreciative that they are finally addressing my situation.

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    Dave's drinking glass....

    .....mine has said label being created for 4 days now. It will probably show up tomorrow lol.

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    Ive got 50 of the big boxes, all cd, and most of the 3cd releases.
    Favourites change all the time, but Andrew Hill, Sam Rivers and Larry Young get the most plays...
    Didnt subscribe to Daves this year, didnt even buy a la carte, Im done with ordering direct from Rhino, only got 2 out of 4 of my sub last year, so if I buy, it will be on the secondary market, but its interesting to read the comments, might help me make up my mind to buy or not to buy....
    But does this release add anything to the stature of the Dead? Or does it just lengthen their tail?

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    Yet another dedhed and the shipping blues

    No glass here yet, but I too got the bullshit letter saying it's ready (to be put in any envelope, eventually put on a truck and shipped around the world before it get here)

    Still waiting for my 45,,,, the last one, not the one coming out at end of month.

    Also still no word on download link for AB-AS!!!!

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Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

The town crier's addendum:

Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Spammer message below has been deleted--my Pink City post no longer makes sense.

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Seriously - you didn’t think this was a joke, did you!? Where else would an escort walk into!?

Hey, first listen of DaP 37 is two thumbs up! The job that Jeffrey Norman and team does mixing and mastering these releases is first rate.

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Only time I was ever a target for pick-pockets. Out of my front pocket! They got my wallet with a few pesos, driver’s license. But failed to get my passport, visa and travelers checks further down in the same pocket. That was back in the first half of the 90s. Back when I had more sense, back before I got any credit cards.
Mexico City is still my favorite city after San Francisco. Read Jack Kerouac, “Mexico City Blues” and “Tristessa”.

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Hey how about shipping my Dave’s picks? I live 30 minutes drive from Carlsbad, and people in England have theirs and I don’t. The shipping method is stupid a d ridiculous. This happens EVERY DAMN TIME.

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Do not stop on tracks. 2/4/68 San Miguel de Allende

So I wake up today (always a good start) and in my normal Sunday morning routine after the coffee is brewed I check my normal music BT sites and there are three new Charlie Miller offerings of a three day Winterland run from Feb 22, 23 & 24, 1974...jumped on those puppies, dropped them into my Hi Res player and am preparing for a listen on my headphones...But first I will serve my Honey her Valentine's Day lunch request...yesterday I slow stewed a brisket in garlic, onions, oregano, beef base & cumin in my enameled cast iron pot for about four hours...I take the meat out and set aside...I then run the broth through my blender adding red chile powder...I put the broth back in the pot and bring to a simer to let the powdered chile cook in it...i shred the brisket and add back to the simmering stock for about another 30 minutes...Voila, you have killer Chile Colorado to do with as you please...will serve it for lunch with a side of thin sliced fried potatoes, pico de gallo that i made and some tortillas that unfortunately I did not make...and then Winterland '74!!! PS I know DP 13 is 2-24 but does anyone know if the other two dates were officially released?

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....always a good start." - nappyrags.
Indeed.
It may have taken awhile, but I'm finally dipping my toes into the expansive catalog that is Frank Zappa. Started with Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar and expanding out from there in either direction. Where has this been all my life! (right in front of you vguy. You just never paid attention).

Shut Up And Play Your Guitar is very good. Some people forget that Zappa did not just do that naughty and lyrically funny stuff but also played fantastic instrumentals with improvisation. Rat Tomago is a great one from Sheik Yerbouti. It is worth a listen.
I am a fan of Dweezil's Zappa Plays Zappa and if we are ever allowed to go to a concert again they are worth the price of admission.

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I've been watching Roy Buchanan videos on YouTube. Jerry was quite an RB fan. There are some good RB technique tutorials on YT too.

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Freakout!
Absolutely Free
We're only in it for the money
Uncle Meat
Hot Rats
Burnt weeny sandwich
Weasels ripped my flesh

Listen to these IN ORDER.

After that, explore.

Oh. One more...
You cant do that onstage anymore vol 2 disc one.

One of the greatest discs EVER. by anyone not GD, that is

....that record blew my mind deadegad. My eyebrows were all over the place.
I started with that record. Did I fuck up?
I did listen to Hot Rats years ago. Didn't get it. Guess it wasn't my time yet...
Playing ketchup now.
I will follow Proudfoots Playlist. I have faith.

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Live at Town Hall 1974 and American Axe 1974, two great CD releases of recent years.

They'll blow your sox off.......

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. No disc, no email confirming it's been sent, no nothing. I dropped customer service a line here, but based on the comments others have made I won't be holding my breath waiting for a response.

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Order is there. The location of my copy of 37 remains an utter mystery. Emailed customer service. Can't wait for the form letter response.

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Been listening to Perlita Leon and her sister Angelita from Ayacucho, Peru.
So a couple hours ago I glanced at my bulletin board and noticed my ticket from Grateful Dead 35 years ago today. So looks like its a sign I better download it from relisten and check in with 2/14/86.

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Oliver twist is right. I happen to be reading it and remember when I first read the story in high school and always had that saying in my head for years. It's funny how you remember stupid things from a long time ago.

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My glass arrived at my alternate address and will pick it up tomorrow. So they will be arriving soon for you. I hope.

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Carlo13 - just what I was thinking. I haven't seen "Oliver" since I saw it with my parents when it came out - about 1968 - yet I remembered where that line came from when you asked.

Something of a lost art, pick pocketting. That's one of the problems with the internet - its taken the personal touch out of petty crime.

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Caution indeed. None of us in this crazy bunch would be exactly who we are today without good 'ole Cowboy Neal at the wheel.
Thanks for stopping to pick me up Neal.
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Thanks for the info...BTW these shows sound great

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Glad to see you're back to the red dice on green felt. You had that for so long it was like an extension of your name.

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Great show would have liked to be there, nice lush, analog sound (at least so when playing back HDCD). Mickey and Bill on fire! Love the syncopated shuffle opening and during Brown-Eyed Women, the way they drive Jerry rhythmically during his solo, and then bring the whole thing together (rhythmically again) at the lyric Tumble down shack in Bigfoot county etc. This goes on throughout as I am listening for the second time. The percussionists are driving the music.

Also, of Mickey/Billy note, the drums section I thought was exceptional.

Speaking of rhythm devils, maybe someone with more detailed knowledge than I can give me a reference. I went to a couple of shows sometime in 1978 or 1979 where an Egyptian percussionist jammed with Mickey/Billy for the Rhythm Devils. Anyone know, were any of those concerts released officially? Thanks!

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I think it was more the people who wrote about, and mythologised Neal Cassady that had the most influence. More in fact, than did the man himself. Nobody would have known who he was without Jack Kerouac and Tom Wolfe. And as a possible point of entry...The Dead.

I like that quote from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" - "When legend becomes fact, print the legend."

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I met a Mexicana in the plaza of Real Catorce in the state of San Luis Potosí in November of 1993. She taught English in Monterey (Mexico) . Her insight on the Mexican Revolution was telling. And I paraphrase; “The mythology surrounding the history of the revolution may be greater than the actual event. “ And I do not wish to diminish the amazing history of Mexico. Emiliano Zapata was a man of great conviction. Read “Zapata and the Mexican Revolution” by John Womack Jr.
Pancho Villa?, read “Insurgent Mexico” by John Reed.

The mythology surrounding the old Haight Ashbury may very well far overshadow the actual short lived fluorescence of the time. But I do believe it was a cultural revolution in its own write. And connected to other paradigm shifts that started in the 50s.
Read Dennis McNally “On Highway 61”.

So many books, not enough time. The same can be said of recordings of the Grateful Dead. But I’m gratified there is so much knowledge, literature, art and music at our fingertips. “As well to count the angel’s dancing on a pin.”

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Thanks for the suggestions. I look forward to hearing them.

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Strider - I have to say that American books and music of the 1950s and 60s were enormously inspiring to me. I read a Kerouac biography before I read any by the actual author-it was written by Ann Charters, and I found it in a second hand book shop, about 1982. I was completely taken over by what I had read, and went out of my way to read as many books by Kerouac that I could find. It was a very positive influence in that it led me to look into things that he wrote about-from Buddhism to Charlie Parker. One of the books I was most pleased to get was this one I have here " As Ever - The Collected Correspondence of Allen Ginsberg and Neal Cassady". Treasured particularly because this copy is signed by Carolyn Cassady. Amazing to think that she once enjoyed the same physical space in relation to this book that I myself am lucky enough to enjoy now, this minute.

Interesting also that the writing about a historical event changes the way that event is perceived. In some way, it re-creates it.

Billy - great minds - I was only listening to Little Walter this morning. An old double album called "Chess Masters" that has no information about who is playing on it. But it sounds like Muddy Waters and his band, and includes Juke. Another great instrumental is one called "Rollercoaster".

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Not sure who mentioned the FM box set with remastered music from the early days of the Mac, but thanks for the tip! I already have most of those cds, but couldn't resist remastered versions of these Mac classics, all the bonus material, and the added cd of a live show right before Bob Welch left the band. I was listening to Future Games yesterday, and I must say, that is nearly a perfect album, every song is top notch.

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Thanks for the Europe tips, keithfan. I am also making my way through the luggage box for the third time. Just listened to the Beat Club Truckin' >Drums>TOO. Pretty funny how they screwed up the beginning and started over again. The very end of TOO is very spacey and psychedelic.

I hear it was hot that weekend...

GD sets that day
Ramble
Minglewood
Roses
Baby Blue with Dylan
Desolation Row with Dylan

That's set one
5 songs

Set two Garcia feeling a little....off
but enough sparkles through
He leaves the stage at least once I think

Satisfaction is awesome

The highlight of the show is the encore
That happens sometimes with the GD (7 13 84)

the Deadbase reviewer calls it "a night to cherish"

It came close to being THE Last One

Luckily it wasn't

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Upon further review, I stand by my earlier opinions. This is a super fine show, and I was quite pleased(and a little surprised) at just how fine it is. I would make comments on certain tracks, but I love ‘em all. Bonus disc is just a little less tasty, but grateful to have ‘em.

DAVEROCK-I got my Chocolate Watchband cd, and it is fantastic. Have been through this one twice also. The liner notes are copious and fascinating. I had no real knowledge at all about this band, but it was great to read about them during the first listen, and then to just concentrate and LISTEN the second run through. Thanks for a great suggestion, I owe you one(or 2, Mighty Baby also).

Stay well all, it’s just a shout away.

Mr Ones - great - having recommended it, I am glad you like it! Unbelievably they actually played a gig in London about 2005, supported by The Fuzztones. It was part of an indoor festival in London, held every Easter called "Le Beat Bespoke ", which featured psychedelic bands old and new. I also saw Arthur Lee and Johnny Echols front Love there, as well lost legends The Misunderstood, July, The Pretty Things and Arthur Brown-who is still going strong.

It was a pretty good festival, actually. A bit kitsch, maybe...people used to dress up in 60s gear, like Syd Barret or Julie Christie might have done in 1967. They had great lightshows and had Go Go dancers performing on raised podiums while the bands played. Fantastic records were played between sets, too, and there were indoor markets selling vintage records and clothing. Heck....I wish I was going there tonight!!

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....My boss said to me, “You’re the worst train driver ever. How many have you derailed this year?”
I said, “I’m not sure; it’s hard to keep track.”
My feeble attempt at a Casey jones dad joke.

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Greetings all! Dipping into ‘86. Forgive me if I’m a little late to the party. 12-15-86 is a historic show. Jerry’s first show back after being in a coma for months. The audience recording on the archive is the one to queue up. The heads are juiced right out of the gate as they start with Touch of Grey. When the chorus comes around and Jerry belts out the line: “I will get by, I will survive” all you can hear is this thunderous roar erupt from the crowd. It nearly drowns out the audio. Heavy shit; goosebumps. There’s another moment equally as heavy during Candyman. Absolutely sublime version. The part when Jerry gets down to “....pass me my old guitar, pass the whiskey round,...” it is now difficult to hear Jerry screaming the lyrics over the raucous roaring ovation. Moves me to tears everytime. Even just thinking of it.

Cheers rockers!

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A couple years ago I re-read a lot of the Beat books for the first time in 20 years. They made a much bigger impression on me in my 20's, but they do stand the test of time and remain excellent. I'm getting ready to re-read Junky by Burroughs this week. If you're looking for more about Neal, he has an auto-biography named The First Third, which is surprisingly good. My wife's favorite is Off the Road by Carolyn and is well worth your time. Happy reading and listening.

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"William Burroughs-A Life" by Barry Miles is worth reading if you have read any of his novels. Or if you haven't, come to that.

It also works very well listening to him read his work. I used to have a few cassettes of him reading "Junky". I was less keen on tapes I had of him reading over a musical background-there are a few of him backed by 1990s style electronic music, which detracted from his delivery a bit. But he had a great voice.

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So since Dead.net/Rhino still hasn't hooked me up with DaP36 I took the liberty of "getting" my hands on digital copy until mine arrives (so shoot me - woulda been nice if Rhino offered that, given the shjt$how in DaP36 fulfillment, and that I prob won't get my copy for a long time still, but they didn't).

Anyway, the China> Rider is crazy good, partially due to the smile-inducing crowd reaction throughout the song. The band blows the roof off the place moment after glorious moment, and the crowd goes apeshit. Also possibly the best "Esau" that's been released. Can't recall if those observations were similar to everyone else's, given this came out three months ago and I can't recall what everyone else said (awkward). But that's what stood out to me. Great release overall, though I'm not asking for more '87... For some reason the year just doesn't thrill me overall.

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